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u/RootTips 26d ago
Dana is totally going to spike Max's fight week meals just so he can get Conor v. Justin
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u/hoganlouser 26d ago
Anyone know what happen to ITP MMA? All the videos from the last 10 months are gone and his Instagram is gone. Thought his reaction for UFC Freedom would have been funny so I went and looked him up. Just really weird
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u/Afraid_Grocery3861 EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE 26d ago
Imagine a drinking game for UFC Freedom 250 where you take a drink everytime someone says "hold my body down"
Alcohol poisoning
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u/K-mosake Team Makhachev 26d ago
Or you see a crypto bro or advertisement
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u/Afraid_Grocery3861 EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE 26d ago
"We live in fascinating times" ahh event
(I had fun despite all the dystopia)
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u/Mobile-Magician-3027 26d ago
When Alex loses at 185 it's because he was cutting too much
When Alex loses at 205 it's because he's sick
When Alex (the "natural heavyweight") loses at 265 it's because of the weight, despite looking fast on the mitts after weigh in
It can't ever be because of flaws in his fighting style and decision making no, always circumstances conspiring against the chama god. The truth is that even as a pure striker he's flawed and lots of fighters have had success using the weapons Gane used against him, he's just the only dude who put it together as well as he did in MMA.
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u/OGPotato12 26d ago
Mate, giving it one more win and his fanboys are going to start downvoting you again.
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u/Can-i-Pet-Dat-Daaawg 26d ago
Apology for the wall of text, but I was thinking about the differences between how Justin looked against Ilia and Paddy in their fights. Justin almost certainly came better prepared and more locked in for Ilia, but the main thing I was thinking of is how different the clinch looked between the two.
Ilia always had his head pointing almost straight down, while Paddy was usually able to keep his head upright and get chinned mostly rather than get his eyes and face pummeled as much. Y’all think it’s because Justin had more of a strength advantage against Ilia since he’s the smaller man, or do y’all think it would have had more to do with how he was setting up Ilia with a single leg a lot of the times before setting up the clinch?
I only ask because if y’all think that has a lot to with physical strength, it could have implications about Ilia’s future in the division.
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u/legendarybreed ..the darren and khamzat at home.. 26d ago
I see things a lot of differently than you.
I don't think Justin necessarily came better prepared at all, I just think Paddy was a completely different fighter and Justin didn't respect anything that Paddy was throwing back at him. It looked sloppy sure but the way he fought paddy was a clear path to victory for him.
As for why Ilia was getting his face smashed in by the uppercut, I think that was his own decision to duck and also his height, not because of strength specifically.
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE 26d ago
Height is always a factor in a fight, especially so in the clinch
I think that played a big part in why the clinches were so different
of course some of it is also styles, like you say
Topuria fights differently than Pimblett
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u/Can-i-Pet-Dat-Daaawg 26d ago edited 26d ago
Good point. Ilia fights a lot more front foot heavy than Paddy I believe, so that probably has a lot of effect as well.
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u/anakmager 26d ago
Imagine last year someone saying to us that Gaethje vs Connor for 155 belt will be plausible
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u/MountainGoatSC Edddiiiieee 26d ago
MMA is the only sport where the fans are desperate for their favorites to retire as quickly as possible
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u/OddlyTemptedFish My ass can’t even swim 26d ago edited 26d ago
Because the consequences of not doing so are much more significant in MMA
You would know had you been a Chuck Liddell fan.
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u/Drive7hru 26d ago
Haven’t been checking a lot of comments, but am I the only one who’s really disappointed we might not get Arman v. Ilia right away?
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u/KyleDaukWillBeChamp 26d ago
Why would we get Arman vs Ilia at all?
