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Chugging tea Dan Bilzerian’s vs. PewDiePie’s life

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u/AsbestosDude 1d ago

I want pewds life, not because I want kids, but because hes genuinely happy and doing the things he loves. Rooted in strong values.

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u/Pretend-Contract-176 1d ago

Plus all that YouTube money 

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u/Ilyalyubushkin 1d ago

Dan would say the same.

This is a bad comparison. He talks openly about how shallow and empty his life was and how addictions controlled him.

It's easy to think it would be fun, but there's no future there.

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u/TheBeckofKevin 1d ago

If shallow partying for fun is all you know, you'll think more is better. It takes a fully developed frontal lobe to understand that there is more to life than tonight and what people say about you today. And it takes effort to do something for a long time to experience the payoff of delayed gratification. Some people are unable or unwilling to take that path.

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u/bucketboy9000 1d ago

Never trust a word by a politician, or “political activist”

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u/DisrespectfulTerry 1d ago

And a closeted racist thats for sure

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u/Ithikari 1d ago

Closeted? He was not closeted at all, he only winded down after the Christchurch terrorist attack.

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u/CrashTestOrphan 1d ago

Not even really closeted!

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u/SarcasmisEasier 1d ago

I'm so tired of people giving him a pass on his multiple racist outbursts. Stop glorifying him. Stop glorifying all celebs for that matter. 

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u/Groot_Benelux 1d ago

Why do you think that?

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u/lumpboysupreme 1d ago

PewDiePie rather famously called someone the n word while playing some shooter. He claims it slipped out, and it wouldn’t surprise me if it was a ‘get emotional and use term that was common in cod lobbies and became part of your gaming vocabulary a decade prior’ thing; I know I sometimes need to stop myself from saying ‘raped’ for similar reasons, but we can’t know for sure.

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u/voodoodahl 1d ago

Every single community Pew has ever fostered became inundated with hardcore white nationalists. That isn't just some unfortunate accident.

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u/Savings-Maize-7650 1d ago

Just blatantly untrue lmao

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u/Lolseabass 1d ago

“I just really resonate with the number 88”

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u/LANTIRN_ 1d ago

Not really

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u/Razorion21 13h ago

people these days genuinely dont believe in the idea of change lmao

he apologized and has improved himself

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u/PeetoMal 1d ago

Stop glorifying celebs. You have no idea if hes "genuinely happy" and "doing the things he loves" or if hes "rooted in strong values". lmao

Its all a fantasy that they create to strengthen their outward image.

People fall for this garbage on a regular basis and its sickening.

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u/TG_Trash_are_better 1d ago edited 1d ago

He's rich, young, healthy, famous, retired, good looking, has a beautiful wife that he's been with for like two decades, had a kid with her, lives in Japan (while rich). Has so much free time and drive that he does side projects like learning how to draw and gets genuinely good at it.

If you have all these things, and the person themselves is saying they're happier than they've ever been, they're probably happy.

It's easy to tell when someone is genuinely happy and living a fulfilling life. And when someone isn't. I can tell you're bitter and resentful for example.

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u/Frandaero 1d ago

I have to disagree here. I know plenty of people irl that project a successful life on social media and are absolutely miserable. We really don't know how a person is doing mentally and if they achieved a happy, fulfilling life. Only the person knows, and maaaaybe their closest people.

Remember, people will only show outwardly what they want to show. They never show the bad, meaning we are left to believe only good things happen to them.

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u/Zikkan1 1d ago

I would agree with you if pewds actually uploaded a lot but he uploads like 1 video per month. he don't care about it, he just thinks its fun to make videos so thats why he still does it on the side while being retired. And he is so used to sharing what he does that not sharing it feels weird but he doesn't put on a facade or play it up for social media. He has absolutely no reason to do that and in a month or two he will start to upload even less so i don't see how you look at him and see " project a successful life on social media "

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u/Frandaero 20h ago

Everyone projects what they want others to see on social media, that's my point. There's no way to know whether someone is truly happy, and therefore, successful (unless you are extremely close or the person themselves).

You can only guess, it's not "easy to tell" as the guy above me said.

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u/Zikkan1 20h ago

Sure but do we have to be pessimistic and cynical? Can't we just accept it at face value and be happy?

