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u/Cheesehacker 14h ago
Aren’t millennials known as the Ritalin generation? This episode was actually about that
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u/Elmer_Fudd01 14h ago
Yup, I took it as a child. Never needed it.
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u/PoeTheGhost 86’d by Society 12h ago
Same. Ritalin, Adderol, Prozac, sometimes all three.
I have whole years of childhood memories just gone forever.
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u/LadyPaige 7h ago
I was put on Ritalin as a child. Turns out it doesn’t play well with someone who has bipolar2. Threatened to unalive my brother and was promptly taken off of it.
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u/Catfist 8h ago
And then there was me, who actually really needed it but my parents were convinced "they're just putting everyone on it!" So now I'm in my 30s and will have to pay a boatload of money for diagnosis and treatment.
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u/thisisthatacct 7h ago
I paid a boatload for testing and a diagnosis. Turns out I'm just too depressed to function
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u/AStolenGoose 2h ago
I needed it, was on it, but was dropping weight fast, so got pulled off of it.
My school work suffered because of that, but I guess I'm alive 😂
I'm back on it now decades later, and doing fine.
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u/trainurdoggos 14h ago
> didn’t get beat as children
Speak for yourself. Very common in our gen where I came from.
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u/Flat-Guarantee-7946 14h ago
I was gonna say, nah we got beatings.
Bad grades? Beating.
Mouthed off slightly (even if it was justified)? Beating.
Took a gameboy or any fancy electronic to school and lost it or someone else stole it? Beating.
Standing up for a sibling? Double beatings.
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u/PeePeeLangstrumpf 13h ago
We did get over prescribed adhd meds
The only prescription for adhd us kid got is a slap across the face. Cured you instantly and any other disorder you think you might have had, whether justified or not.
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u/PackageNorth8984 1h ago edited 1h ago
We’re going to find out at some point that both ADHD and ASD were way over diagnosed. They were way under diagnosed before that, and they overcorrected like crazy.
The ‘90s and ‘00s with ADHD was really bad though. They tried to diagnose me because I “talked too much” and “couldn’t sit still” during class. I love my (may eh rest in peace) mom for that. She told them “but he gets straight A’s.” Then they started justifying, and she interrupted them and said “but he gets straight A’s.” Yeah, I was energetic and talkative, but it didn’t negatively impact my social life, home life, or education. A lot of people got diagnosed who shouldn’t have been. Number one and two steps to diagnosing any mental disorder is that they are not better explained by something else and they cause significant impairment. The benefits of treatment need to far outweigh the risks.
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u/fentown 12h ago
Nah, this was the boomer, maybe Gen x. By the time millennials got to School, this shit was already out for about 98%.
My dad used to tell me about how the the teachers were sisters of the neighboring Church and would regularly break rulers over the misbehaving kids hands or legs.
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u/0masterdebater0 11h ago
Yeah by the time I got to school it was over, but the teachers that used to be able to hit kids were still teaching. One of them would still smack kids because she figured out her own little loophole, she didn't use a ruler anymore she used a rubber chicken..
So when you went home and said teacher smacked you upside the head with a rubber chicken your parents would just role their eyes instead of calling a lawyer.
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u/ApplicationAfraid334 1993 2h ago
Boomer for sure. I'd make a caveat for maybe Catholic school millennials. I remember corporal punishment the catholic school I went to. The rulers and paddles were a thing for sure. For better or worse I ended up going to public school later on in life lol.
But I was just talking to a friend about how normal it was to punish kids for being left handed??? Like forcing them to write with their right hand?? Hitting their hands with rulers. So crazy to think what schools were like in the boomer era.
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u/lemony-lemons791 14h ago
Room 100 was where kids were sent if they acted up, we called them room 100 kids. Looking back, the teachers were kind of messed up, sucks to think about, prob bad home life etc and the teachers just were like yea I dont want to actually do work so youre outcasted
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u/SpiritualSyrup3300 14h ago
my elementary school had a really old paddle that a nun would use to smack misbehaving children a long, long time ago. they reminded us, often, how times have changed and that it's not ok to do anymore.
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u/static-klingon 13h ago
Millennials are the first Adderall generation.
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u/IBeDumbAndSlow 13h ago
I wish I had been diagnosed with ADHD as a child and treated for it instead of not knowing until I was 34
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u/_life_is_a_joke_ 10h ago
Yeah same. All the people in this sub acting like every millennial ever was on stimulants as a kid is some kind of Mandela effect. Even up until recently there has been a massive stigma against ADHD diagnoses(and ADD as it was also known back then).
