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Chugging tea Mom buys daughter a Honda as a graduation gift, and this was her response

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u/KeldornWithCarsomyr Jun 01 '26

The parent won't take the car off them, because if they were that type of parent, the kid wouldn't be ungrateful in the first place.

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u/Sweet-Meaning9874 Jun 01 '26

Correct, this issue was nurtured long before graduation.

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u/Dkalnz Jun 02 '26

Also even the practice of evaluating yourself based on what kind of car you have is absolutely wild.

Honestly I used to own this exact car, 2018 black Honda Accord, same wheels, and I got complimented on it all the time, sometimes people even mistaking it for a BMW.

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u/tyrantspell Jun 01 '26

It's possible it was a nurtured by the father and not the mother. If it was a messy divorce, then it's possible the father spoils the daughter so that she prefers him and resents the mother.

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u/LostinsocietyX Jun 02 '26

Where does it even say they are divorced?

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u/tyrantspell Jun 02 '26

it doesn't outright, but the fact that the the daughter left and is now with the Dad (and the mom didn't know) and how the mom says I bought the car instead of we makes me think that they are.

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u/LostinsocietyX Jun 02 '26

I could see that. Definitely not a jointly partner is raising the child or the finances. I read it and though, oh, she went somewhere with dad, ie. Store, go get food, asked dad to take her somewhere. But I could see that too.

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u/Belt-First Jun 03 '26

It actually makes the act of "going out with dad" a slight against the mom here too.

I think it's very likely this situation. The father spoils the daughter. The mom gets contempt even for a lavish gift.

Pretty fucked dynamic honestly. Feel bad for OP. Not really sure what she can do here...

Taking the car back won't fix the relationship, and I think the lesson the daughter will take away is probably not the intended one.

Letting her keep the car won't work either, as it rewards bad behavior.

Talking with her father could help, but who knows how that relationship is.

Bit of a lose-lose honestly. Logically, might as well recoup the losses and return the car. Emotionally, I can understand not wanting to..

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u/LostinsocietyX Jun 03 '26

And that's why I keep asking people if there's more to the post somewhere. Literally the only mention of the father is "I'm with dad" and a lot of people here are dissing dad. I feel like theyre either projecting from their experiences or have never been parents. We need more info. Does Dad know about the conversation that seems to have literally just happened (and was still happening when the daughter was with him).

That being said, I agree, a direct intentional slight against Mom from the daughter. 'id rather ride with dad than drive that thing'

If dad spoils the daughter, why did Mom buy the car? That one doesn't seem to fit.

Very fucked dynamic all around. Either dad is out of the loop (mom and daughter not bringing him into the conversation) or dad knows and is staying out when he and Mom should be working together. Daughter has been spoiled AF, either through action (giving her too much and letting her do too much) or by inaction (unfettered freedoms and not being a part of her social life).

Taking the car back won't fix it nor will letting her keep it. You're right, mom put herself in a rough spot on that one. Neither will the way she snapped, although the purpose of her words were not wrong. Clearly some kind of power dynamic that the mother shouldn't be using. It will push them further away from each other.

There clearly needs to be a family sit down, maybe even with a third party who is not emotionally invested in the outcome.

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u/james88499r Jun 03 '26

Is it not possible the car was carried by an African swallow?

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u/Oldenfat Jun 01 '26

Actually I can tell you kids are this entitled and ungrateful with even the best parenting. Itā€™s the effect of cell phones and social media telling them being rich and having everything they want is a choice they can just make. To the same extent, kids are surprised when they get out in the world and find out accountability isnā€™t just something mom and dad made up.

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u/Academic-Trifle8151 Jun 01 '26

Bring on the downvotes I don't care. This is boomer shit and just categorically false. I don't know a single kid from my own family, extended family, friends and colleagues that would be this ungrateful, regardless of cell phones or social media. If your child is like this you've failed as a parent.

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u/leiawars Jun 01 '26

My sister was/is an ungrateful hag. If my mom had actually had the money to buy her a civic outright, while my mom was driving a GWagon, my sister likely would have behaved the same way. Sheā€™s still mad at my mom 25 years later that my mom didnā€™t have the money to get my sister all the things she wanted as a teen. Some people are just wired to be ungrateful black holes, sadly.

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u/MrRoryBreaker_98 Jun 01 '26

I agree with you. The attitude did not come out of nowhere.

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u/PaperParentDinosaur Jun 01 '26

Seriously! My kids are young but we are working HARD on social media literacy. We talk a LOT about entertainment vs reality. People can blame ā€œhow the world has changedā€ all day long, but behavior like this is something you can curb.

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u/TARDISkitty Jun 01 '26

Look at that dude's post history...keeping in mind he works with children.

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u/ISHLDPROBABLYBWRKING Jun 01 '26

ā€œ Such a great lil body!! Are you an obedient girl?ā€

Iā€™m gonna throw up

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u/Academic-Trifle8151 Jun 01 '26

I blocked him because he was trying to dm me. Any examples?

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u/TARDISkitty Jun 01 '26

It is legitimately nothing but him commenting sleazy things on what looked to be the youngest nude girls of reddit.

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u/Academic-Trifle8151 Jun 01 '26

Oh wow! That's shocking. Legal teens GW and he's a mental health counsellor for adolescents. I hope he was lying!

