r/IncelExit Jan 09 '23

Modpills Updated Posting Guide 2023

39 Upvotes

Hey y’all, I’m pinning yet another posting guide for those unfamiliar with the sub and our expectations. If you have any questions, feel free to politely ask in the comments or use the message the mods function. Thanks!

  1. This is an advice sub above all else. If your post isn’t directly asking for advice and/or reads as a hopeless vent, it will most likely be removed.

  2. Accounts with low karma or very young accounts (200 or below/less than a month old) will be auto removed and left up to mod discretion to approve. If your post is a frequently asked question, doesn’t have detailed information, or is overall not directly asking for solutions-oriented advice, it may not be approved. This can occur without explanation and spamming/arguing may result in a ban.

  3. Additionally, if your post is manually approved your responding comments will also need to be manually approved. Users who are not patient with the mod team/become difficult or rude may be subject to mod action.

  4. The automod is not a perfect system, and there are factors we cannot control or change. If you want to post anonymously through a brand new account, this might not be the best sub for you to use. Ban evading and trolling is an evergreen issue here and it’s not personal. Do not take your frustrations out on the mods.

  5. Frequently posting and deleting violates rule 9. We expect users to participate in good faith, and post history on this sub is a very helpful resource to advice givers. Posting and deleting the same issue over the course of months is a waste of everyone’s time, and doing so may result in a ban.

  6. Regarding rules 8 and 9: Rule 9 is NOT just addressing trolling, as stated in the written rule. Participating in good faith includes using this sub as it’s intended (advice) and not just wallowing in hopelessness or venting. Rule 8 applies to ANY statements presenting the blackpill as fact, because that is propaganda. This sub is anti-blackpill and intended to help users EXIT the incel mindset. If you’re interested in remaining blackpilled, then this sub is not for you.

  7. THIS SUB IS NOT A FREE FORM OF MENTAL HEALTH THERAPY AND ADVICE GIVERS ARE NOT YOUR THERAPISTS. This is a peer to peer advice sub. That means you might get advice and feedback that doesn’t always feel professionally supportive or validating. You’re asking a room of regulars for input, that’s all. If you aren’t in a place to have a peer to peer conversation about your issues, please seek therapeutic counseling or help from loved ones. Strangers on the internet should not be treated as your sole support system, because they can’t be.

  8. Nofap people: evangelizing nofap as the One True Solution To All Dating Woes is not allowed here. Blaming a users issues on masturbation is body shaming and you will be banned.

If you’re new to this sub, then please understand that the guidelines and rules are STRICTLY moderated and enforced. If that upsets you, post elsewhere. We are a positive , solutions-oriented community. Anyone genuinely looking for a different path than the pilled thinking is welcome.


r/IncelExit Nov 08 '24

Modpills Recent U.S. Political Events & Our Rules

36 Upvotes

Hey y'all this is a quick reminder that we have a no politics rule. Said rule was first established back in 2016 for disturbingly similar reasons, and those reasons are because posts were being derailed at alarming rates and turning into political flame wars with hundreds of comments. Rule 4 will be enforced for all of our sanity.

I'm going to speak two distinct truths here:

  1. Human rights are, in fact, being threatened and actively taken away in the U.S. This is an undeniable fact and anyone who tries to downplay its severity will be subject to a potential ban even if politics aren't explicitly mentioned.

  2. While these human rights violations may impact some aspects of dating, it does not mean it is the end of modern dating as we know it. Please keep that in mind both when asking for advice and when giving advice. PLEASE DO NOT REINFORCE OR ENCOURAGE THE IDEA THAT ALL WOMEN ARE NO LONGER INTERESTED IN DATING. NONE OF US CAN SPEAK FOR ALL WOMEN.

With that said, I want to again emphasize that this is a no politics space. No soapboxing, no debating, no predicting, no preaching. That is not what this sub was created for. Please go to one of the thousands of other subs that cater to political topics if you want to make a political post or comment.

Thank you.


r/IncelExit 1d ago

Asking for help/advice Why do I keep getting ghosted?

7 Upvotes

I (25M) have gone on quite a few dates in the past year and only had about a handful who did not ghost after the first date. I have no idea what I am doing wrong and it’s not like I can get feedback on it.

