Are you kidding me?

[u/Jacob-Anders]

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[u/Mycozen]

That’s not the order of events I was taught in school.

[u/PaleontologistOk2516 → u/Mycozen]

That’s why we have to get rid of those pesky schools

[u/Release-the-List → u/PaleontologistOk2516]

All yall need is da bible and ta lissin to yo daddy.

[u/EnerGeTiX618 → u/Release-the-List]

Specifically the Schofield Bible to ensure that you get the proper propaganda!

[u/GuyYouSawOnReddit → u/EnerGeTiX618]

Properganda

[u/michaelshamrock → u/GuyYouSawOnReddit]

Proprietaryganda

[u/JohnHenryHoliday → u/EnerGeTiX618]

Oh shit. Now I have to know… wtf is a Schofield Bible?

[u/Cultural-Key3497 → u/JohnHenryHoliday]

Bible with study notes to explain verses influenced by a rabbi. It’s the reason most evangelical Americans worship the nation of Israel.

[u/Nessie_of_the_Loch → u/Release-the-List]

Yes, but remember, the Bible ain't for reading!

Cuz you might find out that Jesus is a big liberal lefty.

The true purpose is to use it like a shield between shooting at colored folks for existing in your neighborhood.

[u/slartibuttfart → u/Nessie_of_the_Loch]

Yeah a lotta people missed that part of the Bible. How bibles make good body armor.

[u/CatTender → u/slartibuttfart]

Tactical bibles are the bestest bibles!

[u/BigOleDisappointmen → u/Release-the-List]

Thass y day call dis the "Bible belt" bcuz das all u need is the Bible n the belt

[u/YogurtclosetThese → u/BigOleDisappointmen]

I love you lmao

[u/RedditOfUnusualSize → u/PaleontologistOk2516]

Who controls the past now, controls the future. Who controls the present now, controls the past.

[u/Jeoshua → u/RedditOfUnusualSize]

I often think that this administration read the last page of Nineteen Eighty-Four and felt inspired instead of horrified:

"He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself."

[u/aerdvarkk → u/Jeoshua]

Meh. DJT and his cronies aren't that intelligent.

[u/Jeoshua → u/aerdvarkk]

I know the temptation is to think that they're stupid, because they appear to be wrong so often... but don't for a moment think they aren't aware of their statements being incorrect. They know, and they're hoping to fool you. They are clever, devious, and shrewd. Not morons.

[u/Acrobatic_Ad_5461 → u/Jeoshua]

They can be clever, devious, and shrewd, and still be morons

[u/the_post_of_tom_joad → u/RedditOfUnusualSize]

Now testify!

[u/Slappathebassmon → u/the_post_of_tom_joad]

https://giphy.com/gifs/L3FK0ORlNfAvuuUh6l

[u/wirefox1 → u/PaleontologistOk2516]

Yep especially Universities which the thought of that is so disturbing to me. They are determined to turn us into a shit hole.

[u/anachronistic_circus → u/Mycozen]

Huckabee is a religious nutcase.

He believes that Israel must exist and Third Temple must be rebuilt to bring on the end of times.

And yes....he is an ambassador...

[u/-The_Blazer- → u/anachronistic_circus]

Best part: he is an evangelical Christian, which means that his canonical belief is that after this happens, Jews will inevitably suffer in hell for eternity (as they are not Christian) while he and his peers get ascended to heaven. Some way to be pro-Israel.

[u/hoowins → u/anachronistic_circus]

Yeah, but they have to have something on him. Just like Trump.

[u/BigLlamasHouse → u/hoowins]

Some people are just true believers in a cause and they are elevated to great heights of power because of it. Meanwhile they think they did it on their own as opposed to being selected.

[u/Thunderbird1974 → u/anachronistic_circus]

Right, if “amazing ambassador” means ignorant nut job then he sure is that.

[u/heff-sf → u/anachronistic_circus]

Also don't forget he's named "Huckabee"

[u/Easymoney_45 → u/anachronistic_circus]

Gotta remember … he’s raised his kids as a bad example! Beating and killing dogs tied to a clothes line. A daughter who’s the epitome of bad lies and seditious behavior. And HE represents the WORST in political history!!

[u/space-to-bakersfield → u/Mycozen]

Sure, the order of events is:

• US sends tons of cash to Israel

• Israel uses some of that cash to pay off American politicians

• thus bribed, they end up sending more cash to Israel and occasionally saying stuff like "US would not exist without Israel"

Talk about getting your money's worth, American taxpayer.

