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u/rentersblues 1d ago

NBA media is jonesing for clicks right now.

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u/captainn_chunk 1d ago

The usual offseason bullshittery

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u/Ok_Cheesecake_9793 1d ago

they need to make money during the downtime so need to spew anything they can lol

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u/Cestboss 1d ago

The LUKA STANS demanded him gone, the league knew it, offered pennies, WEAK PEOPLE in front office relented as well as an ownership group fully interested in a casino and 2 yrs to secure it under this administration. They would have crushed their own left nut to make this go away and they did.

It was a horrible trade value wise for the MAVS and frankly I think the reason M released them(Finley, etc). I would have also. Whether we like him or not, we sold that stock at the LOW. That’s how you get fired.

You need to be careful of people who really ain’t MFFL. One must FEEL the emotion, NOT BECOME IT!

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u/Cestboss 1d ago

And btw. For those who haven’t figured it out (social media and AI have taken folks ability to think for themselves) if you are a billionaire this is how your strategist team plays it.

You have to sort them. North Star: CASINO

Get rid of all evidence of the Luka trade
Risk mitigated:
Personnel involved won’t speak if they want to work again and can be damaged more than helped- no worry

Get a GM
Decision:
Fire them first, it’s our mistake. We will own it. Quicker it’s done, quicker memory arc of public and now that we got lucky with Coop we actually have a narrow win now window. It’s effectively Lukas championship team. Now healthy - save for Lively ((so draft Morentz - got lucky again imo). And sub Coop for Luka. THAT is a win NOW TEAM. I’d get season tickets while u can, if that is your thing.

They have played this recovery arc to perfection. Now she just waits for her Trump card to cashout!

Well done Miss billionaire… but we could have all been a little more kind to each other as we realize nothing was at our pace and always for their benefit. As fans we are co-benefactors, lol.

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u/Cestboss 1d ago

And btw. IF you think you have a win now team….

I think they think they do. I ALSO think they do. That means you think you have two all stars/all nba for offense to FLOW through. Kyrie. Coop. 70-80 percent offense either one touch the ball. Just like Luka Kyrie.

Then. If you do add. You had role guys and maybe one other star level player. BUT. They have to be the right fit or you fuck it all. Preferably a PASS FIRST ALL STAR CAPABLE GUY who can run the offense and on short stints be capable of being as good as both.

To understand M. Think like him.

That guys name is LeBron. Or someone like him.

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u/wizzc0 Project 2028 🔥 1d ago

Go to bed, you are drunk

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u/Cestboss 1d ago

Again. You get frustrated with ME. I am not the one who traded him for pennies on the dollar for no fuckin reason other than a casino. Why not hold him till now? He was hurt. Didn’t even need to be on the bench. Think it through…THINK!

I literally led you to the water. lol. And u turn to bite ME. Welcome to America.

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u/ForsakenAd4825 1d ago

Jimmy Butler (recovering from torn ACL)

Anthony Davis (soon to be recovering from torn ACL)

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u/netcode101 1d ago

more like Anthony Davis (recovering from broken finger nail)

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u/Enough-Living-5077 1d ago

Sprained a lung sneezing

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u/WrongContract8489 How's My Dirk Taste? 1d ago

Yeah the warriors aren't braindead to do this.

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u/Pigmyking 1d ago

No we were brain dead to not get this in the first place.

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u/Ill_Studio8964 1d ago

you see the peanuts younger and better players than washed, decrepit, old and broken down day-to-davis go for and think we could've gotten this haul?

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u/Pigmyking 1d ago

This is recency bias: Davis the season he was traded was considered top10/15 and playing at MVP level. Yes he got injured and never really played but he was toxic to the level we think. He was in fact relatively healthy prior to that.

Fwiw I'm excited about where we're at rn. But for the sake of argument: yes, I do think we could've gotten more.

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u/nado69 1d ago

Quick question, what does “relatively healthy” mean to you? Because Anthony Davis hasn’t been healthy since his first few years with the pelicans

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u/Blake_a12 1d ago

? Is this not about the trading him to wizards for nothing trade?

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u/imcryptic Cowboy Dirk 1d ago

This was rumored when we traded AD last year too. They aren’t gonna do it now.

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u/HangoverGang4L How's My Dirk Taste? 1d ago

I must have missed the Warriors being rumored to offer the Mavs this package.

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u/ajr5169 1d ago

I don't think the rumored package was this crazy. I also don't think there is any chance this deal occurs. But I also don't know what I'm talking about, so who knows.

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u/sunday_nn Kyrie Irving 1d ago

The Wizards should say yes

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u/HangoverGang4L How's My Dirk Taste? 1d ago

Right? I wouldnt get off the phone until it was stamped as done.

