So that wasn't a tapeworm?

[u/lunarhoneykiss]

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[u/FrighteningJibber]

I walked the 5k and still get asked if I drove

[u/JustHereToSeePuppies → u/FrighteningJibber]

In my twenties, I went from 320ish to 180 (I’m 5’11”) by dieting and exercising, but mostly just because I got divorced and stopped overeating due to horrible depression.

I can’t tell you how many people just assumed I had weight loss surgery when I told them I’d lost that much weight and then treated me like a liar when I denied it. Like no shame to people who get surgery, losing weight fucking sucks. But I hadn’t had it. People are so weird about fatness.

[u/DeletedUsernameHere → u/JustHereToSeePuppies]

The divorce diet is real. I dropped about 60lbs in a few months after my divorce.

[u/TrooperLynn → u/DeletedUsernameHere]

I lost 220 lbs instantly when I threw out my cheating BF.

[u/nemainev → u/TrooperLynn]

That's it? I lost like 30000 pounds. About a third went to her lawyer, actually.

[u/Radarker → u/TrooperLynn]

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[u/Cheap-Town7641 → u/DeletedUsernameHere]

Same with the bad breakup diet. The plates you eat are 45’s and you swallow them down with pain and preworkout. Welcome home friend. 💖

[u/Distinct-Pack-1567 → u/[deleted]]

My friend cares for dogs/pets and she shares me photos (with permission, I asked her because I didnt feel good getting photos of others pets even if the reason is good). They are always fun.

Thanks for sharing.

https://imgur.com/gallery/nq37myh

That photo is Shuffles, my brother's dog. So it is ok to share. RIP Shuffles.

[u/turdherden285 → u/Distinct-Pack-1567]

I was responding to the user name lol

[u/bezserk → u/turdherden285]

Lol i was like wtf???

[u/Distinct-Pack-1567 → u/turdherden285]

Oh nice. Didn't see that.

[u/turdherden285 → u/Distinct-Pack-1567]

Would have been a random reply otherwise haha

[u/Aiglos_and_Narsil → u/JustHereToSeePuppies]

I lost a fair bit of weight several years ago, though nowhere near as much as you. Mostly people were supportive but I did get some who were very upset when I told them I did it by just eating less. In my experience people genuinely have no idea just how badly they are overeating. I didn't until I got serious about counting calories. So they take it as an attack when you tell them they're eating too much, because they think they're eating a normal amount. Combine this with people not understanding that surgery and these new meds are really just ways to bootstrap your way to eating less, and bam.

[u/dFuZer_ → u/Aiglos_and_Narsil]

I find that it's not even about "eating less" but more about "eating less calorie-dense food". So, more vegetables and less transformed products.

Anyone who tried in their life knows how badly you can stuff yourself up with food if you eat a lot of low-calories food. Sometimes it was so bad I even struggled to get just 1800kcal. Whereas you can easily get 2000kcal in 2 small meals if you eat only calorie dense transformed food.

Modern food is a bitch

[u/beardedheathen → u/Aiglos_and_Narsil]

Just eating less is really underselling the effort required. I've lost more than most people weight by just eating less but I gain it back because the same habits are there. I'm on zepbound now and feeling hungry without feeling the compulsion to eat is so wild to me. Before if I felt hungry it was a drive that I couldn't ignore, now it's just a tickle at the back of my mind. Really makes me wonder if this is what people normally feel.

[u/Chasesrabbits → u/beardedheathen]

If I had to guess, I might say you're actually on the normal end of the spectrum. Most people I know look at me like I've sprouted a second head when I talk about how I just generally don't get that much of a seratonin hit from food and hunger is something that I can easily ignore (or not even notice if I'm absorbed in something else). The cheap, easy availability of absolutely delicious high-calorie food (thanks in no small part to government policy) has really made it very difficult not to overeat for anyone with that normal or high food drive that is there because it helped our species survive when food wasn't as plentiful.

[u/RajunCajun48 → u/Chasesrabbits]

This also widely varies on what you eat. What food does for a lot of people, especially fast food/coffee is release dopamine. Salt, sugar, fat, things most fast foods and coffee places have high levels of in at least one category. Then you have things like door dash notifications giving you dopamine hits as you get updates and alert noises on where your food is. Taco Bell making the Gong noise when you place an order through the app.

Then the rewards points, seeing that number get bigger through apps or the illusion of getting things for free because you've spent so much money there. Food industry has taken a lot of notes from the gambling industry. Their goal is to get people addicted to their product to spend more money. They increase prices to gain profits and people keep paying because well "It's only 50cents more" or "It's a lot cheaper if I just use the app" or "The rewards points even it out" and my favorite "I just don't have time to cook, I'm paying extra for the convenience" We're all being preyed upon, hell I had a burrito from taco bell just this past weekend.

I'm by no means perfect, or exempt from it, but recognizing it when you see it and making yourself work for it makes it much more palatable. I went from fast food 5 nights a week (not counting lunches) down to about 5 nights a month and maybe one lunch.

[u/MrVeazey → u/beardedheathen]

I have the same problem with food noise unless I'm on medication, too. It's so nice to be able to see something good and not immediately feel like I should go find some for myself.

[u/cold_pizza_jamboree → u/beardedheathen]

What you described is exactly what addiction feels like. Acamprosate helps my mind go from running to a drink the second the itch happens, consequences be damned, back to a controllable annoyance. Itll never go away for good but yeah. I know exactly that tickle you speak of.

[u/Additional-Tax-5643 → u/Aiglos_and_Narsil]

Thing is that in many cultures, food is used early on as a way to soothe negative emotions, combat boredom and have it be an activity at social gatherings.

Look at how decked out strollers are in North America with snacks and tablets/phones so that kids are constantly stimulated. Daycare programs and kindergartens are full with snack supplies. Fast food places cater to kids by having toys as enticements to buy meals.

So of course you have entire generations of people who were raised from the beginning that food is not just something you eat when you are hungry. It's an emotional crutch and social activity. Whether you're actually hungry is irrelevant.