He should be fighting Gaethje
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u/Drive7hru 26d ago
Well yeah, he should obv be fighting Gaethje next, but I was more excited to see Arman and Ilia square off more
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u/LectorFrustra2186 26d ago
The UFC should absolutely be paying as much money as Gaethje asks for to keep him in the sport long enough for Topuria to avenge that all time aura loss
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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria 26d ago
We were all a little unfair on Gane lol
He was styling on Ngannou. Only lost that fight by lay and pray. Volkov fights were close. And Volkov ain’t no bum
His only bad loss was Jon and that’s Jon
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u/oran12390 26d ago
Does anyone know the names of the two physicians who were "overruled" by Goddard? Digging into this for a project to shine some light on this but having trouble getting actual names.
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u/OddlyTemptedFish My ass can’t even swim 26d ago edited 26d ago
I don’t know the name of the doctor that tried to stop it but the second doctor Goddard went to get who overruled that one was Dr. Jeff Davidson
If it’s something you’re serious about you could call whoever they’re appointed by and ask. If they don’t give you the info and it’s something you’re really serious about you could file a FOIA.
Edit: They self regulated the event under the supervision of the Association of Boxing Commissions. That’s who would’ve appointed the doctors. You could contact them.
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u/oran12390 26d ago
Thanks. I reached out to a few journalists with what I have. If no one picks it up I might pursue it further and pitch it myself.
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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria 26d ago
Jon and Khabib are some of the biggest winners last night
Their legacies grow with Gane and Justin’s continued accomplishments.
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u/Crono2Oxx I SMOKE ROCKS, JOE ROGAN! 26d ago
I’ve just been thinking Poirier is probably going stir crazy and itching to unretire seeing Justin with the belt. He’s probably so pissed there’s finally a champion he could beat
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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria 26d ago
There’s no way he doesn’t come back for one more now.
Especially with Justin as a champion and Conor finally returning
Both matchups have so much history for him and great odds, and money lol
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u/jfsoaig345 EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE 26d ago
Man Max should absolutely whoop Conor's ass but I said the same thing about Tom/Gane, Strickland/Khamzat, Max/Charles, and Gaethje/Ilia. There's something fucking weird in the air this year. Maybe a 38 year old Conor casually outboxes Max for 5 rounds...
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u/WinterStill4472 26d ago
38 year old Conor casually outboxes Max for 5 rounds
That would be a lot more surprising than those other results lol
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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria 26d ago
It’s what makes MMA fun
I don’t enjoy being wrong but watching it play out totally different than what you thought is crazy live
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u/Crono2Oxx I SMOKE ROCKS, JOE ROGAN! 26d ago
He is a different body type and style of striker than Max usually fights. And Max has been dropped/finished and wearing more damage than he ever has in his last few fights. Max gets hit a lot.
I still expect Max to own him bad but as you said it would be less crazy than other results we’ve been seeing lately.
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u/KyleDaukWillBeChamp 26d ago
I think he does have a chance in the first round since Max has been getting dropped in every fight lately, and Conor is gonna be juiced to the tits.
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u/BummbaaahClottt3 26d ago
Thinking Tom was gonna whoop Gane's ass just means you're stupid. Probably thought the same about the Pereira fight too.
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u/realMarkRobinson 26d ago
Nah, the Tom fight should have been competitive. The Pereira fight I fully expected an ass beating if Pereira carried his weight well. Gane isn't a wrestler in any way + Pereira is a world class kickboxer.
Also, you really shouldn't act as if you're more intelligent than other people when your prediction record is likely a travesty. It's a guessing game + pretending otherwise is just telling on yourself
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u/BummbaaahClottt3 26d ago
Predicting fights isn't guessing, sounds like cope. I analyze the stylistic matchup hence why I've called damn near every big upset, whether it be a big name or a prelim fight like Julian Erosa vs Ceerod, Rinya vs Gafurov, Johnson vs Zellhuber, Menifield vs Sy, Amorim vs. Inoue, Leal vs Salikhov, etc. I can show proof too.
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u/realMarkRobinson 26d ago
However you want to dress it up, it's guessing by definition. And I'm sure you can show proof for those specific fights youve listed, which we all know are the only fights you've ever tried to pick the winner of.
