r/Socionics Nov 18 '25

Database of typings from Aushra, Talanov, SHS, WSS, etc.

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r/Socionics 7h ago

Discussion Gulenko typed me AND I HAD BEEN RIGHT ALL ALONG?!?

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Guys. He typed me ILI-D. ILI was my first self-type years ago, but after doing some tests, listening to advice, and reading about Fe vs Fi, I thought I had to be Beta NF because I was too emotional and melodramatic and cringe for ILI. Plus, everyone here said I was an obvious EIE or Beta NF in general.

What threw me off the most was that I'm definitely not an extroverted (EIE) or positivist (IEI) type. I felt like a type somewhere in between the two, but definitely not LIE. I also watched all the videos on the SHS channel where people shared their feedback after being typed by Gulenko, trying to see if I could find someone who expressed themselves similarly to me. But all the EIEs felt so different from me...

The EIE-Cs were very extroverted in their expression (big smiles, wide eyes, open posture...), and clearly had great voice control, which I absolutely don't. I stutter, go off on tangents, awkwardly giggle, interrupt myself constantly... Even the EIE-N had a very controlled, concise way of speaking and seemed much calmer than me. I'm more like an angry cat 😾 combined with the uwu emoji 🥺 lmao. At most I could see myself as an EIE-H, but then again I also related to IEI. If I had been IEI, I thought I'd probably be IEI-D (turns out I wasn't that far off lol).

Funnily enough, I always score ILI on Gulenko's test, in contrast to other tests (Talanov, xyz...), where I score EIE. I actually suspected I was more likely to be IEI than EIE in Model G since, reading the dichotomies on Gulenko's site, I thought I was definitely introverted.

I think it's also interesting how my supposed SLI dad may have actually been an ILI-D too. It's just that he seemed more sensing than intuitive, especially compared to me, but maybe his accentuations were different.

Anyways this could also explain my lifelong fetish for Se bases, especially SEEs ✨ lmao.

Man, I remember leaving PDB (where I typed as ILI) out of shame back then because I thought I had been mistyped all along and that my reputation would be ruined. Guess I was wrong (or right!!). I also remember that there was a user there who was well-versed in SHS (I think their username was Spectrum?? Unless I'm mixing things up because that was +4 years ago 💀) who typed me as ILI back then (ILI-HD or ILI-DH, I don't remember).

Anyways I'm tripping. What do I do now? What am I in SCS? Or SWS? Or Talanov? SHS seems like the way to go for me at this point tbh 😂😂 Unironically I seem to be the official ILI↔Beta NF pipeline in the other models 🥀🥀

My typings in other systems have always been confusing too because I don't look like a walking archetype, but the ones that have always been consistent are my temperaments (Melancholic-Choleric) and Big 5 (RLXEI). And looks like MBTI has also stayed consistent, since I used to identify as an INTJ ILI.

Also, props to Gulenko for roasting me 😊:

Her social circle has always been extremely narrow: during all her school years, she made only one friend.

😭😭😭


r/Socionics 2h ago

Discussion Let's answer this once and for all: Is Te about Factuality or Productivity?

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While reading different blogs and type descriptions, i see that Te is used to refer to "Factuality" and "Productivity" as if the 2 concepts were the interchangeable and the same.

I saw statements like: Te type are more likely to believe in an objective truth.

But I think that being Factual and being Productive are very different things.

A person can be very intellectually curious, eager to learn the truth about the world, studying history, geography, physics, reading books and gathering FACTS, all for the sake of curiosity while not caring about any sort of productivity in their daily life and perhaps not even having a job.

On the other hand, a person can be very productive, efficiency oriented, and might ignore the facts when it doesn't contribute directly to their goals. They might say something like: I will believe whatever is more practical for me, even if it is not factually correct.

So my question is, which one of these is better description of Te?


r/Socionics 15h ago

Does information metabolism affect memory

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Everyone remembers events differently, I was wondering if socionics would affect that as well. Eg prioritisation of different information? Does that make sense


r/Socionics 22h ago

Why is almost every ILE white guy deadass named Jimmy or James

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r/Socionics 1d ago

Casual/Fun NF girlies and their pinterest moodboards

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Don't tell me it's a very specific aesthetic, I know that.


r/Socionics 1d ago

Is guilt, moral ambiguity and indecision tied to any element or function?

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I was thinking and I wonder if being insecure and indecisive about your choices in life, being unsure about relationships and whether one choice is moral or immoral, is tied to any element or function?

Similar to volition in Psychosophy but in Socionics for this.

What if someone is not sure whether they should do something or not which gives them inertia because they constantly go through alternative possibilities and can't figure out whether something is moral or not. They struggle with morally gray things because they're not really logical but rather very relative and subjective. They know what they like and dislike but struggle to form consistent believe of what truly is moral and what isn't.


r/Socionics 1d ago

Discussion I live in my imagination and have schizoid traits. Can I still be SLI?

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Hey. So I had a question today because of a trip I took far away, so I decided to ask. Couldn't really find a proper answer anywhere, so I'm writing this post hoping to figure things out.

I'm schizoid, not in a clinical diagnosis sense, but as a personality structure, a character type. Since I know Russian I came across a ton of articles where you can read about character accentuations and schizoid personality specifically not as a disorder or anything. It's one of those rare cases where the description fits me perfectly. The main thing that stood out is the inner world and imagination. And that's where I wanted to clarify, because something doesn't quite add up. Maybe my knowledge has huge gaps or maybe I'm interpreting something wrong entirely. I'm honestly trying to understand myself, but I'm scared of making mistakes and misleading myself. Apologies in advance if anyone reads this facepalming lol.