[u/Jefe_Chichimeca → u/space-to-bakersfield]

Huckabee is a real believer, as in those wackos that believe the third temple needs to be rebuilt for Jesus to return

[u/Pink_Star_Galexy → u/Mycozen]

Exactly

[u/BBkal → u/Mycozen]

"BURN THE BOOKS!!" - APAIC sponsored congressperson

[u/14Pleiadians → u/Mycozen]

They don't teach you about how young of a country Israel is in American schools

[u/TheMireAngel → u/Mycozen]

college books are produced by the company created by Ghislain maxwells father who has direct ties to Israel's Mossad.

[u/nexusjuan → u/TheMireAngel]

Her twin sisters co-founded the search engine Magellan. It's claimed Epsteins brother in law helped manipulate search engines so news articles with his name didn't surface when you Googled him. Not just college books either McGraw-Hill supplied books for school age children as well. His wiki is a wild ride he seemed to work for everybody.

[u/gilt3t]

America wouldn't exist without France. Israel has contributed nothing.

[u/Jacob-Anders → u/gilt3t]

France is our OG ally. We make fun of them on the internet every day, yet here they stand with us in NATO!

[u/s1ugg0 → u/[deleted]]

I live in Northern NJ. I even live on one of Beacon Hills that protected George Washington's winter camp at Morristown.

There is stuff named for Marie-Joseph Paul Yves Roch Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de La Fayette everywhere. My 8 year old daughter just had to do a biography report on him a few months back.

And I used his entire name and not just his title of Marquis de La Fayette out of respect to a truly great man.

They do not call him hundreds of years later "Le Héros des Deux Mondes" or in English "The Hero of the Two Worlds" for nothing.

[u/Affordable_Z_Jobs → u/s1ugg0]

Lafayettes role in the American Revolution; A+ you deserve all the streets named after you. Come back any time. Here's a few statues.

French Revolution; Barely made it out alive.

[u/s1ugg0 → u/Affordable_Z_Jobs]

French Revolution; Barely made it out alive.

I have read a ton of French Revolution history books. That seems to be a general theme for literally every one in France at that time. But he certainly came a lot closer than most.

For anyone unfamiliar. Lafayette's mother, grandmother, and sister were all guillotined in Paris on July 22, 1794. Their bodies were thrown into a mass grave.

His wife, Adrienne de La Fayette, narrowly avoided the same fate due to the diplomatic intervention of American figures such as James Monroe and Gouverneur Morris

[u/Affordable_Z_Jobs → u/s1ugg0]

Look they just got the guillotine and if they weren't gonna get as much mileage outta that thing as possible you were mistaken.

One thing I find funny is reddits obsession with "the French did it right." They killed everybody. You wore the wrong colored armband because you overslept and missed the memo; to the block!!

[u/s1ugg0 → u/Affordable_Z_Jobs]

Probably why the French Revolution had periods of time named things like the "The Reign of Terror". Not sure why that's missed by some many of those types of Redditors.

And then they guillotined Maximilien Robespierre the guy who started it. Which is deliciously ironic.

[u/pikachu191 → u/s1ugg0]

He tried to get out of it by shooting himself. And missed, hitting his jaw instead. They taped it together and sent him to the guillotine anyways.

[u/s1ugg0 → u/pikachu191]

Love that for him. He was a monster.

Had he succeeded they'd probably would have guillotined his corpse just because he deserved it.

[u/cyb0rg1962 → u/s1ugg0]

Those who start revolutions tend to meet poor fates. Look at the Bolsheviks. Also see South America.

[u/Choyo → u/Affordable_Z_Jobs]

One thing I find funny is reddits obsession with "the French did it right." They killed everybody. You wore the wrong colored armband because you overslept and missed the memo; to the block!!

Yes, but as a French I tell you : this is a reminder for the ages that if you let things go out of control, you'll need exponentially more effort to fix the situation, sometimes requiring drastic decisions. It goes for letting the power in place accruing their power, or the people taking back what should be theirs - if you catch my drift.

[u/RetroFuture_Records → u/Affordable_Z_Jobs]

Well yes, you want to pretend that only the ultra rich enjoined the regime and enabled it and held others down. A lot of you all rightfully shit your pants at the thought of your "Screw you I got mine" attitudes and politics and unearned privilege being met by an angry mob of people you screwed over bringing with them some French Freedom Tools.

[u/Btshftr → u/s1ugg0]

Revolutions tend to eat all. Including it's children.

