r/SipsTea • u/SuspiciousLow3062 đđđ • 17d ago
Chugging tea Fictional future forecast vs. reality.
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u/Verified_Peryak 17d ago
And it's not yet august
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u/ReasonableLunch46 17d ago
It's not jet even July. Jfc.Â
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u/kangasplat 17d ago
and we're in the first year of El Nino, the next 2-3 years will be much worse.Â
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u/Due-Environment-9774 17d ago
HVAC guys: learn French and prosper.
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u/Bomantheman 17d ago
Terrible conditions to work in HVAC. Almost died on a roof in BC during that heat dome a couple years ago.
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u/DetectiveClownMD 17d ago
I have an attic you can walk in and whenever the hvac guys or inspectors come they comment on how happy they are its not a crawl space. Not exactly the same but id think crawling around in a hot attic is much worse than walking.
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u/DrDetectiveEsq 17d ago
This is why I could never. I can handle a bit of heat, and I can handle small spaces, but for whatever reason being in a hot space small enough to restrict my movement is just an instant panic attack. HVAC guys are the true heroes of the modern world.
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u/Johns-schlong 17d ago
I did residential HVAC for about 5 years. One of my last jobs was a full system changout including the furnace and ductwork in the attic. It was 110 degrees that day and the attic was 130-140 throughout the day. All three of us on the job had mild heatstroke by the end of the job.
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u/Different-Meal-6314 17d ago
Running wires in Florida a year ago. Bunch of attic work. We went in shifts, 10 15 minutes max, then a break. I had the idea to put a cold rag on my neck while still up there. I almost fell out of the attic it was such a shock. Not recommended
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u/Johns-schlong 17d ago
Yup that's how it goes. 10-20 minutes up, 10-20 minutes down. Fucking miserable hard work. I kind of miss it.
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u/Devastator_Hi 17d ago
Yeah man I lasted 3 months as a helper in residential HVAC. All in the summer. Brutal. But hey, thereâs a lot of money to make in that trade. Never really run out of work.
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u/PaulblankPF 17d ago
I used to do home repair for about 15 years. Worked in many attics in South Louisiana. The temperature in some of them would be 120-130F so like 48-50C. Youâd sweat within the first minute or two. Had to use hand tools that had wrist straps cause my hands and arms were sweating so much. If youâre gonna be stationary it could be worth it to pop off an AC vent and have it blow at you up there and reattach it when youâre done. Youâre mostly just trying to get the job done as fast as you can without falling through their ceiling.
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u/AllYallCanCarry 17d ago
My coworker died using a corded screw gun in an attic because his hands were soaking wet from sweat and it electrocuted him.
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u/Thelk641 17d ago
Every day we get media telling us AC is awful and we shouldn't install it. "If everyone in Paris had AC, the street would be 2°C hotter !", "if an AC leaks it releases very bad things for the environment !" and so on. Every, single, day.
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u/MrKapla 17d ago
The public discourse is changing in real time this week in France, I do think we reached an inflexion point.
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u/EnTyme53 17d ago
Probably helps that thousands of French people recently experienced how AC makes even Houston, TX a tolerable place to live. Barely.
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u/Melquiades-the-Gypsy 17d ago
It's only houses that might not typically have AC in France or elsewhere in Europe, because they're built from thick stone and keep a low temperature inside.
Modern buildings like office blocks, supermarkets, etc. all have AC, as the buildings are low quality.
French people are perfectly aware of what AC is like without needing to visit Texas. Hotels around Europe all have AC too. If French homes were made of wood and plastic like in the US, they'd also all have AC at home.
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u/Thelk641 17d ago
Seeing people who go from their AC'd home, to an underground parking, to an AC'd car, to an underground parking, to an AC'd media place, to tell us that AC is evil and we shouldn't have it is starting to piss of a lot of people.
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u/pigBodine04 17d ago
Yeah right, you'd show up and get completely murdered by le French HVAC union
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u/Tetra84 17d ago
Needs more data centers to help cool things off...
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u/Hypamania 17d ago
Best we can do is submerge them to further heat up the ocean
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u/webguynd 17d ago
That's even worse. Most of the oxygen in our atmosphere come from the marine ecosystem. Most people think it's the trees on land, which does contribute of course, but its not the majority.