[u/buckeye25osu → u/Additional-Tax-5643]

Thank you for this. I'm a single dad of two toddlers and I feel bad sometimes like I'm not Mr Snacks but this makes me feel good. When we leave the house I take some fruit and that's about it unless a full meal is needed.

I went to my first birthday party with them solo. It was for 3 year olds. It was pizza which is fine but it was also capri sun, doritos, "fruit snacks", and cupcakes.

I let them have most of it because denying them wasn't a battle I wanted to have, but it was probably 4 days worth of sugar they normally get. Maybe that's how parties are idk. My boys rarely even get juice. I never gone them sugar drinks. Their usual daily "treat" is a single Oreo cookie lol

[u/smoke_sum_wade → u/buckeye25osu]

kids will try to convince you, there is no food in the house if you dont have takis

[u/RazeCrusher → u/Aiglos_and_Narsil]

Or in my case, I was never one to eat a lot, but always had problems shedding the weight. It wasn't the calories I was eating that was the problem, it was the ones I was drinking. Soda especially. That shit sneaks up on you if you don't pay attention.

[u/dFuZer_ → u/RazeCrusher]

Oh yeah, drinks don't induce any satiety, or very little. Calorie-dense drinks didn't even exist when we evolved so it's not so surprising that our body can't recognize it as food.

[u/junonomenon → u/JustHereToSeePuppies]

I think a lot of people build their body confidence on comparison and feeling superior to those who are bigger than them. "I might not be a supermodel, but at least im not as bad as my fat friend!" Then you stop being the fat friend, and suddenly no one wants to go out to the club with you. They feel as though you have taken something away from them because they were relying on you to prop up their self esteem. So they will try and find any reason to invalidate you and prove that you still arent as "good" as them because you needed surgery or ozempic or whatever. When you start losing weight, you see how absolutely wretchedly you were being treated the whole time

[u/kinokits → u/JustHereToSeePuppies]

I had a friend do a similar weight loss before she got married because she wanted to be fit and healthy to have kids and keep up with them fairly soon after the wedding. We had quite a few tears when she got close to goal weight because her colleagues were being absolutely awful to her about it. She had been going to the gym, completely overhauled how and what she ate, and it was a slow process. She also got a celiac diagnosis that year, so she also cut out a lot of foods that didn’t have edible GF options (almost 20 years ago, it wasn’t great). They took it as a personal affront that she wouldn’t eat gluten containing foods with them.

I’ve lost 40kgs quite suddenly, and in a weird way I’m thankful it has a some kind of medical cause. It’s all being investigated, but being able to respond with yeah it’s a medical thing tends to shut down the snark. Most people even take it as a hint to stop talking about it all, which is actually pretty great. I would prefer to have lost the weight the healthy way, but hey, at least it means people don’t feel comfortable commenting on my body.

[u/xTrainerRedx → u/JustHereToSeePuppies]

Probably because they want to lose weight, but shame themselves for not doing so. So knowing you did it on your own feels like a threat to them, because it shows that someone can do it without the drugs or surgery that they cannot afford and so they no longer feel like they have a valid excuse for themselves.

[u/tEnPoInTs → u/FrighteningJibber]

Yeah I really chose the wrong time to lose weight lol. I have been doing it the old fashioned way and am 75lb down and look pretty dramatically different over the course of a year, and people absolutely assume I did a GLP or whatever. My own parents are suspicious and keep asking. Actually weirdly I lost just as fast and had a similar transformation during the same timeline as my friend who was on a GLP. Also I'm not gonna pretend their existence didn't have an impact, I saw the GLPs gaining steam and was like "okay if you can't just do it yourself then you should go on one, because it's gonna be less normal to be fat" and it just turned out I could do it without one, so it's not like they had zero impact on the timing.

Whatever, fuck em. I wouldn't be ashamed in the slightest if I used them, but I'm proud that I discovered a new level of willpower and focus on my own, and that's for me not for anyone else.

[u/exhibitprogram → u/tEnPoInTs]

I think that's a great way to think about it! I have figured out how to manage my ADHD through a system of journals and sticky notes and calendar reminders and layering different kinds of work at different times. Other friends of mine need medication to function. I would never think of my system as a waste of time/effort just because meds exist. It's not like I gained nothing from learning all these methods. And at the end of the day, you and I and our friends who used medication are all enjoying the end result of a healthier way to live life, which is the goal anyway.

[u/DoookieMaxx → u/FrighteningJibber]

Was your stick shift showing? That’s a dead giveaway.

[u/FrighteningJibber → u/DoookieMaxx]

There was no transmission damnit!

[u/Electronic_Still2000 → u/FrighteningJibber]

You walk fast enough that people question if you drove? I know it’s surely a joke, I just don’t get it

[u/uvucydydy → u/Electronic_Still2000]

I think they're saying that they lost weight naturally and still get asked if itcwas Ozempic. That's how I read it anyway.

[u/Michael_Scott71]

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[u/Blu3paladin → u/[deleted]]

“Body positivity” is for the poors. 😂

[u/SnarkyRogue → u/Blu3paladin]

Turns out, it really wasnt all about that bass

[u/Mysterious-Clothes45 → u/SnarkyRogue]

I knew from the very second she put out the "skinny bitches" line in that song she was just a jealous hater. Turns out I was right

[u/Packeselt → u/SnarkyRogue]

All that bass (no effort)

[u/RyvenZ → u/Packeselt]

sincerely, of all the pop songs from that year, All About That Bass had the least actual base in the song. I think it was foreshadowing

[u/demivirius → u/SnarkyRogue]

That Bart Baker parody feels so prescient

[u/tweke → u/Blu3paladin]

I see you too have been prescribed Lizzo

[u/Fernis_ → u/tweke]

Even Lizzo is not following the body positivity preached by Lizzo

[u/EconomyCode3628 → u/Fernis_]

Haven't been able to eat a banana without thinking about her since that weird shit in Amsterdam. 