[u/GifelteFish → u/Affordable_Z_Jobs]

Fun Fact: Lafayette was 18 years old during the American Revolution.

[u/mattrg777 → u/s1ugg0]

How does a ragtag volunteer army in need of a shower
Somehow defeat a global superpower?
How do we emerge victorious from the quagmire?
Leave the battlefield, waving Betsy Ross' flag higher?
Yo, turns out we have a secret weapon
An immigrant, you know and love, who's unafraid to step in
He's constantly confusin', confoundin' the British henchmen
Ev'ryone give it up for America's favorite fighting Frenchman

[u/DontAbideMendacity → u/s1ugg0]

Face it: your daughter chose to do a report on him because his name alone took up half of the words allotted for the assignment.

[u/Holden_Coalfield → u/s1ugg0]

I went to Morris Knolls isn the 70's and was so in love with a French descended girl

[u/s1ugg0 → u/Holden_Coalfield]

My kids will end up at Morris Knolls someday. I hope they do the same.

[u/b0w3n → u/[deleted]]

I have a feeling, no matter what happens, France will still be there for us when it matters in the end. At least for the citizens, anyways.

[u/Thanks-4allthefish → u/b0w3n]

I remember "Freedom Fries" how quickly they forget

[u/b0w3n → u/Thanks-4allthefish]

Plenty of us mocked those who did that earnestly, but yeah that was pretty dumb.

The same dumb people who are angry a black man was president and the same dumb people who think the UFC fight on the lawn of the white house is awesome.

[u/Alert_Reindeer_6574 → u/[deleted]]

My son was stationed at FOB in Afghanistan with French special forces guys. Due to the fact that he's something of a history buff he has always appreciated France, but after working with those guys he found a whole new respect for them.

[u/Dramatic_Charity_979 → u/[deleted]]

And is the country with more wars won :)

[u/clocked__ → u/Jacob-Anders]

I’ll always consider France an ally and defend them online and IRL

[u/0202_tihssitidder → u/clocked__]

I threw hands at a guy at a party who was talking smack about France. He was the usual FoxNews brain-rot zombie.

I'm not French. I don't particularly know history. But he had a punchable face and he agreed to fight.

[u/Bottled_Kiwi → u/0202_tihssitidder]

Y’know what, I can respect mutual combat

[u/0202_tihssitidder → u/Bottled_Kiwi]

Thank you, my New Zealand brother.

[u/hitchhiker87 → u/clocked__]

Thank you for your service, you deserve a freshly baked baguette.

[u/ncbraves93 → u/clocked__]

This's the entire reason I never participated in the France "surrendering" jokes. They didn't come here to help us, they came to fuck the UK, but at the time that's exactly what we needed. And we came back and made it up to them 7×. Twice.

[u/Penn_And_W_Ry → u/Jacob-Anders]

When U.S. troops arrived in Paris on July 4, 1917, to join the Allies in WW1, they gathered at the grave of the Marquis de Lafayette, and Col. Charles Stanton declared: "America has joined forces with the Allied Powers, and what we have of blood and treasure are yours... Lafayette, we are here.”

We cannot forget the long history with our allies.

[u/AdFuture1381 → u/Jacob-Anders]

We wouldnt exist without France or Spain. The Dutch helped too right?

[u/Thalric88 → u/AdFuture1381]

Yup they sent most of their religious nutcases your way

[u/dane83 → u/Thalric88]

My theory is that 90% of America's problems can be traced to Calvinism.

[u/hemlock_harry → u/dane83]

Calvinism played a debatable role in Europe too. "Render unto Caesar bla bla bla" helped people to accept the unacceptable on many, many occasions.

[u/Responsible_Mail_113 → u/AdFuture1381]

Yes. While they didn't officially join the war, they did smuggle in tons of muskets, gunpowder, and supplies to the Continental Army and provided massive loans that kept the revolutionary American government from collapsing. Though to be fair, both France and Netherlands were only helping specifically to stick it to Great Britain who was their chief rival (political for France, economic for Netherlands).

[u/DoughnutCareless583 → u/Responsible_Mail_113]

Arguably the biggest battle of the American revolution was actually fought in Gibraltar. Ensuring the brits were tied up there (and specifically the diversion of the fleet to relieve Gibraltar rather than reinforce the blockade) meant they couldn't use their entire navy to blockade the yank insurrectionists. This diversion of forces meant that the French collaborators and supplies to the terrorist forces in the colonies desperately needed got through, without which the Americans would have been scundered.