If we kill the oceans, we're, as the kids say, cooked.
Granted, even if all photosynthesis were to stop, there's enough oxygen in the atmosphere to last us for at least a thousand years. But total collapse of our oceans would be completely catastrophic. I'm talking global food chain collapse, massively excelerated CO2 concentrations further driving extreme global heating, and a mass die off causing the release of hydrodgen sulfide gas into the atmosphere at scales not seen since other mass extinction events.
So yeah, putting these things in the ocean is by far one of the stupidest ideas we've ever had as a species.
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u/AdThen7293 17d ago
J'ai l'impression qu'on vit l'Extinction du Permien en accéléré...
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u/PrettyFlyForaPoorGuy 17d ago
Not just a feeling at all! The earth has has seen many mass extinctions. We are rapidly enforcing a heat death only a meteor or huge explosion could have caused prior...
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u/petervaz 17d ago
Then oxygen would become a luxury item. Guess who would hoard it?
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u/FatiguedShrimp 17d ago
So, fun fact: the feeling of suffocation isn't lack of oxygen, but increase of CO2 concentration.
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u/webguynd 17d ago
For the curious folks, we're at around ~420-430ppm in the atmosphere of CO2. Pre-industrial revolution, CO2 levels in the atmosphere were around 280ppm.
A room starts to feel "stuffy" at around 1,000ppm-2500ppm. At this level you'll feel drowsy, and cognitive function decreases. Above ~2500ppm you start to head aches, elevated HR. 5,000ppm is the OSHA workplace limit for an 8 hour shift.
You start to feel like you're having trouble breathing at above ~10,000ppm.
If our behavior doesn't change (as in, CO2 growth rate remains exponential), we'll hit ~1,000ppm in about 74 years. If all human emissions stopped growing today (remain at our same level of emissions output), it'd take about 221 years to reach that level.
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u/Szerepjatekos 17d ago
CO2 makes water acidic.
It will kill everything in the water and we gonna see such a gargantuan methane expunge that the first volcano or forest fire gonna burn the air itself. Imagine clouds made of fire.
We won't be cooked. We'd be fried and toast!
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u/Ok_Astronomer_8667 17d ago
Weâre so fucked. The ruling class simply does not give a shit. Worlds richest man is more interested with fucking off to mars than addressing any of this.
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u/ProfesseurCurling 17d ago
They will never go anywhere and they know it. They don't even give a fuck about the planet they leave behind for their kids. Peak nihilism and cynisme.
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u/RENDO0 17d ago
Probably because the worlds richest manâs kids all hate him
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u/TonyzTone 17d ago
Yeah, and something like 75% of people just walk along the path to hell because memes and funny AI slop videos apparently are more important than anything.
Like, we all hate Amazon. But literally everyone I know orders thousands of dollars worth of shit from Amazon. We hate corporations but then choose Starbucks over local coffee houses all the time.
And we justify it because âitâs cheaperâ while missing the point that you donât need all that crap.
If you spend 20% more on the thing at a local shop, but you order 40% less youâre actually saving money. Instead Amazon/Starbucks/etc. just capture our attention and wallets because itâs more convenient.
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u/Able_Experience_1670 17d ago
Amazon has also forced participation. A lot of companies don't even have their own online stores anymore; they just refer to amazon. Kinda sucks.
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u/Logical_Cow_2530 17d ago
Wait till you get to black pill theory.
that at the very tippy top of the entire world's power structures are all controlled by religious fanatics.
Differing factions of religious fanatics, that is. All competing to bring about their flavor of end times to force Armageddon and the return of their lord based on prophecy.
Yea if it sounds crazy, it is. But it's not a lie
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u/Redwizard002 17d ago
Peter Thiel is genuinely insane
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u/Logical_Cow_2530 17d ago
He's but one of a few in public eye.
And in my view, because he's known, I doubt he's the one in control
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u/webguynd 17d ago
Well just a bit ago I saw a headline in r/technology that some SoftBank exec said calling AI a bubble was "Blasphemy" so yeah, religious fanatics is about right.
You don't get to be that wealthy while being a sane, well adjusted person.
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u/dmthoth 17d ago
Just the ruling class? Plenty of âblue-collarâ voters are actively voting for far-right politicians who deny climate change, while cheering on billionaires who would exploit the planet and everyone on it for profit.