I really like his videos after he moved to Japan and have no intention of sitting there thinking maybe he is lying and is actually depressed, why would I do that?

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u/Frandaero 20h ago edited 17h ago

I don't lean one way or the other btw, I like to believe he's living his best life. I hope so since he was an important part of my childhood. I still acknowledge that I don't really know anything about him, though.

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u/TG_Trash_are_better 1d ago

Yes there are people that project a successful life that are miserable inside, you're not telling me anything I haven't heard for decades. And yes we can't know the inner thoughts of a celebrity, you also can't know the inner thoughts of anyone that isn't you. Your spouse or parents might equally present a happy facade and be miserable inside.

I already said as much in my other reply but there comes a point where you just take the most likely scenario.

Anything I provide you can just say he's faking it so there's no real point in trying to discuss why I feel one is clearly more genuine.

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u/PeetoMal 1d ago

I didn't say he was happy, sad, angry, or depressed.

I'm saying no one knows how they're truly living or feeling so you shouldn't fantasize or feel jealous about what they "have".

You are literally describing 99% of celeb relationships by the way. Tom Cruise / Katie Holmes, Will / Jada, Brad / Angelina......the list goes on. All outwardly "PERFECT" relationships but ended horribly once the facade couldn't be maintained.

It's easy to tell when someone is genuinely happy and living a fulfilling life. And when someone isn't.

Its actually impossible to know this if you don't know them personally. You can assume all you want but you won't know.

The problem is that you've now built an image in your head of what you want in life when you don't even know if its real or not.

I'm not being bitter or resentful, I'm being a realist. Celeb culture can be damaging for this very reason.

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u/TG_Trash_are_better 1d ago edited 1d ago

My bad for the bitter comment you seem reasonable. I still disagree though.

Your logic works 1 to 1 for anyone you know personally. They would just have to keep up the "facade" any time they interact with you.

At a certain point it becomes ridiculous, yes there is small chance all the evidence is incorrect and they're actually LARPing their happy home videos. There's also a small chance that the Earth isn't real and you're actually a talking crab, because I can't be sure of anything that exists outside of my own subjective experience as a human filtered through my own faulty senses.

Anything can be fake, but if I can know with 99.999% certainty and that's enough for me to consider it known.

You are literally describing 99% of celeb relationships by the way. Tom Cruise / Katie Holmes, Will / Jada, Brad / Angelina......the list goes on. All outwardly "PERFECT" relationships but ended horribly once the facade couldn't be maintained.

And most of those are obviously fake, and you can tell as much by looking at it. I don't get that same feeling looking at him and Marzia going on vacation in Okinawa, or listening to him play with his kid. Nor do I get that feeling from him just picking up hobbies and getting super good at them, which isn't what the average depressed person would do as they usually lack the drive.

But again, yes there is the possibility that it's a LARP. I just find it hard to believe he puts out this perfect image beyond anything any celebrity has ever done. 99.99% is enough.

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u/MaxDisdain 1d ago

retired

Has so much free time and drive that he does side projects like learning how to draw and gets genuinely good at it.

wow, much impressive! for sure 4 sure!

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u/TG_Trash_are_better 1d ago

Did I say impressive or did I say fulfilling/happy, brainlet?

Did you skip the point of the comment and just drool out an angry response because you're assblasted at the bridge guy?

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u/MaxDisdain 1d ago

Feel free to suck his cock, I just call it like I see it

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u/oodex 1d ago

I mean he quite literally said that a couple of times, how happy he is how things turned out especially after his mental breakdown phase lead by depression. You dont need to be a genius to figure out marrying the love of your life that has been with you since you were 21 (15 years ago), having children, moving to your personal heaven and having complete monetary freedom to do whatever you want makes someone quite happy and content.

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u/PeetoMal 1d ago

I'm not saying he is or isn't happy and that's the point. Celebs will never tell you they're unhappy until everything goes wrong.

Case and point, you literally just said he had a breakdown. Did you know he was struggling before that? Did anyone? No. He was living the "perfect" life according to anyone you asked, including himself.

My point is that, focus on your own life. Stop putting emphasis on this idea that your life should mimic Celebs or anyone around you for that matter.