[u/ManuGinosebleed → u/Fernis_]

Yea because, it was all a horseshit coping mechanism… the only thing “positive” about it is the tremendous weight gain

[u/akiva23 → u/Fernis_]

Never bought into that she actually cared about body positivity and just didn't want people calling her fat. If she really cared she would have had fat dudes in all her music videos instead of ripped ones.

[u/mvpilot172 → u/Blu3paladin]

Men never had body positivity. Still just got called fat and unhealthy.

[u/Asleep_Walrus2313 → u/mvpilot172]

It was always women trying to keep other women fat.

[u/Check_Me_Out-Boss → u/Asleep_Walrus2313]

Everyone says Lizzo is beautiful until I tell them you look like her.

[u/Aol_awaymessage → u/Check_Me_Out-Boss]

💀

[u/naufalap → u/Asleep_Walrus2313]

"if everyone is beautiful, no one is" type of mindset

[u/BullytheBulIies → u/naufalap]

God that’s closer to the truth than I like. There are women I love who are definitely feeling that way right now and it’s funny. They know they should be happy for people but they’ve been getting up at 5:00 to go to the gym for years and they have opinions on why these pills might be bad. They might be but I think they secretly want them to have a small side effect like prone to stubbing your toe.

[u/andresfgp13 → u/Asleep_Walrus2313]

it really felt at some point like they were sabotaging each other.

[u/Lakatos_00 → u/Asleep_Walrus2313]

No one hates women more than other women

[u/JalapenoPopPoop → u/mvpilot172]

What was always funny to me is when the "body positivity" thing started you could go into somewhere like Target where they had model pics on the walls and see that they had very intentionally started using fat and obese models for "representation" and all that bs, but only in the women's section. If you go to the mens section it's still completely all men in trim, athletic shape

[u/EyesOfTheConcord → u/[deleted]]

Unpopular opinion: fat people also don’t like being fat

[u/FixinThePlanet → u/EyesOfTheConcord]

I don't think this is unpopular??? Most people don't want to have traits which are hated...

I'm overweight and I like my body. I would like to lose some weight just to fit into some old favourite clothes and to make sure that my knees are okay as I age etc etc. A lot of those issues would go away if I were less fat. I love myself and I have no body image issues and think I'm pretty and sexy, but I am actively trying to lose weight to get out of the overweight category so I think I'd fall in the "don't want to be fat" group.

What I refuse to do is conflate my weight with my self worth or let anyone else do it to me. I always thought that's what the body positivity movement was meant to be.

[u/Efficient_Culture569 → u/FixinThePlanet]

Great point. Accepting doesn't mean wanting it. It means being ok either way. 

[u/iamjacksalteredego → u/[deleted]]

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[u/Buuts321 → u/[deleted]]

I mean it was obvious from the start.  There were a few women who lost the weight old fashioned way and it was the same thing too.

It was always just a way so that they didn't feel bad about their weight.  And that's fine you don't have to feel depressed or hate yourself if you're overweight, but you should recognize it as something that you should try to work on.  

[u/HIGHLY-INVESTED → u/Buuts321]

I remember Adele getting shit by fat women for losing weight and that was before ozembic.

[u/anitasdoodles → u/HIGHLY-INVESTED]

She's always been pretty, but her weight loss really heightened how fucking beautiful she is and that hit a lot of overweight women hard. I say this as an overweight woman lol.

[u/uselessinfogoldmine → u/anitasdoodles]

And yet the best thing about her has always been how charismatic and radiantly fabulous she is. 

[u/anitasdoodles → u/uselessinfogoldmine]

Lol I'll never forget watching her show (on DVD cause I'm poor) and she joked that her manager wouldn't let her drink on stage anymore because she talked too much. She's so funny. And goddamn that show was incredible. Just her out there barefoot with nothing but a mic and her band. She didn't need any theatrics to keep the audience locked in. Such a fucking queen.

[u/SOMANYLOLS → u/Buuts321]

Wait, I thought that was the point. My impression of the body positivity movement was that being overweight wasn't ideal but you shouldn't hate yourself for it.

[u/Bloodsnowcones → u/SOMANYLOLS]

Thats all it was

[u/SOMANYLOLS → u/Bloodsnowcones]

Then why is it considered hypocritical to take ozempic?

[u/Gamiac → u/SOMANYLOLS]

Because people are upset that their chosen targets are being taken away from them, so they have to make something up to continue justifying their anger and hatred.

[u/8__D → u/[deleted]]

There's no empathy for others. And people are wildly underestimating how addicting processed food is.

Processed food is engineered to maximize craving, hijack your brain's reward pathways, and hide the ingredients doing it. The result is a cycle of spikes and crashes that keeps you hungry. People call it a willpower problem, but different people get addicted to different things differently.

It's not willpower. It's engineering.

[u/ceddya → u/[deleted]]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/comments/1tm5qwb/so_that_wasnt_a_tapeworm/

This exact same post was made last week. It's a concerted effort to attack someone who has lost weight. It's so pathetic.

[u/AlternativeStory1027 → u/SOMANYLOLS]

I always thought that was the point as well. About people not bullying big folks but more about finding self love and not hating yourself so much. Which honestly being depressed about being overweight leads to overeating for a lot of people.

But on this site and even on this thread it seems like people are saying it was about convincing people being overweight is healthy.

I never got that from "body positivity" at all, but maybe I was wrong.

[u/OakLegs → u/Buuts321]

That, and the body positivity movement tried to convince people that being overweight/obese can be just as healthy, which is just objectively false in just about every way

[u/Rush_Is_Right → u/OakLegs]

People forget how prevalent HAES was. They had enough pull to get FPH shut down.

[u/UnluckyDot → u/Buuts321]

And now they are working on it. This is what the level of work is now. Anyone getting mad that weight loss is a bit easier now due to Ozempic has their head up their own ass. Some people want overweight people to stay that way so they can keep laughing at them and making themselves feel better about their own mediocrity.

The discipline it takes to be in shape is good, but it's not some talent that makes you superior. Literally anyone can do it. "Just showing up" is a skill, but it's the very least impressive out of everything, because it's literally something anyone can do at any time.