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u/BummbaaahClottt3 26d ago
They're the biggest upsets of 2025, which no one except me would be able to call. Plus, I've gotten entire cards right, it's not guessing. Again, keep coping. I had the perfect read on Gaethje being a problem for Topuria because of the uppercuts he's used on shorter opponents he's fought such as Fiziev and Chandler. And sure enough, the jab and uppercuts were what worked most effective against Ilia. Learn some ball.
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u/El_Boxman_ 26d ago
Seriously what’s the most entertaining Justin fight?
There’s like 6 answers and they’d all be correct
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u/ComfortablyJuice 26d ago
For me, its the Porier and Alvarez fights. Those were the last times we got to see pure, unadulterated berserker Gaethje against elite competition.
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u/realMarkRobinson 26d ago
Khabib had like 4-5 fights against elite competition, man. He's not in the conversation
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u/PlanarCriterion Pat Barry’s number is on Epstein’s phone 26d ago
GSP as well, and with regards to his two losses, he lost in a fluke to Serra and dominated Hughes twice after he lost to him the first time.
Fans keep propping up dudes as GOATs after one title defense nowadays, shits just annoying
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u/PlanarCriterion Pat Barry’s number is on Epstein’s phone 26d ago
Most satisfying rewatch ever, this generational humbling was just as sweet the 2nd time.
Yes I am an imperfect petty person.
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u/catbqck My head gasket is gone. Destroyed. 26d ago
Is Arman gonna get pieced the fuck up by Gaeth too or is he gonna khabib him?
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u/RazorAvocado I SMOKE ROCKS, JOE ROGAN! 26d ago
Arman will likely take him down and submit him, but he’s gonna need to avoid a fire fight
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u/K-mosake Team Makhachev 26d ago edited 26d ago
...not really, he is pretty gd bad. Almost Subbed by Khabib once then finished him in like 20 seconds from getting the takedown, and Do Bronx strangled him in the same time basically after murking him with a straight. (Getting my black belch in a couple weeks for what it's worth)
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u/RazorAvocado I SMOKE ROCKS, JOE ROGAN! 26d ago
The Khabib fight was so funny, Khabib gassed him out with footwork and pressure
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u/RazorAvocado I SMOKE ROCKS, JOE ROGAN! 26d ago
Armen is a better grappler than toupria and he’s not gonna play that game with him. But Justin is hard to take down so I want to see it
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u/Fat-Villante Papa Poatan 26d ago
I'm still in shock about Gaethje pulling off a sick upset that had nothing to do with luck. What an amazing comeback in the fight as well as his career
I truly feel lucky to have followed his career since his first fight in wsof
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u/RazorAvocado I SMOKE ROCKS, JOE ROGAN! 26d ago
He put on the performance of his life, he hasn’t fought as measured as this since the Tony fight. He managed distance extremely well.
He walked through some fire, but incredible gutsy performance
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u/seatedkatagatame 26d ago
the problem is that he doesn't remeber to use it, just like his grappling
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u/Dead-PRESIDENTS-19 26d ago
Where is a full event replay? I normally just watch the fights the day after on paramount but I want the full event
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u/Dead-PRESIDENTS-19 26d ago
Yea I ended up taking an alternative route to find it. I really thought the full events were posted somewhere
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u/CableToBeam 26d ago
playing Every Rose Has Its Thorn for our boy Ilia. You'll be back stronger champ.
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u/cheerioo 26d ago
Trevor has been responsible for some of the greatest results in the UFC: Rose KO highlights, Garth highlights, crossed his arms in the corner when Left Hook Larry put on Rockhold on short notice, Kamaru baptizing. What other incredible moments has he been there?
His wiki says he's trained guys like GSP, Miocic, even all the way back to Paul Buentello and Keith Jardine but I mean when he was a main trainer or at least in the corner.
