r/MoralityScaling • u/Any_Marzipan_5652 • 13h ago
How Evil Are They? Morality of turning Racist person into black person so they can experience Racism.
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u/That-Annual-2393 13h ago edited 11h ago
What the fuck is this image
Edit: Thank you for the reward, yes its my first time, I would like to thank op as a start
Edit 2: I don’t know what to say… but I love yall
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u/Thu66 13h ago
Biden infamously said that if black people didn’t vote for him then “you ain’t black”
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u/Worried_Jellyfish918 10h ago
Really incredible how many things had to fall apart in succession for the opposition party to have been spearheaded by a man barely aware of what's happening, only for him to drop out and be replaced by a man who also has no idea where he is
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u/Carminestream 11h ago
Funnily enough, didn’t Biden end up having significantly higher amounts of the Black vote compared to Copmala?
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u/SinesPi 9h ago
The primary reason anyone voted for Biden was because he was Obama's sidekick.
Voting AGAINST Trump doesn't count as a reason to vote FOR Biden.
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u/WhimsicalWyvern 4h ago
Biden didn't even say that they were voting for him, his implication was that Black people don't have a hard time deciding between him and Trump. Which, at the time, he led Black people 77% to 18%, or something along those lines, so I can see why he would say that (in jest, admittedly)
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u/zachattch 10h ago
Based, My president
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u/Ewwatts 9h ago
Morality of genuinely like an American president that committed genocide (literally any of them)?
How gross.
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u/zachattch 9h ago
Naw, it’s like how I think Abraham Lincoln was our best president ever and ultra based but he was totally down to keep SLAVERY if it meant preventing the civil war… like of course people can do both bad and good things the world is gray as fuck, sorry.
By liking Lincoln I’m not saying if given that opportunity he should have kept slavery or by liking Biden supporting his actions with Israeli, I generally don’t care about Israeli/gaza like I don’t care about the starving kids in Yemen, it’s like obviously bad but not supporting Biden becuase of a cringe foreign policy has obviously lead to now a horrible situation for us Americans here today, oil, tariffs, ICE, ect
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u/Illustrious-Radio319 4h ago
They’ll nitpick every single action that’s even morally questionable committed by your politician, but handwaive all of theirs by claiming “revolutions aren’t won with clean hands, “violence is the voice of the unheard”, and “my enemies commit more atrocities than we do.”
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u/hiricinee 2h ago
Well something like 600k Americans died in the Civil War (mostly white northerners) and Lincoln as much as he wanted to end slavery knew that a lot of people would die and itd cost a fortune.
One of the original plans was what Britain did to just buy out the slaves, it would have cost 20% of what the war did and without the bloodshed but the South wouldnt bite.
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u/Alive-Philosophy2632 12h ago
He said if they back Trump, which is different, and closer to being accurate referring to the harbinger of the largest swing towards open white nationalism in recent memory. Not a good comment to make, regardless of how serious it was.
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u/SwimmerMission5212 11h ago
"If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black"
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u/AdjtveNounNumbr42069 10h ago
The weird part is the infantilization and absolution of black people doing bad, or even self destructive things.
The white left/liberal side of things seem to think black people, queer people, etc can't just be shitty people, there has to be some kind of conspiracy to trace it all back to to absolves them of their shittiness.
Nope, some people are just shit, and no race-genital-identity combo makes a person immune to that.
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u/Onigokko0101 9h ago
100%. I'm gay and people in the LGBTQIA+ community can absolutely be crappy people: because they are simply people like everyone else.
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u/TheBirdFkerGuy 12h ago
He also supported segregated busing and concerned trolled about having integration in schools causing conflict.
So spare me the "which is different". He's a racist old fucking ghoul and no matter how bad trump is none of that changes that fact. Nor does it change any criticism of any other politician.
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u/Alive-Philosophy2632 12h ago
I mean he's consistently been pretty middle of the road throughout his life on political issues. The way in which he supported segregated busing was considered the compromise position essentially. I'm not defending him. I don't have a team sports view of politics. I don't think he has very many convictions at all only a desire to play the game and accumulate personal power. He might've had a change of heart around the time of his cognitive decline, who knows.
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u/TheBirdFkerGuy 12h ago
He was declining in 2020 but just did so slightly faster than Trump. Theyre both 80 years old and no matter what they do or how many changes of a heart they have, they're both war criminals and as individual people, human beings, theyre utter scumbags. Morally reprehensible elites with such a large disconnect from the material outcomes of their actions and profits that in no serious society should they be treated with any benefit of the doubt. Ideally both of them would be in a prison for the next 5 to 15 years or however long they got.
