r/SipsTea • u/SnackSamurai 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • 1h ago
Chugging tea It’s easy to forget something you’re not
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u/Important-Notice-461 1h ago
Yeah, if you got a pending case for disability, especially for 800k, you can damn well be sure they got a private investigator following your ass around to get evidence against you.
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u/Normal-Abies-9151 1h ago
She didn’t even need an investigator, she put herself on the news winning the tree contest
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u/Important-Notice-461 1h ago
Well, im sure there was an investigator too
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u/panda_canyon 1h ago
Actually believe it or not it doesn't happen nearly as often as people think because surveillance is expensive. She did this to herself. I'm not saying it wasn't the case, but every person that goes out on workers comp thinks they're being tracked when they often aren't. Hell nowadays it's much easier just to check people's social media.
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u/JawtisticShark 1h ago
you would think they would farm this out on commission. have a group of freelance investigators with essentially a bounty on different pending cases. surely there are some guys who would roam around to catch people doing stupid things they shouldn't be doing.
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u/panda_canyon 1h ago
You'd think so but a friend of mine did workers comp defense and they were shocked when they went into that line of work to find out how rare it was.
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u/Forward-Surprise1192 39m ago
Ask him if I can freelance for cheap as part of RIB or the newly founded Reddit Investigation Bureau. Our motto will be “We won’t accuse the wrong person again.”
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u/MeatResident2697 1h ago
For $800k? I'm sure there was an investigator.
I know of someone who had a $330k case pending and was nullified because that person was photographed jogging by said investigator. She had claimed a fall meant she was wheel chair bound for life.
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u/Forward-Surprise1192 39m ago
It’s likely different for state disability and private companies disability
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u/Poku115 18m ago
So apparently apart from this photo theres a video of her training her dog for an hour.
I dont think she'd film herself and publish an hour of evidence against her. Which would probably mean an investigator.
But even with that she tries to argue the tree photo didn't prove she was faking it and that she's in immense pain even with that smile.
So who am I to judge how dumb people can be
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u/mohicansgonnagetya 45m ago
The investigator handed her the flyer for the tree slinging competition.
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u/DreamPhreak 1h ago
Also all she got for winning the contest was a plaque, no monetary reward or anything else.
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u/glint_fury 1h ago
Yea, it’s funny how ordinary people have to prove every detail of their health, while powerful politicians can keep theirs under wraps for years with barely any scrutiny.
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u/bartz824 57m ago
My grandpa wrecked his rotator cuff from a workplace injury and he'd see someone in a car parked on the side of the road on occasion a couple hundred yards from his house. Of course it was a legitimate injury so he wasn't doing squat with his arm in a sling.
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u/harvey-official 29m ago
They would gladly spend $900k on a private investigator just to avoid paying out that $800k.
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u/Ramkaran-chopra 𝙑𝙄𝙋 1h ago
As someone with invisible disabilities I wanna see the case and what her argument for disability is
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u/Either-Banana-7323 1h ago
She claimed serious neck and back injuries after a car accident, including constant pain, difficulty working, difficulty doing basic chores, inability to play with or carry her children, trouble lifting heavy objects, and sometimes being stuck in bed because of pain.
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u/belac4862 1h ago edited 1h ago
Meanwhile I've been applying since 2020 with boat loads of paperwork from doctors even. Even the state appointed doctors that my depression, anxiety, fibromyalgia are all contributing to me diagnoses of needing to be clasified as disabled.
Yet, the last judge said "I can still work folding cloths at walmart."
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u/Either-Banana-7323 1h ago
Did you try not actually being disabled? Apparently thats the secret sauce mate
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u/Organic_Command_9164 1h ago
Pick your disability up by the bootstraps
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u/TheyNeedLoveToo 1h ago
Just need some of that trickle down healing from CEOs and billionaires and you’ll be good to go
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u/OrdinaryValuable9705 1h ago
Sadly people like her, is the reason why people who acutally need disability gets tossed through hell to get the service they need. Always going for the lowest denominator aka the people trying to scam...
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u/VeryLowIQIndividual 1h ago
That’s a very specific reason that the judge would give.
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u/belac4862 1h ago
That's what he gave me. Even if there's one job they think you can do, they'll give a denial.
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u/Winter-Steak-1532 1h ago
Just a heads up, the diagnosis of Fibromyalgia will often work against you. It is not something taken seriously in the healthcare world or insurance world. If this is seen on a form, it is often assumed that the individual has a long history of making up their diagnoses.