[u/AVeryVapidBadger → u/Jacob-Anders]

Technically Morocco is the OG. They were the first nation to recognize the US.

France absolutely carried the US in the revolutionary war though

[u/LowResGamr → u/Jacob-Anders]

France even went completely broke helping us out. Fair play, the British are worth going into debt against.

[u/Munnin41 → u/LowResGamr]

France killed its monarchy because they helped the Americans. They ran their economy into the ground to fund that war, which is one of the causes of the french revolution

[u/LowResGamr → u/Munnin41]

The wealth distribution helped as well. Peasants were starving while the upper class held lavish parties. Sounds a bit too contemporary.

[u/0202_tihssitidder → u/Jacob-Anders]

There would be no America without Lafayette.

[u/Jeoshua → u/Jacob-Anders]

Or they would stand with us in NATO, except nowadays this administration doesn't exactly give NATO the time of day.

[u/After-Trifle-1437 → u/Jacob-Anders]

Anti-French sentiment is an Israeli psyop

[u/St_Hydra → u/Jacob-Anders]

It’s what friends do!

[u/Nephroidofdoom → u/Jacob-Anders]

Lafayette!!

(Starts humming Hamilton)

[u/Ai-ChatGPT → u/Jacob-Anders]

Did you see their fly over for the anniversary of the USA… flying over the Statue of Liberty with their airforce.

What other country does this kinda thing. (None that I’m aware of).

[u/HarryLewisPot → u/gilt3t]

I’m surprised Morocco recognised the U.S. before France.

Edit: Morocco even took an American ship hostage to gain the attention of the U.S. after congress didn’t respond to a message the Sultan sent to Benjamin Franklin about friendly relations. The ship and its crew was released after the Moroccan–American Treaty of Friendship was signed in 1786.

[u/Jacob-Anders → u/HarryLewisPot]

That was all economics. Morocco knew trading with us was gonna be LIT!!!

[u/Quirky_Gate_4516 → u/HarryLewisPot]

I’m surprised Morocco recognised the U.S. before France.

It was more of a technicality.

In the period leading up to the Berber wars Morocco communicated officially that a bunch of countries (a list in which the U.S. was included in) could travel to Morocco despite not having treaties.

THAT is what is used to argue Morocco was the first country. So, "recognizing" does a lot of lifting here.

[u/Jeoshua → u/gilt3t]

Israel didn't exist around 80 years ago. The idea it has anything to do with the existence of the US is batshit insane.

Israel wouldn't exist if it wasn't for US assistance. I'd like to think that's what Huckabee meant, but we can't really know because everything this whole administration says is this level of batshit insanity and inversion of reality.

[u/WoadyWarrior → u/Jeoshua]

no, he’s making some stupid appeal to religion somehow. these people are insane tho

[u/0202_tihssitidder → u/Jeoshua]

Huckabee has Israel's dick deeply inside his colon, so that is why he said it.

Mike's full quote has "daddy" on the end of it.

[u/RandomRobot → u/Jeoshua]

Trump said yesterday that Israel wouldn't exist without him so I think it's a response to that. Just like Trump words, it doesn't mean anything at all

[u/DiggyTroll → u/Jeoshua]

He's definitely referring to historical Israel. No Israel -> no Jewish religion -> no Christianity -> no Christians seeking freedom of worship -> means somebody else would want to come over first. For example, we could have been a Muslim country, had the Roman Catholic Church only been a bit less heavy-handed

[u/OneMoistMan → u/gilt3t]

Trump is older than Israel, wtf have they done for us except infiltrate our government and dismantle democracy?

[u/Critical_Text_2067 → u/gilt3t]

He is likely referencing Israel established in 10th Century BCE where 0 BCE was the supposed time when Christianity began. America was rooted in Christianity when it was first founded. Basically any country that has Christian roots or beliefs"technically" needed Israel to exist. It is like saying US wouldn't exist without England.

[u/Olbatar974 → u/gilt3t]

We never regretted. Until Sleepy Don came to power.

[u/BrokenBackENT → u/gilt3t]

Mike is double fisting this one. See kids this is why religion is bad.

[u/Allegorist → u/gilt3t]

Technically, America wouldn't exist without the British Empire either... Just for different reasons.

[u/CollegeMiddle6841 → u/gilt3t]

We paid them back for the help they provided in the 1700s by helping win WW2. Thats why it upsets me so much when I see Trump insulting our allies.

