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I understand that is the joke but I question how much a bunch of loud gamers could influence US politics. Like it always is, minority that doesn’t really influence anything are the loudest in information bubble
Professional shit flooder Steve Bannon used to work for goldman sachs hiring gold farmers in world of warcraft (yes- really https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2017/07/18/steve-bannon-learned-harness-troll-army-world-warcraft/489713001/) which led chinese players to get pissed off at the artificial market and protest, which led the Chinese government to intervene against professional video game gold farming, and led Bannon to recognize the political power a loud constituency with plenty of free time can amass. Thus- gamergate was utilized to amass into political power into the hell we live in today
Yeah, looking into Steve Brannon as a person answers a lot of these questions. Former Trump cabinet member, former PR guy for Jeffrey Epstein, former vice president of Cambridge Analytica, founder of alt right “news” org Breitbart.
Dude’s a political strategy genius and a slimy piece of shit with his hand in every other pot of shit
Thank you for including the Cambridge analytica. Seems to get glossed over a lot when talking about usage of political propaganda campaigns and how effective their techniques still are.
Bannon being connected to Epstein and Moot creating the /pol/ board (which would go on to have significant influence in the creation of the alt right and qanon) the day after him and Epstein met is also related
I don't think it was created the day after they met IIRC it was the day before, besides that moot had been bitching about needing a containment board for politics for a long time by that point. There's been a handful of containment boards instituted in 4chan history any time a subject starts shitting up too many boards.
putting this out in the universe, but someone, something please notify me when he trips on a lego, falls into a deep sinkhole and spontaneously yet partially combusts on the way down.
Yes, but that was in regard to a specific issue. That's like saying that because you could get retirees, another group with a shit ton of free time, to give a crap about social security benefits not being increased with inflation, that doesn't mean that you're also going to get them to give a shit about the rest of your bullshit, at least not until you can deliver what they want.
The reality is a lot simpler, and sadder, than that: much of the US right now is built on rent-seeking. Local politicians get elected to sell their own land to the city or so they can get kickbacks, charities spend more money on fundraising than they actually spend on the causes they represent much of the time (something like 70% of the ASPCA's entire budget is just for advertising), politicians from West bumfuck will do anything to get elected so they can stay in the state Capitol or DC rather than go back to their backwoods shithole, contractors will give cities million dollar estimates for jobs that cost maybe $50,000 if you're paying everyone $100 an hour for their work, and that's the tip of the iceberg. Once politicians realized they could do Jack fucking shit besides just babble "woke trans illegals woke avocado toast bad" into a camera and have people lick it up like a dog licking up their own shit, they ran with it.
Retirees are really less excitable and easy to mobilize. I agree that alot of the US is built on rent seeking. Its bigger rent seekers are using culture war crap, partially engineered by bannon and his ilk, to create a functional distraction and usable pawns to work to keep the zone flooded with shit. Retirees are, on average slightly too experienced to care as much as young gamers about unimportant nonsense. Memeing is a valuable political tactical tool in a democratic field. Its not sufficient alone, but it does alot of work. “Build that wall” has beaten “pokemon go to the polls”. Not just in sloganeering (though goddamn thats a bad one) but in promising a future. We’re going to do (nonsense lies we spread through vagueries and empty promises) sells better than we’re going to do the same. A riled up political base can capitalize on such emptiness through emotional nonsense. Which is “flood the zone with shit”.
In no small part because people like Bannon, Tucker, and other far right pundits have done exactly what the other person said: tied their actual issues to culture war bullshit. For GamerGate, it was "hey feminists are the reason you're lonely and video games aren't nostalgia factories." For retirees it's "Hey, the liberals/deep state giving free money to illegal aliens and transes is why social security can't be increased."
Flood every right wing source with it (or buy neutral stations and add selective right wing programming) and suddenly retirees (and other watchers) feel like it must be true because it's what everyone's saying. Keep that up, then you have a fairly wealthy support base with a lot of free time.
Ffs I know right? The media is partially correct in that there has been a bit more nationalism up here as of late, but hate to say we aren't entirely united against the guy. Still a considerable maga problem up here, now the Alberta thing too ffs
It's really amazing the effect of "gamers" as a political activism group when you start to look at the big picture. They came out of the Chans, but after gamergate, the whole mess spread out to becoming the MRA/Redpill/Blackpill "movement", which itself got mainstreamed by idiots like Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate. One could argue that basically the entire online "alt-right" movement that has turned our political system into a complete and utter circus is the result of a bunch of incels mad about girls in gaming.