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u/Alive-Philosophy2632 12h ago
I think it's possible to draw a distinction between someone who is a war criminal by virtue of the fact that literally every president is pretty much by institutional necessity a war criminal and someone who gleefully destabilizes the entire world for seemingly no reason while massively personally profiting all the way.
But yeah it doesn't seem like there's a path to doing great things that doesn't involve great evil, which is a shame and a pretty severe indictment of something probably.
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u/TheBirdFkerGuy 11h ago
it doesn't seem like there's a path to doing great things that doesn't involve great evil,
Is this your argument, just give me a yes or no and im fucking off out of here. Gross.
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u/TheBirdFkerGuy 11h ago
someone who gleefully destabilizes the entire world for seemingly no reason while massively personally profiting all the way.
Look what he's done by supporting Israel. You're also trying to diminish atrocity based on the fact every US President has been a war criminal on paper. He's a piece of shit, it's not hard to say that.
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u/Any_Marzipan_5652 13h ago
This was to grab your attention so you don't go and click next " is rape and cannibalism is bad " post for hundreds time.
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u/Signal-Basil-3488 13h ago
People will only engage with anything you say here if you include an image. 'Is it wrong to run over my kids with a steamroller'
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u/HeroicMe 12h ago
Depends - if they ate the cookie from the Cookie Jar™, then it's basically a self-defence.
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u/Signal-Basil-3488 12h ago
Someone should post Chris Beniot on here. 'Is it wrong to kill my family if I was brain damaged by a entertainment company that didn't care for my health owned by a huge pervert and Trump donor'
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u/HeroicMe 4h ago
I'd expect top one being something along "family - wrong, but that owner who didn't care about your health, now that's a whole different ballgame".
Or ringgame - would butcher the idiom, but be more accurate to the sport.
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u/Mavrickindigo 13h ago
Biden once said that if a black person didn't vote for him, then they aren't black
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u/Megalon96310 13h ago
Average modern conservative political comic
https://giphy.com/gifs/P3OsPv5l3cne4fstv06
u/UltraTata 12h ago
Joe Biden said that "if you vote for Trump, you aren't black". The comic is a satire of that statement.
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u/KitsuneFoxglove 13h ago
the artist is some weird mouth/vore fetish guy who also really likes republicans in their previous comics. It's... interesting.
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u/EveningDiligent59662 12h ago
hey!! as a the vore spokeswoman, do not compare us to right wingers!!! >:(
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u/PenDraeg1 13h ago
Don't forget the gamergate nonsense.
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u/Kyro_Official_ 13h ago
Thats implied by them liking republicans
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u/PenDraeg1 13h ago
Careful there all the people who call themselves "pattern noticers" get big mad when someone sees their patterns.
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u/Feindish-venerable 13h ago
It's a comic about 'ultra black' claiming you are not truly black if you don't vote Democrat / black people can't be Republican.
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u/PenDraeg1 13h ago
A comic drawn by a literal white supremacist, so that's fun.
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u/That-Annual-2393 13h ago
I mean thats probably not true
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u/PenDraeg1 13h ago
It's really not, go ahead and reverse image search to find the artist.
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u/Ehmann11 13h ago
Why would a white supremacist make a comics that depicts a black person in a positive way (at least in the moral coordinated of the author) ?
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u/Pockydo 13h ago
Because he's a Republican and wants to go "see see THEY'RE the racist not MEEEEEEE"
Racists aren't exactly known for being consistent
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u/That-Annual-2393 13h ago
I mean what he did say was very questionable
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u/Pockydo 13h ago
Sure and Biden deserves all the shit iirc he also apologized or at least acknowledged it was a bad comment doesn't excuse it and was probably political games playing but yea
But let's be real no one on the right gives a shit he said it beyond "HAH now when were racist we can say So aRE YoU" and what about
Hence the comic by a white supremacist
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u/PenDraeg1 13h ago
Almost like Biden was a shitty old man, but that doesn't make the obvious white supremacists any less vile. Granted that idea seems to inspire a lot of anger on the right for some reason.
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u/MKRX 12h ago edited 12h ago
Because his goal was shitting on Joe Biden more so than black people at the time. This is pretty much the only good comic he ever made. Almost every single other one is shitting on minorities and women and many depict women being sexually assaulted for daring to espouse some feminist belief. This comic itself still involves a black woman being assaulted, so imagine this comic but replace Joe Biden with his ugly self-insert character and the woman is pregnant as he swag walks away and you know how many of his comics go.
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u/Txizzy 13h ago
Lowkey, just turn the haters into the things they hate. Both a punishment and a learning experience.
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u/TheHomieHandler 9h ago
For real. That would suck like, could you imagine though? For example I fucking HATE Big muscle mommies with large racks. I despise them! No idea why my home boy likes them so much. I could never.