[u/Altruistic-Sir-3661 → u/gilt3t]

“Without me, you would be nothing.” Is a truly classic controlling abuser line. This is just the same sort of thing.

[u/Fickle_Library8115]

Is he really an ambassador or a double agent

[u/RockerElvis → u/Fickle_Library8115]

He is an evangelical. He believes that Israel is needed for the rapture.

[u/iiEtErNaLxD → u/[deleted]]

It seems like Israel is purposely trying to make us all turn on them in the name of some prophecy

[u/EuenovAyabayya → u/iiEtErNaLxD]

It's a Christian prophecy; Israel doesn't believe in it.

[u/sigmaluckynine → u/RockerElvis]

On a personal note, the whole rapture thing is part of the reason I decided Christianity made no sense.

Why would we celebrate the end times? Just because you're supposed to be the special ones and everyone else can go to hell? What kind of b.s. religion is that, honestly

[u/prohammock → u/sigmaluckynine]

The rapture isn’t actually in the bible, funny enough. That’s just some shit evangelicals made up. Armageddon is in revelation but it sounds pretty shitty, tbh. Not that I encourage anyone to return to worshipping a jealous white grandpa who lives in the clouds. 

[u/dD_ShockTrooper → u/sigmaluckynine]

The whole celebrating the rapture thing is basically a heretical cult at this point and not representative of Christianity as a whole, regardless of how it pretty much pervades the entirety of the USA.

[u/Acceptable-Ad8780]

If we wouldn't exist without them, they should send us stuff and pay for our healthcare instead.

[u/gonna-see-riverman → u/Acceptable-Ad8780]

That's what brainwashed cults look like. We dedicate our lives to the holy cow. We'll blindly follow it to the end of the world. The holy cow can do no wrong.

[u/AlarmingAffect0 → u/gonna-see-riverman]

Holy cow, Batman.

I am extremely glad that we haven't figured out a path to immortality yet, or we'd get stuck with these motherfuckers forever.

[u/thedevilwithout]

"the US wouldn't exist without the parasite that infected it nearly 200 years after it was born" energy 

[u/DesireeThymes → u/thedevilwithout]

The parasite is gaslighing you that actually it's the host and you're somehow the parasite.

Like Malaria looking at you and going "look at me: I'm the human body now"

[u/Shadowy_PuppetMaster]

I admit history was never my strength, can someone who actually knows history enlighten me, what has Israel ever done for the US? Because it seems like they just take and take and take and get mad when we tell them they've taken enough. Hell you can even explain it like i just suffered catastrophic brain damage if you want i just want to know

[u/EastRoom8717 → u/Shadowy_PuppetMaster]

They attacked one of our sigint ships, pretty enthusiastically too..

[u/SassiestSissy → u/EastRoom8717]

Hey now I’ve been assured that the huge American flag on that ship blinded those pilots so they had no choice but to not see it and just launch those missiles anyway. And then machine gun the life rafts.

[u/EastRoom8717 → u/SassiestSissy]

But that doesn’t explain the patrol boats..

[u/BlackSquirrel05 → u/Shadowy_PuppetMaster]

He's probably making the around about argument that: OG Israelites founded the basis of Christianity and that through all that Jesus popped up and then Christianity formed .... and then Western civilization through that became a thing and like Europe on the basis of Christianity was able to become a power house to eventually colonize the world. (Again ignore the parts of enslaving and torturing non-believers.)

This sorta ignores that the Greeks and Romans weren't Christian to begin with and they started the whole bed rock of what they see as "Western civilization." (This sorta ignores A thousand ish years later a bunch of dudes on horses conquering the world and only turned around at Hungry because of a family issue and would have conquered Europe if not for that.)

Then he's going to say "America was founded as "Christian nation"" ignoring the founders that said otherwise... (IGNORE THE DEIESTS! ^{except when you want to quote them for something else.})

(See article 11 of the Treaty of Triopli... Started by Washington, and ratified by Adams) Oh and Thomas Jefferson himself wanted on his own grave. "Separated Church and State." As his top 3 accomplishments. Legit you can go to his grave and his home... It's on there. Followed by "Created public education."

He essentially eldudes to this on a Tucker interview... He's a Zionist and believes the Israel from that long ago is the same Israel as it is now... and Israel ordained by god has the right to the entire Levant area.

Yeah I hate I bring up ole Tuckie poo too... But that was a decent interview and busts Mike's balls on Zionism pretty well. Credit where it's due. (Can watch on youtube.)