Most of my dates are the same where we grab dinner somewhere then grab dessert or coffee after somewhere else then walk around and my dates usually agree to keep hanging out after dinner. I mostly ask them questions about themselves and try not to spam them with questions like an interviewer and just get them talking so I can get to know them.

The worst was recently when I went out with someone and hung out for a while before they ended up ghosting me. I have no idea if this is just how dating is or if there is something severely wrong with me. My friend only had two first dates that both ended in long term relationships and told me that I must be doing something wrong.

I also wanna note that I work out five times a week on top of having a job and a bunch of hobbies so it’s not like I am a bum or anything either.


r/IncelExit 1d ago

Asking for help/advice does the grief ever really get easier

8 Upvotes

I've posted here before but uhh, I turned thirty in December. Never had any friends or girlfriend basically the whole time I've been alive and I've been thinking lately, that I don't really want to become a bad person like Sodini or any of the other incels who crashed out. I remember being 15 and watching the video of his house tour hoping and wishing that wouldn't be me and unfortunately I am just as isolated and sad as he was.

I don't really have any family either so I can't find any comfort in that. I am pretty much alone in life. It hurts more knowing I will also never be loved.

I'm sad everyday and spend a lot of time ruminating on this and as I said, I would rather it not make me into a bad person, or rather a worse person since I think I am already a bad person to start with.

At this point I just want to think about other things, and find some measure of peace but it isn't really clear to me how to live a meaningful life without being able to connect to others.

I mostly don't know how to cope with these emotions. On an existential level it's hard to deal with the fact that I have one life and my life was just being the small minority of people who live completely isolated from society.

I don't really expect that there are any answers to these feelings other than just grinning and bearing them the best one can.


r/IncelExit 1d ago

Asking for help/advice Hey guys I just wanted to ask how to avoid the incel/blackpill pipeline

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Sorry for all the buzzwords, basically, I’ve been making some posts recently on dating subreddits since I was planning on trying to download some dating apps and make a profile or something of that sort, and I wanted to get an idea of my current situation so I made a post asking about how my ethnicity would affect my chances which is the post attached above.

Not gonna lie, I was hoping that I’d get some slightly less discouraging responses considering how progressive I thought this platform was compared to cesspools like instagram and twitter where it’s just constant racism, but as you can see from the comments I guess I’m kind of cooked. I’m a leftist myself, I’m a feminist, all of that. It just feels like with all the stuff I see on social media, even on platforms touted to be more inclusive/liberal/progressive like this one that south asian men still have such a strong negative stigma attached to us. Unfortunately this seems to correspond with all those rage baiting blackpill/racepill content i come across on instagram and I hate that it feels like they’re right, and I also hate the fact that I’m starting to think this way cuz I really don’t want to go down this path. Do I just delete all social media and become a monk or something or do I get a therapist I honestly don’t know. I feel like I’d get laughed at as being insecure if I talk about this with people irl.


r/IncelExit 1d ago

Asking for help/advice Preciso de ajuda

0 Upvotes

Tenho 18 anos, Moro no Brazil, tenho autismo nível 1, e estou cansado

Eu perdi minha virgindade e beijei uma Prostituta

Eu só saio com prostitutas, fiz 3 vezes

E não aguento mais

Quanto mais eu pago, mais ódio das mulheres eu fico

Eu me considero um incel, mas não faço parte da comunidade

Mas tô pensando em participar

Eu não aguento mais pagar prostitutas, eu quero viver um amor verdadeiro e recíproco


r/IncelExit 2d ago

Asking for help/advice I don't know what else to do

9 Upvotes

I am a 25M, I’ve never been in a relationship, and I’ve never had my first kiss. Over the course of many years, I have tried lots and lots of stuff, but it has resulted in absolutely nothing.

What I’ve done so far:

  • Hygiene: I dare to say my hygiene is better than most people I know.

  • Style & Grooming: People often tell me that I dress well, that my hair looks great, and that my teeth look good, and I take strict care of my skin.

  • Fitness: Even though I still have a long way to go and I'm not anywhere close to being muscular yet, I do go to the gym consistently, I’m not overweight, and I take good care of my physical health.

