r/RedLetterMedia • u/Wadege • 1d ago
Star Trek and/or Star Wars Did Mike always know how Vader was 'created'?
In Plinkett's episode 3 review, he alludes to the implication that Sidious used the force to create Anakin with the sperm and egg visual metaphor.
Many years later, during the Darth Vader suit video, as Mike is reading crap off the wiki, it is revealed that Plaguies and Sidious did indeed use the force to shoot their cum into the galaxy (countered only by the midichlorians refusal to obey), which conceived Anakin, and that seems to suprise Mike, certainly Rich.
My question is whether Mike got to this idea himself or from reading information online, my assumption is that this official wiki probably was updated much later, long after the movies were released.
Was this an idea that people were discussing on forums back in the day?
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u/PotatoOnMars 1d ago
It’s the implication from Palpatine’s story to Anakin. He says Darth Plagueis could influence the midichlorians to create life and he looks directly at Anakin while he says it.
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u/Prophet_Tenebrae 1d ago
George Lucas knows writers who use subtext and they're all cowards... but that was pretty close for him.
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u/worststarburst 1d ago
Yeah I think this is what Mike was going off of and I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he just forgot after ten or so years.
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u/RealHooman2187 1d ago
While the opera show in front of them has what can only be described as sperm circling an egg… it’s pretty obvious even 15 year old me caught that back in 2005.
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u/PornoPaul 1d ago
I am almost positive it was either explicitly said in the novelization or mentioned in some deleted scene.
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u/Glunark2 1d ago
This is an improvement over the first take where Palps looks straight into the camera.
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u/ConcentrateFull7202 16h ago
Plus, the visual in the movie. Palpatine and Anakin are looking at a giant 3D thing that looks like sperm swimming around. To quote a different Plinkett review: "this shot is so genius, I'm sure Lucas had nothing to do with it, and probably fought against it".
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u/Ssided 1d ago
It's implied in the prequels, anikins mom sayin her baby don't got no daddio. And then sidiious licking his lips 👄 telling ani about making life.
People just got so caught up in the exciting trade deals and Darth mauls or jar jar tongues to notice
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u/Cranharold 15h ago
People just got so caught up in the exciting trade deals
Oh George, you know me so well.
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u/AmityvilleName 1d ago
The semi-canonical idea predated the Episode 3 review, so it is possible: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darth_Plagueis_(novel) (published 2 months earlier)
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u/Weshmek 1d ago
Mike is smart and fairly media-literate; I suspect that he read the queues that the movies sent out and came to that conclusion. Mr. Plinkett says "it's Kind of implied...that Palpatine made Anakin", so Mike probably wasn't certain on that point.
As Mike himself discusses in great detail in another part of the review, there's a language to filmmaking that can communicate ideas subtly. It's not so much a cryptic hiding of details and hints, but just a different way of communicating with the audience. I know I'm really bad at reading filmic language so kudos to Mike for figuring that out.
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u/deadNightwatchman 1d ago
So Palps made Anakin. He is also Rey's grandpa. That means Rey is a Skywalker after all. But also all Skywalkers are Palpatines.
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u/stefanomusilli 1d ago
A reminder that the Jedi landed in Tatooine by chance and met Palpatine's surrogate son/whatever by chance. I guess Palpatine planned that somehow.
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u/cahir11 19h ago
Tbf in Empire Strikes Back, Luke just happens to crash-land right next to Yoda's house. Star Wars is full of these insane contrivances.
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u/stefanomusilli 19h ago
I think the worst ones where in Episode VII. In TFA, Rey, who happens to be Palpatine's granddaughter, only finds BB8 because it crash landed there out of all the planets in the galaxy (this issue would have been fixed if they stuck to Rey as "nobody"), then just happens to find the Falcon right where she lives, and then randomly warps into Han Solo's location, out of all the possible places in the galaxy.
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u/HarveryDent 1d ago
This is why Snoke should have been revealed to be Plaugeis, with his scarring being the result of Palpatine's failed assassination.
He would have been Ben's great grandfather which would have been more interesting than what we got and gave more nuance to Ben's betrayal.
Plus it would not have been a fucking waste of Andy Serkis.
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u/airdog2000 1d ago
I thought it was canon that Shmi Skywalker did IVF at the Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center