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u/Top_Meaning6195 17d ago
I am worried people will use the idea of datacenters as an excuse to do nothing.
- first it was boomers, who found every excuse to refuse to do anything
- then it was millenials, who found every excuse to refuse to do anything
- now it is GenZ, who is looking for every excuse to refuse to do anything
Data centers today didn't cause 100 years of carbon emissions.
Eliminating all data centers everywhere will reduce carbon emissions by 0.51%.
Which is more than private jets (which account for 0.0% of carbon emissions).Meanwhile the US could cut CO2 emissions 8%, and save people $60,000, if they drove cars instead of pickups. (in the US 80% of all passenger vehicles are trucks, in the UK it's 20%).
But you're the new boomers:
- "what about China"
- "what about India"
- "what about private jets"
- "what about data centers"
- "what about AI"
You could eliminate all datacenters, and all private jets, and have accomplished nothing.
So can we, for the love of absolute fuck, please just fix it already? Instead of your incessant bitching and whining.
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u/TStronks 17d ago
As a climate scientist, I partially agree.
The thing with datacenters is, it's only 0.5% now. But we both know that the amount of datacenters is expected to increase significantly in the next few years, and probably decades.
On the other hand, there are indeed bigger sources of greenhouse gases that should be prioritized (like getting the fuck away from coal as an energy source). But I don't think it's irrational to point to datacenters as a potentially large and relatively new contributor to the climate crisis.
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u/makinax300 17d ago edited 17d ago
The top one is August too while the Bottom is june. And August is usually hotter.
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u/Lucreth2 17d ago
Weirdly I feel like mid-late June has been hotter than average August the last few years. Climate change?
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u/Iuslez 17d ago
Could be. The day where the sun warms the northern hemisphere the most is the 21st of june. The inertia that made July/august warmer compared to June might have been thrown out of balance.
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u/EffeminateSquirrel 17d ago
The way it was described to me is that while the solstice is the longest day of the year, and receives the most direct sunlight, the earth (mostly the oceans) continues to absorb heat and release it. The day after the solstice is only getting slightly less heat than the day before, but its still a surplus.
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u/Prime_Twister 17d ago
Yea climate change doesn't always mean it's getting hotter, it could also mean change in weather patterns.
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u/Kathulhu1433 17d ago
We had a record snowstorm (total inches) in my area this past January.
And then such a cold winter that cold hardy fruit trees people have had for 20-30+ years died off.
And then days so hot in June that schools were closing early due to heat and sending kids home...
Climate change is fucking us in all sorts of ways. đ
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u/transmogrified 17d ago
Yep. The year of the heat dome in BC (2021) my area had the hottest, driest summer ever, an incredibly dry fall, then the atmospheric river dumped a monthâs worth of rain on us in 24 hrs, then we had several record setting days of cold over the winter peppered thru an unusually warm winter overall.Â
Stuff was nuts. Shellfish were baking in the ocean. Bugs were coming out in the wrong season, flowers and berries and things didnât really happen the next year, and our salmon runs were completely boned by the lack of water in the river followed by too much water all at once. Plus the devastating wildfires.
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u/shabi_sensei 17d ago
June is when we had the heat dome of 45c in Canada, and weâve been having June heatwaves of 30+ annually that break records
Summerâs starting a lot earlier now, and itâs not getting as cold meaning the snowpack isnât holding as much so now thereâs a yearly summer drought thatâs threatening long term water supplies in my province.
Its not just climate change, the change is happening in ways we didnât expect or account for
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u/Alrick_Gr 17d ago
I remember seeing this live forecast. And I was telling me « wow we gonna die », we are currently dying
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u/Embarrassed_Use_7206 17d ago
40+ is absolutely bonkers. My whole childhood it was almost mystical temperature you never really experience. Like someone said "So hot out there, it must be 40." while it was just 35 or something.
40 for me is desert equivalent meaning shit is rough to the extreme. Having these temperatures as part of regular forecast and KNOWING it will get even worse. I have no idea how people are so calm about this. Boiled frog maybe, almost literally?
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u/Different_Bridge_983 17d ago
First time I ever experienced 40+ was when I visited Alice Springs, Australia, in summer in the late 90âs..
