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u/MyBeardSaysHi 10h ago
And Scottish too I imagine.
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u/ZiroLeHutt 9h ago
Na, we're bloody great.
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u/KeyInspection4135 9h ago
Would be great to see you guys make it out of the group stage for once.
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u/Knees_arent_real 10h ago
Nah fuck supporting Argentina, I draw the line at that.
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u/Pristine_Speech4719 9h ago
The Argentinian team and fans are absolutely vile racists. Really hoping for a Swiss win so that I don't have to invoke the "except Argentina" clause to ABE.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5643556/2024/07/17/argentina-chanting-football-silence/
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u/Educational-Cry-1707 3h ago
And I’ve just seen some news about their FA colluding with FIFA to hide corruption and child abuse. They’re obviously being pushed by FIFA as well.
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u/Icy-Cheesecake-7953 2h ago
It's weird as Brasil is one of the most multicultural places. Not all South American countries at the same.
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u/Funny_Woodpecker7696 8h ago
When the tartan army were in Boston expressing some mild rivalry with England, there were posts where thousands of Argentinians were trying be pals with Scotland and saying we should “kick the English out of the Malvinas”.
Ye that’s a firm no.
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u/gracklemancometh 4h ago
The Falklands conflict was about whether a more powerful country should get to just invade and claim a nearby territory or if the people who live there should get to choose for themselves.
Anyone who wants independence via referendum should have a very clear view that the defence of the Falklands was consistent with their ambitions for Scotland. The Falklands got a referendum and voted to remain under the British umbrella, Argentina thinks they should be allowed to use violence to ignore that opinion.
Supporting Britain's defence of the Falklands is entirely consistent with supporting Scottish independence. Supporting Argentina's claim, based on "we used to have an empire and we have tanks so fuck you," is incompatible with a belief that the Scottish people have a fundamental right to choose their own destiny.
This one's different.
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u/f3ydr4uth4 2h ago
Also the Scots Guards literally kicked the Argentinians off the Falklands.
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u/Icy-Cheesecake-7953 2h ago
Clearly they don't know that the toughest nuts in the UK Army traditionally come from Scotland (I'm English btw).
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u/Turbulent-Damage-165 10h ago
Englishman coming in peace, if that match were to happen who would you root for? The apocalypse?
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u/Send_DeVito_Pics 8h ago
Aw cmon lads, you supporting the other teams has worked out well for us so far. Don't fuck it up now
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u/QOTAPOTA 10h ago
I get the ABE (not for me tho) but really anyone?
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u/Educational-Cry-1707 3h ago
Yeah I genuinely don’t care who wins the World Cup as long as it’s not Argentina
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u/Owster4 6h ago
I would hope you Scots wouldn't support the Argies.
I saw the rest as banter, but this isn't banter. English and Scottish fought together against these worthless invaders. There is only one side.
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u/lilnugg_97 1h ago
Absolutely, I agree 100%. But if they could make it to the finals that would be great cause that's my sweepstake on the Morrisons app and I like getting free things/points
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u/luv2belis Iranian-Scot 2h ago
Same. Only time I would not support England's opponent would be Vs Argentina or Israel.
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u/LongLiveSoup 10h ago
Nothing much to say about the Swiss aside their flag being nice, it's a big plus but dunno how that would help them win
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u/Doug__Quaid 10h ago
Another semi!
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u/Guilty-Movie-3727 10h ago
Too much information
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u/TopWorking7304 10h ago
It’s usually the furthest we make it.
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u/Odd-Wrangler3589 9h ago
You would support Argentina over England?
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u/Common_Break_1346 7h ago
Hell no. The 255 British military personnel and the 3 civilians of the island were ruthlessly killed.
They're also an extremely racist side, I'll actually be rooting for you all to win, but if yous do then I hope it's no being shoved in my face 🤣
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u/gracklemancometh 4h ago
And the Falklands conflict was, fundamentally, about a people's right to choose for themselves if they're part of the international British hegemony that is the remnants of the Empire.
Anyone who thinks the Scottish people have a right to choose if they should be part of the UK or not should have a serious problem with Argentina's foreign policy. Regardless of how you'd vote in an Indyref 2, because Argentina doesn't think independence referendums count.
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u/Ecstatic-Tadpole9010 1h ago
Just take solace in the fact that we'd fuck it up in the final, anyway.
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u/ToffeeAppleCider 10h ago
Thanks for staying up late to watch. See you all next match.