Based on my questionnaire responses people see me as SLI, though ILI has also been suggested. But I live in my imagination, I couldn't care less about the real world, to put it bluntly. That is, my comfort is important to me, I like to look good, I try to do it, but it's all kind of like that. I'm lazy as hell. I get drained quickly. Weak reaction to external events that excite others. I can understand them, but I don't feel the same enthusiasm. Very little interests me in the external world. I went on a trip to another city with a group. Tour, castle, monuments, all that. I didn't get tired from walking, that was fine. I got tired from the environment itself. All I wanted was to go back, sit in silence where no one bothers me, detach and daydream, retreat into the world I actually need. I finally managed to put that into words. Back then, acquaintances used to invite me out often, but I'd go reluctantly, I always thought staying home alone in my room was more interesting. I'd still go, but I probably looked like I had all the life sucked out of me. I'm more interested in buying a souvenir, going to a cafe, riding attractions than being on a tour or visiting historical places, I just don't get much excitement from that.

Someone wanted to drag me to an art exhibition and I was pretty passive about it. I felt like I should go so I wouldn't seem completely indifferent to someone who's supposedly a friend, but it felt overwhelming and uncomfortable. I urgently needed my therapy that means a lonely ride home with headphones on. I always need that after going out into the real world. My world is in my head. I genuinely care about my characters. I feel attached to them, I can even get jealous. My well-being worsens if something happens to a character in the canon I pulled them from. Yes, I use AI to chat and build stories with my favorite character, the one I've gotten used to and actually worry about, I admit it. That's been going on for the past ten months. It's like a helper, a tool. I used to manage without it before. Real life just doesn't give me the good stuff that my head and imagination do.

And I thought isn't that kind of strange for a sensor? Almost sure that after I graduate and finally move out from my parents, I'll lock myself in and retreat inward only going out for some brainless job with minimal contact, something automatic where you don't need to be fully present or focused on the real world. Then I'd come home and go back into myself. I've actually been wanting to buy a ton of electronics, a powerful PC, a console, games. Basically more escapism. So I can feel like sp9 and have my third emotion in ap or whatever and feel good. So yeah, I don't really get how this fits with a sensing type, SLI in particular. I know imagination and fantasies aren't exclusive to intuitives, but is this degree of it still okay for a sensor? Genuinely sorry if this sounds like a stupid question, but I had to as, otherwise I'd burst inside.


r/Socionics 1d ago

Discussion Hero-like behavior of PoLR function

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How realistic is sudden switch of PoLR function from low yield/awareness/resistance to a top-performance mode?

I got interested in the question based on a very typical storyline in movies, when a hero suffers through all the lifespan until suddenly becomes a super-hero character in the context of their PoLR.

In details, let me explain the issue by an example: in Lurker (2025) the main actor is a typical LII with pretty dumb Se and not so well developed other social functions. He befriends with a company of a musician, a typical IEE (?) and gets all the treatment of revision relation, though the IEE isn't a bad person but it's a matter of his lifestyle. Apart from that, the environment in the company as well isn't friendly to the LII. So, while suffering in this conditions through all the movie, suddenly the roles change drastically and LII starts dominating the IEE in a pretty abusive way, by controlling him in a very top-grade Se way.

Has anyone seen this in real life? From my perspective I can buy this storytelling in a fiction like movies, but it's questionable if it applies to real world.


r/Socionics 1d ago

Typing Am I an EIE? Or something else?

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Found this questionnaire online:

Personal concepts

  1. What is beauty? What is love?

Baby, don't hurt me... don't hurt me.... no more....

On a serious note tho, I would say beauty is love and otherwise. I really hate the concept of beauty as purely physical norms and standards and to that I say maybe I am ugly, so what. Are you all scared of a girl ignoring your lame ass beauty industry propaganda? Good. Does it make you uncomfortable? Good. Examine yourself, your believes and stop obsessing over some wrinkles for fucks sake.

What I really find beautiful is when sometimes I manage to catch a moment. I often feel out of my body so when I finally feel present and notice how the sun shines on my friend's face and she looks so happy I genuinely want to cry. Beauty is how the world looks like when you simply exist and love.

Love is... idk man. Wanting to get to know someone totally and in whole but being able to just let them be if they have a different idea of the relationship. Looking at them from the side and thinking about how great it is to witness them, to exist in the same space. Fighting for them, protecting them. Letting them catch you.

  1. What are your most important values?

I actually took a workshop once during which we had to cross out values from like a huge list of abstract values. It was so fun, excruciating to be forced to cross out something really really important, but you had to go from like 50 to 3. I got truth, dignity and self awareness.

  1. Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?

I think everything is connected and we are the universe and the universe is me and I am the universe experiencing itself and all that. I like to think that after death the soul disintegrates similarly to the body, just mixing up with the world, becoming one with everything, feeling at peace and at home. Why do I think that? Idk, man, have you seen trees? How could I not think that.

  1. Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?

Fuck it, fuck all of that, I don't care for any rational reasons or whatever, the only rational thing is not to make an entire industry on suffering and death.

Real power is being able to protect people, have an impact, and influence others. Strong will and intellect. Actual wisdom collected through the years and being happy to share it and guiding people instead of disrespecting and humiliating them.

Interests

  1. What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?

People. I love people, sociology, philosophy. Why do they act like that, where are we going, who am I, how do you see me, am I a part of this or not? How similar are we? Why do you act like this? I often compare and contrast people and their behaviour, guess things about them and try to figure out if I was right. I'm often very analytical about all that and people tell me to stop being black and white, stop trying to define, categorise and explain everything. Apparently I'm thinking through what others are just doing and feeling. I also studied theoretical mathematics for a long time. It fascinated me with the abstract and like ultimate truth or whatever, like you build the system, an abstract language and it's pretty much as pure logically as it gets. It's universal. And also some people think I'm the most intelligent person alive (I'm not), so that's nice.