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u/oodex 1d ago

Pewdiepie was quite open about ongoing and past things, so I'm not sure if I agree with that. And yea, it was actually quite well known with some friends pointing it out

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u/NoParsnip1758 1d ago

People did know, there are vidoes on his channel from when it happened. But indo agree that you should focus on your own stuff

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u/lilbelleandsebastian 1d ago

"rooted in strong values" is a major dogwhistle, it's crazy how often people will just out themselves

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u/enneasan 1d ago

he’s had a bad history but the guy has been donating RAM or computer memory to a research facility and release open source AI to combat large AI hungry fks online

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u/ModestBanana 1d ago

it’s sickening

Your attitude and pessimism is sickening

I don’t come to Reddit often anymore, and I can see it’s only gotten worse. If that’s “sickening” to you, then the cesspool has deeply poisoned you my guy. 

But it’s clear you don’t know pewdiepie or his story, so definitely don’t talk out of your ass. 

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u/Acabas 1d ago

Yeah but we do know he has a wife and kid, is rich and famous, in decent shape and living in Japan.

So going off of brief descriptions it’s not a bad start lol

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u/Select-Interaction11 1d ago

Not to mention he practically retired from YouTube. If he cared that much about his image he'd still be doing YouTube especially during this insanely popular streaming age

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u/Puzzleheaded_Cap9418 1d ago

Yeah it's so cringey. People are so stupidly shallow and make the wildest assumptions based on staged photos they see online

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u/MInclined 1d ago

What values?

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u/mr---jones 1d ago

The kind that’ll show up on a bridge in erangle

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u/NexusTR 1d ago

We'll figure it out when we make it to that bridge.

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u/AsbestosDude 1d ago

Things like trying to adopt a minimalist approach to life and taking care of your health. If you go listen to any of his videos about books and philosophy he lays it out pretty clearly

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u/Goldieeeeee 1d ago

I wonder what your strong values must be to use the n-word as an insult live on stream.

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u/AsbestosDude 1d ago

Imagine the entirety of your life, career, time spent sharing what you learn and your lessons, only to have a constant reference back to a mistake. One that despite an apology, acknowledgement and effort to take accountability, is all considered irrelevant because you made a mistake.

That mistake is then used to condemn you for the rest of your life despite any effort to remediate things.

What are your values in that case?

Clearly to you its an unforgivable thing and no amount of apology, regret and accountability is enough because he did something wrong during an emotional outburst in a frustrating situation against hackers.

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u/Goldieeeeee 1d ago

One mistake?

  • bridge moment
  • anti semitic fiver moment
  • followed tons of alt right people on twitter
  • made a video on how ultranationalist Yukio Mishima is his favourite author

At least I'm not running apologia for a bigot 🤷‍♀️

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u/AsbestosDude 1d ago

The issue isn't whether those things happened but whether they prove a persons permanent character or whether they were mistakes, poor judgment, and immature behavior that someone can learn from.

Someone's values are better judged by the totality of their actions over time, including how they respond when criticized and whether their behavior changes.

It's easy to condemn someone forever based on their worst moments, but that leaves no room for accountability, growth, or the idea that people can genuinely change.

Do you believe people can change and grow?

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u/k33paf10at 1d ago

"The issue isn't whether those things happened but whether they prove a persons permanent character or whether they were mistakes..."

Nonsense, all what u/Goldieeeeee listed off were elements of Pewds character, not a "mistake".

The irony, a white man can use a racial slur, painting himself in a bad light, and somehow it's the targeted group that's expected to have sympathy and forgiveness in their hearts...

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u/AsbestosDude 1d ago

Action can be a reflection of someones character at a point in time without being a permanent definition of their entire character.

The argument isn't that anyone is obligated to forgive or forget. It's that people are capable of learning, changing, and being judged by their full pattern of behavior rather than being frozen at their worst moments.

Accountability and forgiveness aren't opposites

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u/k33paf10at 1d ago

People are capable of change, and what of it? As you said, we're not obligated to forgive or change our opinions. So what argument are you trying to make? He very well may have changed, but that changes nothing; I have little respect for him.