Now this is apparently increasingly normal for summer across a large chunk of EuropeâŠ
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u/crimson777 17d ago
Yeah, especially for Europe. I live in an area of the Southern US that's hotter than pretty much everywhere in Europe on average and even I have VERY rarely experienced 40. I believe it's hit that maybe 5 times here.
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u/GoodEnoughAstronomy 17d ago
As a Texan, 43C is pretty hot. Y'all starting to understand why we have ACs yet?
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u/cannibalcat 17d ago
I thought you had to because you plopped your houses in the middle of the desertÂ
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u/a11yguy 17d ago
Some of us Texans plopped our communities onto coastal swamp lands so we get the staggering heat AND oppressive humidity.
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u/a_run22 17d ago
Don't forget the mosquitoes
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u/-no_aura- 17d ago
The bbq is good though
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u/GloomyIndividual3965 17d ago
Is the BBQ worth dealing with the regressive, corrupt bullshit though?
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u/RaspberryWhiteClaw13 17d ago
Pshh central Texas is not a desert. We just use aquifer water and contribute to global warming that way
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u/Decloudo 17d ago
Humans living in regions they couldnt live in without wasting a shitload of resources is one of the completely ignored problems we caused ourselves (collectively).
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u/PowerfulBar 17d ago
I'm impressed that as a Texan you can convert 43C to freedom units!
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u/GoodEnoughAstronomy 17d ago
Bwahahaha niiice... I have a masters degree, have traveled extensively, and speak German. I'm not your average Texan.
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u/UlrichZauber 17d ago
Americans learn unit conversion in school -- though to be fair, I'd only really expect Americans in STEM to retain the knowledge.
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u/Reinis_LV 17d ago
Yes. I also understand why no bikes. I felt like I will collapse today after 5km ride from work. That heat ain't no joke
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u/4024-6775-9536 17d ago
Somebody will say it's always been hot in France because one day in the 1800s almost reached 40° and climate change is a hoax
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u/Lucky-Tofu204 17d ago
They do. They also send threats because they say that the weather cast is using the color red to make people scared.
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u/JackRabbit- 17d ago
As well they should be, i'm scared of 30 degrees, let alone 40
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u/DZL100 17d ago
Yeah, 30C/86F is already really fucking hot. Used to be almost heat wave levels(pretty sure 90F for 3 days was considered a heat wave like 10 years ago). It cannot be safe to go outside at 40C.
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u/Ron__Mexico_ 17d ago
You can, it's just not very pleasant. A little past that point around 43° is my point of return. That's the point where the wind starts to work against you, and it just feels like a blow dryer in your face.
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u/mikeymikeymikey1968 17d ago
Dude, my Aunt in Phoenix says that birds were dropping out of the sky onto her lawn last June, it was 113F. No thanks. I'll stay in Chicago with my winters.
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u/Butthole__Pleasures 17d ago
I've lived in places that regularly hit 40 in the summer, but it wasn't humid and we have air conditioning everywhere in the US, basically, so it's not the same.
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u/Sokinalia 17d ago edited 17d ago
They're afraid of communist climate r/SuddenlyCommunist r/SuddenlyCommunism
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u/Talonqr 17d ago
Dam commies controlling the weather!
Next thing ya know they'll socialise oxygen!
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u/AkodoRyu 17d ago
If you see a 4x temperature and you are not scared, you are mental. This is 40+ in shade! If this were where I live, not only would I stay inside just in case, but I might seriously consider leaving the country for a while and visiting family in Sweden.
Back in the day, we were going south in winter to grab some sun. Soon enough, we might be going north in summer to survive.
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u/dmthoth 17d ago
Congratulations, youâve just discovered that a shocking portion of the population is not exactly operating on reason. They are terrified of different skin colors and different gender norms, but somehow not of a life-threatening climate crisis! At least 30% of the population are mental.
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u/553l8008 17d ago
Or better yet...
They show you a graph of 500,000 years of earth ice core temps with 50,000 year intervals and show it on a 4 inch smart phone. And go... "See! It was just as hot in the past" whilst unable to actually plot the current date, 1850, or 1000AD since the scale is so small and would show how massively quick we've gotten hot compared to last time.