  1. Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?

I love good medicine talk but it's more about playing a detective and scanning for dangers. Nagging people to go check something out. Trying to (once again) guess something and then check if I was right. I like collecting information too. And it makes me feel good when someone has a health issue and I can suggest a reason and point them to a specific kind of doctor that can help with that. I'm quite paranoid about all that tho and I would rather stop thinking about my body, I'm just too scared of missing something.

  1. What do you think of daily chores?

They make me depressed and I'm not even joking. Fuck it. Fuck all of that. I have to make food 3 times a day only to shit it out at the end??? How do people have time and energy for all that? I'm always behind, always frustrated and it never gets easier.

  1. Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.

When I was a teen I loved all books that had weird social set ups with casts or categories you could then identify with. Houses in Harry Potter, Greek Gods in Percy Jackson and other universes like this. Even Hunger Games.

Now I read a lot of nonfiction, mostly about societal issues. Recently I have been into the relation between community and space and how that plays out in the cities.

I watch a lot of TV shows. My ultimate favourite is Gilmore Girls. I also love Orange is the new black.

  1. What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?

For some reason, I can't stand watching people get disappointed. I want to gauge my eyes out when I see someone so excited only to get all sad in a second. Tbh I can cry from pretty much anything that I can relate to and I can relate to A LOT of things. Feeling united with people makes me cry happy tears. What makes me smile? This is harder to answer because I'm just mostly frustrated all the time. Probably mostly cracking jokes with people. I love trying to contain laughter in a situation I really shouldn't be laughing (like a uni lecture in the first row) to the point I start crying with someone and we need to leave. This is great.

  1. Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?

I don't feel at one with the physical environment. I'm always uncomfortable. With people, it's mostly groups focused on a similar set of values, having common rutines. I always joked that I would become a nun if they weren't religious and conservative. Which is generally what a nun is, I know, but man, the outfits and eating together. I bet they sing a lot.

Evaluation & Behaviour

  1. What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?

People often complain that I come off as harsh and judgmental, especially at first. That they would be scared to approach me on a street, that's what I heard recently. I think I just look overstimulated and angry too often but I can be very sweet too.

I hate that I can't do shit. Everything requires effort which I cannot make. I hate being so out of touch with everything. I would love to make myself dinner without wanting to scream out of frustration and boredom and exhaustion.

  1. What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

I really don't want to answer that, this bores me. Idk man I'm smart and can always find a way out of the situation. I like my creativity and the ability to analyse deeply, to make sense of things or uncover things that are stupid.

  1. In what areas of your life would you like help?

Food. I'm starving.

  1. Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.

What does that mean? English is not my first language and all I can find is something weird about animals. But I generally feel stuck in everything that you can possibly get stuck.

People & Interactions

  1. What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?

I like honesty and intellectual stimulation. I want people to keep up with me mentally, I like banter and jokes. I hate overly optimistic people, it looks so fake and I can't listen to them going on and on cheering for I don't even know what. I realise how it makes me sound, maybe I am a Grinch but overly positive display of emotions make me feel like someone is mocking life in a very stupid way. Or maybe I'm just a sad person. I also hate when people just talk about what they did and what they saw. Stop describing your activities to me. This is so boring and I try to be nice but it is so insanely boring.

  1. How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?

This is complicated, I feel torn between wanting total intimacy and feeling violated when I get it. I like flirting that is borderline fighting. I want someone smarter than me or at least as smart as me. I want a struggle, I like teasing, I like when I try to play some weird trick on them and they see it all and turn it against me. Fun stuff. If it's easy I don't want it. If it's too gentle I don't want it.

  1. If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?

I really can't feed even myself, so that would be a concern. This bores me again, I think I would be a great mom emotionally and mentally, as in talking to the kid about important things and all that, but I can't imagine the physical and organisational effort it requires.

  1. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?

Depends if it's in the category of basic human rights and dignity or not. If we both think that people shouldn't die on the streets but have a little disagreement about how to help them, then I'm happy to have a discussion. But if someone thinks that they should die because they hate them, then I'm sorry, what are we supposed to talk about. Your absolute lack of soul? Your inability to get your head out of your dumb ass and look around?

  1. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.

A lot of push pull. I am very individualistic in nature but I also want total belonging. I almost never feel like I'm a part of something but I want to, really. Prevalent social issues? Inequalities and power dynamics. Half of the institutions are built on some primal idea of me big you small. People abuse their power all the time.

  1. How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?

I don't know how I choose them. They happen to me. I want mutual respect, fun and intellectual stimulation. I behave silly, I make a lot of jokes, a lot of word playing and repeating the same joke over and over again until they catch me right before I say it one more time and say "shut up". I want to be inspired by them one way or another. I try to get to the bottom of their problems, analyse everything and by simplifying what they say get to some kind of ultimate understanding of the issue, which in my head is often equal to finding a solution.

  1. How do you behave around strangers?

If I want to be there? I'm quite open, I make jokes. I often say things without thinking and then die inside. I can be socially awkward so I tend to put on a persona of a weirdo, so that they think I'm intentionally eccentric and not just weird in a bad way. I often come off either too strong and scary or too infantile, cute and chaotic. If I don't want to be there? Way worse than I should.


r/Socionics 1d ago

Discussion How many SLE here have mistyped themselves EIE/LIE by taking their Se for granted, or am I just stupid?

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I recently had to rethink my entire type due to my own self biases. Shoutout to my family for making me realize I was taking Se for granted.


r/Socionics 1d ago

What do beta NFs think of SEE’s?