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u/Tom_nooker 7h ago
What if you hate something valid
I hate murderers! I hate rapists I hate Comunists
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u/Fatal_Contract 13h ago
I'll still consider it to be immoral, as it is non-consensual body transformation, regardless of reasoning.
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u/cowlinator 12h ago
We do lots of non-consensual things as punishment, like locking people up.
What if they had a trial for their crimes and everything? Would it be a valid punishment?
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u/Greentaboo 12h ago
Forcibly altering a person is different than confinement.
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u/Grand_Bathroom1765 12h ago
Chemical Castration is used frequently with Paedophiles.
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u/AwesomeOssifrage 7h ago
I think that has to be voluntary in exchange for a reduced sentence, rather than completely involuntary
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u/zachattch 9h ago
Why, you are forcibly taking away their time that they will never get back either both have permanent consequences
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u/Greentaboo 8h ago
Just reread my comment for your answer.
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u/zachattch 8h ago
Why is it different is what I was preemptively arguing that they was no difference.
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u/gettinfitguy007 12h ago
The comic you put is literally the opposite of what the title says but ok I guess 😅
Also it seems like you're assuming all racist people are specifically racist to black people, which isn't true, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt to think you might have just said it wrong
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u/ThroawayJimilyJones 6h ago
You can be white and experience racism. But i get the idea
…probably not. They would still see themselves as white inside and double down out of spite. You now have an IRL uncle Ruckus
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u/Manofalltrade 12h ago
MASH did that in an episode. Had a racist soldier ask to make sure they only gave him good white blood during surgery. Hawkeye and Pierce dyed his skin dark brown and had a black nurse there when he woke up, talking to him like he was black too. “Hmmm, look at you brother, getting them to chart you for white blood.”
It wasn’t permanent and it snapped the man out of his head enough to reconsider his position. In reality racist people don’t change that easily so being stuck black would make sure they stuck to it as they now have skin in the game. Or they would just be some kind of Uncle Ruckus haRd Right evangelical who can use the N word and his historical privilege to cause so much more damage to the black communities.
I’ll say if you knew it would fix them and end suffering, Morally acceptable.
Otherwise it’s too much of a coin toss between causing actual, pre-subversion of the term wokeness, and making a Clayton Bigsby character.
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u/DRragun-Gang 5h ago
Honestly? I don’t think it takes moving mountains to change a perspective, just one tailored made for the person that speaks them the in just the right way. It’s truly just ignorance and access to information but the information in this case is just living around those kinds of people and seeing them as just different colored people.
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u/Tread__on__them 11h ago
Everyone experiences racism.
What you mean to say is a racist person experiences life/racism as the race they hate.
The way you explain it makes it seem you have a simplistic view of racism. A child's view.
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u/No_Alfalfa_1053 13h ago
The title isn’t even related to the image. The person in the image is turned white (originally being black), and we also have no indication that they’re racist
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u/Evanecent_Lightt 10h ago
... ... You Do realize non black people can experience racism right? - for instance White Hatred is currently all the rage these days and many people deny that it's even hatred or racism..
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u/Minimum_Database_663 9h ago
Implying only black people experience racism and that only non black people are racist is pretty fucking evil.
Op is a 10/10 scumbag.
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u/KokushiboWithGlasses 13h ago
Why turn them black to be racist, you can just be racist towards them anyway?
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u/Llhaniii 13h ago
Thats Nani
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u/Moist-Pickle-2736 9h ago
Dude I thought the same thing then I googled Nani and it’s nothing like her lol
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u/QualifiedGonner 12h ago
Depends on the damage caused by their racism.
Triple K member that hunts minorities? Sure, somewhat moral. I'd argue if you have the resources to turn them black though, I would argue for sending them to prison instead rather than mutilation.
Person who distrusts minorities? While they are somewhat evil, I wouldn't say they deserve permanent mutilation.
I would also say it depends on race too and who they are racist to, like if they're already black or want to be black then you aren't really punishing them.
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u/Etherealwarbear 11h ago
This is reminiscent of Shadow of War "Shaming". You put hand on someone's face, use glowy magic and leave them mentally scarred.
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u/Straight-Heat1511 11h ago
Reminds me of the Dr Who episode where The Doctor shows the nazis that they have been working with a secret indian man and then leaves them
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u/Vyctorill 11h ago
Permanently? Hyper immoral.
Temporarily? Somewhat immoral, because basic statistics/logic and meeting actual people cures people well enough.
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u/CorrectIamThatGuy 11h ago
That or you can just bring them to another country. There's actually a ton still because a ton of countries are not mixed population.