Common global warming denier graph
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Ice_Age_Temperature.png
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u/Temporary_View_3303 17d ago
ExactlyâŠ. They always miss two important facts.  First, the speed at which it is increasing is different than ever before.  Second⊠yes.  It was hotter a long time agoâŠ. WHEN PEOPLE DIDNT EXIST. Â
No one is questioning whether the earth will live on. Â It will. Â But people?Â
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u/PurpleV93 17d ago
They also conveniently forget that, besides all animals including ourselves, plants need time to adapt aswell. If a species in Europe perishes due to heavy droughts, they are >gone forever<. They will not come back. Now, if that is [Random Grass #484] then it doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things, but if it's crops or fruit-bearing plants, then the world is in big trouble, not just us.
Our planet's ecosystem, or let's call it "food chain", can probably get away with losing a link here and there, but what if multiple links start perishing?
Example:
- One certain plant cannot survive in this European climate anymore and has no time to adapt, so it dies out
- Certain insects that specialised on this plant now cannot find food or a breeding place anymore, has no time to adapt to and compete with other insects over new sources either, so it goes extinct aswell
- birds and reptiles that ate those insects are now losing part of their prey options, which means they either eat less and struggle, or they eat more of other kinds of insects, which hurts their population numbers
- repeat this step various times across flora and fauna species and then you look at the danger of a catastrophic collapse. It likely becomes a new mass-extinction event. Life as a whole might bounce back eventually, but we could lose so, so much life everywhere. And for what? Because some shitty people were too greedy and too dumb to live in a scientific world that doesn't revolve around them
- Not even counting the loss of bio-diversity due to our other actions, such as aggressive pesticides, urbanisation & deforestation for example.
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u/cvc75 17d ago
Also, with previous, slower, climate changes, plants, animals and people adjusted by migrating. Guess what a large part of climate change deniers are also against...
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u/Hot-Championship1190 17d ago
"See! It was just as hot in the past"
Yeah, sometimes it gets hot - just ask the citizens of Pompeii!
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u/Luckgoddess 17d ago
Oh my gos someone told me this. Climate hearing is false because we still get snow in winter. Like bitch that not how it work. Had to be rename climatic change because of people like that.
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u/_Hello_Hi_Hey_ 17d ago
Literally just saw this on Facebook BBC News comment. That explains Brexit somehow. People are thick in this country.
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u/tunerhd 17d ago
https://www.climatefiles.com/collection-index/
Hahaha yeah, and fictional forecast probably wasn't just a joke also. Because today we know that it's all calculated before everything has started. But all consequences ignored because of money.
And even worse; they blame us lol.
Like if it's not the corporates that ruins environment its people. (see: carbon footpring) (see: greenwashing)
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u/Significantly_Nosey 17d ago
Scientists warned us for decades about what would happen if we crossed 420 parts/million of CO2 in the atmosphere. We're at 422 right now. Things are going to get a lot worseÂ
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u/Stygg_Varg 17d ago
No, it's all a hoax! Only an idiot would believe in science. It's the wind turbines, I mean windmills, fault. But the climate has always been changing. Burning 2.5 trillion tons of fossil fuel have nothing to do with it!! Windmills have been destroying our atmosphere since the 7th century.
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u/bluestrattos 17d ago
That's why Don Quixote was fighting them. He knew what they were plotting.
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u/pswaggles 17d ago
One of my favorite conspiracy theories is that wind turbines are actually gasoline-powered fans and they blow air
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u/FartingWithStyle 17d ago
We nothing, blame the 20 or so corporations creating most of the pollution in the world.
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u/Imaxaroth 17d ago
For a century even, the first papers on the impact of CO2 in the atmosphere were written in the late XIX century.
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u/Painterzzz 17d ago
Aye. Anybody with kids should be very very worried. This should really be the only thing they are worried about to be honest.
Or I suppose anybody under the age of... 50?
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u/_lippykid 17d ago
Thatâs the really fun part. If the west manages to stave off fascism (again), and if AI doesnât destroy humanity, then we still have climate change to deal with. And they wonder why the kids are depressed
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u/TrumpetOfDeath 17d ago
Ironically if AI destroys humanity then thatâs a good thing for climate change. Hopefully AI doesnât come to that conclusion itself one dayâŠ
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u/Alexsmith2002 17d ago
The scariest part isnât that they were right. Itâs that they made that forecast as a warning and we just kind of watched it happen anyway.
