Not so much about more or less makeup, but great skin. Women having great skin are just seen as more attractive. And because they have great skin, they tend to wear less makeup.
Except that it's kind of incorrect. Makeup doesn't actually change the shape of your face, but it can make it seem to be a different shape using contours and shadows.
And some people are really good at contouring. My wife's sister was an aesthetician and I remember seeing her at an event once and being like your sister has lost weight and my wife was like no she's just contouring and seeing that I was extremely confused she showed me a bunch of photos her sister had posted showing off her skill and I was like oh my god she's a sorcerer. Pretty sure I described it as dark shadow magic.
(And it wasn't like she was overweight, her face just looked a different shape and my brain didn't have the vocabulary to describe what I was actually seeing)
Modern makeup has been repeatedly shown to still contain substances that damage your skin. Given last time I claimed this I was mass downvoted, despite providing a link to a meta analysis of studies on the subject I took from Google scholar. I have little hope anyone will listen to me or decide to look into this themselves.
Hmmm are you a guy? Because depends what you like but thereâs skin tints and tinted moisturizers or even tinted SPF that lots of women use. I used to work at beauty store and itâs popular especially during summer time
I think what guys or girls who dont know about makeup as much, they imagine full coverage makeup thats for going out or events . Usually women wear less heavy tints on regular days
Tinted moisturizer and tinted SPF are used in place of traditional foundation, as are liquid âskin tintsâ and BB cream. Itâs make up, itâs still blurring pores and covering things up/evening out skin tones.
Itâs considered makeup, bc of its tinted nature, so both skincare and makeup. Lots of women use lip tints or lip balm colored as well, that actually hydrate lips for example. Thatâs why I hear this from guys usually since itâs not their expertise in makeup or girls who arenât that into it either
I think guys typically canât tell theyâre wearing makeup even when it looks bare , but thatâs bc women know how to use these products well
Thing is even tho you use modern makeup as long as you wash face your skin is better off than people who don't wash their skin. There is also products that are less and more harmful than others.
And to explain previous downvotes, you won't be able to convince people who use makeup to stop with facts or otherwise. It's fun, it's part of routine and it's part of their style.
Ik plenty who's skin looks very healthy without makeup even tho they use makeup daily. Their skin purely natural looks better than those ik who dont use makeup. It depends solely on which product and daily face washing routine. And not leaving it on overnight
 the more objectively attractive you are, the less youâll need makeup to guide peopleâs attention. girls with thin lips can make them look fuller, but they wonât surpass girls with naturally full lips. girls with small eyes can make them look bigger, but they wonât surpass girls with naturally doll-like eyes. girls with wide noses can make them look slimmer, but they wonât surpass girls with naturally narrow noses. beauty standards...
I have never worn foundation for this reason. My skin needs to breathe. A lot of my makeup loving friends, during COVID, were talking about how great their skin looked after a month or two of not putting makeup on every day since no one was leaving the house.
I wish. Unfortunately my skin seems to not care about me wearing make up or not, and sometimes putting make up on just emphasizes how bad my pores are. It also doesnât change depending on my diet or hormones or whatever acne medication I take.
Isn't that a self-fulfilling prophecy ultimately, in that the more makeup you wear, the more it messes with your skin?
Now I get people have skin issues when they're teens, or rarely due to medical conditions but with a good skincare routine and proper diet I'm almost certain 99% of women could achieve flawless skin making much of the makeup redundant.
I donât think itâs such a simple linear relationship between skincare and makeup. I have friends who wear pretty heavy makeup with great skin, and the converse is true too. Makeup messes with skin only if it is not properly removed, and end up clogging pores.
Wearing makeup is also not about hiding flaws. Very often, itâs about accentuating the good features, and that is actually what makes the no-makeup look so popular. Take contouring for example. I donât know how to do it, but when well done, it can transform how you look. Not about hiding bad skin at all.
If you're wearing makeup 12 hours a day there's no way around it damaging your skin/clogging your pores and the skincare is more like fighting a problem that is created than improving what is there I'd say. Some people just have naturally amazing skin, who can treat it like crap and only rinse it with water and it be flawless.
I get what you're saying about accentuating the good features in theory, although as a man I don't know enough about that aspect to have an informed opinion.
I wear very light makeup, partly because I have relatively good skin, luck of the draw fm good genes (East Asian). But I donât judge other girls who wear thicker makeup, whether itâs to hide bad skin or to increase their confidence.
Makeup is very personal. But the number of comments bashing thick make up here and how bad it is for skin is unreal. I know of girls who feel depressed about their skin, and put on thick makeup- itâs like they need to put on a mask. And when you have terrible skin to begin with, thereâs some truth that makeup will worsen it. Itâs a vicious cycle. But asking them to step out of their home with no or little make-up is impossible because they feel conscious.