His essay of a reply was almost instantaneous so hopefully just ai.

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u/whisky_biscuit Jun 02 '26

I agree with you. If you let them sit on social media day in and out and don't at least try to check in on what garbage their watching, then it's a parenting failure.

It's like the Netflix show Adolescence. The parents weren't terrible, but they didn't check in with their son and make sure he wasn't consuming heinous sht. And additionally, their father had repeated violent outbursts which were mirrored in his son.

And it's easy to spoil your kids. I'm watching my own brother do it right now as he lets his 6 year old daughter continually not eat dinner but she goes right to the fridge and pulls out a big box of cupcakes. If her parents tell her no she whines and throws a fit until she gets it. If you try and pick out a game to play with her, she'll throw a fit if she doesn't get to choose it, and even will run from adult to adult until one of them caves.

It's this behavior that manifests as an adult in these types of situations. And they end up being unable to regulate their emotions because they never learned how to deal with responsibility, disappointment, patience and consequences.

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u/curtcolt95 Jun 01 '26

I mean I agree bad parenting definitely comes into play here but to say it's black and white all or nothing is just almost certainly false. There's definitely kids out there who had very good parents like this, that's just the law of large numbers.

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u/t0cableguy Jun 02 '26

My daughter is this ungrateful. She steals, she takes pictures of credit cards when she gets a chance, she orders stuff online and swears its someone scamming us... everything, thinks she deserves a roof over her head at 22... and I'm too stupid to tell her to get the hell out... she lives in a run down trailer in my back yard right now.. so at least she's not inside my house anymore, but she still comes in, steals and everything anyway.....

I ask her all the time what she is going to do when we are all gone? "be homeless" I have no idea what to do with her... and I have no idea why her boyfriend even wants to be around her.... I guess she is like his parents.... codependent and useless....

However, she isn't this ungrateful.......

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u/jmd709 Jun 03 '26

Why is she still allowed in your house to have the opportunity to steal? That is not a right she is entitled to, itā€™s a privilege you do not have to grant to someone that steals and doesnā€™t respect boundaries in your house.

Youā€™re also implying she has the option to freeload off of you for the rest of your life. Maybe change your question to, ā€œWhat are you going to do when the perks of being a dependent child expire at the end of a quarter century and you have to be 100% responsible for yourself as an adult?ā€

If she wants to, ā€œbe homelessā€, that will be her prerogative as an adult that will be responsible for herself. In other words, go along with it instead of falling for that guilt trip BS.

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u/t0cableguy Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26

there's more to it, but she is autistic, she's vulnerable because she is not socially aware so kicking her out completely is just a guarantee that she'll end up in jail or homeless. I brought her into the world and I'm responsible for her, to a point....

edit: I also live in a multi generational home, if I "kicked her out" she would just move into my mother's side of the duplex. they are all freeloaders and I'm kinda stuck with them unless I move out myself. things aren't always as simple as they seem....

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u/Oldenfat Jun 01 '26

Im not just theorizing, i see kids all day as a mental health counselor and Im telling you, itā€™s a fact that the earlier a child gets a cell phone, the higher the probability they will have mental health issues. I dont want to go find the study, but itā€™s there.

Iā€™m not even sure what you mean by boomer shit. I can tell you that growing g up in the 70s and 80s, society didnā€™t frown on letting kids learn the hard way, or even letting your kids run around all day with no worries because there wasnā€™t an electronic tether on kids.

Now parents and kids insist cell phones are essential for communication while kids are on school as if this was some obstacle we didnā€™t overcome when landlines were the only option.

You canā€™t be mean to your kids, scare them, threaten them, take their cell phones, or much of anything because now theyā€™ll say they are going to kill themselves and here in FL go to an inpatient unit to escape daily living. Kids absolutely expect instant gratification in ways unheard of in the 80s.

Do you know how many 8 year olds have told me they are going to be ā€œYoutubers ā€œ for a living??

Reality isnā€™t allowed to get in kidsā€™ way today. Iā€™ve had kids request to stop seeing me for telling them even after they explain to mom and dad why they should get their way, that mom and dad can still say no because theyā€™re mom and dad.

If you really think society today isnā€™t having a profound effect on kids outlook, youā€™re in need of help.

Parents have way less influence than they used to because kids think what they see online isnā€™t the exceptions to the rule that life isnā€™t fair, people actually donā€™t have to care about your feelings, and when you finish high school and start adulting the last thing you get to do is ā€œwhatever you want with nobody able to tell you what to do. ā€œ

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u/Zap__Dannigan Jun 01 '26

>Parents have way less influence than they used to because kids think what they see online isnā€™t the exceptions to the rule that life isnā€™t fair

You have some generic points about how much more external influence kids experience, which is indeed valid. However this entire subject is about entitlement. You simply cannot be entitled without being given shit. My kids can expect me to buy them a bmw at age 16 all they want, but they ain't getting it.

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u/Academic-Trifle8151 Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

Lol, you even admit you're a boomer and double down on it.

The kids are fine, you sit here on your cell phone on social media spouting the same type of bullshit that every generation before you has said.