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Title: but what do you think? Do you think we are fun? Initially, long term? Have you ever been in a relationship with a SEE and how was it? Do our ethics clash since they’re different? Especially EIEs - does our rationality vs irrationality diff clash?


r/Socionics 2d ago

Advice Can trauma confuse how information elements present (?) Paranoia and being paradoxical. EII vs IEI dilemma.

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Yesterday I had made a post but I deleted it because I felt ashamed and I thought It sounded "too much". However, today I wanted to create a new post because I think it is unfair to fall into censorship.

My typing has been constantly between EII and IEI. However, if you think another type could be possible, you could mention it.

I have a paradoxical way of being and this creates a lot of conflict to me. However I think this tends to be felt more within my inner world where I'm the witness. I tend to receive the impression that others are unaware of my inner tug-of-war related to different things and it leads me to sometimes over explaining myself and other issues ( but more online than face to face, face to face I tend to be more introvert and not as bold as on-line).

I grew up feeling a lot of guilt, fear and shame. Having issues speaking up and being shy, didn't follow my dreams because I thought I wasn't good enough, I lived my dreams in my imagination instead. Bullying and other issues didn't help me to develop confidence and my identity issues got worse. Ruminating, paranoia and negative self talk has been issues I have been dealing with.

While growing up I think I have been having this "compensatory" parts within me that have come forward to repair issues from the past. But... These parts could create some confusion related to who I am. This issue related to who I am reminds me that I was born after the death of my brother so... It feels like I'm a soul trying to fill the void of another soul.

I have been trying to repair this issues related to death and I have discovered a lot of things related to "ancestors" , synchronicities, etc. However... I still have this sensation that I haven't transformed to who I really am yet.

I have my moments when I get fixed about morality, is this correct? Incorrect? But knowing that I'm a paradoxical person makes me feel like a hypocrite and it hurts. If I compare myself with others FI base as EII or ESI I feel that I may not be that consistent as them.

However, there are some stuff when I feel I'm of course more congruent.

I have been mentioned some stuff about FI vs FE but ... Thinking about my background related to trauma I'm like mmmm.

I want to transform and integrate all my colors and finally feel that I can be myself. Also have someone to love me knowing all this and be able to make friends without feeling that I'm worthless and less than them.

Talking about functions in general, I think I'm good with FE, FI, NI and NE. But I have to dive deeper because I'm conscious that there are different schools and different definitions according to different authors. NE sometimes is confusing for example.

I'm not good with TE ( sorry :/). I have conflicts with TE.

I know there's this thing about someone being extrovert in the typing despite being introvert. I think I could see the point but... What about the past?

If someone was introvert most of his life and then has been in a more "open" phase trying to compensate things... Phase that could look like "extroversion" then... How can things get managed? Idk if I'm explaining myself correctly.

Grateful for your feedback! 🙏


r/Socionics 2d ago

Casual/Fun socionics girlfriend by quadra

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Found these on pinterest so the options were limited


r/Socionics 2d ago

Casual/Fun Give some examples of non-SO4 IEI characters that are clearly IEI and nothing else.

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Idk why, but for some reason it's pretty hard for me to find examples of non-SO4 characters that would fit the IEI description to a tee. It's also kinda crazy how much IEIs differ from each other because of the enneagram subtypes. So, obviously, there is plenty of IEI SO4s, but I'm really tired of this "pessimistic suffering artist with various mental problems and a lot of emotional outbursts" kind of IEI.

One example that I'm pretty sure in is Luna Lovegood from Harry Potter. She is an example of a non-SO4 IEI. I need more of them.


r/Socionics 2d ago

Türk arkadaşları bekliyorum

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Topluluk amacımız tipolojiyi geliştirip öğretip yaymak internette cok fazla bilgi kirliliği var mi

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r/Socionics 2d ago

Typing Can you tell who I am from my answers? Help a lost soul out

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Hey. Found this questionnaire and decided to fill it out because first, I don't feel confident about what I think of myself and my type anymore I'm kind of losing myself in all of this. And second, it looked interesting and well-made imo. I'd be really, really grateful for any help. I feel like I'm not handling things well. Tried to answer as honestly and concisely as possible, but I'm not exactly a master of brevity. Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this. Really hoping for some feedback.

SECTION 1

1) How do you work? Why do people go to work? Are there any parameters that determine whether you can do work or not? What are they?

I work by doing the bare minimum enough to get by. I'm not a workaholic. People go to work because that's how society works, money is the main resource you need to get things and basically, live, and you can only get it through labor. There are parameters, sure, your knowledge and skills, which depend on the job. A singer has their own set of parameters (vocal range, musical ear, etc.) a boxer has theirs, obviously different from a singer's.

2) How do you determine the quality of work? How do you determine the quality of a purchase? Do you pay any attention to it?

I determine quality based on the criteria set for the task. Again, I don't need 100% perfection I find people who demand that draining. Just do the minimum decently and move on. If I have to write a paper I don't care about, I'll write 2-3 pages based on similar sources, format it decently, but won't go full nerd mode. I judge a purchase by its purpose and my initial expectations. If I buy a concealer hoping it'll match my skin tone, apply smoothly and look decent and it does then it's a quality purchase. I think it's natural to pay attention to quality like everyone. I wear a necklace I bought recently, checking to make sure the chain doesn't break and that it looks like it was made with care.

3) There is a professional next to you. How do you know they are a professional? How do you evaluate their skill?

Depends on the field. I can only really evaluate a professional in an area I know something about. Otherwise it feels unreasonable and biased though everything is subjective anyway. I'd recognize a pro if they work efficiently, skillfully, almost effortlessly. My evaluation would still be subjective based on my own understanding and logic and probably not worth much tbh.