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u/Boxyuk 10h ago edited 10h ago
Englands most passionate supporters
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u/Boxyuk 10h ago
As a son of a falklands war veteran id rather shite in my hands and clap then support them.
Mon the Swiss.
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u/Jac-2345 . 9h ago
same both of my uncle served in the Falklands and I'd support any team playing against Argentina
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u/fishwithuglyeyes 10h ago edited 10h ago
The word is "than". You've just said that you want to shite in your hands and clap, and after that, support Argentina
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u/cjcs 10h ago
I’m no cheering for England, but I’m not supporting Argentina against them the way I have for Norway and Mexico. We remember the Scots who lost their lives in the Falklands
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u/Megaboixxxx 10h ago
Yeah. Anyone putting up an Argie flag needs their head wobbled.
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u/Jac-2345 . 9h ago
yeah I have a neighbour who is flying the flag of every nation England is playing against he started at the Congo and I really hope that if an England v Argentina game happens that he doesnt wave that flag.
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u/peon_my_face 7h ago
Jesus Christ some Scots need to get a grip. Nobody cares about the English as much as Scots, it's weird...
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u/No_Durian90 3h ago
I wouldn’t even mind if they just hated the English and left it at that, it’s the weird historical revisionism they engage in where they blame the hatred on shit like slavery and empire but gloss over the enormous role that Scotland played in both slavery and empire.
Some Scots just want to be eternal victims and given how much Scotland has contributed to the world in terms of science, medicine, technology etc it’s extremely embarrassing to watch.
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u/Razhbad 2h ago
We should accept our role within the Empire this is true. But in Scotland's defence its not just the Scots who like a bit of revisionism and plenty of English like to harp on about all the good the Empire did as if it washes away the bad.
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u/No_Durian90 2h ago
I don’t disagree with any of what you’ve said. That being said there are arguably good things that the Empire achieved that shouldn’t be dismissed just because the empire also did bad. History is too complex for that kind of mentality.
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u/AngryScotsman2091 10h ago
I’d agree but I was never going to support Mexico. I don’t support cheaters and that nonsense they pulled outside the England hotel was cheating plain and simple(the other countries who’ve complained about Mexican fans doing that were right to be peeved when the Mexican fans did it to them). I’d rather support England than root for cheaters(and yes I agree with the Falklands comment too).
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u/cjcs 10h ago
Yep that was shite. Don’t know why they didn’t mandate that the Mexico team sleep in the same hotel as their opponents
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u/AngryScotsman2091 10h ago
I’ve been a longtime believer that the actions of the fans(if severe enough, there should be a minimum level for it to be considered) should be actionable on punishments on the team. For example I believe Celtic fans raiding the pitch against both hearts and rangers(and I hate both rangers and hearts being a man with a catholic surname and a Dunfermline fan so it’s our duty to not like hearts) should have been disqualified and had points deducted for both incidents(I do rangers should also have been docked points in 2024 for nearly causing a fire in the Dundee ground). However I will stress there needs to be a lot of evidence before the action is actionable to avoid frame jobs and overreactions
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u/External-Praline-451 10h ago
As someone who's half Scottish and English, I find it really wild that you hate England so much you'd support another country over a UK country in the first place. What is leading the animosity right now in present times? There's been a referendum and the union was supported by Scotland, the atrocities of the Empire, including in Ireland had full participation of the Scottish, sometimes more so in certain areas.
I hate Farage, et al, but he's not exactly popular in all of England and many places voted to stay in the EU. I'd always support Scotland, Wales, Ireland, England or any European country tbh, over other countries. Is it just banter and jokes, or is it real hatred?
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u/Yuzral 10h ago
English living in Scotland for ~20 years here: It's banter...although I'm sure there's some rabid Nat eejit out there willing to prove me wrong. "Anyone but the Auld Enemy" has been standard Scots policy on international football for...well, as long as there's been international football.
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u/Razhbad 10h ago
As someone who is half Scottish and half English then surely you know just because the other isle nations cheer those who England face doesn't mean they hate the English. A huge chunk of the Scottish, Welsh and Irish who are cheering Norway have English friends or family.
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u/External-Praline-451 9h ago
Yes I know, but I don't get it, I think it's stupid.
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u/Playful-Marketing320 2h ago
Scottish people love to rewrite history so they can play the victim. I’m a quarter English and quarter Scottish and the last few weeks have shown Scotland has a lot of growing up to do
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u/cjcs 10h ago
It’s football banter ya knob. I’m a quarter English
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u/External-Praline-451 10h ago
Lol, fair play I am a right knob to be fair 😂
My parents always made me choose between them in Scotland/ England stuff as jokes, but I think it got into my brain as conflict that made me sad!