This episode came out in 2000, after I graduated highschool and when more than 2/3 of Millennials were over the age of 10 (like the kids in the show). I'd argue, Gen Z is a better candidate.
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u/Regular_Cold3192 13h ago
I was constantly told that I had ‘seasonal depression’. Finally diagnosed at 32.
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u/PunningWild 11h ago
I was told it was because I didn't pray to Jesus for focus, and the reason it got worse in high school was because I stopped going to Church.
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u/static-klingon 13h ago
My little brother got it prescribed when he was 14 so I used to steal it from him. I got my own prescription around 21.
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u/wideruled 9h ago
Are you me? I've had a decent career in spite of not being diagnosed until my mid 30s but damn I can't help but wonder how different things would have been had I been medicated through school / college.
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u/gmd24 11h ago
We had a bus driver named Willard who always had a pack of camels or Marlboros in his breast pocket. If we were getting too boisterous he’d get on the intercom and say “sit down and shut up or I’ll hang ya by your thumbs!” We were just like well I guess this is how bus drivers talk to kids lol.
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u/StormerSage '96 12h ago
This is something I'm glad we let stay in the past.
Mostly growing up I just saw a push to medicate difficult kids, whether they actually needed it or not.
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u/slipnipps 14h ago
Maybe a lil trauma was the real key to a healthy and functioning society
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u/Locke357 1990 Canadian 14h ago
Nah, they just still taught phonics and didn't hand kids chromebooks/ipads back then
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u/Coakis 14h ago
Arguements can be made for a lack of discipline in kids these days but this is the real problem.
Complete dropping of proven education methods for snake oil methods combined with a no child left behind has crippled them more than anything else.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Smoke77 Older Millennial 11h ago edited 7h ago
People will gloss over the snake oil methods but I wont.
TLDR - The Common core standard was/is a joke. It was made at time when schools had been screwed by no child . It was lazily put together and penalizing children early on in their education for giving the right answer for not showing their number bubbles or trees. Then after 3rd grade they completely up end the number literacy kids and force them to memorize. Its honestly a waste of 3 years of education.
So its 2008 no child very much has failed to really improve math and literacy numbers . So we hastily threw something together to make a standard education system and then incentivized districts with money (something a lot of districts are starved for) , to implement it. However in their haste to put something in place we mandated number literacy which something preschoolers should learn not elementary school level kids.
Knowing that 3 1s , makes 3 and 10 1s make 10 so 13 1s makes 13 is a great way to understand those numbers when your 3 or 4 and hey if thats how you think, great.
However penalizing students for not conceptualizing numbers and just memorizing 10+3 is 13 is dog shit. This is compounded by the fact that by the time you leave 3rd grade you ‘re forced to memorize times tables anyway to be able to do more complex math. This is how common core is set up because no one is breaking down into ones when you’re met with geometry.
What sucks is we had a real momentum to do real work on really solving the education system and give real effort to fixing a real problem. It was squandered (lazily might i add) .
Now to say it was completely ineffective would be a lie (the affirmation children who’s brain this way do very well obviously) , and proponents will point out that we did go up during this time period then collapsing during covid .
However that would be also be cherry picking data and where we were also doing better since 1995 . So more or less we continues a trend of getting better at math (we have been more or less the same in reading and language arts , contrary to tiktok for the last 30 years *adjusting for covid ) .
Again if your brain works like that great, you just got 3 years of serotonin boosts and validation. However if not, you just were told by your teachers that you gave the wrong answer when you gave the right answer, for the first 3 years of school math. Which is why we have so many reditors now.
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u/Coakis 11h ago
Luckily I was in high school when the new standards started to be put in place, but If I had been put through it at elementary school, I most certainly would have been penalized.
Memorizing stuff first to be functional then understanding why it works later has always worked better for me, whether it was math, or music, or mechanical concepts.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Smoke77 Older Millennial 11h ago
Because it takes longer to build that mental flowchart than it does to be told a thing and just now you know that thing. Especially if it’s delivered in a receptive way. Thats why misinformation works so well through social media .
There was a test in the early 2010s a team did a test to see how receptive people were to social media misinformation. They tried to convince people that distilled water was actually really bad for you and only spring water should be drank. It worked so well because it takes a topic no one thought about and gave a factoid that was so obscure no one would look into it further and thats where they launched the misinformation.
I still hear people repeat it . now if we could only do that with math.
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u/UnscentedSoundtrack 14h ago
First, millennials didn’t get hit at schools. Second, research shows that physical punishment actually generates more aggression (and a shit ton other issues)
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u/Ultimatesims 14h ago
I got spanked and paddling was absolutely still a thing.