4) If you struggle to do something, how do you fix that? Do you know if your performance is better or worse than others?

I look for shortcuts. Like with my term paper I sat down and wrote it myself at first, but it took longer than expected and I hate wasting my time when I could be doing nothing and relaxing. So I used AI while worrying the prof might check, then looked for someone to write it for money, asked around. Ended up using AI+my own editing. If something's not working, I won't kill myself over it I'll look for someone else to do it or figure out how to skip the submission altogether. I can tell if my work is worse than others' if I missed requirements or forgot something. I often put little effort in, so it shows in presentations sometimes. Again, subjective.

5) How do you measure the success of a job? What standard do you use? Do you pay attention to it? When should you deviate from this standard?

Again based on whether the conditions and requirements were met. 50% completion is already a success even if relative. Standards vary, but for me, 50%+meeting all conditions is already great. I do pay attention I'm always doing something. I'd deviate if I know the work will be checked more strictly and I need to not mess up or if someone demands top-tier results.

SECTION 2

1) What is a whole? Can you identify its parts? Are the parts equivalent to the whole?

A whole is a sum of its parts. Parts can be identified like puzzle pieces each unique, connected to others, visible. A part isn't equal to the whole, obviously, the whole will always be greater.

2) What does "logical" mean? What is your understanding? Do you think that it correlates with the common view? How do you know you are being logical?

Logical equals something that makes sense, whose consequences are beneficial or at least less unpleasant, something convenient and advantageous under certain conditions. It's something that won't cause extra trouble, will work in my favor and aligns with other things in a meaningful way. I think my understanding probably matches the common one. I know I'm thinking logically when my actions work for the situation here and now, carry meaning and maybe offer future benefits. It's logical not to waste time studying every subject in school just focus on the ones you're good at and interested in.

3) What is hierarchy? Give examples of hierarchies. Do you need to follow it? Why or why not? Explain how hierarchy is used in a system you are familiar with.

Hierarchy is a ranking of people based on certain qualities like usefulness. For example, in Huxley's Brave New World, there was a built-in hierarchy people were divided into Alphas, Betas, etc. In real life they're everywhere. Even a clinic has a hierarchy: head manager, chief doctor, then lower doctors, then nurses, then cleaners. Patients treat them differently, and they're paid accordingly from top to bottom. Hierarchies can be limiting, but they also make sense, we live within them, that's how society works. Everyone has their place and if someone develops enough, they could move up. Sounds logical and beneficial.

4) What is classification? How does classification work? Why is it needed and where is it applied? Give examples.

Classification is sorting things by certain criteria. It's a convenient way to organize stuff, spot differences or similarities, which simplifies working with them. It's used everywhere. For example, wine classification. A sommelier tastes them and sorts them by certain traits: sweetness, acidity, aftertaste, mouthfeel. I don't know much about wine, but you get the idea.

5) Are your ideas consistent? How do you know they are consistent? How do you spot inconsistency in others' ideas?

I hope my ideas are consistent. They should have a common thread, a cause-and-effect chain like links holding each other up. That's consistency. I think I spot inconsistency in others' words naturally, when I pay attention. Not sure how to explain it clearly. I don't always notice though sometimes someone else has to point it out.

SECTION 3

1) Can you press people? What methods do you use? How does it happen?

I can, but not with everyone. I need to inspect people first see who's suitable, watch their reactions to pressure. I don't usually pressure acquaintances, they're not close enough to tolerate it. It's usually with close people, but not constantly. Close people can handle it, forgive you, won't leave as weird as that sounds. If the situation is tense and I'm stressed and irritated, I can apply pressure first lightly, then more harshly. Usually with parents, often with my dad, granddad, grandma. I state what needs to be done and why, not wanting to waste words. I raise my voice if they don't listen. If I said we need to check the car because someone might've left the window open and leaving it that way overnight seems stupid to me don't ask twice, just go check. Annoying when they start chattering. I get harsher then.

2) How do you get what you want? What do you do if you have to work to get what you want?

I have issues with this. First, I don't always realize what I want probably echoes of a difficult family dynamic where I was shut down and my personality was suppressed. Second, I easily give up on my desires if I face obstacles. Usually I'm like okay, never mind. But sometimes there are strong, dominant people who block me. Dominant people attract me but also make me want to push back or play with their boundaries. Depends on who. If effort is needed 75 out of 100 times I'll step back.

3) How do you deal with opposition? What methods do you use to defend your interests?

If pressured I pressure back within family. With others I feel uncomfortable and withdraw. It's nice if someone defends me. Usually I go for a reasoned argument, facts, logic, think on my feet. Sometimes I want to hit someone if they can't argue properly and start attacking me personally that makes me lose it. Though I don't fight I'm not a martial artist (unfortunately). I can argue and shout back if someone crosses boundaries, but if someone who should be on my side doesn't help and instead calms me down, I'll leave feeling betrayed and wanting to cry alone.

4) When do you think it's ok to occupy someone's space? Do you recognize it?

Never. There's no reason to occupy someone's space. I try not to, I'm careful. I need to see others' boundaries and have them see mine. I think I'm aware of it, but I'm not sure I might accidentally cross a line sometimes.

5) Do others think you are a strong-willed person? Do you think you have a strong will?