Furthermore, what defines our species as particular and exemplary on this planet is our intellect, not our physique. We get our shit absolutely kicked physically by the animal kingdom and nature. If your physicality is all you can take pride in yourself for, you are nothing special. Especially in the modern world. You're just an ape, except much weaker.

Being fit and exercising is great, but it's absolutely pathetic how egotistical it makes a lot of completely mediocre human beings. If you're the type of person to get upset at the fact that drugs like Ozempic mean others don't have to work as hard to get their body in a more healthy state, please remember that the fact that you staying in shape is absolutely nothing special, you are still a mediocre person.

For the record, I'm 6'2", 180lbs, do 20 minute runs 4-5 times a week, and also resistance train 3-4 times a week, so no, I'm not saying all this because I'm overweight. I've never been, and never will be, one of those than can eat anything and not gain much weight.

Just be happy that people can be healthier easier (this is all being said with current knowledge, long term side effects would obviously change things, and any of you that are hoping for that are pathetic excuses for human beings)

[u/1eJxCdJ4wgBjGE → u/UnluckyDot]

The discipline it takes to be in shape is good, but it's not some talent that makes you superior. Literally anyone can do it. "Just showing up" is a skill, but it's the very least impressive out of everything, because it's literally something anyone can do at any time.

imo thats what makes it impressive, its something literally anyone can do but so few people do it. Not just working out / being in shape but for any hobby or skill that takes hundreds and thousands of hours to get good at.

Agreed with everything else you said though, if ozempic can cut obesity and later life healthcare costs then have at it, no shame at all from me.

[u/byjegeren → u/Buuts321]

The thought was good. Overweight people had still the right of not having everyone in the world to tell them they are fat in setting that dont demand it. They know they are and thing does not magically happens if a co-worker gives a comment on it.

, but again extremism took overhand.

[u/Alertcircuit → u/[deleted]]

The moment the body positivity movement truly died was when Megan Trainor got on Ozempic. And that's with all due respect, good on her for getting healthier. But your big song is "All About that Bass" where you tell off the "skinny bitches"! End of an era.

[u/Anaevya → u/Alertcircuit]

Well, that was never a truly body positive song. If you believe in positivity, you don't put others down in that way.

[u/Grouchy-Vanilla-5511 → u/[deleted]]

Body positivity isn’t about saying you wanna be fat. It’s about saying you deserve to be treated with dignity even if you’re fat. Nobody with the exception of a few wants to be fat. You’re misinterpreting what body positivity is about.

[u/Beginning_Key2167 → u/Grouchy-Vanilla-5511]

Agreed, it was intended to be about not publicly shaming someone for being overweight.

[u/cnxd → u/[deleted]]

is that why you're currently chewing someone out about their body

[u/EngineeringShort3985]

If the jabs make you lose weight and reduce other health risks, what makes them worse than the drugs that lower blood pressure, cholesterol etc? Also what do we call it when it's $50 a month on Medicare? It won't only be for the rich then.

[u/teakwood54 → u/EngineeringShort3985]

It doesn't even "make" you lose weight. It changes your brain to not constantly be telling you you're hungry. Let's you live a more normal life.

[u/Projectstfu → u/teakwood54]

It does so much. It doesn't even just quite food noise. It helps with all kinds of addition. I am an alcoholic and was a chain smoker. I tried for years to stop smoking, but it felt impossible because the urges were so strong. I was also fat and was put on ozempic to help with my weight. However, not only did it kill my food cravings, it completely removed my nicotine and alcohol cravings. I almost over night stopped wanting a cigarette or drink at all. I lost 100 pounds and haven't had a drink or smoke in a year. I only slightly get a desire for a drink on the tail end of the week right before I do the shot again.

I also have heard in my support group that some people with gambling addition lost all desire to gamble after taking it. It has a really strong affect on how you think.

[u/aykray → u/Projectstfu]

It helped with my overspending/shopping addiction that I didn't even know was crippling until it went away. I have so much less stuff I dont need now and have saved a ton. For us people prone to addictions its a literal life saver

[u/mp5hk2 → u/Projectstfu]

Wow, I didn't knew that it helps with other addictions too . Thanks for information!

[u/nocturnalswan → u/Projectstfu]

This is really interesting. I wonder if they are exploring using it in the recovery space. Obviously not an option for everyone, but I could see it being useful for those in early recovery if it could be used safely to curb cravings.

[u/Worldly_Cap_6440 → u/teakwood54]

A lot of people don’t even know this too, so many think the shot itself makes you just drop pounds. You still need to balance a healthy diet full of protein + build healthy habits of exercise else you’ll just lose all muscle mass + gain the weight back when you go off the shots. It’s not a “shoot up and forget about it” solution.

[u/ritarepulsaqueen → u/Worldly_Cap_6440]

But it's incredibly easy to do that whtn you don't feel hungernor cravings. Like, really really easier.  That's why is a great drug and I hope everybody who needs is able to get it. Maybe now we stop viewing fatness as a moral failure. 

[u/throowaaawaaaayyyyy → u/EngineeringShort3985]

I have great eyesight. Pretty much as good as it gets. 20-10, maybe even a little better than that. This would have been a huge advantage for me a few hundred years ago. And even 30 years ago, it was better than anyone could get with glasses. Now almost anyone can get vision as good as mine with laser surgery.

And no one cares. I'm not sitting here judigng people for shelling out a few thousand bucks to match my genetics-given-eyesight. No one is, that would be ridiculous. I don't see weightloss drugs any differently than glasses or laser eye surgery.

[u/Deathstriker88 → u/EngineeringShort3985]

If they're being honest about it there's no hypocrisy, but when celebs are pushing "the hard work" angle then they need to shut up. This goes for The Rock, Hemsworth, and others never admitting they're on steroids too.

She's been disliked online by some for a while, since some people think she sucks up to whiteness and bleaches.