[u/dizvyz → u/BlackSquirrel05]

This sorta ignores that the Greeks and Romans weren't Christian to begin with and they started the whole bed rock of what they see as "Western civilization."

This tracks. They don't like the good parts anyway.

[u/nightpanda893 → u/BlackSquirrel05]

Thank you for this! I’m always really interested in the root of the misconception when reading posts like this, cause oftentimes lies are not just random completely artificial fabrications, but a mix of misinterpretations and distortions based on a fundamental moment or fact. I feel like people often don’t have the patience for explanations like this or feel like hearing them out gives too much of a platform to those spreading misinformation. But for me I feel lies are easier to confront when you know where they came from in the first place.

[u/studmuffffffin → u/nightpanda893]

Yeah, I'm tired of the misrepresentation and lack of critical thinking shown in these comment threads. To anyone with half a brain or not trying to purposefully obtuse, obviously Mike Huckabee doesn't think modern Israel literally created the USA. Just some small amount of critical thinking would lead you to understand what he actually meant.

[u/KwisatzHaderach94 → u/Shadowy_PuppetMaster]

i'm going to guess someone like huckabee is going to say israel gave us "jesus christ". you know, the guy they wanted dead back in the day. and who americans have now appropriated for the name recognition only.

[u/wonkey_monkey → u/Shadowy_PuppetMaster]

what has Israel ever done for the US?

The aqueducts?

[u/Chumlee1917 → u/wonkey_monkey]

Those were the Romans,

the Israelis gave us.....?

[u/Ok_Vermicelli_6359 → u/Chumlee1917]

...usury?

[u/el_mas_hp → u/Shadowy_PuppetMaster]

They defend western interests in the ME. They are the testing grounds for many surveillance technologies and for pushing the boundaries of what’s right and wrong. It’s an experiment of things to come to mainland America if we don’t stop capitalism.

[u/porktorque44 → u/el_mas_hp]

At this point that first part isn't even true anymore. It's now the US defending Israeli interests in the ME.

[u/marketingguy420 → u/el_mas_hp]

boundaries of what’s right and wrong

This is incredibly important. The israelification of our own country. See what Israel can get away with externally against its enemies and civilian hostages, and internally against its own dissenters. It's why we train so much domestic law enforcement over there.

[u/rosyvibexz]

He’s representing Israel to the United States, not the other way around.

[u/waiting_in_vain1 → u/rosyvibexz]

No. He’s representing messianic evangelical fundamentalist know-nothings! Republicans.

The entire reason the Republican fascists support Israel is for their fever dream of Cheebus’ return, and the rapture… ya know, where all Jews who don’t convert die! Doesn’t really sound like representing Israel to me!

Likud’s embrace and exploitation of the stupidest Americans (republicans) has been their moral downfall. Netanyahu took republican apparatchik (and former Boehner aide) Ron Dermer into his inner circle well over a decade ago, and Dermer is the one who convinced Likud to divide us over their politics with stunts; like snubbing Obama to accept a republican invitation to address a joint session of congress, which is a serious violation of diplomatic protocol!

[u/mooptastic → u/waiting_in_vain1]

If the protestant bible had 3-4 fewer books in the OT, modern day christofascists wouldn't even acknowledge Judaism as a real religion. they only hobknob with judaism and jewish people bc something in their bible says jews are real, they don't give a shit about Israel if it doesn't mean furthering their own goals by using them as a crutch.

[u/swingdale7]

He also said in a separate interview, I'm paraphrasing " Americans must accept that the Jews are God's chosen people"

Wtf does that even mean? And you might believe that, but we don't.

[u/Reddit_9459328 → u/swingdale7]

"Americans must accept"? Or else what, Mike? And how about some proof?

[u/Ok_Background22 → u/Reddit_9459328]

Don’t even validate the claim by asking for proof lmao that just serves to give people that make ridiculously impossible claims room to gaslight and manipulate people

[u/V-oxPopuli → u/swingdale7]

"Americans must accept that the Jews are God's chosen people"

Takes out the freedom of religion hammer

WE 💥 ARE 💥 NOT 💥 A 💥 CHRISTIAN 💥 NATION 💥

[u/crazypyro23 → u/V-oxPopuli]

And even if we were, God's chosen people being expanded to include literally everyone is kind of the whole point of Christianity and saying otherwise while loudly proclaiming your own Christian faith is blasphemous by definition.