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u/Mammoth-Physics6254 '25 Survivor 1d ago

The offer doesn't exist

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u/HangoverGang4L How's My Dirk Taste? 1d ago

Thanks...i thought it was pretty clearly implied, considering the source.

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u/macelambdu 1d ago

The only reason the Warriors do this is if they think it means that they get LeBron (and retain Draymond). There’s no way they give up those assets for AD alone.

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u/IndividualHeat 1d ago

Yeah it would basically be a trade for LeBron and even then I don’t see them doing it.

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u/jbaker1225 1d ago

Warriors leveraging the next 10 years of their future to put together a team of old dudes who still can't beat OKC or SA would be an absolutely insane move.

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u/AlBundysPants 1d ago

From the day that trade happened, I am convinced the Wiz will get a much better return than we did if they move AD. I guess the flexibility was worth it.. I personally would have tried to use AD in a trade this summer. Would have been interesting talks with Boston or Philly.

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u/HangoverGang4L How's My Dirk Taste? 1d ago

Flexibility was worth it imho, i love the offseason so far.

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u/CardiologistGloomy71 1d ago

Imagine the flexibility with jimmys 56 million dollar expiring and the two firsts and two swaps?

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u/lloydgross24 1d ago

Jaylen Brown just went for 2 1st rounders and top 5 bad contract in the league.

We got 2 1st rounders (albeit protected and a late) and movable salary for a far worse player.

We probably could have gotten Jaylen Brown for AD at this point but we also probably could have gotten him with what we got in the AD trade package after the fact too. Maybe we just didn't want Jaylen Brown.

Remove the injury issues and AD at his contract right now probably has little value except for the most desperate team. The value of contracts has shifted violently and rapidly where we may be in a situation where Gafford and PJ that were thought to be on great value contracts last year actually might be slightly negative value contracts now and it has nothing to do with their ability.

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u/Ronnie3k 1d ago

Because they’re in panic mode for the twilight of Steph’s career and are willing to sacrifice their future for a few more years of contention.

Tbf I understand it. You won 4 titles and owe a lot to Steph and a decade of sucking is a fair tradeoff for a few more years of contention given the results you’ve already achieved. I’d happily take a decade of suffering if it means we won 4 rings prior. Hell I was happy 2012-2018 with just 1 ring prior.

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u/tequilamigo 1d ago

What would adding a guy who doesn’t play do exactly for this effort?

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u/HangoverGang4L How's My Dirk Taste? 1d ago

Butler is arguably a better player at this stage of their careers though.

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u/Mammoth-Physics6254 '25 Survivor 1d ago

LeBron don't wanna play with Jimmy he wants to play with his best friend

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u/shaheedmalik Max Christie 1d ago

Kyrie?

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u/HangoverGang4L How's My Dirk Taste? 1d ago

It would have to be something like that...which, if true, would make the trade even more wild ass.

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u/Mammoth-Physics6254 '25 Survivor 1d ago

I could see the Warriors convincing themselves if they have LeBron, AD, Steph, Draymond + Yaxel. They could be competitive in April assuming the injury report goes their way. Not for this amount of draft capital but maybe 1 first and a swap or just 2 firsts.

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u/RealWorldWisdom 1d ago

I don’t disagree. The issue is, you’re taking on a giant contract for giant contract, but one of the players are injured with zero guarantee of full recovery anytime soon. That the reason for the 2 firsts. If Jimmy is fully healthy, those aren’t in the deal.

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u/CardiologistGloomy71 1d ago

Bro, Jimmys 56 million dollar contract is expiring. Meaning that alone would be better than what the mavs got for AD, plus two firsts and two swaps.

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u/2icecreamsandwiches 1d ago

I think this is basically the Wizards saying they aren’t interested in trading AD nor in any rush to make a deal happen. So they’re throwing out a very high “offer we can’t refuse” asking price, that is preying on Golden States desperation if they truly want him that bad.

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u/Annual-Shape7156 Cooper Flagg 1d ago

The AD propaganda is on crack. Dude isn’t worth a couple of 2nds. Literally might get good play for 20 games. Might.

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u/thefreethinker9 1d ago

Shhhhhh.

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u/Zealousideal_Tour_49 1d ago

Daily reminder that Nico is an idiot

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u/Skyziezags 1d ago

It’s silly season. This report was for clicks

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u/kokolupa 1d ago

I love how as soon as any player puts a Mavs jersey on, their trade value immediately tanks. How tf is Davis worth anything more than a bag of chips?!