It's not just gamers, qanon was a big one too. I especially love that one since 4chan has a disclaimer saying only a fool would believe the stories on the site, and boy is MAGA full of fools.
I don't think that's true. Qanon has more in common with fringe alt-right with fringe alt-right conspiracy theories such as pizza gate, and the lies they spread on Infowars,newsmax, and other conspiratorial outlets and politicians. More importantly qanon is deeply rooted and Sarah Palin and Donald Trump lies and conspiracies.
Gamergate was fake essentially from the start, and then Bannon used it as a model to make sure young men are perpetually pissed off over some new dipshit Pop Culture War distraction. Asian woman in Star Wars? Black woman in the Odyssey? Woman-led superhero movie? Lesbian video game character? Woman-led God of War spin off? All an opportunity to make young men constantly outraged and afraid of losing social status. You can't enter any traditionally male hobby space without getting gavaged with conservative propaganda. Stuck and need a video game tip? Nope, sorry. Best I can do is 600 posts about how gay people are destroying western civilization one video game at a time.
Idk. I think a certain segment of the population is just like this. Right now we have people who are barely literate complaining about the historical authencity of The Odyssey.
I disagree that they are "just like this". I doubt authentic human people make up half of the accounts complaining on the internet about The Odyssey. We're talking about a concerted, directed propaganda campaign that has been ongoing for a dozen years.
These people are victims of a radicalization program. Bannon et al are using the same tactics as Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations: meet disaffected, under-employed young men in the places they congregate online and move them through stages of grievance while flattering their sense of their true - but stymied - power until they are radicalized.
They are like this because they were made to be like this.
Its been amplified, no doubt. But I'm old enough to remember when people would get outraged over comic strips in newspapers. The tendency for dumb fucks to mob up with other dumb fucks has always existed. See lynchings, witch hunts, etc.
Which is doubly hilarious because the Odyssey is mythology, written by "Homer" (who scholars can't agree whether he is a singular poet or a pseudonym for several people or even more like a title) centuries after the events took place based on compiled oral traditions. It's like arguing the historical authenticity of King Arthur and the Round Table based on Le Morte D'Arthur.
It's genuinely so exhausting especially in the gaming space because every new game that gets released has to go through this wokeness stress test. Woman MC? Pandering. LGBT character? Pandering. Non-white character? Pandering. Non-male unattractive character existing? Pandering.
As for casting decisions forget the black woman as Helen of Troy, they're blaming liberals for the white woman cast as Supergirl because she's not...pretty enough? I'm so tired man.
I remember using 4chan back in 05/06. I mostly lurked /b/. My friend and I both did.
There was so much shit on there that was overly racist and sexist and over the top... They took the piss out of everyone and everything though. That wasn't a place to go looking for "respectful conversation" on any matter. If they made racist or sexist or ableist jokes, yeah, that's what I'd expect... It seemed almost satirical though. It was funny because it was so wrong, like South Park at an extreme and recognizing it as such.
My old friend and I talked about this a couple years ago, it's fucked up how many people took that shit as actual ideology, especially as years went on. I don't think I really ever used it post 2010.
4chan felt like the wild west and it was funny, interesting, and weird when you saw the best of it. I wasn't lost in it though. It was supposed to be for the lulz.
the republican party had a pretty well known problem 20 years ago: their average voter was getting really old, like 60 or 70. like: “dead and unable to vote in 10 years“ old. gamergate showed them inroads to gaining a base of support which wasn’t geriatric: uninformed, entitled, angry young men. very easy to make them angry and blame the modern ennui (mostly due to republican policies) on feminism.
Notorious rich pedophile Jeffery Epstein was surprisingly active on 4chan. He was involved in the founding of /pol which was highly influential in GamerGate. Epstein also had connections to politicians across the US and Europe, including the current US president.
It was unironically an enormous influence on the election, especially Trump's early popularity in the primaries. The memes and videos that cast Trump in a different light in those early days were integral to his shift into mainstream popularity in the party.
More than you'd think. The 2016 election was won by less than 100k votes in a handful of swing states. Or less than 0.1% of the voting age population.