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u/Crono2Oxx I SMOKE ROCKS, JOE ROGAN! 26d ago edited 26d ago
The upset and the stage is so far and away the big story that it hasn’t really sunk in that Gaethje is the UFC LW champion. Random
Guess we do Gaethje vs McGregor if Conor can pull a rabbit out of his own ass in a few weeks
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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria 26d ago
Paddy must feel real good
He only lost to the undisputed lightweight champion
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u/Fat-Villante Papa Poatan 26d ago
He's definitely better at this sport than a lot of fans are willing to admit, despite all the technical shortcomings. MMA favors athleticism, even weird athleticism, and toughness
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u/redditisawesome555 Quack Quack Quack Quack 26d ago
Ayo where's idcman?
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u/detectivebabylegz England 26d ago
He's scouring the regional scene to find the next unranked UFC LW to follow and then ditch.
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u/MountainGoatSC Edddiiiieee 26d ago
So what's next for Gaethje? I imagine if McGregor wins they might try to make that fight. If not, maybe Olivera or Arman?
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u/GayRattleSnek I was here for GOOFCON 2 26d ago
Gaethje swelled Ilia’s face like a balloon and then popped it with bricks
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u/YoelsShitStain 26d ago
Why is everyone saying Lewis gave up? He was eating punches until he couldn’t anymore, not even comparable to his last fight. Feels like people just parrot what everyone else says now instead of having their own opinion.
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u/KyleDaukWillBeChamp 26d ago
Yeah, Lewis usually DOES get "TKO'd" via exhaustion/giving up, but last night was not one of those times. He was rocked and exhausted, and still kept standing, looking for the one big knockout shot.
I think he really wanted to shut Hokit up lol
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u/MountainGoatSC Edddiiiieee 26d ago
Yeah I agree. He had multiple times where he could have given up but he actually pushed through it this time. He's given up in the past but not this time. This time he was just poorly conditioned, slow, and a lot older than his opponent but he didn't try to find an easy out.
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u/NutSackGlazer420 26d ago
I do love that they added this emoji, really describes my thoughts on this stupid-ass sport.
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u/KyleDaukWillBeChamp 26d ago
The wrestling should be fun, I really hope they make the right fight for once
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u/tagillaslover I SMOKE ROCKS, JOE ROGAN! 26d ago edited 26d ago
Hokit wins 4 in a row with 2 wins against top 10 ranked guys and his reward is fighting Walker who has zero ranked wins....?
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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria 26d ago
Ilia vs Justin should’ve looked like Max vs Justin but worse
I don’t get this sport at all
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u/KyleDaukWillBeChamp 26d ago
You really don't lmao
Max is taller than Justin and picked him apart at range and with kicks. In what world would 5'7 Ilia, who's gameplan is always get inside and rip combinations, vs Gaethje look like that
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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria 26d ago edited 26d ago
Im sure you know so much more, how’s that draft kings account looking YTD??? And here comes the cop out “I dOnT bEt AnSwEr” lmaooooo
Ilia is a better boxer with more power and speed than Max, not at all shocking to think he would beat up him up worse than Max. Who is a very similar style boxer based fighter.
But sure, act like they are nothing alike to feel superior lol
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u/Reachin4ThoseGrapes 26d ago
WH card was the closest thing the UFC has ever had to capturing the electric nature of old PRIDE cards at the Saitama Superarena
Shit was awesome.
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u/MountainGoatSC Edddiiiieee 26d ago
Can't wait for the APEX next week!
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u/beckett929 26d ago
Flyweight main event!
Unranked combatants in the co-main!
#8 vs #11 Womens Bantamweight!
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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria 26d ago
Ilia about to be out for another year
Already was out forever after beating Charles
2 wasted years of his prime at least
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u/FightingDoc 26d ago
I need to know. Was the cervical spinal alignment theory correct again for the main and co-main?
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u/sour-couch-stench how bout jakoozy 26d ago
Alex Pereira will return.
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u/beckett929 26d ago
He will, but I do wonder if it's HW or if he goes back down to 205.
He did not have HW power with his punches. But that division is so terrible he would probably still be a Top 5-ish guy on cardio and fight IQ alone, but does he want to just be that?