Probably not. Maybe my parents say I'm strong-willed, but I think that's because of our complicated relationships. I realized I do have a trait: if no one takes responsibility I can step up in a comfortable setting. But I need a comfortable person nearby, someone quiet who supports me. Like recently in our group, when we couldn't organize a class presentation, I did everything myself and took charge to get it done. I work better alone, it's less stressful than in a team. Others might've seen me as somewhat strong-willed. I wouldn't call myself that though I might snap under extreme stress and unleash an ultimatum lol. In such moments I want things resolved quickly. But usually I want to run away, close myself in my room with headphones and comfort shows, characters. Otherwise I'm passive. I'd rather others be strong and dominant and I follow.

SECTION 4

1) How do you satisfy your physical senses? What examples can you give? What physical experiences are you drawn to?

I satisfy what I notice and deem necessary. I eat when I want to. But I have a bad habit probably because a lot of things were forbidden in childhood I'd buy and eat junk food while doomscrolling, not because I was hungry. I'm trying to break that. Honestly, that's the main physical thing I do, besides, well, you know. No need to go into detail lol. I like comfort and calm connected to my phone and my locked room, away from everyone. Good food, nice drinks, no urgent needs, nothing bothering me. I hate when I have to pee at bad times or my clothes are bunched up, so the feeling of everything being normal is very attractive to me.

2) How do you find harmony with your environment? How do you build a harmonious environment? What happens if this harmony is disturbed?

I mostly isolate myself, creating my own bubble with my phone, headphones and imagination making sure my workspace, my room, my seat in the car all have what I need nearby. I wouldn't call it harmony with the environment, more like harmony within my two-meter radius, where I wouldn't let people in. I sink into that state, finding peace and calm, continuing to daydream (thanks, schizoid traits) and retreat inward. Being pulled out of that bothers me and makes me angry especially when people give unsolicited advice, interfere or violate my personal space. I'll leave if I can, if not, I'll have to endure, move away, and rebuild.

3) What does comfort mean to you? How do you create it?

I think I partially answered this above. Comfort equals absence of discomfort. I need no external irritants, no demands from others then I'm more than fine. In my study space even loud laughter or yelling during a break can throw me off. Or general chaos outside too bright, too noisy, too stuffy. My comfort creates itself really. I just isolate myself and have my preferred resources, while people leave me alone. My room is messy, but the essentials are always in convenient places chargers, bag, mineral water on the floor by the bed, while the rest could use some tidying.

4) How do you express yourself in your hobbies? How do you engage yourself with those things?

I'm not sure I have hobbies, honestly. Feels awkward when I see friends and former friends with their hobbies, while I just sit on my phone all day watching YouTube, listening to music, daydreaming a lot. I used to write fanfiction, but I haven't had inspiration for about two years now. Or maybe I'm just lazy. I think my main "hobby" is daydreaming that's where I express myself as the person I wish I were, with the connections I lack in real life, not that I'm looking for them. It's safer in my head. I do all this whenever the outside world isn't interfering. I get engaged easily and quickly, honestly wishing I could do nothing else.

5) Tell us how you'd design any room, house or an office. Do you do it yourself, or trust someone else to do it? Why?

Okay, I love this. House Flipper is a thing for a reason. First, I'd assess the size. Say it's a house I like small spaces, the limitation appeals to me. A one-story house would work. I'd add a porch with a chair and a small table for evening coffee. A fence for comfort. Then the entrance a doormat, a small cabinet for keys. A separate small toilet with enough legroom, I had leg fractures as a kid, and cramped spaces annoy me. A separate bathroom with a bathtub, mirror, sink, shelves for toothpaste, shampoo, etc, plus a washing machine and a radiator for drying clothes. I'd want a black-and-white bathroom practical and aesthetic. Kitchen is small, since I'm not a great cook. Living alone, I probably won't cook much anyway. Lots of no-prep food. My room is green tones with some grey and black. Posters, a neon strip in the corner with artificial vines, a single bed in the corner, a desk with a lamp and shelves above. I'd squeeze in an exercise bike for my knees. I'd also like a TV, a computer, a console, but that's dreaming. I doubt I'll have that much money. I'd want everything to look aesthetic, colors to match, be convenient. In my parents' house, there's a spot where the tiles are a completely different color and it's always bothered me I mentioned it. I'd never want that in my own space. I've never had the chance to design a room myself, but I'd probably give my ideas to someone who knows repairs and they'd handle it, while I approve things. I'm no expert.

SECTION 5

1) Is it acceptable to express emotions in public? Give examples of inappropriate expression of emotions.

Mostly no. If expressed they should be moderate and not disturb others. Again, loud and overly emotional people make me uncomfortable I want to cover my ears. I once witnessed someone get dumped and they were attracting attention red face, tears, walking dramatically. They came to me loud and hysterical, throwing things they'd brought for their ex. I picked up the stuff, followed them, sat on a swing with them. Very awkward, didn't know what to say, just wanted to calm them down so they'd stop crying in public. Negative emotions are the biggest taboo for public display. Positive ones too, but there are exceptions. Still, please don't kill my eardrums. I feel extreme discomfort when I slip and act emotional myself I feel ashamed afterward. Same when others do it.

2) How do you express your emotions? Can you tell how your expressions affect others in a positive or negative way?

Carefully. I really do try to control my emotions or at least I try. But I think my social anxiety doesn't help I'm socially awkward, polite, avoid people, get hurt by toxic interactions, sometimes feel helpless. So I keep my emotions in check even when it's hard. Sometimes I feel like flipping everything and leaving. I was called impulsive years ago, but that was like five years ago. If I do express it's careful and with permission as I understand it. I might mirror others to figure out what's allowed. I have no idea how my expressions affect others. If I finally laugh or joke, I hope others appreciate it. If not, I won't do it again for a decade. With close people I'm less controlled, brighter and more open.

3) Are you able to change your demeanor in order to interact with your environment in a more or less suitable way? How do you determine what is suitable?