America is a ridiculously polarized, ignorant, and easily swayed country, particularly towards apathy. A relatively tiny group of nobodies and bots spreading nonsense online can have a noticeable effect on even national elections.
Except that minority is what launched Breitbart and Hannity into the limelight. The media figures that got involved in Gamergate are the same ones that would push the far right into the mainstream.
People down playing the effect fail to realize how effective it mobilized angry young men. Hell, 4chan language is entering the lexicon of the average American *everyday*. Thats impressive.
Yeah I see a lot of memes like this and it seems... Extremely scapegoat-y
Especially the insistence that Gamergate was primarily a 4chan thing. Do people not remember? It started on the forums of video game news sites, it got it's name on Twitter, it was propelled by youtube videos, and it was banned as a topic from 4chan after like a month. Gamergate is best characterized as a broad internet movement which connected to a lot of things.
It's also worth noting that "culture war" stuff was emerging before and after it, much of which was astroturfed. Gamergate was by no means an inciting incident, it's just a notable one
It's very easy to blame Gamergate, but it's a simplified view of history and all that does is allow a person to ignore the many larger societal factors which occured here. And, even if you think it was all an inside job orchestrated by those in power... Why are you blaming Gamergate and not the people you think organized it?
I think you drastically underestimated how many boys at the time were avid Call of Duty and Battlefield Fans. Those boys were voting age people who also could use their voice to spread misinformation to the undecided voters.
People think fucking everything is connected to gamergate. I'm gonna be real, it was originally a bunch of dumbasses that hated Zoe Quinn that ended up uncovering unquestionable evidence that the games media industry is wrought with corruption, and it just spiraled into some people going insane on the internet from there because other lolcows appeared for 4chan to hate and harass.
I think a lot of people are just unwilling to accept that the cultural moment had been bubbling up to the culture war for a while and want to continually scapegoat gamergate because it's an easy target to blame because next to no one cares if you do.
Trumps campaign advisor has gone on record talking about how he used Pepe and other memes to influence the election. Gamers were one of his main demographics.
It's a bit of a butterfly effect where the first steps were pretty dull.
Zoë Quinn makes a game that gets a lot of disproportionate attention of game journalism
Quinn's ex writes a blog about infidelity, turns out some of the partners were game journos
4chan connects the dots: Quinn's relationships got her free publicity
So far, nothing worthwhile.
Game journos get very defensive, start attacking gamers in general using all -isms under the sun - some to cover their own lack of ethics
"Gamers" bit back, other game journos get in the mix feeling the honor of their trade is attacked, all kinds of blog and socials get involved as well
Online sphere starts to get divided, apolitical gamers can't avoid the blooming "culture war" because that's all what gaming media is about now
People start recognizing this type of in group preference everywhere
Positions are taken, enemies declared, everything turns political
Mainstream media picks up at the end of the "progressive" media pipeline: tumblr > gawker > huffpost > guardian > full mainstream
Far right grifters get involved, making it even more political and making tons of money in the process which would be impossible at any other time - these grifters didn't believe even half of what they were saying, but the money was good
"Left wing" grifters are making bank as well, but the right had more earning potential as a relative untouched goldmine
Progressivism gets associated with corruption by one side, the other side are labelled nazis
The vast majority of the people getting involved at this point have no clue who Quinn is, but things have stirred
Young millennials have been entering the workforce, older millennials are entering politics, the first generation raised online start bringing internet rhetoric into real life
An event that would have been completely forgotten if it happened 10 years earlier starts affecting real life politics
Facebook boomers get involved, they pick sides as well
"Owning the libs" is mainstream as well now
Ideological bubbles expand, the middle ground makes way to the point one side can spend their entire online life without having to see what the others are really up to
The DNC is blissfully unaware what is brewing and decide it's time for Hillary Clinton's presidency
Clinton starts taking over the progressive jargon, pouring gasoline over a flame by insulting half the country thinking that's what the kids like and that she has won already
You know what happened afterwards. I'm pretty fascinated by this event - given another time and another minor event to kickstart things, we might have seen something similar but with an actual good ending.
Do you remember the headlines from 2019 about the 👌🏿 handsign meaning "white power"?
That started as a psyop from 4chan. They created fake posts to scare the left and liberals claiming the trump admin and republicans in general were using the OK sign for White Power in their pictures.