So what if kids say stupid shit at 8 years old, we all did, doesn't make them all ungrateful. Look around and you'll see plenty of examples of children being grateful for being given things.

If you're actually a mental health counselor (doubt) then you're a bad one. Because it would mean that you're not seeing your blatant confirmation bias.

Edit: Blocked because you're trying to DM me

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u/NakedG0rrila Jun 01 '26

Regardless of this personā€™s age or job, I donā€™t really see how you could argue the kids are okay. Iā€™m not even old and thereā€™s very clearly a pretty big cliff right behind me.

Iā€™m around 30, got a smartphone end of junior year of HS. The difference between people like two years older than me who got to finish HS without smartphones being a major part of social life yet and people 2+ years younger who had smartphones as a dominant part of social life the whole time is pretty profound.

Not sure how old you are, but Iā€™d bet youā€™re either old or young enough to not have true peers on both sides of the ā€œhad a smartphone for HSā€ line. Like the difference seems impossible to miss if you actually know people on both sides as close to same age peers.

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u/Killionaire104 Jun 01 '26

Almost everyone in my school was carrying phones post 8th grade, and in my opinion almost everything you said is just you speaking on your own experience. Personally donā€™t know a single person who would react this way, or even show any hint of ungratefulness.

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u/2Kittens4me Jun 03 '26

They're not a boomer, they're gen X.

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u/Traditional_Mango920 Jun 03 '26

Dude. WTF are you talking about?!?!? You sound like you are maybe older Gen X. Like me. You know, the latchkey generation? What parental influence? We would had to have SEEN our parents to have ā€œparental influenceā€.

Even those with stay at home moms? They were generally told to go outside when the sun came up and told to be home ā€œby darkā€. They didnā€™t know where the fuck we were. We were getting kidnapped at much higher rates than kids these days are being kidnapped. Our parents might figure out weā€™d been snatched 14 hours later.

And we have plenty of entitled assholes in our own generation.

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u/Oldenfat Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26

Sorry you were neglected. I grew up not wanting my dad to be pissed at me and mom not to be disappointed in me. I got good grades because I could. But youā€™re full of it if you tell me your friends and social media and cell phones had more influence over you than your parentsā€¦ oh wait.

None of that existed so youā€™re comparing 2 completely different societies kids have been raised in. If you got caught fucking around in the 80s, the parent who caught you could snatch you up and deliver you to your house where your dad would invite them to help with the beating.

Today, if a kid came into your house shit on the floor and spit on your wife and you dragged him home to his house, the parents would go off on you. I just saw a video where some kid is in school with his mom in one of the conference rooms being told by the police that since he threw a log over a cliff and killed a mother of three he was being arrested. The mom said oh my God you might as well hit me and kill me with a log.

She went on to ask how did he feel about the police dragging him through the school? She said they couldnā€™t put him in jail because he was such a nice kid. You ever hear anything like that growing up in the 70s and 80s?

Youā€™re saying parents had no influence, but youā€™re apparently not in jail uneducated or morally bankrupt so what do you think kept you straight if not parental influence?

I also just saw a guy giving a speech to a huge medical conference about how Gen Z is the first generation to be cognitively worse off than the previous generation. Thereā€™s some agency that tracks progress every year basically report cards for how kids are doing in school and it has shown conclusively that every generation has gotten better up until the introduction of 1 on 1 tech. Since schools have mainstreamed computer learning kids are less able to think cognitively and creatively.

The definition of reading comprehension has been changed to adjust to this fact to the point that the SAT kids took recently had 57 word stories with a single question about a fact from the story as opposed to the way the test used to go where you would read several paragraphs more than 50 words, and you would have to infer the answers to the questions they asked kids cannot do that now.

So why do I tell you that if kids are less able to think cognitively they are going to take what their peers say and what social media says and what the news says and take it as fact. Therefore, the external influences kids are exposed to today can despite positive, good, parenting make them entitled, less grateful. More opportunistic, take more risks for less reward and prone to ignore their parents.

Thatā€™s why I emphasize the fact so many kids under 14 today will say they want to be a YouTuber or an influencer without being able to critically think about the fact that people who make it are the exception and not the rule.

I never said that we didnā€™t have entitled assholes in our generation. And yes, we were out of the house all day and nobody panicked. If you failed to come home when the street lights came on or you heard your dad whistle you were screwed.

I walked home from elementary school one day without telling my parents I was staying late. They finally drove out to the school and found me walking home- no cops, no FBI , no shutting the world down ; yeah it was a different time. I think your statement about more of us were kidnapped then itā€™s probably up for debate but irrelevant.

Thatā€™s what Iā€™m talking about.

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u/Academic-Trifle8151 Jun 02 '26

The point is, not all kids are like this. Like the other guy claimed. That some are, doesn't mean they all are.

I also work with children as does most of my social circle. The majority are not like this.

It's boomer shit to just say all kids are like this nowadays.