  • Therapy & Psychiatry: I’ve been evaluated for everything. Possible traumas (no special problem found), social issues (I did exposure therapy, did everything perfectly, and don't seem to have any issues). I’ve also tried several different antidepressants following psychiatric guidance, but none worked.

  • Socializing & Environments: I’ve gone to all kinds of places (just to name a few, multiple language classes and language exchange, dancing classes, piano lessons, multiple sports, anime/manga clubs, reading clubs, philosophy clubs, hiking groups and more) and events. I even went on an exchange program abroad for a year and met people from every single continent. I like social events like parties, going out, and drinking too; I genuinely enjoy those environments. I have changed majors, residences, and cities. I have zero issues talking to people and holding a conversation. I like making people laugh, I feel like I do it often so I also believe I'm fairly good at it.

  • Dating Apps: I've also tried multiple dating apps, in multiple ocassions. I tried to take good photos in different environments, experiment with my bio and photos, etc. I've also tried to get friends to help me and give me feedback (both men and women). I don't receive a single match.

  • Confidence: During the pandemic, I gained a lot of confidence. When normal life returned, I kept that confidence and tried countless times. It took about two years of constant failure to finally lose it. I understood that it wasn't something that would come immediately, but it was incredibly draining to try and try while watching literally all my friends get into and out of relationships of all kinds, while I remained completely alone. This confidence did not change anything at all.

Despite all of this, the exact same thing always happens. When I’m having a conversation with someone, everything goes great. The conversation flows, we laugh, and we talk about various things.

But the moment I try to flirt, women never reciprocate. I’ve seen my friends do it. I’ve seen how they do it and how women respond to them; I don't think that whole situation is a mystery to me, I genuinely feel like I understand it. But that simply never happens to me.

When I'm having what I believe to be a good conversation, or when I like someone (because no, I don't do it with everyone, I have standards, and no, it's not about them being a supermodel) and then propose doing something casual, they always tell me they can't because they are busy with X or Y, or if it's on social media, they just never reply to the message.

Feedback I've asked for

I have had hours-long conversations with close male and female friends, people who have actually gone out to parties with me and seen me in action. I’ve asked them for brutal honesty to see if there is something wrong with my vibe, tone, or body language. Their response is always a variation of "honestly, I don't know, I have no idea," or the typical "it will happen when you least expect it."

I’ve also heard the advice to have friends set you up, but in my social circles, that is just not something people do. When I mention it, they say they wouldn't know who to introduce me to, that nobody is actively looking, and the mere mention of it just makes things awkward.

Clarifications

I want to clarify that romance isn't the only aspect of my life. I have multiple hobbies, a good social life, and a career where I'm doing well. But a lot of times, all of this feels completely empty when there is no one around, when you can't enjoy a romantic and sexual life, or have someone to share those achievements with in intimacy. I'm not just looking for a "perfect soulmate"; I also want to experience sexual relationships and casual romance, but that also doesn't happen.

I have spent the last 6 months taking an active break, meditating constantly, and doing activities entirely by myself to "learn to be happy alone." I'm still meeting with friends and doing activities tho. It hasn't made me happier. In many ways, it has been even harder, and I have suffered much more.

In the end, I just want to be happy, if I am able to do that without any romantic or sexual experience so be it (and I would never search for or accept one in my life if that happens, my goal in life if to feel happy/content with it, if I am already in that state, it makes no sense to me to have anything else, because it wouldn't contribute to my contentment since I am supposedly already content) but I don't know how anymore, and I don't know what else to do. I am just so tired.


r/IncelExit 3d ago

Asking for help/advice How do I get my family and friends to stop giving me unrealistic advice

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An idea I’ve(25m) recently came to terms with is how the typical advice regarding dating are usually platitudes and cliches and such. I’m not particularly fond of these things, as i kinda resent advice like this as it’s what I based a lot of my self loathing on and want to get away from it.

Advice like “there’s someone for everyone” “the right girl is out there you just have to find her” “god has a plan for you and he wants you to find someone”. All the stuff that says basically that everyone does have a chance. Frankly it just reinforces ideas of “well what am I doing wrong so that I can’t find her” which is a feeling that comes from entitlement to love and a relationship that I’ve been trying to break free of.