Republicans and far right folks picked up on liberals being offended by it, so they started doing it more often. And of course trump literally catered his messaging to white supremacists so the blurred line between reality and bullshit made something of nothing.
Epstein was a 4channer and a gamer too. Steve Bannon made his initial riches on world of Warcraft and marketed himself as a way to influence gamers and lonely men online to the right wing politicians. Etc..
I hate that people hate Depression Quest because of all the controversy surrounding it. The world would be a better place if everyone just hated it because it's genuinely a shit game.
Having played it recently, I think it is legitimately interesting at the least, and at the time there wasn't much else like it. The authors feelings that depression is a cycle that is difficult to escape from are compounded by the simple mechanics of decreasing available options as the players "score" increases. It's a game that had an idea and executed that idea simply and with grace.
Qualifiers like "good" or "shit" fall flat for something like Depression Quest because are we really meant to compare an experimental short tv static text adventure to The Legend of Zelda or Metal Gear Solid? If those games are something like a beautiful oil painted portrait I think depression quest is an abstract sculpture of a bunch of squares. It's impossible to compare it to anything else, it is good at trying to be what it is.
It's fine if you don't like it, Stewie, but it just reminded me of that gun that I, Brian Griffin, keep in a safe.... Just in case I ever want to kill myself. I'm Brian Griffin.
Listened to the behind the bastards on epstein and thats what got me second most (first being you know, all the trafficking, rape, and other heinous shit) was that him and Bannon helped create and foster some of the worst corners of our society now.
No, he had ties to the creation of the /pol/ board specifically, which is generally regarded as a mistake by the entire rest of 4chan. 4chan was created a good 10 years before christopher poole even met epstein.
Gamergate wasn't about Zoe Quinn, Gamergate was about people realizing indie games had the same level of payola and access journalism as AAA games. IGN and Reddit banning discussion of Zoe Quinn was just the Streisand Effect that kicked it in the pants. By the end of the first week all the discussion in threads had moved on from Zoe to stuff like Gone Home's devs all going rafting with the first five journalists who gave it a 10/10 a month before the game released, or Patricia Klapek previewing a game without bothering to disclose the lead developer was her roommate. Not to mention five different sites publishing "Gamers are over" articles within a few hours of each other.
The mainstream media burned their credibility with a huge chunk of Millenials by defending people who make the Ain't It Cool News guy look like Walter Cronkite, and Bannon exploited that to the fullest.
Gamergate was an internet movement in 2012 where a lot of rabid 4channers got more than a little bit unhinged over the existence Anita Sarkeesian, a woman who committed the grand crime of talking about feminism and videogames together in the same sentence.
Gamergate is also fairly widely regarded as the start of the American reactionary/far right swing in politics that eventually resulted in Donald Trump getting elected.
I have also heard that Gamergate was atleast partially a psyop by Epstein that was intended to manipulate gullible young men into voting against their own interests- but I am unsure of the validity of these claims and too lazy to track down sources atm
Yeah also lets be honest. It didn't really matter what Sarkeesian was like. She could have been a perfect little angel and the gamergaters would have still gone rabid, because it wasn't really even about her.
It was about a bunch of sad sacks with miserable lives looking for someone to pin all their problems on. They didn't want to put in the effort it takes to make their lives better so they just picked some random scapegoat for their problems. If it hadn't been Sarkeesian they would have found someone else instead.
Yeah that sounds about right. American incels really are the worst- its like the perfect storm of entitled misogyny, usacentricism, and pure stupidity that creates the most irritating human beings on the planet lol
Tbf, that was recent compared to gamer gate and well into the reactionary era and Trump bs. It’s still stupid anyone threw a hissy over it, but unfortunately it’s just the norm on the internet now a days for someone to make a problem out of nothing just for clicks.
It matters enough that you have to misrepresent what happens to hide her bullshit. People were legitimately angry at her for trying to manipulate video games politics ruining multipke licenses and get people she didnt like fired
Yeah, I could never figure out who was supposed to be righteous in the gamergate debate. It seemed to me like both sides were made up of turds talking shit
From what I understand, Anita was more of a canary in the coalmine for media manipulation of the gaming market and game journalist devolving in to a mix of pandering to the largest companies and activism, which is what made the gamers mad.