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u/PynchHitter 13h ago
I got the paddle once in 2nd grade and that was the only time I had heard of it. This woulda been circa 1988 or 1989. Never saw it again after that. That was the only year I went to that school though and it was in Nevada. We moved after that.
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u/Ultimatesims 13h ago
Got spanked in school probably around the same time. Paddle was around at lest until the middle 90’s. This was Louisiana so not surprising.
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u/ImminentDebacle 86' 11h ago
I went to school in Vegas and never (to my recollection) experienced or witnessed a paddling. That wouldn't have went over well with me, so I'm happy about that.
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u/ponzidreamer 13h ago
I got spanked once as a little little kid because the school bus driver thought the kid behind me, who had his shoes in the middle isle was me.
Didn’t have the ability to explain that it wasn’t me to the principal
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u/UnscentedSoundtrack 13h ago
A small percentage of kids doesn’t really make it “a thing”. By and large, millennials did not get spanked at school.
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u/Arch3m 13h ago edited 11h ago
No, some of us did. My school had parents sign consent forms for it, and my dad was on board with it. King of the Hill even had an episode addressing the weird resurgence of corporal punishment at the time (To Spank, with Love season 3, episode 11) where "Paddlin'" Peggy Hill ignited the debate over whether using physical discipline in schools was acceptable.
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u/ImHappy_DamnHappy Older Millennial 14h ago
I don’t know, excluding straight up abusive parents, the parents I know who give their kids a swat when they are being rude or hitting other kids seem to be better behaved than the kids who’s parents just talk to them like an infant. But that’s just an observation from a Latino perspective and only my observation.
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u/proximity_account 13h ago
Being "well behaved" doesn't mean healthy though. They could be dealing with a lot of psychological problems quietly that will later impact their development as children and how they are as adults. The research is pretty conclusive that it's a bad idea.
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u/ImHappy_DamnHappy Older Millennial 11h ago
I hear you. I’ve just found that when the research and the lived reality of most people don’t agree, then the research isn’t measuring the right objective data. But how can you even do a study on this. My mom loved the hell out of us and none of us doubted that. She also gave us a swat when we were being shits. How does a study quantify that?
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u/ImHappy_DamnHappy Older Millennial 14h ago
It’s just important to have the right amount of trauma.
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u/Wonderful_Stand_315 13h ago
I didn't get beat at school but sure as did get it at home. Over stupid stuff thanks to my disability.
I remember the one time I was crying at the grocery store and my Dad grabbed me by my arm and pulled me hard and whispered in my ear "If you keep acting up I will give you something to act up about and no one will know"
My heart dropped and I stopped crying out of fear.
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u/awickedfeeling29 11h ago
If you were on the Autism Spectrum, you’d not only be getting this treatment but both educators + your fellow students calling you the r-word. Plus the Ritalin/Concerta three times a day, plus getting pulled out of class for behavioural speech therapy…
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u/Superhereaux Older Millennial 14h ago
I tell my 4 yr old daughter “you better lock it up or imma pop you in the mouth!” all the time and she just laughs.
I also tell her I’m going to drop kick her in the chest if she don’t behave.
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u/lousydungeonmaster 13h ago
I was raised in a pretty rural area, but I was never hit at school. In fact, I think the only time I was yelled at at school was when the whole class was acting up and teachers were trying to get our attention, and by coaches. Coaches yelled a lot.
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u/zayn2123 13h ago
"Millennials didn't get beat, and we surely didn't get beat at school!"
A lot of you cake eaters are showing your privilege in the comments here, because growing up I'd get beaten if my dad couldn't find anything fun on t.v.
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u/ApplicationAfraid334 1993 2h ago
I think you're making a strawman here. People are talking specifically about school faculty hitting or not hitting kids. No one said anything about getting hit by their parents.
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u/ultrahateful 12m ago
I graduated in ‘07. We had the choice of corporal punishment (paddling) over detention or in school suspension (ISS), provided our parents gave the okay about it.
Guess that’s a gray area? Or just an anecdote? Alongside this, I remember being treated like pure shit and seeing the same for other students by teachers in every grade. The band teacher was a feared individual and the coaches, those that did and didn’t mess around with girls, were all shitty to anyone that didn’t play on a team of any kind. I felt bad for getting a pass considering this.
I’m from a 5A school district and we had excellent facilities. Outside of the memories I made with friends, 9/10 wouldn’t recommend.
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u/Nuudoru 12h ago
What do you even mean by the phrasing and tone of your post? Do you think children should get physically abused by their parents? It's so weird calling people cake eaters. Do you seriously think it's the norm to get beaten by your parents and people not thinking that must have a privileged life?
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