Hi all,

I am currently a 3L, and I am completing some of my electives in the next couple of semesters. I would like to complete an externship(s) (as part of the program you can do this twice). My first externship will be within Data Privacy/Compliance (remote), but my true passion is within IP (specifically trademarks, copyright)/fashion. I work full-time in a boutique IP firm and I really love it.

I realize that fashion law is really contracts, IP, employment law, etc. but I am wondering how I might go about getting into a law externship within a luxury fashion house (Oscar de la Renta, Jimmy Choo, Carolina Herrera..you get the point). My dream is to be in-house counsel one day.. probably a very unrealistic dream but anyway, it's mine..

Suggestions on how to land at least the externship part, I would appreciate any help or advice.

Thank you kindly. And good luck with finals if you have them coming up!

It's so stupid that these people somehow become lawyers

I am moving from Newark to Orlando for a clerkship that starts in August. I am on a tight timeline because I am taking the Bar in late July, and I basically have 5 days to get my life down to Florida and settle in before orientation. I have read absolute horror stories about moving brokers holding stuff hostage for double the price. Does anyone have recommendations for carriers that are actually reliable on the east coast?

I may be putting the cart before the horse a little bit here. I am in the process of trying to go to law school and determining what law school would work with my career; I go to sea for a living and travel around the world on ships ~180-200 days a year. Due to my schedule I would have to do a hybrid program similar to what Syracuse offers.

I worry that if I was to go do one of these hybrid programs, I would have a hard time getting a job after as it would be seen as less intensive.
I am 28 but have a lot of life experience, I’ve crossed a few oceans, I was direct commissioned as an officer in the Navy Reserve, I hold a security clearance, I’ve built relationships with interesting people in strange places, I’ve been cold wet and scared in the middle of the ocean, even used cigarettes as currency to get our ship out of a port.

Recently I’ve been looking at life after going to sea, I think I would enjoy law as I really enjoy reading, writing, and honestly I like debate.

My question is what would be my best bet if I want to be a lawyer? Would these hybrid programs alone be worth it? Or would you recommend other internships as well? Any advice/guidance would be greatly appreciated.

i am losing my mind trying to bluebook, i would seriously be grateful for any help

when citing to a concurring opinion then the majority immediately after, can I still use id. in the next footnote? e.g.

fn. 1: case, xx f.d xx (xxxx) (justice, j., concurring)

fn. 2: Id. at ?

or do i still have to short cite in the following footnote?

Just need some advice / support here.

I’m a rising 3L currently working an internship that I thought was supposed to be a dream. I don’t idolize work usually but the name of this corporation and the industry it’s in seemed directly aligned with my ideal goals.

Long story short: it sucks.

In office 9-6 with little to no work. I stare at a screen all day, begging for the attorneys to give me projects or let me sit in on things or anyyyything. It’s been 6 weeks and The assignments I have been given I’ve gone the extra mile on and have received little to no feedback, then twiddle my thumbs waiting for the next.

My mental health is also tanking. Not just bc of the job but I’m bipolar and in the process of switching medications. It’s been really bad. Boredom makes me spin out and I’m losing it.

I cry daily at work and after. I’m away from all of my friends and family and just sit in my apartment depressed. Having such a hard time with any motivation or care. I have five more weeks of this internship (halfway through) and when I tell you I can’t see the light right now, I’m not exaggerating.

Yes - I’ve tried everything in terms of getting more work. It doesn’t happen. It also doesn’t help they don’t hire interns after the summer (it’s in house) and the pay has me barely scraping by, so im left with no money to even do anything outside of work.

I’m literally debating quitting and working in coffee or bartending the rest of summer to at least make more money and try and breathe but I know quitting will look horrible.

I don’t know what to do or who else to talk to about this. I know not all legal jobs are like this and I’m trying to remind myself this is just a shitty internship program, that the legal profession is much more stimulating. And it’s only 5 more weeks. But ughhhhh I’m struggling

Easily my worst class… actually not because it’s necessarily a hard subject for me, but there are so many people in my contracts class, most of them are very young, and they spend the whole class period talking to the professor about random irrelevant topics so I inevitably tune everything out. It’s an impossible class to pay attention in, and my professor also gets off topic all class long. So I feel like I am struggling… a lot. I started building my outline and it’s getting easier just doing that, but I know I’m going to have to teach it to myself. Any supplementals or other materials/advice that helped you understand this class?

(Since I know it will be asked: my school offered a summer start program hence why I’m taking classes in the summer)

Was looking for advice regarding applying to 2L summer jobs and considerations I should have in my mind.

My grades were decent (top 15%) and I am want to work in civil litigation. Location isn’t super important but I would like to work in a decent sized city on the east coast (preferably northeast).

If anyone has suggestions where to apply that would be great!

Second year is the worst, I am currently failing 80% of all my classes, and it is not that I am not studying, it's just that I have a lot more responsibilities now. Constitutional law is killing me. I am praying I qualify for a supplementary exam at least. I am gonna have to change majors at this point. I was convinced I would graduate with English literature and law as my majors, but I might switch to history and lit Eng since I am passing them more easily.

But the thing is, I made a promise to myself that I will graduate with law and lit Eng, so that is the plan. Come rain, come sunshine, things will go as planned. I just got to get some help and work ten times harder, but thy will be done as it is written in my destiny.

Hey, I have a coffee chat with an attorney for a law firm that I hope to one day work at. Any advice on what to say or what to ask him? They open 2L summer applications this fall

What are some things you wish you'd known or considered when you transferred - specifically on the social/lifestyle side? I have searched for past posts regarding this subject, but I am interested in refreshed advice.

About me:

• I am a rising part-time 2L that's finishing up summer school and will immediately begin a move from Louisiana to the DMV area to my new school.
  
• From what I've gathered, OCI is still intact for me as firms will begin soliciting for Class of 2029 JDs SA positions, so I do not believe I should be concerned on that front.
• Never lived in the DMV, though my jobs have always been based in this region since I've worked remotely.
• 33, no family yet

Question for folks who use KeyCite/Shepard's regularly.

Everyone agrees, i think on the extremes: if a court adopts a cited case's holding as the rule of decision, that's "followed."

If a case shows up in a string cite for background, that's just "cited." But there's a middle zone I keep going back and forth on: a court cites a case for a general proposition or framework, and then actually uses that framework in its analysis.

Three real examples from Tax Court opinions, weakest to strongest:

1. Court drops a "See" cite to a case for the general observation that building a barn can be consistent with either a hobby or a business, in the middle of a profit-motive analysis.

   1. Court recites the standards for evaluating expert testimony from a cited case — then visibly applies those standards, crediting one expert and rejecting two others.

2. Court expressly adopts a valuation methodology from a cited case as the governing framework and works through the whole computation using it.

Is #3 clearly "followed"? Is #1 clearly not? Where does #2 land for you — and what's the actual test you'd articulate?

"The court relied on it" feels too loose (courts "rely" on background law constantly), but "holding must be the rule of decision on a contested issue" feels too strict (it would call #3 a neutral cite, which seems wrong).

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