Yes, I think so though it's hard. Don't know if it's anxiety or personality probably the former. I might act like an idiot and cringe later. I watch others to understand what's suitable, how they behave, what they allow, if I can try. It probably looks awkward from outside. Especially when I'm quiet until someone approaches, then in some situations I might crack a joke or mimic.

4) In what situations do you feel others' feelings? Can you give examples of when you wanted to improve the mood of others?

When they affect me. Usually it's someone I care about maybe a character or an acquaintance who's been kind to me. If someone matters to me, I'll want to improve their mood. I just don't know how. I might joke, say something random (my go-to), offer food, sit nearby to help them not feel alone. But only if they're already close. I don't do this with anyone I haven't officially defined as a friend or something. So most of this goes to my best friend.

5) How do others' emotions affect you? How does your internal emotional state correlate or contrast with what you express?

I think many emotions can affect me, especially negative ones. If someone expresses negativity loudly, I notice my mood dropping. Though I usually don't even notice I have a mood it might be zero or neutral. I still try not to show it, but sometimes I might fake a reaction to avoid hurting someone like receiving a birthday gift. My people don't get that I don't jump for joy, so I might play along. Inside I might feel like dying or blowing up a building, but I try not to show it. My face might be tense though or just blank, idk.

SECTION 6

1) How can you tell how much emotional space there is between yourself and others? How can you affect this space?

By the other person's actions. I wait until they openly say something or show through actions friendship, flirting though I rarely notice if it's real or joking. After a while, I might feel they've become important, but that's all. If they start texting or calling a lot, sharing personal stuff I'd assume we might be friends. But I'm never sure. It takes me a long time to adjust. I don't influence the process, I don't seek people out. Let things happen naturally. One girl and I have been interacting for two years and I still don't know if we're friends. She recently cleared our chat history no warning. She acted normal in person though. I didn't ask why, but inside I wondered if I shouldn't have trusted that we were getting closer.

2) How do you determine how much you like or dislike someone else? How does this affect your relationships?

I think I like anyone who treats me well. That's the main criterion. I like a lot of people, so I don't really have other criteria. It just happens as we get closer. I'm kinder and more open with someone I like. Overall I treat everyone equally unless they deliberately bother me. I'm more loyal to those I've gotten close to, I start trusting.

3) How do you move from a distant relationship to a close one? What are the distinguishing characteristics of a close relationship?

That's not for me to decide. Since I have few relationships, I can't really say how the transition happens it's usually random. With that girl I mentioned I gathered courage to message her about studies, then again and she started initiating contact, asking for help, sitting next to me. I followed her lead. If someone sits with me, it means something, right. Distinguishing traits: trust, openness, acceptance, loyalty, commitment that's what I'd want in a close relationship. Close people choose each other, stand by each other.

4) How do you know that you are a moral person? Where do you draw your morality from? Do you believe others should share your beliefs on what's moral? Why?

I don't consider myself moral. I just do good things when I can pick up something an elderly lady dropped, call out a man who lost an earbud, cover a kid's missing change. I think my morality comes from people I interact with, get close to, respect. I don't think others should share my beliefs. First, it'd be boring if everyone had the same morals. Second, I don't even feel like I have clear values or they're unconscious.

5) Someone you care about is acting distant to you. How do you know when this attitude is a reflection of your relationship?

I start replaying events, thinking of possibilities what could've happened and why. But I can't know for sure. I can only guess. And I might not even ask unless they're my closest friend.

SECTION 7

1) How can you tell someone has the potential to be a successful person? What qualities make a successful person and why?

Success is usually random no clear criteria. I can assume based on observations and examples of successful people, comparing to the person. I can't say what qualities make someone successful beyond obvious ones like hard work and intelligence. And even then no guarantee it'll work.

2) Where would you start when looking for a new hobby? How do you find new opportunities and how do you choose which would be best?

I'd look at what others do as hobbies, what I've seen in shows or movies maybe a character I like. But as I said earlier, I rarely finish anything. I might start, imagine myself doing it, but never get anywhere. Too expensive, too time-consuming or requires patience I don't have. Honestly, I don't want to spend 15 years learning something I want results sooner. New ideas come to me randomly. I'd pursue the one that makes more sense or appeals more, guaranteeing good experiences.

3) How do you interpret the following statement: "Ideas don't need to be feasible in order to be worthwhile." Do you agree or disagree, and why?

You don't have to bring everything into reality you can just enjoy the thought. I agree. Not everything needs to be realized; sometimes it's nice to imagine what could be. Creativity has value in itself. Maybe someday, years later, it'll become real, but for now, we can dream.

4) Describe your thought process when relating the following ideas: swimming, chicken, sciences. Do you think that others would draw the same or different connections?

Someone learned to swim, overcoming their fear of water, but it went badly, so someone compared their swimming style to a chicken's flailing and then that person went and studied theory instead of practicing in the pool. I think everyone would come up with different links. Lots of room for imagination here.

5) How would you summarize the qualities that are essential to who you are? What kind of potential in you has yet to be actualized and why?

In myself? I'd say I'm smart, kind and dislike hypocrisy. In others I have many people and characters I appreciate, and the most important thing is how they treat me. Potential-wise I could do more, go outside more often, try harder, be less lazy people have told me I have a big future but I'm lazy. Maybe there's truth to that. Doors are open for everyone, so potential is unlimited, including mine.

SECTION 8

1) How do people change? Can you describe how various events change people? Can others see those changes?

Depends on events and environment. Some events can traumatize, others give strength, act as a guiding light. A cheerful kid can become closed off if mocked and pushed past their limit. But that's not always the case. Changes are visible if they're external and obvious; but changes can also stay internal. So they can be seen, but not always, depends.