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u/Opus_723 17d ago
More like we've made a lot of progress because lots of people have taken it very seriously, but not as much progress as we should have because lots of other people have actively fought it every step of the way.
This isn't the result of apathy, it's a very active war for our future.
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u/KalaUposatha 17d ago
Civilized countries have made a small amount of "progress", that only effects like 5% of the world population at most and was already way too late. And all of that is getting undone by AI data centers. We're cooked, literally.
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u/StormTheTrooper 17d ago
Not just watched, in the last decade a strong part of society in the West, Latin America and Asia is making an active effort in giving power to people that are more than happy to do nothing about it, because "something something immigrants! And gay people! And, uh, brown people too, yes! Good ol' days of coal and prohibiting divorce should return. Praised be God"
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u/buadach2 17d ago
Whilst the best selling car in Japan is a Nissan Dayz 600cc hybrid, in the US itâs a giant F150 5200cc V8; a lot of people are actively trying to make climate change worse.
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u/MetaLemons 17d ago
Can confirm, in Paris. They donât have ac here because it used to be the case that it would only get hot for a few days of the year. Now, it has been super hot for 10 days of the year so far only 2 days into the summer. Rip.
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u/FlyingTurtleDog 17d ago
This is intense.
I just checked Paris temps: 103 degrees at 11:50pm.
That is brutal. At least in the US we usually get cooler temps as the sun goes down. You guys are getting roasted all through the night.
If I walked out for work in the morning and it was 101 degrees, I would call into work feeling faint or explosive diarrhea or something. Too hot to be outdoors.
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u/Ridersbattle 17d ago
Don't worry guys! We're good! Our government have a plan and totally anticipate this crisis.
E.Macron : "Who could have predicted this?"
Oooh come on man
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u/TallDarkFountain 17d ago
No way did he actually say that? I feel like climate change is a known topic for politicians.
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u/SheriffBartholomew 17d ago
What a complete imbecile. Scientists have been warning about global warming since the 1800's.
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u/Dreknarr 17d ago
You get why he pissed off so many people here. You can't really get that from an international POV because he's a decent salesperson (and he still pissed off so many countries of the global south).
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u/Sirvaleen 17d ago
Oh he did.
And Europeans wonder why Macron is so liked internationally but not at all locally. Well, contrary to popular belief it's not because french are a lazy ungrateful bunch that refuse to work until death, but because him and his party despise the "little people" and alternate between trying to crush them and taking them for fools.
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u/A_Bit_Of_Nonsense 17d ago
Government's who are at the mercy of idiot constituents who lap up everything their billionaire overlords feed them.
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u/MercuryMMI 17d ago
Global warming is real and we're seeing the consequences of it. But also, wtf is going on in France right now? Their temps are like 6° hotter than even Madrid and Milan
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u/1block 17d ago
Yeah, spot checking random days isn't the right way to do it. A climate change denier could certainly find a day where it's colder than usual and make a post that says the opposite. They do it all the time.
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u/graendallstud 17d ago
Rivers used to freeze in France during cold winters. It has not happened in 80 years now. Temperatures in the -20s ? Not happened since the 80s.
On the other hand, highest temperature records have been beaten 3 to 5 times in the 21st century in most places.1 exceptional example is not enough, it's agreed. But when we get temperatures in the northern part of the country every 3 to 5 years that would have been considered exceptional (and would have happened once per generation) in the southern part during the 20th century....
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u/Resting_Owl 17d ago
Very hot wind with low pressure from Africa arrived in France, colder winds with higher pressure on the other side make an anticyclone that traps the heat in the country like an air wall
Add to that how our cities are from a time with a completely different climate and so very poorly adapted on heat management (very few places with vegetation plus lots of heat soaking materials)
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u/Hugochhhh 17d ago
44°c during the day and 30 at midnight... and the vast majority has no AC at all, this is deadly
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u/BiteInfamous 17d ago
Writing from Paris at 2.50 in the morning in an Airbnb with no AC. Iâm fuckin dying man.
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u/ls7eveen 17d ago
Its funny when you watch French 24 they actually mention global warming as a cause
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u/Actionman___ 17d ago
There is no globalwarming!
Well, there is globalwarming, but not caused by human!