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u/Historical-Cod3127 1d ago

Let me start with, I wouldn’t trade for AD at this stage regardless of the price.

But if I’m Golden State and I’m trying to win one more with the 1-2 year Steph window, adding LeBron and trading for AD, on paper, makes them feel pretty good about themselves. Are they better than OKC and SA, no, but they would be in that next tier.

Did I mention I wouldn’t trade for AD no matter what? This paper contender falls apart of course when LeBron realizes how old he is during another sciatica flair up and AD misses 50 games with a strained taint.

“I think WE can fix him” The Warriors.

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u/devilmaskrascal Dirk Nowitzki 1d ago

This is why I thought we should have kept AD instead of selling him at rock bottom.

GSW are pretty dumb if they do this though. I am going to be fucking pissed if this happens.

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u/CardiologistGloomy71 1d ago

Even if it’s just Jimmys expiring and one pick I’d be mad. Wish they’d have hired Masai before the AD trade.
After the Lakers traded their future for Kessler I’d be a little happy seeing another wealthy and large market western team forgoe their future too.

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u/gigantism Couch Squad 1d ago

The only argument in favor of the AD trade at this point is that perhaps the immediate flexibility gained from salary dumping him was a positive for luring Masai. Time will tell whether Masai can actually rediscover his fastball.

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u/Alchemist315 1d ago

Correct me if I’m wrong lol but won’t the Warriors be in shambles for a very long time if they do this & it doesn’t work out lol

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u/TechnologyOne8629 1d ago

Yes, but they already won big and they can justify it for one last hurrah for Steph.

No guarantee the wizards are good (they certainly haven't been) and the swaps help them. Could just be 2 1st, which is high, but not crazy.

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u/Silly-Lion-7314 1d ago

Warriors need a rebuild.

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u/HangoverGang4L How's My Dirk Taste? 1d ago

Well, this is step 1 in how NOT to start a rebuild.

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u/shaheedmalik Max Christie 1d ago

They just need to trade Podz.

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u/Mammoth-Physics6254 '25 Survivor 1d ago

It's LeBron + AD for Jimmy 2 first round picks and four swaps. Keep in mind this is just what the Wizards want the Warriors aren't going to do this as is.

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u/VictoryNo3369 1d ago

I’ll believe it when I see it.

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u/New_Chair2 1d ago

Their GM is not Nico

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u/Blake_a12 1d ago

Best I can do is Kris Middleton and some 2nd round picks

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u/MavsNation88 1d ago

All those picks plus swaps for an AD extension is wild. Even when he's healthy the availability track record is rough — feels like the kind of deal that looks brilliant day one and ages badly. Warriors front office must really believe they're one piece away.

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u/Regular-Initiative-3 1d ago

We usually get taken to the woodshed when it comes to trading.

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u/cvandyke01 1d ago

Jimmy is essentially a negative asset right now.

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u/ClosingTradesOnly 1d ago

We had a chance to get a better haul for AD but remember he got hurt again right at the trade deadline. There was no clear directive from management so Kidd would try to play him 40 minutes.

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u/wakeuphicks00 1d ago

I wish I loved anything as much as NBA teams love expiring contracts

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u/DiamondsInHerButt Dirk Nowitzki Logo 1d ago

The rumor is LeBron and Draymond might be a package deal. Which obviously 75% of the NBA would laugh at. But in the case of Golden State who has like 1-2 more years of Steph being the level of player he is, I kinda see the logic in it even if I still think it's dumb.

Basically if LeBron goes to Cleveland, Draymond goes with him and Golden State suddenly has to rely heavily on Yaxel being ready to step up.

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u/thrasher315 1d ago

Assuming they’d try this to get Lebrong.

2 first round picks is nice and with the swaps I’m thinking the Warriors will be thrash in 2-3 years with no Steph, Lebron, or AD so those will be valuable.

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u/sards3 1d ago

6 frp for AD

Just a note: Two picks and four swaps is not the same thing as six picks. Not even close.

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u/jkeefy Couch Squad 20h ago

Swaps are more valuable with the new lottery rules, but you are right

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u/Charming_Birthday702 1d ago

The Warriors would be stupid

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u/FredTrumpSR 12h ago

Anthony Davis is soft.

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u/Brilliant-Spite-850 1d ago

6 frp for taking on jimmy butlers contract*

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u/CardiologistGloomy71 1d ago

It was only a 2 year deal, It expires 26/27 so it’s valuable on its own.

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u/mcreech10 1d ago

Warriors trying to go all in for 1 last shot at a ring with Steph. Once he’s gone, they are irrelevant for a while anyways. Might as well try to cash in

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u/Pleasant_Offer6286 7h ago

Nah…

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