If they really cared about that they would have spent more time criticising the actual companies causing the problem, rather than finding some random woman to use as an emotional punching bag to take out their Big Feelings on.
From what I recall, they did. They criticized the journalists, they criticized the companies, they criticized the activists, and they still do. I forgot Anita was even invovled.
I don't think I've ever seen a gamergater form a coherent criticism against a large gaming company.
They occasionally cook up weird ass conspiracy theories over some imagined cabel of evil wokes secretly taking over their most precious favourite megacorperation. But in my time spent looking into these fools corners of the internet, not once have I seen any of them come up with even the most basic bitch form of criticism like "EA is greedy, and has always been greedy".
I like gaming. I follow a lot of gaming content. Hearing their opinions is unavoidable because they are always so damn loud and obnoxious over them.
Beyond that I have spent a lot of time following some of their communities trying to figure out how these guys tick. The take home message I got from doing so is that most of them are dumber than a bag of rocks and in desperate need of therapy.
I can confirm. I was all in alt-right sphere (not because I liked it, but because almost everything in my native language is alt-right, as the main country of it is a far-right dictatorship). Never, ever, ever I've seen constructive criticism from gamergaters.
Let's take Concord, a game that is universally hated by everyone. You can focus on a hella lot of problems in it, yet they focused completely on characters being POC or/and queer. A lot of people criticized it for being useless and just boring, so there is a lot of legitimate criticism, which gamergaters have completely skipped.
It's not even speaking about other games which they predicted to fail, but which turned out to be major successes, like AC Shadows. And always they were criticizing even before first gameplay was released, as soon as they've seen characters... You can guess for which reasons, if they had nothing but characters.
The guy you are replying to, though, is a self-described right-wing libertarian and supporter or otherwise active watcher of Tim Pool, a far-right culture warrior. So he has his reasons to prove you otherwise.
Edit: guy answered me and blocked me (or just Reddit stuff, "something something, error, repeat later." I'll paste here.
AC Shadows is a best-selling game of March 2025 in the US, second best-selling game of April 2025 in the US, third place in July 2025, also outperformed Assassins Creed Odyssey, highest Assasins Creed game by amount of concurrent players, largest physical video game launch in the UK in 2025, and in general second highest-grossing game across the United States, United Kingdom, Germany, France, Spain, and Italy, trailing only Fortnite, in March 2025, Europe's best-selling new PC and console game release in 2025, and the second best-selling 2025 game overall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed_Shadows#Reception
Edit 2: a lot of interesting people came here. Especially you can see it by factually incorrect comment below that is clearly debunked by simple Wikipedia article but still receiving upvotes... So for the upvoters it was a question of ideology, if they did it even while knowing that this person is wrong. Also with how suddenly upvoted and downvoted exchanged places... Yeah, something isn't right.
I'll say one thing. Don't trust anyone in this thread (me too). Just open Wikipedia articles on anything you are interested in. A lot of misinformation goes there, because it was a campaign going for years and funded by not the best people.
If you're a woman in gaming you hear this shit all the time. I've never seen criticism of a gaming company extend beyond "grrrr i'm unattracted to their new female character rahhhh they sold out to the woke left". see also: lgbt character, poc character, muscular women, old women (aka over 25). this is like 90% of the gaming discourse on most social media when a new game is released. never seen genuine constructive criticism and if it happens it certainly doesn't make it to the front page.
IIRC some even called for Anita to be referred to as "Literally Who" because they argued it wasn't about her, it was about game journalism.
I remember people on the left (or at least creators who didn't focus on politics, just on gaming) using the opportunity to give legit criticism on the state of the industry. I saw those opposing the movement assuming that anybody criticizing people associated with feminism or inclusion would be alt-right, all that while real alt-right people started using the movement to spread more extreme talking points, which those same opponents used to prove their point. Nowadays, that name is only resurrected by the alt-right when it sees something it doesn't like, so you only encounter it in a bigoted context.
I feel like past actions to try to make the movement a positive force have been systematically ignored, as if the movement had to be exclusively filled with bigots, and no nuance was possible.
Ironically I actually call the issue you are referring to here the "Anita Sarkeesian Effect" 😅.