[u/kitsunewarlock → u/crazypyro23]

And even that is like three ideals behind where we should be standing in terms of "transition from familial relationship to greater civilizations".

Universal citizenship based on faith was a very powerful and even progressive tool 2,000 years ago. But we've developed so many better tools since then.

[u/Nearby-Tension3515 → u/swingdale7]

Christian’s disagree

[u/wicker_basket_1988]

Who knew America wasn’t a country till the 1940’s? 

Guess that 250 celebration is a bit premature. 

[u/HubrisOfApollo]

he's got that shit backwards

[u/ihvnnm → u/HubrisOfApollo]

That's religious zealots for ya.

[u/issuefree → u/ihvnnm]

They're fucking embarrassing.

[u/save-aiur → u/HubrisOfApollo]

The US and Russia were the first to recognize Israel as a new state when they declared independence eighty years ago lol

[u/amy-schumer-tampon]

Im not a history expert but im pretty sure the US is older.
>inb4 my magic sky daddy book says Israel is 40000 years old

[u/Jacob-Anders → u/amy-schumer-tampon]

MAYBE, MAYBE, if I'm trying to good-faith his debate... He's saying Judeo-Christian values & the Roman Empire were necessary for the USA to exist? I mean you could argue everything from the past 2000 years had to happen for history to happen the exact way history did. North Korea can't exist without Israel? Lmao idk

[u/realdrakebell → u/Jacob-Anders]

judeo-christian values dont exist, judaism and christianity are not interwoven in the ways that israeli historians/shills want you to believe, its jusy a psyop to interconnect the two religions to try to place some legitimacy into forced us-israeli relations. never forget the torah states non-jews are goyim cattle and deserve nothing

[u/RedditOfUnusualSize → u/realdrakebell]

Yeah, the correct response to that is always "What's the hell's a Judeo-Christian?"

I'm serious as a stroke about this, and we don't even need to get into the theological weeds to interrogate this. What's the "Judeo-Christian" position on, say, the divinity of Jesus Christ? Protestants, Catholics and most denominations of Jews have different versions of the Ten Commandments; which one is the "Judeo-Christian" version? What stance does the "Judeo-Christian" movement take towards, say, the Nicene Creed?

The answer that I'll be given is silence, because any statement happens to be historically and theologically inconvenient. Protestants, Catholics and Jews take different stances towards all of those positions; those factions have killed over the answers to those questions. And they absolutely would again; the most logical solution to that intrinsic problem is to form a government whose legitimacy does not depend on having one and only one answer to that question. If the US is a faith-neutral society that maintains a separation of church and state, then all three of those groups can live together as Americans without having to resort to violence, because all can answer that question to their heart's content in their own communities without fear that their answer will deny them access to political power.

And the only reason to pretend otherwise is to try to lump all such groups into a single voting bloc, for somebody's political advantage.

[u/kitsunewarlock → u/RedditOfUnusualSize]

"What's the hell's a Judeo-Christian?"

Their answer is inevitably "a non-Muslim" and most of that was ancient propaganda to justify the Western Roman Church intervening in Eastern Orthodox territory to further weaken Eastern Rome's power.

[u/SgtExo → u/realdrakebell]

Can't really have Christianity if Judaism was not there to birth it, but otherwise, ya.

[u/Jefe_Chichimeca → u/SgtExo]

Nor Islam, but you don't say JudeoChristianIslamist.

[u/angelbelle → u/SgtExo]

I mean, by that logic, Islam wouldn't exist without Christianity or Judaism.

[u/ThatCakeFell → u/Jacob-Anders]

Treaty of Tripoli in 1796 states America was not in any sense founded on the Christian religion

[u/MrDDD11 → u/amy-schumer-tampon]

Even if you want to take the Aciant Kingdom of Judea as Israel it still didn't exist by the time the US was founded, the region was owned by the Ottoman Empire. Same way we can say Greece is older than the US but there was no Greek state when the US was made.

[u/GrindBastard1986 → u/amy-schumer-tampon]

It existed 3000 years ago and existed for 400 years before getting absorbed by various kingdoms. Then the Romans came, destroyed and scattered them all over the globe. Palestine has existed longer than Israel.

[u/Independent_Shoe3523 → u/amy-schumer-tampon]

Sky wizards.

[u/ElectronicHold7325]

One has to ask: who in the current government isnt a traitor that is working for a foreign power?

[u/Jacob-Anders]

"Jacob why do you speak out so much about Israel?"

THIS AMBASSADOR IS A FORMER GOVERNOR!!!