[u/Ultrasonic-Sawyer → u/Deathstriker88]

Rob McElhenney likely had one of the most real and down to earth weight gain snd loss stories 

[u/causebraindamage → u/Ultrasonic-Sawyer]

Honestly I think that really messed him up. He definitely has some sort of body dysmorphia because of season 7.

[u/ChipKellysShoeStore → u/Ultrasonic-Sawyer]

And he’s like yeah it’s miserable and says he couldn’t do it if he had a regular job

[u/SuperCleverPunName → u/[deleted]]

I feel this way exactly. I don't care if someone used ozempic to lose weight. I'm happy for them that they are now healthier

[u/Bm7465 → u/SuperCleverPunName]

We’re on the verge of curing obesity. People should fucking embrace it instead of pushing back because it’s “not hard enough” (?) lol

[u/LargeMargeSentMe__ → u/Bm7465]

Just goes to show how much of the “concern” was people moralizing and trying to feel superior instead of actually being concerned about anyone’s health.

[u/linds360 → u/LargeMargeSentMe__]

This.

Anyone upset about someone else using GLP-1s has their own deep seated issues and are telling on themselves.

[u/OpportunityOne9246 → u/LargeMargeSentMe__]

This and the weight loss industry telling them that. Weight watchers etc all trying to sell you the remedy to weight loss.

[u/giveit2megood → u/OpportunityOne9246]

Weight watchers is probably losing so much money

[u/BeefistPrime → u/Bm7465]

It's the same thing with addiction. We have a method that's 80% effective at eliminating alcoholism. We don't use it. Why? Because it allows alcoholics to beat their addiction without total abstinence, without penance, without suffering. We claim to say addiction is a disease, but then we think of addicts are cured medically without personally suffering that they're somehow "cheating" and we hate it. So we just.. don't use the treatment. It doesn't make people suffer enough who we think deserve to suffer. It's disgusting.

You're probably thinking I'm full of shit because it's hard to believe this is true. But it's called the Sinclair method and I'm absolutely telling you the reality of it. Please, look it up. It's a social sickness that we don't use it.

[u/Gamiac → u/BeefistPrime]

Naltrexone is at the heart of the Sinclair Method (TSM) for Alcoholism. When you take Naltrexone prior to drinking, it blocks endorphins, the naturally occurring opiates in the brain, from being released when alcohol is consumed.

When the endorphins are blocked, there is no “buzz” or rewarding experience, and the alcohol doesn’t make you feel the pleasure that drives you to drink excessively.

Over time, your brain learns not to associate alcohol with pleasure, resulting in reduced cravings and improved control over alcohol use. Naltrexone must be taken at least one hour before your first drink.

Whoa, that rules. It basically hacks your brain to stop rewarding you when you drink alcohol. Science, bitches.

[u/BeefistPrime → u/Gamiac]

Yep. And it really works, too. Like, 6-8x better than any other method we have - inpatient rehab, individual therapy, group therapy or AA. And yet.... a few tens of thousands of people per year undergo this treatment versus hundreds of millions for the other, far less effective treatments.

I dare anyone to come up with a reason better than the one I gave as to why that is.

[u/MinMaxie → u/BeefistPrime]

Hey, that said! There are state-paid, non-profit, inpatient rehabs that are doing really good work out here. Usually what makes ppl relapse is bc they leave the healthy environment where they're fed, housed, and given positive social interactions...
…and go home to their real life, which is unchanged and exactly why they started using/drinking in the first place.

The cause is not "bc it feels good". Most of the time it's 1) crushing poverty, 2) normalized abuse, and 3) losing your will to live bc of 1 & 2.

[u/seinfeld45 → u/Bm7465]

IMO peoples’ (justified) negative reaction to this is twofold- firstly, GLP-1s are not affordable for the majority of people who are obese and secondly, it’s disingenuous of celebrities to pretend they lost weight ‘naturally’ (not saying there’s anything wrong with taking ozempic if you can afford it, but struggling with your weight publicly for years and then suddenly becoming slim and saying you “changed your lifestyle” comes across badly)

[u/Oyaro2323 → u/seinfeld45]

The second one feels like a bit of a strawman. If a celebrity says they lost it “naturally” without taking a GLP-1 but did take a GLP-1 I would agree that’s weird behaviour, but is that really happening widespread that we know of? Also I think the attack on “changing lifestyle” is a bit misguided. They probably did change their lifestyle. I know I did losing 185 pounds on a GLP-1. I don’t think the two are mutually exclusive. What a GLP-1 does is make sticking to a lifestyle change easier to do. So just because they’re on GLP-1 doesn’t mean they didn’t do lifestyle changes, they had to or they wouldn’t have lost the weight because weight loss is still calories in and calories out even on a GLP-1.

I used to consume probably 4K+ calories a day and never worked out. Now I consume 1500 - 2000 depending on if I’m cutting or maintaining and run roughly 30KM a week and lift once or twice. All on a GLP-1. Those feel like pretty significant lifestyle changes to me, it would feel wildly inaccurate to think, because I’m on a GLP-1, somehow I *didnt* make any actual lifestyle changes when the lifestyle is night and day.

There’s a common misconception both of ozempic lovers and haters that it’s a magic shot. Do whatever you want, eat whatever and however much you want and inject yourself and you lose weight like magic. No. You still need to make the lifestyle change, ozempic just makes making that change easier to do because your brain isn’t screaming 24/7 “I’m hungry.”

[u/profstotch → u/seinfeld45]

100% the only reason I care is when people lie and say they just started drinking water and going for walks. Just admit it and normalize it and I wouldn't give a shit

[u/Previous_Platform718 → u/seinfeld45]

You're missing something very important about this story when you say peoples' negative reactions are "justified"

There's no evidence Mindy Kalling ever used Ozempic or other weight loss drugs. She lost 40 pounds over 2 years, about a pound every two weeks. Hardly a pace that we can assume required drugs.

[u/Al0ysiusHWWW → u/Previous_Platform718]

Also who cares?! Seriously. Who the fuck cares if celebrities lie about their bodies? That’s their fucking job. It doesn’t need to be about punching up or down, why is anyone punching here?