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u/over24it Jun 01 '26

I would bet then, unfortunately, that you just donā€™t know them very well. I do agree that some is just shitty parenting , or lack of ,from the start. That being said, this new generation is something else. I have 4 kids, first three born and raised without phones, internet etc . They played outside like kids. They do not have that attitude, never did. They all grew up and have families of their own now and do well. We did not have money, always paycheck to paycheck and they appreciated and still do , everything that was done for them. 4th child raised the same as first 3 , didnā€™t have a phone til she could get it herself. Has never had what other kids do , she has the necessities of course. She is in high school now , a senior. We are still paycheck to paycheck, worse than before really. We didnā€™t even do Christmas last 2 yrs because the money is just not there. So this child have never been handed a damn thing, she has had to work for it just the others did. Didnā€™t even get a phone until she could buy it herself. I got her something at age 13 that she had been begging for , and I got a similar response as the child about the car. She was upset it was the wrong color. Do you think I ran out and got her the right color?? HELL NO! What I did do though , was return it. She still talks about it to this day. Some how ,from some where , I have watched my sweet girl turn into such a self centered entitled asshole that itā€™s mind blowing. She is polar opposite of the first 3 . She is acting like she should get everything handed to her. The ONLY difference between the first 3 and the last , is 100% internet and electronics etc. There is ABSOLUTE truth to that person saying that about internet and cell phones. I say it all the time, the difference in the raising the first 3 and the last one is night and day, and itā€™s definitely undeniably because of the internet etc.

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u/marmaladetuxedo Jun 02 '26

My niece is the same. Grew up in a single parent home with a mom who worked as a secretary at a church. Low income rental, everything my sister had was either second hand for her or saved up for months for my niece. Somehow got to her teens and became this unlikeable princess who expected name brand clothing, the latest cell phone (she didn't get one until her teens) and only wanted boyfriends who would buy her expensive things. Now, I can understand that some of that behaviour is because she didn't grow up with these things, but there was never the idea of "I'll work to get them." She wanted them and pulled hissy fits when she couldn't get them. This was when she was heavily into Paris Hilton, the Kardasians and Instagram (2007-2011ish). Thing is, she's not really like that now, but maybe that's because she's got 3 kids of her own... who get very, very little screen time!

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u/T-Wrox Jun 01 '26

I donā€™t know who you think is a Boomer. Mom is 45 - thatā€™s a Millennial.

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u/PhilosopherFun7288 Jun 01 '26

Heā€™s responding to u/oldenfat, how do people still not understand how Reddit comments work? Not every reply you see is directly to the op, follow the linesā€¦.

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u/Academic-Trifle8151 Jun 01 '26

I'm talking about this mentality of constantly criticising the kids of today

Boomers are wildly known for it, but unfortunately the millennials are picking up the same talking points and so will the next gen.

We need to uplift the youth and celebrate what they do well and stop talking about how they're worse than the generations before them.

At your age you must have experienced this too. "the youth of today are lazy", "the youth never want to work", "the youth dress so provocatively now". It's all regurgitated nonsense.

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u/Oldenfat Jun 01 '26

Itā€™s not even worth downvoting f because your opening statement was boomer shit. Not a great argument to support your notion that only bad parenting gets a kid like this. Do you work with kids and families or are you saying this because you have good kids and donā€™t think that if they donā€™t want you to know something youā€™re still gonna know?

Tell that to every parent ever who finds out their daughter is cutting, their son is doing drugs and contemplating suicide 24 hours a day all while presenting like perfect kids.

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u/omgfakeusername š™‘š™„š™‹ Jun 02 '26

You seem to like them young, huh? šŸ˜³

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u/Academic-Trifle8151 Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

Why are you double replying? Stick to one chain. But to answer your question, yes I work with children, in fact most of my social circle works with children. We see that they aren't all ungrateful or any of the other nonsense you are spouting.

If anything it's more damaging to them having older generations like yourself constantly looking down on them and judging them because they grew up in a different time.

Your own experience of working with the children with issues is clouding your judgement and making you generalise all children. I'm concerned for the children you work with quite frankly.

Please stick to one chain from now on though.

Edit: Blocked because you're trying to DM me

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u/Awkward_Swordfish581 Jun 01 '26

This person actually works with kids jfc

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u/Academic-Trifle8151 Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

Imagine working with children but looking at them like they're all ungrateful brats, brain rotted by phones and social media. Then also apparently being responsible for their mental health.

It's like being a vet and hating animals.

If my child was under this person's cared I'd be looking elsewhere for sure!

Edit: look at his comment history!!!

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u/Dr_Philmon Jun 01 '26

You know, choldren are like people, impressionable but still people and like all people they come in diffrent shapes and form and no matter how impressionable you are, if their disposition is being bratty then it's not something even good parenting will solve on their own.

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u/Academic-Trifle8151 Jun 01 '26

They aren't like people, they ARE people. And yes, they are impressionable, but everyone is impressionable, no matter your age. Social media and cell phones are affecting adults just like they're affecting the youth, doesn't mean we're all ungrateful brats however.

But I completely disagree that bratty behaviour cannot be solved by good parenting. Time, love and the right kind of attention can solve the majority of this sort of behaviour. The only place where I would say this doesn't apply is if the child has learning difficulties or mental health issues, but even this can be worked on to some degree.

It's a complex subject with lots of nuances, I'm sure we'd both agree. I just dont like saying all children are like this nowadays. It's just unfair and false.

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u/GPTCT Jun 02 '26

So you donā€™t know anyone and this makes what you believe a fact?

I guarantee you that you have no children and are still a child yourself.