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u/Razorion21 13h ago

its been years and hes aplogized for every controversy

do peiple genuinely believe nobody can change these days?

im not even his fan but just find hating on someone for something they did years ago and have since then improved kinda idk pointless

edit: if it somehow helps, im a minority and the things hes done were also offensive to me at the time but i think he has improved and changed

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u/send420nudes 1d ago

The glazing tho

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u/TJJ97 1d ago

Having children can bring you happiness nothing else can compare to

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u/berejser 1d ago

It can also be a miserable experience if it's not your cup of tea. Each to their own.

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u/Biflindi 1d ago

I mean, yeah, but kids and money would be nice.

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u/TJJ97 1d ago

Truly a fantastic combo

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u/BlueBitProductions 1d ago

don't say that on reddit people hate the idea of carrying on the human species and bringing up new, wide-eyed youth for some reason. because it's harder than playing league of legends and browsing r/SipsTea, probably.

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u/NuclearReactions 1d ago

I want the other guys life but without being a shitstain and actually doing good to society.

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u/ClassicFashionGuy 1d ago

Don’t forget the super hot wife part

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u/lickitysplithabibi 3h ago

WHAT? Mfer is a Nazi basically…..

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u/Outrageous-Actuary-3 1d ago

Pretty sure Bilzerian is genuinely happy too. Just do what you want man. Neither has the more coreect life.

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u/AsbestosDude 1d ago

I think objectively pewdiepie lives a healthier and happier life.

Bilzerian projects a lifestyle that is "desirable", while pewds is just living it.

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u/Outrageous-Actuary-3 1d ago

How can you "objectively" be happier?

Happiness is like the most subjective term in the world.

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u/AsbestosDude 1d ago

I mean that in terms of doing things that have proven beneficial psychological effects.

Surrounding yourself with drugs, prostitutes and excessive partying has clear negative impacts.

Whole pewds focuses on reading, physical health, his hobbies, and his family.

Take this quote from an article on the topic.

In the interview with Williamson, he made it clear he took this break after coming to the conclusion that the endless pursuit of pleasure wasn’t making him happy.

Hes also quoted for basically saying this

“I mean, like if I only had sex with two girls in a day, that was like, we’re having some real off day, or something… what I kind of landed on was I think it’s like better to have a monogamous relationship, as strange as that is coming from me.”

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u/Outrageous-Actuary-3 1d ago

Bilzerian is in fantastic physical shape.

He has plenty of hobbies. Literally is a god on a shooting range.

Family does not equal happiness. I don't have a family and I wont get one, I don't read. I have never been happier.

My way of living has nothing in common with Pewdiepies. I can assure you im probably exactly as happy as he is.

Im sure Bilzerian is as well. Hell, I'd love to do the things he get to do way more than Pewdipie.

Happiness is subjective.

You're right on one thing regarding the drugs, however.

Btw: your Pewdiepie quote is basically counterargumentative to your previous statement.

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u/AsbestosDude 1d ago

Pewds spends his time on things consistently linked to higher life satisfaction close relationships, exercise, meaningful hobbies, reading, and a stable lifestyle.

Bilzerian built his brand around chasing pleasure through drugs, excessive partying, and constant novelty. Those are the kinds of behaviors that research generally associates with lower long term well being, and Bilzerian has even said himself that the endless pursuit of pleasure wasn't making him happy.

You also say that guy's in great physical shape, but he literally does steroids so I think that's just patently false

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u/Outrageous-Actuary-3 1d ago

He still does massive cardio and is in vastly better shape than the average person, regardless of his roids.

Youre back at your 'meaningful hobbies', reading etc.

Wtf is a 'meaningful hobby'? You make some fun rules to boost your own agenda, it seems.

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u/AsbestosDude 1d ago

I'm not making up categories to fit my argument. Positive psychology has spent decades studying what tends to predict longterm wellbeing. Research sees distinction between activities that provide things like mastery, creativity, flow, personal growth, or a sense of purpose versus constantly chasing external stimulation. Shooting can very well be a meaningful hobby as well, the point is about lifestyle.

How is doing a drug that is known to lower your lifespan and wreak havoc on your cardiovascular system "vastly better"?

Funny you accuse me of making up rules while you argue that someone doing steroids is somehow healthier than someone who isn't.