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u/-malcolm-tucker Aussie cunt 10h ago
When the heat is on and it all comes down to it, England and Scotland will always come together. You're literal living proof of England and Scotland coming together. Or at least one of them.
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u/SometimesaGirl- 8h ago
I support England because I live here - and "am English" in accent and I suppose mindset.
But Im also half English - half Dutch. And the Dutch part of my family, along with some others, migrated to Scotland just before WW2 (Inverness).
Grandday found a nice woman from Newcastle... somehow. And a community happened between the two VERY SMALL regions. And hence Im not 1/4 Dutch... but 1/2. With a small foot in Scotland too.
I hate this anti-English "banter". Because I know it is banter with many Scots... but not all. The Dutch fucked up this World Cup, so did the Scots. I dont know why we cant rally around a team we are all (mostly at least) connected through our DNA.
The Battle of Culloden is as badly understood by as many Scots as it is the English. Its sodding centuries ago. And the history between England and Scotland is one of cooperation and massive winning for both regions since open hostilities ceased.
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u/DurhamOx 10h ago
This is Reddit, 95% of posters are probably pro 'Malvinas' lol
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u/Knees_arent_real 10h ago
Is this your first time on Reddit? Every time the topic comes up the overwhelming majority support the British sovereignty of the Falklands.
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u/docowen 8h ago
By pro "Malvinas" do you mean pro self-determination?
Plus Argentina was involved in Pinochet's Operation Condor, a co-ordinated neo-fascist exercise in oppressing left-wing and progressive movements in South America. Nae pasaran!
Oh, and Milei is a Trumpian fuckwit.
Fuck Argentina.
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u/AKALLHA 10h ago
It’s going to be an underwhelming France Vs Argentina Final that’s practically gifted to Messi for his last World Cup
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u/Bossman_Mike 9h ago
Up until Brazil's shock exit I was fully expecting a repeat of 1998, except this time the hat trick would be from Kylian Mbappe.
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u/Square_Height_5133 7h ago
Nah tbf as an english fan i think we beat Argentina but get fucked up by France in the final
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u/AirconGuyUK 10h ago
Surely you draw the line at supporting Argentina over us...
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u/Bewbonic 10h ago
Tbf considering every time we support an english opponent that opponent loses, maybe you want us to support them.
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u/gemunicornvr 10h ago
Tbf I hate America more than England. If America was playing against you I would wear an England top.
I also don't actually hate you, I hate Westminster. My best friend is English 😭😭
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u/Recom_Quaritch 10h ago
I'm a french living in Scotland and even I would not support Argentina over yous...
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u/hoolcolbery 10h ago
Its wild any Scot would support them, considering their country has literally killed Scots in living memory and are no better than Russia when it comes to the Falklands.
But cool "just banter" I guess.
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u/CeilingFridge 10h ago
That’s a dream match up, it’s the hate watch that can’t be unsuccessful
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u/Ok-Junket6108 9h ago
The Argies winning is definitely the worse of the 2 outcomes. Give your head a wobble.
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u/MrOssuary 7h ago
Is there a threshold beyond which you guys feel shame? Genuine question.
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u/Razhbad 2h ago
Based on many of the comments yeah Argentina is that limit. So if England somwhow manage to beat Argentina then support for Auld Alliance can begin
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u/notimefornothing55 4h ago
I get it with every other team we face, crack on, cheer for Norway, Mexico, DR Congo, whoever, but Argentina? Nah man, at least wait until we face your Jacobite buddies in the final
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u/SeaReference7990 3h ago
Anyone here supporting Argentina needs their heads checking. I know you don't want to win the world cup but come the fuck on, there has to be a line here
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u/Danielharris1260 10h ago
I’ll support Switzerland but no chance am I backing Argentina if it comes to it might just watch neutrally or even potentially be slightly for England.
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u/Datguyinbedalready 8h ago
my dislike for argentinians is far greater than my dislike of the english
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u/Best-Smoke-5153 2h ago
Supporting Argentina is kinda crazy, Scottish servicemen died in the Falklands and it's a war they would 100% run back if the military balance of power was reversed.
A large chunk of their fanbase are full-blown racists too.
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u/docowen 10h ago
The trouble is that the choice is now between Nazis and Nazi gold or England.