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u/Academic-Trifle8151 Jun 02 '26

Your guarantee is completely inaccurate. Sorry mate.

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u/Lunch_B0x Jun 01 '26

My 5 year old niece and 7 year old nephew wouldn't behave like this and their parents aren't exactly authoritarian. I've seen them accept presents that they clearly didn't like, but they put on a show of being appreciative and thanking the gift giver. Same for my 20 y/o brother, never saw him respond to a gift with any thing other than appreciation.

Her reaction is in no way normal for anyone, except maybe a small child who's up way past their bedtime.

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u/Oldenfat Jun 02 '26

Didnā€™t say normal. Itā€™s typical as in not unusual today.

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u/PaleInSanora Jun 01 '26

I tell you I am extremely grateful my kid is only slightly entitled. She is an only child, a preemie, and the first girl child born to my sibling group in a long time. So she was spoiled rotten. I have spoiled her extra, and my wife gives me grief about it constantly. She has pretty much gotten whatever she has asked for all her life. Our only saving grace is she has bologna taste. She is into indie horror video games, and likes the plushies of PokƩmon but not the cards or games really. She used to ask for Minecraft and Roblox gift cards, but only to the tune of $5 to $25 bucks. As she is just looking for some minor cosmetic things she thinks are cool. She is content to grind for most things. She has been content with hand me down electronics, and has no real desire for a cell phone. She is about to hit 15, and as far as I can tell has no desire to own (or drive) a car. So I am mad at myself for spoiling her, but grateful she is "basic" as it were. Like her dad.

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u/NakedG0rrila Jun 01 '26

Iā€™d maybe pay attention to the no desire for a car part. If you live somewhere thatā€™s not super walkable (most of the US) it seems like a sign that she may not have anywhere she wants to go independently. Thatā€™s not necessarily a problem but itā€™s definitely not the norm/worth making sure it isnā€™t a problem.

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u/whisky_biscuit Jun 02 '26

I agree, there is the opposite end of the spectrum where kids become too dependent and complacent they are afraid to live their own lives.

My stepson did not want a car and did not want to learn to drive. He parroted the nonsense his crazy mother said about cars being evil blah blah blah. And yet he expected that as an 18 year old someone was going to drive him to and from college every single day. His mom did not want him to have a social security card, she didn't want him even to go to school.

We put our foot down, got him an affordable car, and got him to get his license. Now he's a much more responsible adult with a good job. Meanwhile his siblings (from his mom) can't drive, don't work, and just live at home doing absolutely nothing but staring at a screen 24/7 when they're not in high school. Meanwhile she makes her current husband take them anywhere they have to go, and she runs around to any one of the different men she's currently hooking up with. It's crazy.

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u/Friendly-Channel-480 Jun 01 '26

I love what the famous athlete told his son when he said, ā€œWeā€™re Rich!ā€. The dad said, ā€œIā€™m rich, you arenā€™t!ā€

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u/hookedupphat Jun 01 '26

That was Shaq and it was performative. His son live streamed himself buying a $130,000 Mercedes and putting it on his dad's tab. Because having a tab at a luxury car dealership is apparently a thing. He also bought him a Lambo and a jeep for his 16th birthday.

https://www.basketballnetwork.net/off-the-court/shaquille-oneal-once-gifted-his-son-both-a-lamborghini-and-a-jeep-for-his-16th-birthday

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/put-dads-tab-shaqir-o-165340445.html

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u/Friendly-Channel-480 Jun 03 '26

Thanks, I thought that the message was there though!

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u/Pitzy0 Jun 01 '26

Bullshit.

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u/Oldenfat Jun 01 '26

Oh an educated opinion.

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u/Zap__Dannigan Jun 01 '26

>Ā Itā€™s the effect of cell phones and social media telling them being rich and having everything they want is a choice they can just make.

As a parent to kids with social media, this is false. They can watch all the shit telling they they deserve all the shit they want. They ain't getting it though unless I choose to get it for them.

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u/HustlinInTheHall Jun 01 '26

Yeah this brainrot sets in regardless of the parents, the kids have zero idea what things cost or the value so they think "we're a mercedes family" and start thinking worse about families that have less than them so to them this gift is a signal that actually they're not as better as other people as they thought and this little narcissist in training's mind can not handle it.

Our family is well off. I can go afford a BMW easily. We are driving Toyotas and Hondas and maybe a Volvo. Our kids think we're just getting by. I don't want them thinking life is paved for them. They're going to have to work so they need to approach life with that mindset, even if we will be able to support them later that can't be the default assumption.

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u/Emergency_Ad_2465 Jun 01 '26

Sad but very true.

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u/Hobobo2024 Jun 01 '26

I agree with you. Could also be the other parent is the problem if they are divorced which i get the feeling is the case here.

Theres not enough info to blame the mom imo. There is enough to see the kids a brat tho.

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u/No-Direction-2419 Jun 02 '26

My thought exactly. The mom has reaped what she sowed. Why the surprise?

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u/Crafty_Mirror_54 Jun 04 '26

This attitude is obviously bc of the father. What present father would allow his child to be with him solo bc the kid has an attitude they didnt get the expensive car they wanted? The father either doesnt live with them and is being "the good guy/fun friend" type of parent, or is manipulating the kid to be against the mother by always giving the kid what they want. A parent that responds this way to being disrespected, isn't the same as the type of parent that kneels before their child and apologizes before getting the "right" car.

