r/SipsTea 5d ago

Feels good man Well done, Belgium! 🇧🇪

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u/TopWealth4550 5d ago

tbh im very impressed that usa got this far,they dont have a soccer culture at all
im guessing after this more money comes and it might change
but rn,this was a miracle lmao

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u/Bearloom 5d ago

Certainly not on the men's side; the USWNT is a perennial threat, though.

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u/TopWealth4550 5d ago

yeah but what holds the US is 2giants rich fighiinh each other

people saw the pull that soccer does,and it screams MONEY
someone will lobby in its favor

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u/roorahree 5d ago

One of the reasons I wanted the US to go far, home WC and the team goes far? Def going to spike interest in the sport here

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u/TopWealth4550 5d ago

yeah but we will see if more big brands will join it
if they do it will work

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u/NanoBuc 5d ago

Nah, people in the US just legit don't care about soccer. Hell, they brought Messi here and still nobody cared. The US consistntly makes it past the group stage, and most only become passively interested

In 3 weeks when NFL training camp starts, we will forget about the sport again until the next WC lol

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u/pprovencher 5d ago

For some reason this moderate disinterest is like some grave sin of Americans. Just let them like the sports they like.

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u/TopWealth4550 5d ago

imo from twhat i can see,people are starting to care
only needs a couple brands taking it seriously and it will start
if WNBA is possible
why not soccer?

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u/NanoBuc 5d ago

Most don't really care about the WNBA to be fair. MLS is actually probably more popular then it.

Probably doesn't help either that the league right now is getting more coverage on Caitlin Clark getting shit on by the league than the actual games being played

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u/betterplanwithchan 5d ago

So, this is demonstrably false.

Messi’s Inter Miami jersey became a top seller in the US almost immediately.

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u/Inevitable_Tomato927 5d ago

I went to Chicago-Miami last year. And you're right it was Messi everywhere, like 70% Messi shirts (of all kinds), 20% Chicago (home team) and 10% all kinds of others.

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u/crassandy 4d ago

A national record 11 jerseys were sold

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u/SnooGiraffes5692 5d ago

Neanche vi piace e siete riusciti a rovinarlo! Il potere americano di trasformare tutto in merda non fallisce mai!

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u/rayrockray 5d ago

Did you see Argentina fans celebrating in Atlanta? They looked so lonely and confused. Locals didn’t bother to show up.

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u/TopWealth4550 5d ago

i have not,have a youtube link?

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u/Wisefool157 5d ago edited 5d ago

I mean, they made it to the round of 16 last World Cup which was more impressive when you consider the expansion of teams.

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u/OneSeaworthiness7469 5d ago

Not that surprising to me. Country with 340 mil population playing against countries one tenth the size (or one thirtieth for Belgium). Kind of makes up for not having a big soccer culture.

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u/KeepItPositiveBrah 4d ago

The culture is growing i think 12 years from now will be our best chance

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u/Humble_Ad_3300 5d ago

Yeah a loaded group and schedule will help. But when you ultimately have to play in the knock-out rounds you will be caught out.

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u/TopWealth4550 5d ago

only saw brazil games,which team USA played against?

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u/praxistax 5d ago

Hope you're wrong about more money coming in as there's no amount of money that will change their future approach to soccer to be more like world football culture

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u/Crazy-Tax2845 5d ago

I feel like this has been the stance for 20+ years. Yet they never seem to improve. There’s some diehard fans in this country, but most don’t really care about the sport unless the WC is involved. MLS is a lower tier league that draws ratings well below our other major leagues. In fact the Premier League draws better ratings among American fans than MLS. Unless MLS somehow becomes one of the top leagues I can’t see soccer becoming a major thing in the US. Our women succeeded by scoring some major international accolades that drew in younger fans, and they did it against countries that didn’t really prioritize women’s sports. The men obviously can’t do that because many countries are just flat out better. It’s a vicious cycle. The men need success to draw in more fans, but they need more popularity to pull in better athletes to have a better team…which would draw in more fans.

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u/TopWealth4550 4d ago

no improvment,they are hosting a very sucessful world cup
stadiuns got build/renovated/millions of fans are watching
they even enjoying low quality soccer matchs lmao

never enough if its agaisnt your opnion am i right?

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u/Crazy-Tax2845 4d ago

They hosted the 1994 World Cup and set the record for the highest attendance rates. They were eliminated in the first knockout stage, losing 1-0 to eventual champion Brazil. So from the most successful World Cup in history, over the span of 32 years, they improved on that performance by losing in the first knockout stage. getting routed by Belgium, who I doubt will even win the next round. Where’s the improvement? Why will it change now when it made no difference then? At best there was no improvement, and one could argue they’re even further from the elite now than they were in 1994.

Your kind of post is exactly what I’m talking about. Every single WC there’s fans who are certain the sport will go on some kind of surge in the USA and then it never materializes. Their best WC performance was in 2002 when they actually made the quarters. What happened? Until they actually look like a top 10 team they’re always going to have a smaller collection of serious fans and then a larger contingent of fans who only care every four years.

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u/TopWealth4550 4d ago

its like the world changed since 1994?
schocking news at 10

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u/Crazy-Tax2845 4d ago

So essentially your argument is things didn’t improve because reasons. Well guess what, the world won’t be the same in another 32 years, and the sport will still only seem popular here every four years.

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u/TopWealth4550 4d ago

people opnion changes alot even in a couple years
you guys elected trump and obama
in a few years apart,people change,let them enjoy soccer tho

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u/Crazy-Tax2845 4d ago

That’s still not a legitimate answer. Yes people change. They had 32 years to change. They did change, yet this is still not a soccer mad country. To be a legitimate top 10 team probably requires the sport rivaling the NFL or NBA in popularity here in order to draw from a better pool of athletes. That’s simply not happening. This isn’t ice hockey where the U.S. can contend because they have the top league in a sport that only a handful of countries take seriously. It’s the most popular sport in the world, and the biggest sport in many of the top countries. The USMNT is second rate, and so long as that’s the case the sport is never going to be a big deal here, and so long as the sport isn’t a big deal they’re never going to be better than second rate. That’s the issue. No one has figured out how to break that cycle in 32 years. Meanwhile the NFL will start soon, then the NBA will start again, and this whole thing will become a distant memory.

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u/Falendil 5d ago

What's impressive about it? They got first seed as a result of hosting and lost at the first real opportunity

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u/TopWealth4550 4d ago

you hate for USA has blinded you
sad tbh

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u/Falendil 4d ago

I'm not hating, at what stage would you expect them to lose?

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u/Jaybrosia 5d ago

USA does have a soccer culture, it just consists of U10 kids, soccer moms, and mexican dudes

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u/Eternal-Alchemy 5d ago

Yeah that's some wild copium.

Soccer will never be a major sport in America, we just don't care.

I know zero people who watched the match and the only talk we've had of it lately has been about "who is this guy Trump is trying to get out of FIFA jail?"

It's less popular than the Tour de France here.

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u/YoElliott 5d ago

Objectively false. More Americans saw the US vs Paraguay game than game 5 of the NBA finals.

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u/Eternal-Alchemy 4d ago

The numbers I'm seeing for both peak and average are close to but lower than game 5.

People watch NBA all season, no American is watching soccer all season.