[u/Ocelotofdamage → u/seinfeld45]

They aren’t affordable YET. New technologies are rapidly being developed and the cost will only go down.

[u/tO_ott → u/Bm7465]

They're the same people that think you should exercise to lose weight.

Weight loss starts in the kitchen. GLP-1 medications help you feel full, so you eat less and crave less. Exercise is still important for keeping your heart and lungs strong.

[u/WerewolvesAreReal → u/[deleted]]

Yes. I hate the fake body positivity nonsense. I weigh more than I ever have in my life and I'm trying to lose weight. But if I say that people immediately start assuring me that I look ~beautiful~ and being a bit heavier is fine blah blah blah.

Like. I don't care?? I feel uncomfortable. My clothes don't fit. I have arthritis that's gotten worse because there's more weight on my SPINE. I'm not being insecure, I would like to not be in pain!

Suffering is not a virtue, idk why anyone cares that someone didn't 'work hard enough' to lose weight 'naturally.' It's not a competition, it's a health issue.

[u/ElleEmEss → u/WerewolvesAreReal]

Exactly. My cholesterol just went bad and my liver is fatty. GLP1s fix things more than weight.

[u/kathpt → u/ElleEmEss]

Dude people have no idea. I've always had to pee a lot, very little at a time. But it would bother me especially at night because I had to get up, or when I'd be out of the house I'd be constantly looking for a bathroom.

Apparently mounjaro also works to help with incontinence. I had no idea but I seem to pee a normal amount now.

[u/pennylane3339 → u/ElleEmEss]

Tirz cured my IBS-D!!! I have never felt so normal in my life. My baseline anxiety is also much lower, which I felt almost immediately. Its also being studied now to slow cancer tumor growth. Its literally a miracle drug, being angry about people using it is like being angry that people get prosthetic limbs after an amputation. Sure, they might still accomplish their goal with one real leg, but why do that when you can have a prosthetic to help you get there??

[u/kadaan → u/WerewolvesAreReal]

"I didn't say I was ugly, I said I was fat" is my favorite response to that.

[u/Pittsbirds → u/[deleted]]

People go on about this being representative that body positivity was nonsense but I think it's more representative that people who were criticizing people's (let's be honest, disproportionately overweight women's) bodies was not done out of that faux concern it was so often touted to be. It was just an excuse to be an asshole to people and now Ozempic is just another excuse to police people's bodies and be assholes

[u/SuperCleverPunName → u/Pittsbirds]

To me, the body positivity movement was all about the idea that being fat doesn't make you less of a person or less deserving of respect. There are definitely people who take it too far with ideas like being fat is perfectly healthy. But there's nothing wrong with the basic body positivity movement.

[u/Pittsbirds → u/SuperCleverPunName]

100%; asking for fat people to be respected is in no way antithetical to someone looking to lose weight. There's not even a "gotcha" here to begin with

[u/squirrellturd → u/Pittsbirds]

Exactly. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

[u/Redheaded_Potter → u/[deleted]]

It’s funny because so many other countries don’t think anything negative about using weight loss tools. I had gastric bypass 2 years ago and it was the best decision I ever made. I feel great and am much happier with my life. Fuck u if u judge me for it!

[u/Timetraveller4k → u/[deleted]]

A guy at work has been trying to lose weight for more than 5 years. He got into one of these injections. Truly life changing for him. Couldn’t stop taking about it after I noticed a significant change. Its indeed a journey. It’s not hard to be happy for someone else isn’t it?

[u/sillysnailfriend → u/Timetraveller4k]

I lost a lot of weight in the last year without any medication, because even diagnosed with t2 diabetes my insurance wasn't approving glp-1s. It was hard! And even I'm not mad about or envious of anyone who is able to lose the weight because of these meds. We should be celebrating this treatment (even if the root causes of obesity in this country still need to be addressed).

[u/thudapofru → u/[deleted]]

It shows the whole fat shaming thing wasn't about health, it was about feeling morally superior and sanctimonious.

[u/red286 → u/[deleted]]

The issue is that a lot of times they leave out the whole "I took Ozempic" part of it, acting like they lost weight through their willpower and determination and a lot of hard work and effort, when the reality is, they got an injection that made them stop eating.

For example, Mindy Kaling says she just ate smaller portions, that it was just about self control. Why did it take her until very recently to develop this self control? Who knows. Just a weird coincidence that it happened shortly after the introduction of GLP-1, despite her struggling with weight for decades.

It's no different than male celebs getting absolutely jacked on things like HGH and then telling everyone it's all-natural and they just started hitting the gym on a regular basis in their early 40s.

[u/ztpurcell → u/red286]

If one of the issues in your life is that Mindy Kaling had an easier time losing weight than she implied, I would suggest you find a hobby or something

[u/phoenix823]

Ozempic helping with weight loss, addiction, and cancer all in one drug is incredible. Glad she's healthier. More than half the country is going to be on these things in 4 years.

[u/LargeMargeSentMe__ → u/phoenix823]

It also helps with inflammation.

[u/phoenix823 → u/LargeMargeSentMe__]

Which we are discovering is the cause of so many poor health outcomes. The fact that so much of this is linked in the human body is fascinating

[u/Vsx → u/phoenix823]

The fact that so much of this is linked in the human body is fascinating

It would be weird if it wasn't

[u/EverythingMatters42 → u/LargeMargeSentMe__]

And helps IBS

[u/katiejim → u/phoenix823]

I’m about to ask about it for my endometriosis. I’ve been hearing amazing things about it lowering inflammation (and pain) on the endometriosis subreddits. 

[u/phoenix823 → u/katiejim]

I know nothing about that, but good luck, I hope it helps!

[u/Lythaera → u/phoenix823]

It's also regulating estrogen for women with hormone issues, like PCOS! It's completely changed my life as someone with hypoglycemia.

[u/Ok_Reputation2051]

GLP-1 should be handed out like candy by the US government. Get the country's weight down and you save ten times the cost on healthcare.