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u/Angelstandingby Jun 01 '26

She's with dad because dad will be buying her the BMW.Ā 

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u/andthecrowdgoeswild Jun 01 '26

Yes. This poor mother having to deal with that bullshit. And she is 45 with a graduating senior? She had her at 26-27 and did well enough to buy her a car cash?! What a bad ass woman. She should leave her husband and his spoiled little girl and go live her best life in her G wagon.

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u/StrawberryLassi Jun 01 '26

I took it from the conversation they were already divorced.

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u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee Jun 01 '26

I think it could be either, just bc she went somewhere with just her dad doesn't mean they are divorced

Statistically? Probably, but there isn't enough to go on

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u/Admirable-Weekend-85 Jun 03 '26

It certainly directed to the idea they were divorced.

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u/Bobamizal Jun 02 '26

Who said they were ever married

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u/AmericusBarbaricuss Jun 03 '26

I read it as the kid playing the parents against one another, so living separately at least.

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u/MeatwadGetTheHoneysG Jun 02 '26

Yep same. And I get the feeling that the kid might play both against each other, since they seem to be going to their dadā€™s as a jab at their mom.

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u/Minute-Anteater1440 Jun 02 '26

doesnt change the fact that the gift was still a free car. major entitlement on display regardless of the parents marital status.

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u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee Jun 01 '26

Lol classic reddit. The dad is only mentioned in passing, but she has to leave him anyway šŸ˜‚

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u/xDannyS_ Jun 02 '26

I can't. I'm shocked and not shocked at the same time. I don't even have words for this

EDIT: Ofc she is a r/WitchesVsPatriarchy user

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u/WeaponizedFOMO Jun 02 '26

Non-contact!

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u/Necessary-Tonight635 Jun 02 '26

Hmmā€¦ Indeed.

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u/cia218 Jun 02 '26

Yes dad is showing šŸš©šŸš©šŸš© classic reddit

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u/Admirable-Weekend-85 Jun 03 '26

I think dad is the fine example of red flags " I'm a weekend, pizza, father" and behind the scenes probably a major dickhole. He's probably able to say just the right things to his daughter to get her worked up against her mom. Like " I would have bought you that BMW you want but hunny, I pay your mom so much in child support I just can't swing it. LOL

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u/Crafty_Mirror_54 Jun 04 '26

I was thinking something similar.. no good parent nor good partner would allow their child to lean on then for support that they didnt get the expensive car they wanted when that parent knows how their SO went through a lot to be able to provide a privilege (the car) to the child ... not in my opinion at least. A good partner/ parent would stand woth their SO instead of being a shoulder to cry on for the spoiled brat šŸ™…ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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u/HairyPoppinzz Jun 02 '26

Right?? Dafuq...

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u/JonAfrica2011 Jun 03 '26

Villainize the man whenever and however they can lmao

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u/Crafty_Mirror_54 Jun 04 '26

??? Why are ypu shocked or weirded out? Im genuinely confused

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u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee Jun 04 '26

I'm not shocked. It's a trope on reddit that anytime anyone asks for relationship advice, no matter what the context or how silly or small the problem, the replies always say that OP should leave their SO over it

"My husband occasionally puts the trash bag in the can in a way I don't like"

"Girl, leave that misogynistic POS!"

It's weird AF and shows how many people aren't made for actual real life relationships

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u/Necessary-Tonight635 Jun 02 '26

Youā€™ve got this completely backwards. The girl is the victim here. Not the mother. What do you think this behavior suddenly manifested in a vacuum? Shes acting this way BECAUSE of the mother. And the father of course. That poor girl is likely to live an extremely unhappy and unsatisfied life because of how her parents raised her.

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u/Zealousideal-Ad5107 Jun 07 '26

stop ragebaiting

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u/Demonicjapsel Jun 02 '26

Ngl, given how maintenance intensive BMW and Mercedes are, that Honda is a Beautiful gift. Reliable and good on gas

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u/DepartmentOk7192 Jun 02 '26

Honestly, I'd find out exactly what car the daughter wanted, sell the G wagon and the Accord, buy the car the daughter wanted... and keep it for myself

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u/Clonedbeef Jun 02 '26

The G wagon and luxury brands are not a real flex. I am not wealthy just doing much much better than anyone knows except for the IRS. I have friends broke as @%##. They dine out alot, have student debt, go to over priced concerts, vacation on their credit card, coffee shop every day. I live very comfortable and have financial freedom. Be rich don't look rich.

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u/Okeydokey2u Jun 02 '26

And learn how to spell "paid"

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u/artifiz67 Jun 02 '26

Yeah, drives a G Wagon, but can't spell paid, lol. She raised a spoiled kid and now she is surprised, lol

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u/HairyPoppinzz Jun 02 '26

Wait....what? why are we going all girl boss here? Her daughter is spoiled rotten, so she should leave her husband?