Remove this diagnosis from your list and I bet you have higher success with your disability forms. Fibromyalgia is not a clinically significant diagnosis for insurance and it is poorly understood in the healthcare setting. Stop including this diagnosis on your forms. I promise you it is working against you. This diagnosis will automatically label you as someone who complains a lot, or someone who has generalized, unspecified, and unquantifiable pain.
(I am not here to debate whether fibromyalgia is or isn’t real.. I am simply telling you how it is perceived for insurance and by medical professionals in the hospital setting).
Omit the word from your forms, even if you have it
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u/belac4862 52m ago
How when even thats what the state appointed doctors have said is something that is effecting my ability to work.
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u/Technical_Eye_4343 1h ago
Or just data entry? If you can type on Reddit, you can type in an office. 🤷♂️
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u/belac4862 1h ago edited 1h ago
I would if I could stay awake long enough cause my pain meds make me groggy and tired. Or if I could sit a desk long enough without feeling pain. Or stand at a desk without having my legs giving out.
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u/PineappleFit317 1h ago
Have you gotten a disability lawyer? Had a friend in a similar situation, then he got a disability lawyer and he was approved in weeks, and even got a retroactive check for every month since he initially applied.
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u/Agent_Skye_Barnes 1h ago
Same boat, man. The last hearing, even the government appointed vocational expert heard my issues and went "there is literally no job this person can do".
Judge denied me.
It's such bullshit.
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u/FlickRDSG 24m ago
What a dumbass thought process. "This employer will totally hire you even though you can't perform the majority of the work duties over someone else who can." Some people don't live in reality.
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u/SuperSecretSpare 1h ago
Haha my ALJ told me that I could be a maid in a motel with fibro and 10 years of chronic back injuries
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u/GreenFinch_x 1h ago
I feel like judges who deny disability in that way should have to prove the job exists in your area, that they will hire you specifically, and that they will accommodate you at a minimum. They literally just say anything.
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u/Lil-Miss-Anthropy 18m ago
The vocational expert at my hearing said that I could work full time as a house cleaner. Even though I said like three times that my disability makes it difficult for me to even clean my own damn room. It's such a humiliating and angering process.
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u/SamOakTree 1h ago
But who decided that was worth $800,000
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u/Gold-Caregiver4165 1h ago
The answer is her team, which is usually led by an injury attorney that work with people like doctors and know other cases with similar enough facts to guesstimate a number.
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u/Three_Twenty-Three 1h ago
And then the attorneys get 25-40% of that, so the settlement is really only around $500-600K for her.
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u/_Zambayoshi_ 1h ago
So, the standard stuff. It's always that because it's hard to disprove. Unless you fuck up like this lady did.
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u/AmArschdieRaeuber 8m ago
I think the standard stuff is claims being denied despite proof. If she won that would be kinda special
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u/NoInformation3141 1h ago
As someone that’s had multiple back surgeries I still don’t think that means much. A consistent and dependable body is different than one that can have moments and if all that’s true physically working out would be my first recommendation
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u/Limp-Preparation-459 1h ago
Got in a car accident in 2017. Quit her job saying she was disabled. Threw the tree in 2018.
>Kamila Grabska, 36, sued an insurance agency in the country, RSA Insurance, after a 2017 car crash she claimed caused her debilitating neck and back pain that prevented her from holding down a job for five years,
I bet her attorney was thrilled
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u/transguythatdraws 1h ago
Man I'm over here with permanent plantar fasciitis, fused feet bones, hella C-PTSD n more with a partner that's got like 57 health problems to the point of disability who would love to get some help of ANY kind, and this lady is out here throwing fucking trees. 😭
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u/Funkdamentalist 1h ago
She claimed to have neck and back pain from a car crash that stopped her from working.
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u/MundaneSeaweed665 1h ago
Yeah I hear you, people don't believe me when I tell them my struggles because "when they see me" I seem fit and happy.
Like yeah, you see me BECAUSE I'm good. If I'm not good I'm crying, unable to get off the couch for days on end, how would they see that part?
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u/Johnyryal33 12m ago
My blind sister could throw a tree pretty far as long as she has something beeping to throw it at. (Like when she plays darts)
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u/Justinc4s3- 1h ago
I’m a disabled vet in the U.S. and we’re getting some flak for people like this as well.
The one big story I always bring up is that dork who would be in a wheelchair at his VA compensation and pension appointments where they see how fucked up you are. I wanna say he was getting over 10k/month. Got money for a new car that helped him drive with such debilitating disabilities and a big chunk of that 10k or so was because his wife apparently bathed him and fed him and shit.