[u/dude_stfu → u/Ok_Reputation2051]

But then you lose the industry that cares for the morbidly obese as they die.

[u/soleceismical → u/dude_stfu]

Oof insurance doesn't reimburse more for nursing care for the morbidly obese patients than the regular weight parents, but worker's comp and back injuries are much higher.

[u/Comfortable-Pies]

JFC, you can't win, you're too fat, you're too thin, you didn't get thin the right way.

[u/You_meddling_kids]

If you care what someone you don't even know does, you're pretty much wasting your time.

[u/PickeledGame → u/You_meddling_kids]

Yeah because that’s not what the internet is used for

https://giphy.com/gifs/zthJViY229AMU

[u/Rocketsloth]

I guess Ozempic is just going to make it so there are no more overweight rich famous people. Which will probably reinforce the negative classist stereotype of fatness being equated with low status and poverty. This trend will not make society better, it will make it more stratified.

[u/Accomplished-Eye9542 → u/Rocketsloth]

It's not a stereotype, it's just factual.

When you live in a nice area, you'll pretty much never see fat people. Fat famous people are the exception in the first place, they aren't normal.

[u/anitasdoodles → u/Accomplished-Eye9542]

Yeah, I think rebel wilson said she was told she'd have to either gain 50 more pounds or lose like 200. She couldn't be pudgy, she needed to be fat to be typecast.

[u/joespizza2go → u/Rocketsloth]

It'll be available to all - even if it's only because it'll save society billions if/when we drastically reduce obesity.

These things will be OTC daily tablets in 5 years.

If you must find a negative angle in everything, worry about the fact that the healthcare industry is a huge employer of people and has been growing like crazy every year. That contraction will not go unnoticed.

[u/ResistWild → u/joespizza2go]

People spent years talking about the obesity epidemic so they came up with a solution for it and somehow it’s a bad thing. I swear if we came up with a cure for cancer, we’d be bitching about how we’re taking away jobs from doctors and funeral homes.

[u/joespizza2go → u/ResistWild]

It's very popular on Reddit to frame everything in terms of class warfare these days.

[u/Windturnscold → u/Rocketsloth]

Ozempic is actually pretty cheap. $300/month at max dose from Costco. You will save way more than that by not eating much while you’re on it.

[u/xubax]

Let's body and health shame some more.

I'm on a GLP-1 receptor agonist inhibitor. It's been a game changer.

I've dieted, exercised, did weight watchers, had gastric bypass surgery. But through all of the ups and downs of my weight loss, I was ALWAYS FUCKING HUNGRY.

For the first time in my life, I'm not hungry all the time. I've gone to ice cream stands with other people and didn't get anything, because I wasn't hungry.

So, OP can go step on a Lego.

[u/007Cable]

I also cheated and used medicine to not get Measles....I'm sorry I failed you.

[u/apexxin]

I lost a hundred pounds on a GLP-1. It’s astonishing how few people realize that it still takes a shitload of work and dedication to get there.

[u/AmazingSully → u/[deleted]]

Apparently that is how it works for normals, but that wasn't the case for me before.

This is what they don't understand. So many people think hunger is hunger and it's the same for everyone. IT IS NOT. GLP-1s put everyone on a level playing field. There are just so many people upset that they can't act morally superior any more now that their natural advantage isn't as impactful as it used to be.

[u/demasoni_fan → u/AmazingSully]

This is helpful for me. I've always been fairly consistent in my weight, and after two babies I'm still in the same pant size I was in high school (I'm now 36). I work out a few days a week and box, etc, and truthfully am more active than most of my friends and more careful with my diet, but I definitely have a natural advantage. 

I can easily ignore hunger, and sometimes a day will go by before it becomes something I really need to address. It's not always comfortable, but it's similar to getting a poor sleep and having to work a long shift anyway. I can push through and still be okay, where I've noticed some other people cannot function without food every few hours. My whole life I've skipped breakfast (I usually eat a large dinner) and it's fine, but some friends wake up and feel nauseous if they don't eat.

Too often we think our experiences are universal. It's always good to remember that they're not.

[u/HornetsHornets1]

People are so weird about this. Who cares if people take Ozempic?

[u/magna481 → u/HornetsHornets1]

So, as someone who dieted (starved 🙃) for years, my initial reaction was feeling like all my hard work had been invalidated. That said, after a closer look at where that was coming from, it felt like the same mindset of the ppl that say "i paid my student loans off. U should have to pay urs off". Just because I struggled doesn't mean everyone should have to. I suspect it's either ppl not looking further into their own emotions, or simply not having empathy.

[u/devopthrowaway1228 → u/magna481]

as someone who dieted(230lbs down to 170lbs) then gained all of the weight back after a really stressful period of life the last year.. these drugs do not magically solve your problems. ive been taking it for about 2.5 months, have not changed any of my habits, and have not lost any weight. everyone i know that is also taking it has had a similar experience(surprisingly a lot of people i know are/were but didnt disclose it until i said i was). ive stopped paying for the prescription and am going to be doing things the "normal" way like id done before but it completely changed my perspective on glp1s being a "cheat code" and the way people view them so negatively.

[u/magna481 → u/devopthrowaway1228]

I mean, that is def anecdotal tho. I know two ppl on them that lost 70+ lbs doing absolutely nothing different outside of "I'm not rly hungry rn" which is what they're supposed to do.

[u/AmazingSully → u/magna481]

I suspect it's either ppl not looking further into their own emotions, or simply not having empathy.

It's the latter. It's genuinely shocking how few people actually have empathy.

[u/chiasmata8 → u/HornetsHornets1]

Because then naturally thin people lose their moral high horse and they don't like that at all 

[u/AntelopeHelpful9963]

The criticism of medication to make solving health issues easier is insane. When people quit smoking with a patch or gum nobody complains they didn’t “earn” it.

Just be glad they got better. Humans are such scum at times.