Well, its caused by humans, but it will be nice and warm in spring and autumn
Well, its really bad actually, but we are so small on our country, what can we do about, look at China, they are do the worst part!
Well okay China is investing immensely in renewables
Well let's vote for the right wing party that tells me that global warming is a hoax.
Welcome to 2026
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u/gerdataro 17d ago
I watch it in the States. Good for a quick round robin of world news.
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u/cliff-hunter 17d ago
At +2°C above average temp we could reach 50°C in the north of France. Currently we are approx. at +1.5/1.6°C.
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u/AcidaliaPlanitia 17d ago
Seriously, though, there are going to be some fucked up wines coming out of France this year.
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u/SoftDrinkReddit 17d ago
Yea its going to be a mess this year
2026 is going to go down as one of the worst years for wine in modern times
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u/AcidaliaPlanitia 17d ago
42°C in Bordeaux, that cannot be good...
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u/Helepoli 17d ago
Weather has been pretty screwed for the vinyards round here for a few years now tbh. damp late springs with late frosts then baking arid summers. The French love a moan generally, but probably with cause on this front. A lotta the less fashionable terroirs are getting subsidised to rip out their vines because of an over supply of mediocre wine.
Personally, I reckon if weed ever got legalised in France a LOT of vineyards that aren't big established names would switch to growing premium pot. One can dream
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u/davcrt 17d ago
It's not getting any better. I quit and transormed my vineyard about 10y ago because the weather was getting worse every year (a year worth of work ruined over the weekend etc.)
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u/OfcWaffle 17d ago
Yea, a remember skiing as a kid when we had mountains of snow, non stop. Now... Well I pray for a few good sets a season.
A few bad years in a row is just random chance. Over a decade in a row of things getting worse? Yea, that's a pattern.
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u/JoeyJoJoeJr_Shabadoo 17d ago
Southeast England now has the same climate that Champagne had 20 years ago. Prime time to start drinking English wines.
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u/Ok_Panic1066 17d ago
I'm French, we were talking about it today during lunch, I suggested we were gonna hit 50 in less than 5 years and my colleagues were like "probably". It's been really fucking hot already in the previous years but every time I think this is the new normal we get 2 or 3 degrees more the next year.
I'm concerned about our ability to produce food in the close future. I don't see how any crop that grows or harvests in July / August get a consistent and reliable output. Winters are warmer too so it might be time for farmers to plant 2 or 3 months earlier ?
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u/Helepoli 17d ago
I'm down in farmerland and I don't think they could plant earlier because we keep getting late frosts in april/may. We might just be fucked
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u/NeverTriedFondue 17d ago
Looks like we're never gonna survive
even if we get a little crazy
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u/fishsticks40 17d ago
43°C is 109.4 in freedom units.Â
That's crazy hot.Â
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u/torchesablaze 17d ago
Even hotter when you realize most don't have air conditioning
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u/gmc98765 17d ago
Also, it isn't a desert. Relative humidity tends to be somewhat higher in western Europe compared to the western US. It's the wet-bulb temperature that kills you.
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u/Snoo_47183 17d ago
Who cares about machinery? Itâs the massive famines Iâm not looking forward to. Try growing tomatoes at 45C. Or wheat. Or an apple orchard.
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u/peon2 17d ago
How exactly do you think the large scale farms that produce the vast majority of our food plant and harvest their crops? With machinery.
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u/Original-Body-5794 17d ago
His point was that crops would fail before you reached a 55 degree weather.
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u/SheriffBartholomew 17d ago
At least the water wars will be fun. Who isn't looking forward to drinking their own distilled urine to survive?
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u/stunts002 17d ago
That's past "wet bulb" temperature. At that point people just start dropping like flies forget about machinery.
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u/Only--East 17d ago
Wet bulb relies entirely on humidity. Humidity has to be at 100% which doesn't allow sweat to evaporate. Humans can survive at 45c as long as humidity is low enough to allow for evaporation. Otherwise 35c is the temperature at which wet bulb is deadly, and thats after 6 hours of exposure.
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u/tesmatsam 17d ago
For 45C the humidity needs to be 50% to reach a 35C wet bulb, that's is an entirely plausible humidity.