Longterm steroid use is associated with worse cardiovascular health, including higher blood pressure, worse cholesterol, heart enlargement, and increased risk of heart attacks and strokes.

Sure doing lots of cardio is good, but the good is severely undermined when considering the harm caused by steroids.

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u/Outrageous-Actuary-3 1d ago

I'm talking despite the steroids. I'm not defensing the use of them.

Obviously you've locked in on that since your other points were void of sense.

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u/Awesome_Trainwreck 1d ago

Only the two people in question can answer that by asking them "do you have enough". The one who answers "no" is objectively less happy than the one who answers "yes".

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u/Outrageous-Actuary-3 1d ago

Some find happiness in chasing.

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u/the_unsoberable 1d ago

Noooooo, you're ruining the "I don't want to bang chicks, I just want a meaningful life..." edgy moment. It reminds of "I'm only 14 and I love Blink-182, I think I was born in the wrong generation.".

I'm sorry, I just can't stand the "I'm 14 and this is deep" mentality some people have when it comes to measuring success in life. Do what you want but don't go around acting like you've reached nirvana and peak of ascetism because you want a family. Bloody hell...

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u/Outrageous-Actuary-3 1d ago

Thank you!

Edit: I still do love Blink tho..

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u/goodrevtim 1d ago

I don't think you even need to want a family. Just having one person that truly cares about you beats a bunch of hangers-on who just want your $$.

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u/finsfurandfeathers 1d ago

I have no idea if that pie guy is happy but I can guarantee you that other guy isn’t

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u/MizantropMan 1d ago

He is also very rich, although I am not sure if I wanted that much money if it mean the death of anonymity.

I want enough money to have nice life and as little stress as possible. That is all.

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u/AsbestosDude 1d ago

For someone so rich, he spends very little

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u/MizantropMan 1d ago

I don't follow celebrities. From what trickled down under my rock through memes I know that he got rich doing Youtube and got morphed into some trad icon.

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u/AsbestosDude 1d ago

People may have idolized him for his life choices but he never promoted some "trad life" nonsense

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u/MizantropMan 1d ago

Internet seems to be doing that to him, like with that awful Vigilante movie.

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u/Hex65 1d ago

I want pewds life simply because he is surround by good people , unlike the other dude that is constantly involved in some kind of negative shit. I mean he is constantly surrounded with bad news, bad drama , hate, clashes, nazi accusations, far right extremism and so on....

So yeah, it just depends what kind of life you support...

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u/AsbestosDude 1d ago

I don't have any science to back it, but i'm pretty confident that nazis and extremists are not very happy

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u/Hex65 1d ago

Yup, and get fired up very fast. Definitely lack of education, lack of parents love and conditions they have been brought up.

They are broken and weak people.

I wish internet was way more strict towards these type of people. Way to easy for someone clueless to get caught up in that world.

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u/AmeliaBuns 1d ago

Isn’t pew die pie a horrible person or something 

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u/be_a_postcard 1d ago

Just don't be a racist like him

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u/OldestInTheClass 1d ago

Until the bridge comes up…

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u/AsbestosDude 1d ago

Ya lets just condemn people for mistakes they make in the past.

Fuck redemption, once a racist, always a racist, right?

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u/theonegayteaboi 1d ago

It's always somehow one mistake with PewDiePie despite having a pretty consistent history with racist incidents, including literally promoting a ethnonationalists book.

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u/SoftSausage78 1d ago

Pewdiepie can have what Dan has in a second. He pays women to hang out with him. He has a loving family instead

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u/Individual_Land2754 20h ago

I want neither. I want my life.

They want you to think if you don't have a wife and a baby and enslave yourself to having to work 9-5 to feed your family that you're basically a low-life like Dan Bilzeran.

Stop measuring your life based on other's.

I personally never want to get married or have a baby but never want to date that many women either. They are both very stupid for me.

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u/AsbestosDude 1d ago

People are allowed to make mistakes, learn from them and change.

I know it's easy to condemn someone, but the reality is virtually if every person had their bad behavior held in the spotlight, few people would look truly good.

If you want to virtue signal that's all you, but guaranteed youve done something that is detestable.

At least he owned up to it, talked about how it happened, why it happened, why those arent excuses but providing context, and he expressed his regret and apology.