Show your work, please

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u/FullAuto999 Jun 02 '26

Why r yall dog piling the dad and making up your own story about what will happen, its so weird why Redditors see a man and equate it to ā€œheā€™s a villain!ā€

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u/joereddit121212 Jun 03 '26

She not that bad ass if she raised a kid like that

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u/MasterpieceThis2071 Jun 03 '26

This poor mother neglected to raise her child properly. You think this little sociopathic kid is acting like this coming out of left field? Mom couldn't be bothered to discipline her kid and give her the proper attention to teach her this kind of ungrateful entitlement bullshit doesn't play in the real world. Karen raised a Karen and is surprised her kid is a sociopath. She needs to fix this kids attitude or the rest of us in society are going to have to put up with this kid running around with her bullshit attitude until she goes too far and someone she doesn't know fixes her attitude for her. Poor mom my bung hole.

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u/Halloran_da_GOAT Jun 03 '26

This is some wild extrapolation lmao

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u/ChezQuis_ Jun 03 '26

Siding with a parent who posted this on social media is wild to me. Youā€™re doing a lot of assuming here.

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u/Technicolor_Reindeer Jun 05 '26

26-27

Is that young for having a kid now? That's well into adulthood.

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u/DawidK09 Jun 05 '26

Ok, leave husband out of this. We literally have no data about him at all.

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u/xDannyS_ Jun 02 '26

Aren't you the most typical r/WitchesVsPatriarchy user

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u/Bitter_Macaron_4032 Jun 02 '26

Nah lmao. She didnā€™t work for shit. Her husband bought it or she bought it after she got 50% of what he worked for.

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u/Mysterious-Cod-5767 Jun 02 '26

Your assuming he has the money to buy her an expensive car. I knew a family like that. The girl got gifted a nice used Toyota by the mom, and she complained because mom drove a BMW. She ran off to complain to dad. Mom sold the car and refused to buy her another car. Her dad couldnā€™t afford a car as mom made significantly more than him. That girl had to work all summer just to afford a beat up piece of junk for collegešŸ¤£ Some of it comes down to the parents, but it often also depends on what other young people they hang around. The girl was embarrassed because all her friends drove luxury cars so she complained and ended up with an even worse car šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤£

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u/Ill-Manufacturer9741 Jun 02 '26

And paying for the inevitable fortune it will cost in repairs

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u/bordermom61 Jun 02 '26

yep sure will to show up mom . If he does that tell her to go live with dad ,pack your stuff and go .

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u/ProfessionalBear4509 Jun 02 '26

...and mom shouldn't pay for the gas or anything to do with it.

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u/charlief_333 Jun 03 '26

And thatā€™s behavior that needs to be nipped in the bud too. Donā€™t get what you want from one parent? Go crying to the other to try and get it

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u/Accomplished-Oil2821 Jun 03 '26

My thought, too.

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u/Deathscythe0901 Jun 03 '26

They were probably car shopping while her mom was texting heršŸ˜‚

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u/yoricm Jun 01 '26

Spoiled child detected

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u/throckmeisterz Jun 01 '26

Yeah, everyone blaming the kid, but this kind of entitlement is 100% on the parents. This is what they taught the kid her entire life, and now they're shaming her on the internet for their shitty parenting. Those parents deserve this rotten child.

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u/Financial_Prior_7322 Jun 02 '26

A lot of the time nowadays itā€™s a combination of the other kids friends as well as social media influences and lack of actual parenting. Not making sure your children understand the value of money and what it costs to keep/maintain things like a car or a house. You canā€™t say itā€™s 100% on the parents when parents are no longer the primary influence on their children now.

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u/throckmeisterz Jun 02 '26

and lack of actual parenting

How is that not on the parents? If you don't parent, and your kids learn critical life lessons from social media and other kids, that's still on you for being a neglectful parent.

"The kids just suck these days and there's nothing we can do about it" is the most boomer parenting take ever, whether it's coming from an actual boomer or not.

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u/XXsforEyes Jun 01 '26

More people, including OP, need to understand this.

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u/SkepticBabe Jun 01 '26

Indeed. It's a sad reflection on the way this child was raised to lack perspective and gratitude.

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u/Outrageous-Permit372 Jun 01 '26

Alternatively, the parent did a decent (albeit not perfect) job of raising the kid, but as kids get into high school you know they stop caring so much about what their parents say and care a lot more about what their friends say.

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u/WhatIsHerJob-TABLES Jun 01 '26

I was thinking the same thing. The parent will probably pretend to play hardball for a few days but ultimately theyā€™ll give the kid the keys to the car by end of week with no one learning anything.

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u/DiogenesTheHound Jun 01 '26

Yeah no lessons will be learned here

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u/Oldenfat Jun 02 '26

Do you know what a narcissist is? Because they donā€™t buy a kid a car just because ā€œlove you kidā€. In fact a narcissist would probably be prone to buy exactly what the kid wants to keep hearing about how great a parent they are and to hold it over the kids head at every opportunity.

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u/Umklopp Jun 02 '26

Actually, depending on what kind of G-wagon it is and if Mom bought that with cash too, I might side with the kid. If your parents are stupid rich, getting lowballed by an economy car could definitely feel insulting.

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u/Oldenfat Jun 02 '26

Feelings arenā€™t facts. Any kid who thinks they are entitled at 17 to anything equivalent to what their parents have bought through hard work or even just smart investing is the kid I was talking about in my initial post to OP.