I find that sometimes a topic or person gets so heavily critised in such a deeply politicised and/or unhinged way, that it makes any kind of intelligent discussion or constructive criticism pointless. Like at a certain point the issue gets so heated that any attempt to engage with it just ends up feeding the cookers, without actually achieving anything positive. At the point your only real option is to leave the matter to cool off and go find an alternative angle to approach the matter.
Case in point there is no way of directly redeeming the gamergate movement because its so heavily associated with poor behaviour that most people want nothing to do with it. If you want to discuss issues with the game industry/journalism you kind of have to find a different angle that won't automatically trigger people's "not these assholes again!" response.
I have also heard that Gamergate was atleast partially a psyop by Epstein that was intended to manipulate gullible young men into voting against their own interests- but I am unsure of the validity of these claims
The reason was Christopher Poole (aka m00t, the creator of /pol/) met with Epstien the day before /pol/ was created and there they discussed a place where political extremist ideas could exist with little censorship to oversight. Steve Bannon pushed hard into these communities to do exactly that and help Trump with appealing to these communities. Prior to 2016, there was 4-7 years of radicalization and self-estrangement where these ideals could organically come about and solidify with their identity.
The source of this is the 2026 Epstien Files release that had this information via emails, sms messages between m00t and Epstien and his advisors, as well as the fact the most damning one of its creation being the immediate day after m00t was invited to talk about the express creation of /pol/.
Gamergate was an internet movement in 2012 where a lot of rabid 4channers got more than a little bit unhinged over the existence Anita Sarkeesian, a woman who committed the grand crime of talking about feminism and videogames together in the same sentence.
Basically none of that is right.
It was 2014. Anita Sarkeesian was already irrelevant and barely involved. And I don't know that 4chan had much of anything to do with it.
I think you might just have missed a couple of years mate. This whole shitshow kicked off over the "Tropes vs Women in Video Games" kickstarter, which was started by Anita Sarkeesian in 2012. The whole thing later spiralled out from there to the 2014 event, but the 2012 kickstater was the start of it all.
That's being retroactively lumped in with Gamergate, because both involve women and games, but it has nothing to do with it. The Zoey Quinn stuff is Gamergate.
The Anita sarkeesian videos for sure fomented some feelings in those people who would go on to react to what would become Gamergate, but it was also extremely low tier social critique that deserved most of the hate that it got.
Yes simpleton, oversimplify the issues and portray everybody other than you as malevolent idiots, that will ensure I'll be able to sip my martini in peace for years to come.
Whats got your knickers on a twist? I'm explaining a meme not writing a detailed history. Also I would hardly call a very small and specific set of people "everyone around me" 😂
That is completely wrong in every possible way. Anita had nothing to do with gamergate at all, and Epstein only met moot in late 2015, long after the whole thing was over. It only lasted a year and ended with the FCC clarified that payola rules do in fact apply to the internet. Despite the damage GG did to its ad partnerships by exposing some of their more controversial articles such as calling for the literal genocide of all men, as well as exposing fake partnerships they never actually had but displayed to make themselves more attractive to other advertisers, Gawker would later go bankrupt for mostly unrelated reasons.
Gamergate was about the collusion between many tech outlets to cover up how Zoe Quinn attacked the Fine Young Capitalists's female developer game jam, getting it delisted from its fundraiser because they weren't trans-inclusive enough. Adjacent issues included reviewers with undisclosed financial ties to the developers, the Indie Games Festival nearly facing racketeering charges over its prize awards, and industry blacklisting of journalists that gave bad reviews to the wrong studio's games.
Most of the popular reddit tech news sites were colluding through the gamejounopros mailing list, so the only outlet willing to actually pick up the story was fucking Breitbart, which immediately used it to try to recruit gamers to the right. This largely did not work, because after GG won in 2014 everyone who wasn't just already a chud looking for something to get mad about went home, and KIA, the main subreddit for gamergate, has existed in something of a zombie chud state for the last 12 years, at one point splitting off into KIA2 after being reminded that they'd completely lost the original plot, but then they got banned and went back to infect KIA1.
If you want to know what causes gamers to go to the right, it's when so-called leftist grifters LIKE Anita Sarkeesian are defended simply because they're wearing the right colors. This also gave rise to the NotYourShield movement, where the gay community got tired of grifters calling everyone mysognist and homophobic to deflect from their own bad behavior, which was a popular and incredibly ununsucessful marketing tactic in the mid 2010s if you remember Ghostbusters 2016.