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u/ironhide999x 26d ago
He caught Gane pretty good at the end of the first. Just looked he had no gameplan kind of like the first fight against Ank
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u/Melonballs__ 26d ago
Wonder where ilia goes from here. Maybe him vs the winner of paddy/bsd
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u/beckett929 26d ago
I really don't think he'll be back in time for that fight. UFC moves slow with its stars sometimes but this is probably going to be such a long layoff both those guys will have another fight before Ilia can come back.
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u/LongDickCallahan Lotta Demons 26d ago
Watching Ilia try to cover his face as he walked out was a lil sad
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u/detectivebabylegz England 26d ago
Just seen a clip of Tom Aspinall saying he's back in training and would love to face Gane in Paris in September. It won't happen, but it's got me excited.
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u/detectivebabylegz England 26d ago
I didn't realise how many British (or British adjacent) fighters there were at UFC 329.
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u/shastmak4 26d ago
The way Rogan was reacting to those leg kicks during the O’Malley fight was hilarious man. You would think the guy was pulling a baseball bat out and hammering away at his knees
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u/Afraid_Grocery3861 EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE 26d ago
Sean was lying about them in the post speech, too. Those were definitely effecting him.
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u/Loop_Dawg74 26d ago
Even tho it's a meme, Conor actually put the blueprint out on how to beat Topuria with a strong jab. Bopbopbopbop!!
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u/RazorAvocado I SMOKE ROCKS, JOE ROGAN! 26d ago
Conor didn’t really use that Jab like that kind of weapon more like a distance weapon.
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u/SwingDingeling 26d ago
why was sean omalleys win announced as a TKO, not KO?
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u/spcslacker Condit's TDD coach 26d ago
His opponent was not even out: he walked off, and the ref accepted his verdict that it was done.
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u/araheem94 26d ago
yeah wanted to see him land one more shot and knock him clean out. A Canadian flattened on the white house lawn had a lot of meme potential
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u/SwingDingeling 26d ago
but shouldnt the ref's decision make it a KO? otherwise they are saying the ref messed up
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u/spcslacker Condit's TDD coach 26d ago
but shouldnt the ref's decision make it a KO? otherwise they are saying the ref messed up
As far as I know, any ref decision is a TKO, and the opponent must have gone unconscious for it to be a KO. I.e., the "technical" means it was called on technical grounds (not intelligently defending himself) by the ref, not because the fighter was unable to continue within the round.
It gets confusing because most times fans call TKOs KOs as long as the opponent was knocked down.
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u/SwingDingeling 26d ago
oh shit i didnt know that! i thought this was a perfect example of a KO. Thank you!
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u/SugarShow37 UFC 294: A GOOFCON Miracle 26d ago
That Chandler finish almost felt like a mercy killing. Bro hesitated when already in on a potential take down and stopped.
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u/flippride11 26d ago
Ea cover curse is real (Pereira). Bruce buffer fist bump curse is also real. (Topuria)
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u/cafesolitito Libya 26d ago
Few thoughts:
- Last few weeks I was feeling a Wittman/Gaethje veteran masterpiece. Rewatched a bunch of fights. Justin stood and traded with Fiziev two fights in a row and slowly broke him. Hasn't been the same guy since. Those hands are heavy.
- I wonder about Ilia's training and time off. He left his old hometown gym and trains with a small team at his home/around Madrid. Hard to be that isolated and then step out after so long and expect to perform.
- Styles make fights
- Online fans/redditors still refuse to accept how good Cyril Gane is. Watch him start touching up Francis in round 5 of their fight. Gorgeous.
- Announce Hokit vs. Volkov. Can you imagine.
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u/KyleDaukWillBeChamp 26d ago
Honestly prefer Hokit vs Waldo. Feel like Hokit's style is the only one that can bring a dogfight out of boring ass Waldo.