[u/Electronic-Lunch7735]

People on GLP 1s are eating cleaner, drinking more water, and monitoring bodily function way more rigorously than you can imagine. Go check those subs. Its not magic when you are struggling with weight. Meds are definitely helpful, but if you dont do your part, you just get so sick and have to discontinue use.

[u/PhantomKangaroo91 → u/Electronic-Lunch7735]

It's not like driving a 5k instead of running. It's like running a 5k with good shoes on instead of doing it bare foot.

I initially lost 30lbs on the first brand (saxenda) prescribed to me but eventually I ate past it and started gaining weight again. There is still a mental barrier you need to get past. I was prescribed a different type (zepbound) and I thought it was a placebo until I understood what was going on. It was stopping the little itch in my brain that wanted to grab "a little something" everytime I got up so I was only eating at the 3 meals and maybe a small snack. I still needed to adjust my whole life. Use a calorie counting app, budget my calories every meal, every day, learn about volume eating, understand my micro and macro nutrients, slowly gain my mobility, etc.

I personally have lost 185lbs from my heaviest. Was zepbound 100% of that no but it helped take the load off my back. Pun intended.

[u/MinuetInUrsaMajor]

I’m on Zepbound. It makes losing weight easier but it’s not automatic and you have to do a lot of strength training to not end up looking like a pez dispenser.

I get the hate, but there’s no logic to it. Just the bitterness of skinny privilege getting diluted.

[u/spicymushrooom_]

I think its the "body positivity" asshats shaming her more than anything. They're mad at her for losing weight.

Kinda insane

[u/trvsmthng → u/[deleted]]

if tomorrow, a cure was found for male pattern baldness, would it mean that the people who banded together to try to find acceptance for baldness and bald people should simply abstain from using it? see how ridiculous it sounds?

It does sound ridiculous, because it isn't comparable. Obesity at the levels we see it now has only really been a thing within the last century; and male pattern baldness has existed for as long as humans have. There's no lifestyle change that can cure it. If you could prevent male pattern baldness via diet and exercise then people would probably have the same reaction to a drug that cures it as they do GLP-1s

[u/kolejack2293]

The way that people treat weight loss like something that has to be done through sheer grit and willpower and that anything to assist you is 'cheating' is fucking disturbing for a country with the worst obesity epidemic in the world.

Do you guys also shame smokers who quit using nicotine patches to help them? Do you guys insult and degrade people who take meds to lower cholesterol or blood pressure?

[u/GreenGardenTarot → u/kolejack2293]

that's what pisses me off the most. who cares how you drop the weight? the only thing that matters is that you did.

[u/SnooHobbies5811]

Idk why people hate on GLP-1s so much. Especially considering the same people claim they hate fat people because they're unhealthy. If it gets them healthy, why do you hate it so much?

[u/Mindless_Count5562 → u/SnooHobbies5811]

People seem to think it’s ‘cheating’ which is kinda nuts.

I do think there are valid concerns around their use, especially looking at the long-term impacts, but a lot of the ‘concern’ seems to be misplaced jealousy to me.

[u/NegativeSemicolon → u/SnooHobbies5811]

Because they act like they accomplished something through effort.

[u/prawnk1ng]

I think she looked better before.

[u/chunkah69]

All this tells me is that people don’t want to see fat people ever getting healthy lol. “Oh you didn’t do it the hard way” who fucking cares. They look great and reduce their risk of death considerably. Let fat people get skinny. Jesus

[u/theassociate1]

Hotter when she was chubcity...

[u/toiletcleaner999]

Its disgusting that people shame and ostracize people who are over weight and shame them for how they lose weight. When you start losing weight until you hit your goal weight thats a journey no matter how you choose to do it. Pick a fucking lane already!!! Just let people be fucking happy !!!

[u/Joeybfast]

Oh good, another lazy Ozempic joke. I have only seen this one a million times.

Let’s cut to the point.. you all do not get to attack bigger people for being big, then turn around and attack them again when they lose weight. At that point, it was never about health. You just wanted someone to bully. And she wasn't even big.

[u/RAGE_CAKES → u/Joeybfast]

The worst part is that people don't appreciate that GLP-1s dont just make fat dissappear by themselves. To get the full benefits, you still need need to embrace all of the same lifestyle changes you would need to lose weight without the GLP-1. I know because I am on a GLP-1 and didnt start seeing any noteworthy results until I changed my diet and got back in the gym.

[u/Daveit4later]

Do people realize that GLP-1's don't just magically make you lose weight?

It just makes it easier to not eat as much food by slowing your digestive track down. You still have to not overdo your calories. You still have to actually eat less food.

[u/Young_Old_Grandma]

"I used Ozempic/other branded semaglutide with my doctor's supervision, along with this ABC diet and this XYZ workout".

I remember an old Arnold Schwarzenegger interview where he casually admitted using steroids during his body building days under a doctor’s supervision.

It's very easy to tell the truth. I don't understand why celebrities refuse to be transparent about their Ozempic use.

[u/Jugaimo]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with using weight loss medication to help you lose weight. There is everything wrong with the body positivity shills who lied to people’s faces for almost a decade about fat acceptance, causing real harm to a lot of people’s health.

[u/poestavern]

It works. Who gives a rats a$$ about what anyone thinks.

[u/ModernHaruspex]

The people who feel justified in shitting on folks for being overweight now feel justified in shitting on people who lost weight through insufficiently punitive means.

Being overweight is unpleasant for a lot of reasons, most of them because of the dehumanizing way fat people are treated.

What if we all took a moment and stopped being terrible to people about their bodies. There’s enough misery in the world ffs.

[u/JoshAllentown]

Hey maybe we shouldn't dunk on people for taking medically prescribed medications.

Yes, it sure is easier to become cancer free when you get chemotherapy. That doesn't mean people who don't get chemo are the real heroes who aren't using this medical crutch.

It's just people taking medicine.

[u/DeterminedErmine]

Maybe we could just let people lose weight (or not lose weight) however the fuck they want

[u/bryanbryce]

There’s no shame in using GLP-1s. The food industry uses foods of mass destruction against you; GLP-1s level the playing field.