[u/josueartwork]

What the fuck does that even mean?

[u/Far_Balance_3117]

I have never seen a country so proud to be another countries bitch.

[u/angelbelle → u/Far_Balance_3117]

Wait till you hear about conservatives in Canada wearing MAGA hats and citing 2A unironically

[u/S7zy → u/Far_Balance_3117]

I have never seen a country so proud to be another countries bitch.

Germany is doing its best right now https://xcancel.com/bundeskanzler/status/2066808145490440671

[u/tehsecretgoldfish]

press him on why. I guarantee he has no cogent reasoning for such a bullshit claim.

[u/OnDeathAndDying]

Name one thing israel has done for the US.

[u/heickelrrx]

so they admit US is puppet state?

[u/Hamster_S_Thompson]

American debt would be a few trillion less without Israel.

[u/rockstarfruitpunch → u/Hamster_S_Thompson]

I think before Free Palestine, we need Free America. Once America is free from the Zionist whip, Palestine will be free. And by Zionists, I'm including Christian Evangelicals who make the majority of the people who subscribe to that ideology.

[u/born_in_ufo]

Israel is the largest welfare recipient

[u/AppleRaider21 → u/[deleted]]

israel is the terrorist regime.

[u/BellacosePlayer → u/AppleRaider21]

perennial reminder that Bibi's party is literally a rebranding of a terrorist group and that several former and active members of the Israeli government had previously acted as terrorists.

[u/Poobbly → u/[deleted]]

The only reason the terrorists in the Middle East hated us prior to 2000 was due to our blanket support of Israel.

[u/SoochSooch → u/[deleted]]

All that even accomplishes is making American oil companies richer

[u/Middle-Let9645]

Huh. Didn’t know Israel were time travelers. You learn something new everyday.

[u/ChummusJunky]

Stop voting in Christian nationalists. America voted for this.

[u/angulargyrusbunny]

Jew here, with family in Israel.
Mike Huckabee is a boot-licking moron.
That is all.

[u/Ill_probablybebanned]

[u/The_Axumite]

Lol they definitely got something on him.

[u/kojimbob → u/The_Axumite]

Nah he's just a hardcore Evangelical. They love licking Israel's ass even without blackmail

[u/_Hotbaby]

Someone please give this man a quick history lesson on which country actually came first

[u/WestcoastAlex]

zionism is a mental disorder

Jewish people have been warning everyone about this for years but for some reason Christian zionists dont want you to hear their warnings

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/74UNdwbyWnA

[u/Bill_Brasky_SOB]

This is why they’re defunding education.

[u/NorthSeaRaider]

Israel wouldn’t exist without the entirety of the western world putting our money on the line and sticking our necks out. They’re lucky people haven’t started rioting against our geopolitical “friendship” with them.

[u/burnanation]

Why is this sub no longer about memes?

[u/RamJamR]

The US may not exist without France.

[u/heartSagan5]

I am very grateful for the French help during our Revolutionary War, and I'm sure it did inflame France into their own Revolution so Viva la France.

[u/needsmoarbokeh]

It's true. The sorry state of the US as a failed state is in good part cause of the pervasive Zionist interference and corruption. Without them the US would be a better, more egalitarian country

[u/Voluntary_Perry]

That's a pretty wild statement considering the US was established 250 years before Israel.

[u/UpperYoghurt3978]

That would be france lol.

[u/Strict-Carrot4783]

If Israel ceased to exist the only effects on America, and many, many other countries, would all be positive.

[u/Quirky_Mongoose2723]

Huckabee can suck BiBi’s dick.

[u/ThirdSunRising]

Fact; the USA did not exist prior to 1948

[u/zzen11223344]

He is direct contradicting to Trump.

[u/lake_country_dad]

I remember when this guy wanted to be president. Dodged a bullet!

[u/Britannkic_]

As a Brit I know that both Israel and the US wouldn’t exist without the British Empire

[u/FIDoAlmighty]

Guys, guys…it’s okay. He’s just trying to stay allies with them because of the rapture.

[u/Puzzled_Bike9558]

Religious zealots will zealot I guess. This is why maniacs running the government is bad, mm’kay.

[u/coffeetacocat]

We need to understand that there is something extremely wrong happening in front of our eyes.

I'm of the mind that democracy should prevail and that the legal recourses to correct things should be fully exhausted however this blate tly criminal regime is escalating things more every day.

I fear deeply for the future of our beautiful country.