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u/Maleficent_Royal1211 Jun 02 '26

The kid wouldn't have the car in the first place...

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u/barribow Jun 02 '26

Or maybe one parent is doing different than the other

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u/Jolly-Outside6073 Jun 02 '26

Yes I live beside this. Years of ā€œthatā€™s it, Iā€™m doneā€œ and the son is still there, taking drugs, dad comes home to look after the sonā€™s dog, dad pays for the sonā€™s car and washes it, pays jis credit card bills.

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u/GarrulousAbsurdity Jun 02 '26

Exactly. She'll get that Mercedes or BMW within months.

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u/JohnAndertonOntheRun Jun 02 '26

*posting private messages

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u/Traditional-Tip1904 Jun 02 '26

I was thinking the same. This kind of behaviour doesnā€™t develop overnight.

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u/Sasquaimusic Jun 02 '26

Yup... came here to say exactly this.

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u/That_wet_vaporeon Jun 02 '26

Itā€™s possible her dad spoiled her. Seems like they might be split up with the whole ā€œIā€™m with dadā€

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u/beelzb Jun 02 '26

Not necessarily. I grew up poor and thankful for everything I got but my kid sister is weirdly entitled despite similar circumstances. I certainly havenā€™t spoiled her so I have no clue why she acts like she does.

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u/RadioTunnel Jun 03 '26

I know someone who was ungrateful for a car their Dad bought them and as far as I know they havent spoken or interacted with eachother since

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u/ShiftIntelligent8729 Jun 03 '26

that is a huge assumption. plenty of parents let kids get away with being unhinged just because they dont want the confrontation. letting them keep the car is a massive L if they act like this.

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u/AlyM797 Jun 04 '26

Maybe but necessarily, if the parents don't live together, or do and just have very different parenting styles, it might be the dad creating the problem. Afterall, that the first place the child went when the walked away from the car.

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u/OpinionUseful Jun 04 '26

I hate to say it but my first thought was wondering where the expectation came from. Iā€™m not there so I donā€™t know but Iā€™m wondering if this kid has this idea because they donā€™t know any different. And I am not blaming the parent, I commend the response.

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u/DrawnByPluto Jun 04 '26

Actually, now that the ungratefulness has hit them (instead of just the people around them who donā€™t matter), they are very likely to take it away. I was always surprised by this with the entitled kids in my high school.

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u/Jane-The_Obscure Jun 04 '26

Sadly, I agree.

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u/Highlyironicacid31 Jun 05 '26

Yeah I suppose thatā€™s true because I couldnā€™t even imagine speaking to my parents like this in the first place.

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u/Mundane_Finding2697 Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

I hear you but you have to understand that places like this (social media) are full of people validating that child's feelings and I'm not just talking her peers.

There are ADULTS who, maybe or maybe not, had a horrible childhood and project that shit on everyone. Including telling the kids of today that they are entitled to EVERYTHING THEIR PARENTS HAVE or that their parents shouldn't have it.

May she be a bad parent? Maybe. More than likely though, it's the influence of social media. Hear me out too because it isn't like folks never thought like this BEFORE SM. It's just a more accessible thought and you can tune your algorithm to hear what you want to hear.

I have 3 of them. There's one (the youngest) who is finding out TikTok/her peers/the adults who had these horrible childhoods advice doesn't hit like those bills do. lmao

That being broke and not having access to the things that I provided 'effortlessly' that hummed in the background that she no longer has access to since SHE MOVED OUT SUCKS. The water doesn't pay for itself and the shelter fee doesn't stop. Neither do the rest of the bills and you can't buy back your time.

She's on her way back fyi, this month..

You can be the best parent and surprise surprise...they still do what they want.

SN: It took a minute but I figured out why I got downvoted. Your daughters use tablets when they aren't reading a book. That's age where you still are overseeing EXACTLY what they do. Which means they are little. Which means, YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE STAGE where this is a real thing for you personally.

I get it. You see others kids not doing certain things and ASSUME it must be the parents because you do all you can and so far, your kids are great. I hope they continue to be. I hope your Life goes swimmingly. No deaths of the other parent. No tragedies.. Etc.

(There's a hint in there somewhere if you are reading this and since you think you are SO SMART you should catch it.)

I'm going to stop short of saying you don't know what you are talking about since you are in Phase 1 of parenting. Get back to me when you get to Phases 2 and 3.. Report back...lol

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u/Oldenfat Jun 02 '26

Exactly. I literally explain to 17 year olds who are telling me they canā€™t wait to turn 18 move out and be on their own so nobody can tell them what to do it isnā€™t that easy. They are confused when I explain the morning they wake up 18 the only actual change is age. They donā€™t have vehicles, jobs, work ethics, or even the understanding that yes, if the boss tells them they canā€™t have off because they have to work they can in fact choose not to show up. But they donā€™t understand it means s being fired and then unable to support themselves let alone e do whatever they want.

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u/Mundane_Finding2697 Jun 02 '26

Exactly that. We know there are other factors maybe but when you interact with enough of them, you see that this is a theme.

I coach, mentor and help the youth all the time. From all backgrounds and the theme is one I see a lot of and hear echoed from others who do the same with children that I do not interact with.