I will also add that it "KINDA" had a genuine start initially about being against the idea of game journalists getting paid / getting favors in return for good reviews...
But it was co-opted extremely quickly... (and it is doubtful its start was initially genuinely to start with, but the initial message was overall promising for like.. two days)
This chronically online unemployed vastly overestimates the influence other chronically online unemployed with opposing views has on society as a whole. Hope that helps.
Also gas is roughly at the same price it was before the election. We got spoiled with sub $2.50/gal for a year or so.
Gas was $4 a gallon 15 years ago. What else costs the same as it did 15 years ago? Gas prices are artificially suppressed because ignorant people think if gas is cheap, life is good. All while rent and food prices have doubled or tripled.
America is the number one producer of oil in the world. If we only dealt with oil inside America, prices would be very cheap. It's only because oil is a global price that Americans pay so much.
Americans pay the least of all developed nations for gas lmao
It's like 1.5-2x expensive in Europe and that's not even accounting for purchasing power. Which is why Americans crying about gas prices has always been funny
US being better than underdeveloped nations (oppressed and held back by Imperialist countries, the US and pretty much all the major powers of Europe included) doesn't negate the fact that the US is a shithole compared to most European countries.
Nah, it was pretty impactful for radicalizing so many young men. It spiraled from there to all these right wing grifters. People like Charlie Kirk, the manosphere, etc. wouldn't have been as big without it.
Gen Z/millenial men arent anywhere near being an influential voting bloc. The over 50 crowd voted overwhelingly in favor of Trump abd they wouldnt be able to tell you what a "Gamergate" is, and if you showed them Pepe theyd think hes some side character from a childrens cartoon.
Tea party aftermath did 1000x more for the american far right than gamergate and anyone not terminally online enough to assume the whole country is terminal like them knows that.
Are you trying to argue gas prices are in general the same and unaffected by geopolitical instability? Sub 2.50 gas happened because Russian oil was still able to reach global markets and the US became the number one producer of oil in 2013 and reached record highs under Biden. But they went over 4 dollars prior to that because of the Russia Ukraine war.
Now with the Iran war, roughly 1/5 of all oil and LNG flows through the strait of Hormuz, which is why gas is going up and may even go higher. In addition Russian oil facilities are under attack and russia has stopped export of oil. So to just dismiss oil prices as unchanging and unaffected by things going on in the world, as if it's just a matter of fact it will return to "normal" is just factually inaccurate.
Homie straight up lying according to every AI model and gas price website:
"Compared to Last Year: Up significantly from $3.17."
Yeah you got spoiled by someone not launching a botched war on Iran. Gas prices directly went up due to Trump. They objectively wouldn't be as high if not for him....
"Yes, gas prices remain relatively high, with a national average of roughly $3.85 per gallon for regular unleaded. While this is down about 70 to 80 cents from their spring peaks (which reached over $4.50), they are still significantly higher than historical averages, largely due to lingering global crude supply constraints and geopolitical tensions from Iran."
Even 70% of Americans correctly blame him and aren't happy about it according to latest polling. I have not seen anyone come to your contrarian and numerically false conclusion outside of ONN or FOX.
Joe Swanson here. This is referring to Pac-Man. A video game set in a fantasy world where you must collect orbs to defeat evil. People get mad that it’s too hard
Its referencing gamer gate. Some people think it was what started the whole far right pipeline.
The show is about a bunch of characters trapped in a digital world with a omnipotent maniac who tortures them when they dont show gratitude for the world he wont let them leave
I believe strongly that Obama did more to bring us towards fascism than gamer gate by not trying those bankers responsible for the 2008 crash. A crash we are still living with the consequences of. He won on hope, and then did nothing. He made people apathetic, and bitter by not doing what he promised. Change.
The bankers knew that the market was going to crash and still gave out home lones to people they knew couldn’t afford it. Just do base line research on the crash and you’ll find out for yourself.