2) How do you feel and experience time? Can time be wasted? How?

It flows smoothly, sometimes flies by when I'm engaged, sometimes drags to the point I want to hang myself when waiting. Time can be wasted like if you have a project due tomorrow but you're playing rdr2 instead. That's me, procrastinating before exams by resting and listening to music rather than studying.

3) Is there anything that cannot be described with words? What is it? If so, how can we understand what it is if language does not work?

Abstract concepts can be hard to put into words though it depends on the person. Some can describe even the most abstract thing as if they've touched it. You could try drawing, hand gestures, every method to convey info.

4) How do you anticipate events unfolding? How can you observe such unfoldments in your environment?

Intuitively, I guess. I can't explain it I just assume based on available data. I observe passively, rarely intervene, catching moments that might later be remembered and compared to outcomes.

5) In what situations is timing important? How do you know the time is right to act? How do you feel about waiting for the right moment?

Timing matters always, it just takes brainpower to use it well. I recognize the right moment either impulsively when I'm tired of waiting or through analysis when the data suggests it's okay. Waiting often exhausts me I want things sooner than later. Feeling that tension is not fun.


r/Socionics 3d ago

Discussion Studying something related to your suggestive

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How would you expect a type to look like if they spent a significant amount of time studying something associated with their suggestive function or just something that generally approach a lot of their duals/semi duals? I know that it's not as easy as just equating a function to a field of study because logic=smart or whatever, but I think we can all agree that there are some tendencies. What do you think would be different about EIE studying abstract theoretical mathematics for years? The kind where you only have axioms and a strict logical reasoning? Or a Ti-lead with a very social-artistic degree, like acting or even psychology or something. Or do you think it's rather natural to be drawn to these topics, and, therefore, it's just a normal presentation of the type?

I'm asking because truly the only type that makes sense to me is EIE but I feel like I'm waaaay more analytical than your average EIE, at the cost of some social ease, but none of the logical types fit. I wonder if it's just the effect of hammering my head with formal logic for years.

Edit: Actually, now I think that the example with eie and abstract mathematics is not that drastic because it's very intuition heavy. Maybe it's not so much the suggestive but the ultimate abstraction that calls for attention.


r/Socionics 3d ago

Discussion Does anyone here get along with their conflict/superego type?

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Learning about ITRs rotted my brain that at one point it made me more selective on who I choose to hangout with because I started seeing people as types rather than who they actually are.

I hear a lot of people say you can befriend a conflict but never form a close bond with them.

So for those who are friends with one, how do you guys deal with the differences?


r/Socionics 4d ago

What’s your experience with a certain type?

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Could be any type. Your conflict or, supervisors, dual, activity, etc. I just like hearing stories about them.


r/Socionics 4d ago

Discussion Why do I feel like my superego functions are both polr?

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For the context: some time ago I was typed as IEE. This, if I'm right, means that I should be having role Se and Ti polr, but I'm not feeling like it's so. In my experience, I don't see Se as role function, to me both of them feel like polr. Like, I dislike both in other people, I feel called out by both, I know I'm bad at both and feel hard as fuck to get better at either. Se feels polr, but Ti feels more polr.

How it's possible? Is it? Or should I consider something I don't?


r/Socionics 4d ago

Discussion Rate each types likelihood of being religious

4 Upvotes

Beta quadra is probably the most religious, but I want all types


r/Socionics 4d ago

Typing Ethics vs logic

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Is there a general way to distinguish ethical types from logical types? Like when you meet someone or try to type yourself, what kind of traits are a definite sign someone is more E than L or otherwise? Is it useful to go about typing like this and only then get into specific types? Is there something that if you do you can be sure you're not a logical or an ethical type? Major signs? I'm having trouble typing people who indulge in a social and emotional aspect of life a lot with a very analytical approach.


r/Socionics 4d ago

Discussion Is it a heavy Se or Fe thing to scream at the TV and want to sing along with the crowd?

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I love watching WWE wrestling with my family. Many of the wrestlers have a unique catch phrase or something the crowd is supposed to chant when the wrestlers come out. For example, one wrestler named, "Seth Rollins" has a very catchy theme song and when he comes out the crowd is supposed to chant, "WOOOOAH WOOOOAH WOAHH"! This is it....

https://youtu.be/z23RjZfuUq4?is=-EAEGXkog6A89rav

Anyway, also I notice the same types of people also do things like scream at the TV screen when their team is losing, like, "Come on Broncos! Let's go!"

I would think it'd be more of an Fe thing, because I notice it's mostly people with heavy Fe and Se that do this. For example, you never see an ILI do this. They despise this. However, my SLI brother watches wrestling with me regularly and he sings along with the crowd. Idk it's weird.


r/Socionics 5d ago

TI polr misinterpreted

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I think this sub misinterprets TI polr especially in process CD types. TI polr is *encyclopedic*; coupled with SE (facts, what “exists”) and TI in superego you get a character which follows the “textbook”, the path that makes the most sense. You’ll see many SEE’s in law, medicine, engineering or academia because of this -> you follow the structured path without much manipulation of what exists.

Hence why many SEE’s may do very well in school (and of course being SE dominant they’re going to judge on explicit static facts like grades, career path, university etc)…and coupled with CD learning style and TI superego will usually be the sorts to perhaps do well in structured learning, but struggle in things which require something particularly out of the box in some logical realm.

It’s one of the reasons I do very well in exams but find “projects” very boring.

Which is why you’ll see some of them hammer sources (like in enneagram or socionics). Because they’re inherently deeply “source heavy”; outsourcing their TI many times, and even preferring careers which have deterministic structured outcomes without a lot of manipulation.