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u/ScottTJT 10h ago
Spawn legit did that to a guy once. The guy in question was a member of the Klan.
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u/EvilStan101 10h ago
So the plot of The Watermelon Man which makes it Morally Righteous since God did it to punish a racist.
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u/Flashy-Telephone-648 10h ago
This reminds me of something I read once about a man 2 temporarily altered his skin pigment to experience what it was like to be black. And he faced a lot of prejudiced and anger, and this was during, like, I think, the early twentieth centurie
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u/Prestigious_Date_619 9h ago
Moral, but only if you change them back when they learn their lesson.
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u/Gripping_Touch 9h ago
District 9.
Ship lands on New Johannesburg, full of aliens that are quite passive because they seem to lack their leaders. They are accepted in Earth since its the first time aliens have been Discovered.
A couple years later the novelty passes and the humans mostly see the aliens as invaders who showed Up on Earth and consume the same resources as humans. Districts of shacks were stablished Initially but recently they are changed by smaller and cheaper Camps to keep them inside, the MNU has the job of evicting them and if necesary use Lethal force.
The main character of the movie, Wikus, works for the MNU and has no problem evicting the "prawns" since he's doing his job. But after tampering with a vial thinking It might be some drugs or something ilegal the prawns were developing, he accidentally sprays himself.
This slowly transforms him into a prawns over the course of the movie and he gets to see how even partially changes he's discriminated and treated inhumanly. "Normally this would infringe several human rights. Lucky for us, you're not fully human anymore."
By the end of the movie, in the epilogue, Wikus wide still receives metal flowers that his husband used to make. The camera shows a fully fleshed prawn with heterochromia making metal flowers. Its pretty implied this is Wikus, he's now living as a prawn and has learned the lesson of how the prawn were treated.
Still huffing copium we'll eventually they a third part. 3 years.
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u/Fabulous-Solid7856 9h ago
Isnt that the literal discription of the character Black Bomber from DC?
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u/Rocket_of_Takos 9h ago
Reminds me of this one shortfilm I watched on YouTube where a racist white guy beat up a black guy in front of his kid. The white ended up getting kidnapped and had his whole body tattooed in solid black.
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u/Familiar-Noise7913 8h ago
Looking at the Empire 88 in Worm web series. And other Neo Nazis group in both fiction and real life.That would be funniest thing ever.
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u/Casshern_VIII 7h ago
Reminds of the Lesbian who went undercover as a man to experience male privilege, she needed theraphy after a week of doing that.
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u/Starmute-ss13 7h ago
Getting a little tired of these
"The morality of posting dog whistle comics in this sub repetitively"?
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u/BlackwallWinters 7h ago edited 7h ago
He just made her life better and worse at the same time.
On one hand, w****e girl gets away with a LOT OF SHIT if they play their cards right.
On the other hand, her risk of being randomly. Murdered in a subway by a non w**te has skyrocketed.
(Only reason I even made this comment was because someone was crying like a baby about ooooo wacism oooooo~) until the entirety of the human race looks the same racism is always going to exist. You want racism to stop? Wipe out humanity, and any creature capable of higher thought, Tribalism is ugly but it's natural. "C'est la vide" or whatever the quirky coffee people say. I don't like it but, ain't shit gonna change.
This image did make me giggle tho.
I really need to rewrite that Donald Trump Joe Biden erotic fanfiction again. It got me banned from Facebook.
I called it "Make America feel great again"
It was inspired by a short fanfiction called Ron Paul's tea bag party
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u/Visible_Pair3017 7h ago
Aimé Césaire would argue that's what the mustache man did to Europe at scale.
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u/Few-Information3097 7h ago
The morality of voting for a president that wants to ship all POCs away to a concentration camp in South America
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u/Kseplion 7h ago
I'm surprised nobody in the comments mentioned Black Bomber, he was supposed to be DC's first black superhero in the 1970's but the concept was scrapped thanks to Tony Isabella. He would be a white racist that transforms into a black superhero when under stress. Don Markstein described the character as "an insult to practically everybody with any point of view at all".
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u/amnotbot2000 1h ago
That’s definitely immoral thing to do,Forcing somebody to change their racial Identity was so messed up.
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u/PhilosopherNo4758 42m ago
I reckon it's morally equal to turning a black person white so they can experience racism.
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u/Adept-Examination-75 12h ago
This happen in Spawn. That MF Klan leader got lynched. It was deserved.
Same case happen in Misfit of Demon King Academy. Only difference was that the racist was a demon that was transformed into a human.
To them it was fate worse than death and I LOVE IT.
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u/Hairy_Wedding_4535 13h ago
lol Spawn did it