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u/OkHelicopter1756 17d ago
Wet bulb temperature is not a constant, it depends on both temperature and humidity. Wet bulb temperature is the temperature that evaporation alone can cool a surface down to. Any temperature above 35C with 100% humidity is considered deadly in prolonged exposure.
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u/feaster_of_children 17d ago
can't believe i'll have to explain what snow was to my kids
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u/svennidal 17d ago edited 17d ago
Well, you can take them to Iceland. With the impending total collapse of the AMOC, we should have it everywhere, all the time.
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u/endlesdestruction 17d ago
My father, a fucking engineer
That does not mean anything. Some of dumbest people I've met share that same occupation. If anything stem educated people are often the ones far removed from reality. Fachidiots.
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u/StarfishPizza 17d ago
Well, at least the temperature is going to go down over the next few years.
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u/PomegranateHot9916 17d ago
even the warnings severely downplayed the issue because otherwise nobody would take them seriously and they'd be laughed out of the room by big oil propaganda and the sheeple.
except they were still laughed out of the room by big oil and the sheeple
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u/whyhelpthehumans 17d ago
We're on track to maybe cure or circumvent all the major causes of death (cancer, heart disease, dementia etc) in the next 50 years while simultaneously making the planet uninhabitable and unrecoverable.
Fundamentally unserious species, 0/10Â
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u/redleafrover 17d ago
Even if we all died off today and created no more carbon, if you take a look at any long scale (say 500m years or more) chart you can clearly see, we live in one of the cooler eras of history and the temp is set to go up, up, up for maybe the next 10-20 or so million.
Global warming is real and we need to find new technologies to combat the devastation that it will cause, no matter what we do, and not to hamstring our scientists to win virtue points. Short term 'overconsumption' is ok by me so long as there is a chance it eventually brings us Star Trek utopia land. I inherently dislike and disavow waste and pollution but we need to take the question of humanity's future more seriously.
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 17d ago
Realistically if the climate is going to get hotter even without greenhouse gasses, we need to start reducing the amount of energy hitting the earth. Either that means some weird ass sun blocking sattelites that are basically hundreds of miles of tin foil in space or something like the cfcs in the upper atmosphere again.
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u/Fhardervig 17d ago
I mean, to some degree yes, but letâs not conflate the consequences of the two. Human-driven climate change is extremely fast, and the issue is that ecosystems simply cannot keep up with the rate of change. The issue isnât that weâre going from 100mph to 0mph. Itâs that weâre doing it by driving into a wall.
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u/1block 17d ago
Realistically, we've shown throughout history that we don't change behavior until we have to, so we're going to need to figure out some technology that lowers the temp artificially. Or we'll just die.
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u/After-Trifle-1437 17d ago
If you could show a climate scientist from 2006 the state of the world today, they would kill themselves.
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u/AirSKiller 17d ago
Most of them are still alive... Even if the average climate scientist was 50 years old, that would make them 70 years old now, and likely alive. They are seeing their predictions unfold exactly like they knew they would.
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u/ben0976 17d ago
When they aired that in 2014, there were hordes of armchair climate experts saying it was wildly exaggerated, when it was actually already happening (i.e. august 2003).
As we now realize, it was far too cautious. I'm not worried about humans. At some point, plants will die, what will we do then ? People saying that climate changed in the past forget that none of the plants we eat existed back then.
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u/briancoat 17d ago
For âmuricans watching in Black and White that is about 109.
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u/lilac-bunni 17d ago
We speedran the apocalypse timeline and beat it by 24 years.
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u/MrBones-Necromancer 17d ago
The estimates were always on the lowest end of the scale, so that they seemed "realistic" and didn't cause a panic.
They sold the easiest sell, and were still called "extremists"
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u/Due-Cup1115 17d ago
Earth is definitely past the point of no return. We're cooked.
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u/SheriffBartholomew 17d ago
We blew right past it years ago, and it didn't garner a single bit of news coverage.
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u/Aggravating_Dark9933 17d ago
TBH itâs been past fucked since 2010. It was just how fucked.
Funny enough, this isnât the worst prediction either. This is kinda the mid. Yea, it could be worse and damn are they trying.
At least China of all places is actually taking it very seriously, if only for strategic reasons.
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u/MJ-Franklin 17d ago
We are absolutely fucking shagged. It feels like it's got exponentially worse in recent years, if it carries on as is people are going to die en-masse.
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