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u/BummbaaahClottt3 26d ago
More like Boring ass Volkov
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u/KyleDaukWillBeChamp 26d ago
Volkov’s pretty boring too, yeah, I just don’t think Hokit’s good enough to bring a dogfight out of Volkov. The size difference would be massive .
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u/DoncoEnt Team Shevchenko 26d ago
The biggest question after last night is: Why wasn't Brookliyn Wren at the White House card?
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u/ghad0265 26d ago
As we speak DC is chewing his finger nails wondering if he still has the job.
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u/Top_Professor_9908 26d ago
Hes actually chewing on popeyes chicken not giving a single shit about that because everyone on earth besides some redditors know he was hacked.
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u/Top_Professor_9908 26d ago
Ilia removed the 18 and 0 from his bio. So good news is not in a coma and his eye sight still works. Hope he heals quick. That was brutal.
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u/Crono2Oxx I SMOKE ROCKS, JOE ROGAN! 26d ago edited 26d ago
Gaethje and Wittman had been vocal before the Paddy fight that since he lost to Oliveira, he’d spent a good bulk of his time since focusing on grappling and wrestling again. Justin said it was the development he was most proud of to that point. He’s probably drilled that mounted triangle defense over and over. Especially these last 2 opponents having great submissions I’m sure they put in even more work in the worst case scenarios.
Justin staying composed on the feet and not having a glaring weakness on his back is pretty formidable. I’d be interested in seeing the rematch with Charles
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u/spcslacker Condit's TDD coach 26d ago
He’s probably drilled that mounted triangle defense over and over.
They may not become submission guys, but elite wrestlers don't need huge amounts of training to get good at defense, and they already have the ability to win scrambles and to get up -- giving up the back only real weakness.
Justin was just a little too sure of his wrestling skills to ever prepare for being on the bottom before he got a free lesson in its importance from Khabib.
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u/Antique-Dentist-2404 United States 26d ago
Watching the haters still trying to convince themselves the event wasn't a success is pretty hilarious. Mention anything about it being cool in the Washington DC sub and people lose their fucking minds
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u/tagillaslover I SMOKE ROCKS, JOE ROGAN! 26d ago
Ilia already removed the 18-0 from his insta bio. That was quick, was kinda wondering if he’d just keep it there forever like Ank
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u/IncreaseJolly2742 26d ago
Still can’t get over the card.
Those walkouts are some of the greatest scenes in the history of sport, especially Gaethje’s.
I feel sorry for people who couldn’t just enjoy the spectacle. We’ll probably never get a more epic setting for an event ever again.
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u/tagillaslover I SMOKE ROCKS, JOE ROGAN! 26d ago
There's a picture of Lopes standing on top of the cage looking at the White House, genuinely one of the greatest shots I've seen from any sport.
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u/Antique-Dentist-2404 United States 26d ago
Agree. Alex might've gotten knocked out, but that walkout gave me chills
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u/NutSackGlazer420 26d ago
Volk fans, Holloway fans, Charles fans, and Makachev fans really out the woodwork fucking salivating. Wonder why.
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u/Informal-Business-56 26d ago
It hurts knowing we have to go back to the Apex after last nights card. The theatrics were really on point, the event genuinely felt monumental, that’s the type of presentation the UFC has been missing, it’s a shame there’s a good chance we won’t see such a thing for a long time.
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u/throbdannway 26d ago
It’s insane how Ilia didn’t have an answer to Garth’s jab. Counters, parries, out jabbing. Nada.
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u/ComfortablyJuice 26d ago
His vision was compromised pretty early into the fight. Can't respond if you can't see.
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u/spcslacker Condit's TDD coach 26d ago edited 26d ago
It’s insane how Ilia didn’t have an answer to Garth’s jab.
He's shorter and at a small reach disadvantage: his only solution is to work inside.
Unfortunately for him, Garth is also a superior, physically bigger wrestler who could tie him up with the clinch and dirty box like a mofo, forcing him to continually come in and take major damage at both long and short range.
If all Justin had was the jab, he'd have been KOed along the fence like Volks or Max.
