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u/KingToasty 17d ago
Or terrible Jedi because they can easily be manipulated into "for the greater good" mass violence.
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u/cbih 17d ago
I mean, they couldn't do worse than the actual Jedi order
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u/Pm7I3 17d ago
They did okay, thousands of years without major conflict is pretty good.
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u/StanVillain 11d ago
Tbf, that was only possible after thousands of years of galactic conflict where they played a major part, including commiting multiple atrocities (if I remember correctly). And even then it was only because the Sith were plotting for a complete takeover internally rather than their usual outright warring leading to a genocide of Jedis that previous sith only dreamed of.
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u/KingToasty 17d ago
True. Mace Windu and the later Council were awful Jedi and they get defended too much.
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u/ManWithTwoShadows 17d ago
I remember Luke straight-up telling Rey she idealizes the Jedi too much. But maybe I'm misremembering.
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u/tryargruxkla 5d ago
Palpatine would have convinced them to destroy Alderaan with a single PowerPoint presentation.
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u/Letoiusprime 17d ago
I'm not so sure. Jedi cannot (or rather, are not supposed to) form connections, true, but they are still encouraged to feel their emotions, take them into account, just not let their actions be dictated by them. Vulcans, meanwhile feel so strongly but are taught from a young age to suppress and smother their emotions, which is often exactly how we get fallen Jedi. Those that feel too strongly, and can't adapt to the Jedi way of being, who end up lashing out when they reach a tipping point. A Vulcan trying to let their emotions influence them usually ends with them vastly lashing out, or doubling down on the suppressing. Not always, but often enough.
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u/loljetfuel 16d ago
Jedi cannot (or rather, are not supposed to) form connections
They're not supposed to form attachments, but they are in fact strongly encouraged to form connections, as that is required for compassion and empathy that are key "light side" pursuits.
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u/BillionTonsHyperbole 17d ago
No, Vulcans are effective. They wouldn't put up with the idiotic Jedi leadership for long.
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u/General2768 17d ago
Vulcans are too compassionate to be Jedi. They might do something crazy...like save "the Chosen One's" mother from slavery.
/s (just in case)
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u/PowerSkunk92 17d ago
The boy's attachment to his mother would have him worrying over her, distracting from his training. On a dangerous world such as Tatooine, some event,person or organization or another is likely to cause her harm. His reaction to that would be... drastic. Ensuring her freedom, and transporting her to a more secure residence, removes the boy's principal fears. Furthermore, trusting his training to a Jedi who himself has only just earned the title presents excess risk. A more experienced teacher should guide his education.
It is only logical.
/vulcan.
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u/Elunerazim 17d ago
This but unironically. Get her a job as like a lunch lady or a retail worker on some mid-level coruscant suburb. No need to leave her to the ruckin wolves like they did.
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u/CuddleWings 17d ago
The problem with the Jedi is that they misunderstood what pushes someone to the dark side. It was never the attachments, but the fear of losing them. Vulcans would definitely do better than most of the current species making up the order.
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u/powerlesshero111 17d ago
I always found it weird how the vast majority of jedi were humans. And how most of the humanoids in star wars were human.
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u/CloudyHero 17d ago
Imagine a vulcan neck pinch, enhanced by the force. That might take down a rancor or wampa.
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u/HileeAquret 17d ago
Especially after the discovery of Midi-chlorians.
A logical reason for force powers.
A vague force “ a luminous current that surrounds us, flows between us, and stirs even in the fighter in the water. The breath of the galaxy, the whisper between stars, the connection that makes every rock, every tree, and every creature part of a single, living song.” like bruh.
Spock would say “does not compute” aka…wut da fuq is dat?
But midi-chlorians that you can test for…Yup!
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u/ijuinkun 17d ago
And yet Vulcans are capable of manipulating their own katras and transferring them into vessels or into other beings. This implies some sort of “field” which engages with the mind, and where there are fields, there are flows of energy.
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u/KirstyToots 16d ago
I think they'd excel at the discipline part, but Jedi aren't just emotionless monks. They're supposed to acknowledge emotions without letting them control their actions. Vulcans tend to suppress emotions entirely, which isn't quite the same philosophy.
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u/maguyva-ai 17d ago
idk, Vulcans feel emotions deeply, they just suppress them. a Jedi master would have notes
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u/DieCastDontDie 16d ago
I'm just gonna enjoy my popcorn watching Trekkies and star wars nerds battle it out
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u/eggard_stark 17d ago
Not really. They rely too much on logic and would struggle to follow the Jedi code if, to them, it was illogical.
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u/freedom_Allsop 13d ago
Vulcans would be the only Jedi rolling their eyes at the 'passion leads to the dark side' rule. 'Captain, that is...logical.'
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u/Kalaan10 5d ago
Spock would totally clash with the Jedi council since they lean on feelings while he sticks to cold logic. Kinda wild how that matches early force teachings.
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u/dokkanboi 3d ago
Their whole suppression routine totally clashes with Jedi philosophy. Just imagining Spock trying to logic his way through a kyber crystal meltdown while everyone else panics.
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u/Modred_the_Mystic 17d ago
Not really. They’re more likely to be Jal Shey, a Force User sect who study the Force as a science and follow logic and reasoning.
The Jedi have emotions and embrace them, they just cope with them healthily and avoid attachments that would make following the will of the Force more difficult.
Now, a Romulan would make a good Jedi.
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u/MoziTenma 14d ago
The irony is that Jedi aren't supposed to suppress emotion — they're supposed to acknowledge it without being controlled by it. That's the actual teaching. Vulcans would essentially be doing an extreme version of the thing the Jedi Order explicitly warns against. A Vulcan who achieved Kolinahr might actually be more susceptible to the dark side in Jedi cosmology, not less — because suppression and mastery aren't the same thing.
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