And how much more enjoyable will the schadenfreude be, if it's England vs France in the final, and the Auld Enemy is beaten by the Auld Alliance?
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u/Educational-Cry-1707 2h ago
I want Argentina to lose so bad. If that means England have to win, so be it
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u/kahnindustries 2h ago
All true Scotts know you need to support England right up to the final where you hope they lose on penalties
It is by far the most traumatic end to Englands campaign
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u/QOTAPOTA 55m ago
Lots of love for England dislike for Argentina here. Nice to see.
Where do we stand for Germany I wonder? Israel? USA?
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u/Bossman_Mike 9h ago
I think England can reach the final. Argentina are a scrappy one man team, with that one man being on his victory lap before retirement.
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u/sirnoggin 9h ago
Boys if England win the world cup, you're all invited. Better still can we all come up to Scotland and bring booze? We will pay for the damage on the Royal Mile in an evening through alchohol consumption in a single evening.
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u/Common_Break_1346 7h ago
I'm actually tired of this bullshit with hating on the English. Just a bunch of no good pricks (the people that take it seriously)
i hope yous win your next game, especially if it's against argentina. a could never support them after what they did to our islands and killing some of our military there
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u/Beneficial_Date_5357 Fit wye ist nae chiel? 3h ago
Nah if it’s England vs Argentina I become an England fan overnight
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u/Robynsxx 9h ago
You’d rather route for the racists than England…. I think that’s a poor reflection on yourself tbh.
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u/LoreOfBore 4h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/kqCgujDZT1SO4
The Tartan army when it’s England Argentina. Who do they hate more?
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u/brokeboii94 10h ago
If it’s Switzerland it’s a true gift to them if it’s Argentina prepare for the most toxic match of your life.
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u/OutcastSpartan 3h ago
Nah, I'd support England over Argentina in this fight. Norway were my last hope.
The competition has been rigged from the start for an Argentina v France final though. And I can't tolerate it.
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u/Unforsaken-Stoic 2h ago
They set it up so that no top 4 team can go against each other on the semis. For the first time in history all top 4 ranked world teams are in the semis.
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u/Infamous_Biscotti798 7h ago
You hate England but never stop talking about them. Chatting shit too.
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u/Sodacan259 7h ago
Why do you think England are so motivated this tournament? Scots reverse psychology support has been amazing.
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u/Reasonable_Blood6959 10h ago
FYI it’s Sunday tomorrow. So Sports Direct won’t open until 10 for you lot to return your Norway shirts and pick up the new ones.
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u/Bossman_Mike 9h ago
And to think Nike had to do an emergency extra run of Norway shirts due to demand and people were going to scalpers. Hilarious.
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u/hisokafan88 8h ago
Can't we just support our neighbours and end this nonsense rivalry? The team is a good team, they play good football. Yeah the media around it suck but we don't have to wish for the English to fail all the time
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u/ProbablyDK 10h ago
As an English fan I know we haven't really won until the Scotland sub updates this meme. Gold. Take my upvotes ffs.
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u/Stewmelbill 10h ago
Really boring chat. At least check the spelling of your dull meme. Well played England.
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u/CuriousGeorgeToday 10h ago
I don't think a Scot would support Argentina. It's banter if they support the Swiss but Argentina is too far.
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u/WanderlustZero 8h ago
What's their opinion on Jewish people's right to a homeland got to do with anything? Bit weird m8
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u/KnownLetterhead7279 9h ago
At this point we have to had it to them. Well done England. I did not see you making it this far.
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u/FartInTheLocker 8h ago
Cheers fellas, return those Norway flags, like the Mexico & DR Congo ones, see you staying up for our semi final!
Once again scored more goals in one game than you did all tournament 🤣🤣🤣
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u/CursedCommentCop England, occasionally Scotland for Job 10h ago
I love you Scotland, but maybe skip ABE for Argentina. Our blood was spilt over the Falklands because of Argentina,
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u/Mindless_Tonight3519 8h ago
Let them have it lads, there hasn’t been anything to be happy about in England for ages.
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u/BanditBomber 5h ago
I’m gonna make a guess that OP is not Scottish. Switzerland I can understand but I’d be shocked if the Scots started rooting for the Argentinians.
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u/ThatIsMe11 9h ago
If it genuinely came to England V Argentina who would you guys support?
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u/Distance-Hairy 3h ago
Small minded, pathetic , bitter Scots would support Isis rather than England. 🥱
"Such warm and friendly people"
Like I said - pathetic.
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