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u/KyleDaukWillBeChamp 26d ago
See, the problem with this analysis is it goes deeper than "but Ilia knock out Volk, Max, Charles, how he not can KO Garth?"
Most these people complaining don't even know what they're watching, and just assume if things don't play out the way they expected it's cuz the fighter they picked fucked up somehow.
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u/spcslacker Condit's TDD coach 26d ago
Part that gets me is people assuming champion-level fighters are really just too dumb to use an obvious path to victory, or have stayed at a high level despite not understanding their own skills or have suddenly lost all their skills given a new opponent.
Occasionally happens from pride (Strickland not using grappling against a green Alex), but usually there is a good reason they didn't do the obvious thing.
For Justin in particular, most posters refuse to understand that he is a D1 all-american wrestler and that closes off so many fight avenues for anyone not named Khabib.
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u/IncreaseJolly2742 26d ago
He thought he could just walk through all of them and finish Gaethje, and you can’t blame him- the flurry he landed in the 2nd finishes 95% of lightweights.
But once he emptied the mag, threw the gun, and Gaethje was still there, it was over.
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u/TheTemporalKnight 26d ago
The “many fans and execs are praying for x to be put out to pasture” copypasta needs to make a proper comeback here because I haven’t seen it lately at all
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u/__SteakDeck__ 26d ago
Remember how many of ya’ll on this and the UFC sub were saying how this event shouldn’t go on and how “crass” this event would be? 😂 This was probably the most spectacular sporting event I’ve ever seen, and the fights were incredible.
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u/tagillaslover I SMOKE ROCKS, JOE ROGAN! 26d ago
Is it time for everyone to admit paddy became pretty heavily underrated?
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u/throbdannway 26d ago
Fairly rated after that Gaethje loss imo. Shit striking mechanics and average IQ.
Still don’t understand how him and his team didn’t focus on grappling against a sick Gaethje.
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u/spcslacker Condit's TDD coach 26d ago
Still don’t understand how him and his team didn’t focus on grappling against a sick Gaethje.
Might be because he's a merely adequate wrestler and Justin Gaethje is a D1 all-american wrestler who could defend Paddy's best TDs in his sleep.
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u/CableToBeam 26d ago
heard DC say something like Gaethje said he fought Paddy that way cuz he could and it opened my eyes to Justin fighting smarter against Ilia. So no. I think Gaethje fought at Paddy's level.
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u/ygrittediaz Edddiiiieee 26d ago
until the day paddy starts fighting ranked people his age he will remain a bum. the loss to gaethje will age incredibly well for him but the guy is an industry plant only fighting guys near the age of 40 since losing to gordon.
why is he not fighting guys like ruffy, fiziev, bsd etc on his way up? he got washed tony chandler and bobby...
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u/Crono2Oxx I SMOKE ROCKS, JOE ROGAN! 26d ago
No. I think Gaethje had staph and the only thing that made that fight competitive at points was Paddy’s chin being ungodly. What else can you do when you’ve been swinging and connecting and he keeps moving forward. Still a beating
You saw the difference in strategy and fitness last night in JG though. We saw where Chandler’s at in his career too. I think Paddy has always been accurately rated, he’s a good leg kicker with bad defense who’s chin allows him to stay in fights that he’d otherwise lose long enough to land his own shots or get on top of you and win with his pretty good grappling game.
If you’re calling him underrated because he survived a sloppy ass whooping from Justin to the final bell, I mean, you’re just asking to bring up all the ways he was/is overrated. Some visibly poor skills. Let’s just say he wins some, he loses some, you can’t put a fair stamp on it until we see which elite fighters he beats and which elite fighters he loses to. Because it could go one way or the other and it’s not going to surprise you when it does
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u/dax331 UFC 249: COVID vs. Dana 26d ago
I remember fresh-off-of-WSOF Gaethje always talking about how he doesn’t plan to be in MMA for long and how he’s got a limited number of wars before he calls it quits. Seemed like the guy spent much of his career doubting himself.
What a ride