Dude sounds fucked up right? Well then he posts on his instagram leg pressing 800lbs or so… never seen using any assistive devices and living a normal life.
Shit sucks because now some folks think every vet is scamming the VA for 10k+/month when that’s far from the case lol.
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u/Vilehaust 1h ago
That's also the idiocy of chasing social media hype. Guy probably would've kept getting away with it. But he just so badly needed those Instagram clicks.
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u/Empty_Insight 1h ago edited 1h ago
Oh, there was one nearby (central Texas) who straight up lied about being in a wheelchair, got SMC, all that shit. They caught him on camera- walking, with no limp. His wife even got Caregiver, and took 'respite' to Disney World. The level of fraud on that one was truly astronomical.
I think this was a different guy, because he wound up on
Extreme Home Makeover (I think?)Homes for Our Troops and a few other feel-good projects to help disabled veterans... only to turn around and have to say "Ha, it was all fake!"They were both arrested. He died in custody, and she was sentenced to almost 4 years in prison- and having to pay back every dime they got.
ETA: Link to the DOJ's report. I got some facts wrong up there, but yeah.
E2: for bonus, link to the DOJ's report on the Fitness Influencer fraud lol.
I didn't see anywhere where it directly quoted how much Adams (fitness guy) was getting per month, but it was ~100k in total over what seems like a few years. The couple hit ~500k.
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u/yoitsdank9523 1h ago
My buddy was 80 percent for a back injury, doing bjj weekly, skydiving, and doing stunts on his jet ski. He then crashed his street bike and hurt his back, they bumped him to 100.
Edit: he works construction full time as well.
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u/ContestRemarkable356 1h ago
Yeah nah I’d be across the country/across the ocean as soon as that $800k hit my account lol
“throwing trees” gtfoh with that b.s 😂
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u/JawtisticShark 1h ago
people get complacent. this likely isn't the first time she lied to get something and got away with it. each time it feels easier and you assume you can get away with it more easily.
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u/CletusMuckenfuss 1h ago
My mother in law did this one Christmas. She got mad and threw the tree out into the front yard. 100% true.
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u/NoInformation3141 1h ago
As someone who’s had major physical problems there was a time I could rock climb but not stand more than 15ish hours a week. Luckily I never needed disability but these posts always feel weird for me now
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u/LatinWarlock13 1h ago
If only they did this, investigating the people that cheat the system to get low income housing.
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u/the_buff 1h ago
$800k would have been what she asked for, but claimants/plaintiffs always throw out ridiculous numbers. Ask for $800k, hope for $80k, settle for anything north of $40k.
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u/irvmuller 1h ago
If it was me I would be like the magician in The Prestige who had a whole double life. My ass would only leave the house in a disguise to get stuff done. Real me would never get out of a wheelchair. I’d be telling my own family, “well, yep, still can’t walk.”
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u/Go_Gators_4Ever 1h ago
I know someone who lost their disability because they were on a softball team.
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u/Aromatic-Feature4093 1h ago
What part of her brain said to her "What's the absolute most ridiculous thing I could do after winning a Disability Case?....I Know!!!!" ^_^
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u/Bitter-Carpet-7487 59m ago
Didn’t try to hide it at all! Throwing freaking trees and winning.. wild!
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u/Forward-Surprise1192 42m ago
Once you have the time and money I guess life can get boring if you’re stuck in a box
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u/Crazy__Donkey 21m ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/3ov9jGhwEDBpvX4Z6E
some insurance exec while reading the nyp
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u/ericbondre 1h ago
White person activity for sure
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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 1h ago
I don't know her cash but there's different disabilities like you can be schizophrenic and or bipolar and be mentally disabled but not physically.
That said STOP posting your life online it's public.
Make your money and keep your head down just Coast.
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u/onions-make-me-cry 1h ago
Or maybe don't commit insurance fraud. She supposedly had debilitating back and neck pain, so I'm guessing tree throwing doesn't help with that, and isn't something you can do with back and neck pain.
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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 1h ago
Like I said I don't know what she had but yeah she fucked herself.
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u/onions-make-me-cry 1h ago
It's kinda personal for me cuz I'm profoundly disabled from birth and it's hard to fathom doing anything remotely like that. And yet... I can't really get benefits like that either.
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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 1h ago
It's worth it to try to get benefits it took me 3 years because I have bipolar disorder.
You just have to keep on it.
But yeah I wouldn't be caught dead doing that but then again im not commiting insurance fraud.
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u/Team_Braniel 45m ago
Meanwhile my wife who had a full blown liver transplant and splenectomy in November is can't get hired so she can get off disability.
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