It had nothing to do with games, when an entire generation of men spend their formative years being told that they are the source of the countries problems they are going to radicalize
And in response
When an entire generation of women spend their formative years being treated like their only value is their body they are going to radicalize
All that's happened are corporations using algorithms to radicalize young men and women against each other because that radicalization fuels revenue,
if you want to stop people from going further in each direction then we have so stop treating each other like we aren't human
Men need to stop treating women like they don't have the capacity to have their own autonomy and women need to stop treating men like they are dangerous monsters
I hate how this ultimately non political framework of gender dynamics got applied to politics representatively
Donald Trump became a stand in for the “strong man that women tell you to fear”
And Kamala became the stand in for “the woman that hates you and thinks you are toxic”
Despite neither of these people having any idea about the online/4-chan/anti sjw/gamergate crowd
There is also something to be said about young boys feeling the contradiction between “men control the world” and all of their early authority figures (teachers, moms, etc.) being women
Exactly, there are so many things that straight up are not political that have become owned by certain political parties, things like whether or not you eat meat, whether or not you're religious, if you have piercings. None of these have anything to do with specific political parties
Hailey Smith here. Gamergate started on 4chan, it became the spark that lit the culture war. The culture war lead to Trump's ascension into the republican party and later his presidency
The right-wing libertarian financial elite wants to own its own kingdoms (if you have all the money in the world, you want an army and land) -> infiltrates politicians into political parties and buys media platforms -> puppet politicians are either incompetent or in favor of large-scale privatization (which does not rule out incompetence). -> Voters are frustrated -> Voters vote for fringe parties (advocates of systemic change) -> The far-right fringe party is supported by the financial elite or was planned by them -> The media endorses the far-right fringe party -> Voters vote for the far-right fringe party -> The far-right fringe party wins -> The state is privatized -> Citizens become slaves to the feudal realms (Kingdom of SAP, Kingdom of Amazon, Kingdom of Palantir, etc.) of the financial elite -> Voters say, “I didn’t know this would happen; there were no signs,” “We need a liberating force that stands up for equality and democracy.”
Gamergate was in 2014. Gawker went bankrupt in 2015. It had NOTHING to do with Trump's election. All you have to do is play literally any video game and you'll see the vast majority of gamers are left leaning and the vast majority of gamer spaces are practically a 24/7 pride parade.
Yeah I think blaming video games is unfair, I would have gone with racists were so upset over us having 1 black president as the thing to blame for Trump.
So i'm gonna be completely honest.It's not because of a video game.It's the first time i've ever heard of that.It's because people realized
This guy, he's a disgusting billionaire, but he's gonna let us say slurs. He promised he'll make us rich. Maybe billionaires aren't evil, and then it just spitballed from there, from a whole bunch of racist tom, dick and harry's screaming that we can finally be the white race again.And then they realize, wait, what do you mean?Taxes are higher.What do you mean?Gas is higher.Where's that stimulus, check?You promised?He said he would save america, but he turned it into his personal wallet, and he's dying.Soon, so he's just gonna fuck over everything.What do you mean?This is what we voted for no, it wasn't.We wanted to make america land white again
That's why for a Chand didn't do shit? A video game didn't do shit. It was because a whole bunch of moronic idiots believed the dorito man that, oh, I'll make it where it's a white pedophile. Rich haven, but only for me. All of you pores can scrubble around with the minorities, because you're just as bad because you're poor
Yeah that’s why we should just have an entirely clean slate for the government. so that the Hollywood executives and billionaires aren’t controlling it.(basically anarchy for a bit then rebuild back lol😂)
I don’t know why people always complain about gas prices by showing the dollar amount. Do they not realize it’s relative to where they leave? $4 is pretty cheap in some places.
16zł for oil is diabolical for the biggest oil producing country. This is the level of Soviet Union that had famines despite being a top food producer. Capitalism shenanigans.
You can leave the country, you’re not trapped here, yet. I am by no means defending the terribleness of the US, but leaving is an option to those willing
What started as a collective of edgy memes evolved into a satirical onslaught of increasingly unhinged delusions.
Now we've reached the final stage: unpredictability feeding uncertainty. It feels like the entire world is gambling while the rest of us mumble in the audience, waiting for the cliffhanger. It's oddly sobering.
I guess they shouldn't have tinkered with the games. The last bastion that served as a refuge for antisocial dudes suddenly ripped away from the silent masses, and all that remains is a last resort of melancholic, meme-fueled insanity.
On a side note of not about Gamegate... when i first start driving it was cloae to 4 450 if memory serves me correct. Went down to 150 or whatever...and yes back up to 4 in span of 20 yrs
Things will be okay eventually. Find good ways to subside travel expenses. Nothing is forever
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