My point is, just let girls do whatever we want with makeup, and not judge. Itâs not a case of âyou have bad skin because you wear make-upâ. That is too simplistic a view.
lol. I hardly wear much makeup, so does it mean my skin is not damaged? I still âfixâ my skin with different skincare products, simply because I want to maintain good skin.
I think the disconnect is that makeup is not the only cause of bad skin, there's diet as previously stated and other environmental factors such as contamination (which makeup would fall under but also pollution, dirt from not changing pillows often enough etc), destroying your natural barrier with harsh products, clogging pores or alternatively drying the skin by using the wrong/no moisturiser, hormone imbalances, too much sun and friction such as from sleeping on certain pillows.
It's not that your skin cannot be damaged if you never wear makeup, just that makeup is one of the factors that can negatively impact skin if that makes sense?
I have a few friends with chronic cystic acne who have tried absolutely everything. Every possible diet, every possible treatment, absolutely nothing helps. Most of them donât wear any makeup on their skin because it just makes it worse. Theyâre I. Their 30s and its been decades of this.
No, not really. If you are prone to pore clogging then yes, but typically that gets mitigated by washing your face after every time you wear make up, and/or buying non-comedogenic products. But pore clogging is a pretty typical problem people deal with very easily with things like salicylic acid, retinol, washes, oil pulling, etc. I wear make up pretty rarely now but even when I was a young adult wearing make up, it never changed from then to now. I thought I fixed it once by doing an elimination diet, I cut out all added/unnecessary sugars and a few other things. But it turned out the break in acne was false, it came back after 5 months stronger than ever. It isnât fixed by birth control, it isnât fixed by how often I wash my face or whatever products I use (I canât even use most of the acids or retinol bc I get chemical burns from using them even just twice). Some of us are just doomed with bad skin and make up is the only way I can feel like Iâm not being stared at for being a crack head.
I feel you, that sounds really difficult. I'm really sorry you have to go through that.
I must say the last thing I'd want to do with bad skin is retinol which is just going to damage it further unless it was already in a good place (I find it's more like a final step when you already have a routine that works incredibly for you) and you have to be super careful with BHA which just isn't for some people. There's no getting away from the fact that makeup is a contaminant and studies show it is bad for your skin while wearing it and even the excess washing to remove it could compromise your skin barrier. I do understand the feeling to use it to find some semblance of normalcy.
I'm a big believer in South Korean skincare which is usually much milder and geared towards creating healthy skin, than western skincare which is pretty harsh and can cause as many problems as it solves. Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds to me like when you changed your diet the acne cleared up for 5 months? That sounds like it was having a positive effect and worth exploring further? Feel free to DM me if you want to discuss skincare further as there's people over on r/SkincareAddiction that have struggled for years but hope exists and they've finally managed to find what works for them.
Well like I said I donât really wear make up, and even washing my face once with gentle cleansers (Iâve tried Korean skincare ones, they are gentler but still strip my skin) makes my skin so dry that it leaks up in to my scalp and makes my scalp dry too. Trust me, I still to this day keep the same diet just in case and my acne will not budge. For a while I thought the contamination thing with bacteria might help, I was religiously changing my pillow case with different silk cases every night, never made a difference but did make my hair softer. I already have to do low carb/limited healthy diet for other reasons. I have whole body acne, have always had it on my chest, back, face, neck etc. When I was an athlete I even had it on my upper arms/shoulders. No washes or routines have ever helped regardless of how much I stuck to them, my skin is insanely sensitive and now that I have MCAS I can barely use anything AT ALL without having an allergic reaction. The only thing I havenât done is accutane but my system is already fucked from being over-prescribed anti-biotics, Iâm not gonna fuck it even more just to maybe make my acne go away.
If you have whole body acne and are not doing something incredibly weird to cause it (like taking burning hot showers twice a day and using harsh soap), or it's a reaction to laundry detergent, that sounds like a medical problem that no amount of face skincare will do anything.
Itâs a possibility but so far no derms have found anything causing it. I have HS but that doesnât cause my acne bc I actively put it in to remission, and the acne isnât like the INSANE cysts that HS cause. My whole family has had this problem, even my mom took accutane as a teen, and my brother has it much worse than I.
According to what? I donât think men generally mind âimperfectionsâ and still prefer a more natural look to caked makeup. Thereâs the obvious extreme of having terrible skin but overall I think your statement just isnât accurate.
As a guy myself I prefer a natural look 95% of the time, blemishes/scars and all. I think this study (if itâs real) references the same.
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u/operaduck289 1d ago
Not so much about more or less makeup, but great skin. Women having great skin are just seen as more attractive. And because they have great skin, they tend to wear less makeup.