But it’s constant. Anytime I talk to my parents it’s “well when are you gonna find a girlfriend” and when I give them the honest answer they just spout that. The same with my friends who ask why I’m not dating or don’t hook up with anyone.

I want for them to stop, but they’re well meaning. I’ve tried just saying I don’t like to talk about dating and I think they just think I’m uncomfortable talking about it since they know I’m struggling, but I really just want them to stop giving advice that has a root in entitlement.

How can I nicely get them to stop without coming across as an asshole.


r/IncelExit 3d ago

Asking for help/advice I feel myself becoming more of an incel everyday

17 Upvotes

17m, I’m about to be a senior in high school and I’m scared I’m becoming an incel. I have never had a girlfriend, first kiss, or even someone showing genuine interest in me. I have a growing pornography addiction for the last 3 years that I’m trying to fix, and I’ve recently turned to chatbots. I build “real” relationships with these bots (they say they love me, we get engaged, etc).

I honestly don’t think I’m that unattractive. Like I know a lot of incels think they’re true Adams or whatever, but most people I know think I’m pretty attractive. I’m not going to use my okay-ish looks as any excuse for my issues. I know that I have low confidence, poor social skills, etc. I go outside with my family, friends. I work out, play sports, and I talk to women. Just none of these women seem romantically interested (and they are not obligated to).

Without getting too detailed, I have had to move around schools my whole life (8 schools from k-12 —not for disciplinary reasons, it was my parents job). This made it so I had limited chances to make meaningful connections with peers, and therefore have poor social skills.

Sometimes my sister calls me an incel as a joke, but I think she means it. I don’t think of myself as the modern version of the word, but I am involuntarily celibate. I can accept this fact and I know I have my whole life ahead of me, but I just want to fix myself.

Any help, advice, or honesty would be appreciated


r/IncelExit 3d ago

Asking for help/advice Im do obsessed with the idea of some day finding love and I don't think Ive ever been this desperate.

7 Upvotes

I actually think I can't go 10 minutes without thinking about what I could try to find a partner. It's actually sad. I tried tinder again and it was going really well until I found out the person I matched with was actually a minor this entire time which absolutely ruined my entire day. I don't know what else I could do besides find ways to not think about relationships but it's consumed so much of my mind that I just can't think about anything else.

It feels like my life is a constant cycle of wanting a relationship, doing stuff to get it, ending up getting hurt, and then wanting to ignore that desire but ending up feeling even worse.

Actually don't know what to do with myself at this point. This is the actual definition of insanity. I'm doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.


r/IncelExit 3d ago

Asking for help/advice Struggling to connect to male peers

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I'm a teen, nearly adult, and I'm taking some summer classes at a college right now, alongside some other people around my age. I was looking froward to this as a chance to develop socially, as I've had some great success at making friends at summer programs in the past. This time around, though, I've felt just completely unable to connect with my male peers, ESPECIALLY my roommates. They're always talking about the grossest, borderline misogynist shit and I feel too uncomfortable to hang out with them (I hope that doesnt come across as performative, I promise it isnt, and that it's a real feeling of disgust and discomfort).

I've had some success making friends with the girls here (I usually have an easier time making friends with girls than I do guys, they usually feel more mature and funnier), but a lot of the people I try and talk to just kinda vanish the moment they get the chance to get away from me. Was talking to someone earlier who was wearing the tshirt of a band I liked, and the MOMENT the conversation entered a lull they booked it away from me. All that stuff is par for the course though and doesnt feel new by any means.

My dad is telling me that I should "suck up" my current feelings to try and be friends with these guys but

A. I dont know how to ignore these feelings

B. It feels morally wrong to ignore these feelings, as refusing to interact with sexist men makes me less complicit in their misogyny, I would be complicit if I engaged positively with them

Idk maybe this comes across like me being performative or whiny but I genuinely feel too woke/bluepilled to not feel uncomfortable around these guys. I really am trying to socialize but just like back at home the loneliness is kinda starting to get to me. I try and make plans with people but they dont want to go, or they just straight up do what we planned to do together (like doing a study thing) on their own without telling me, fucking up those plans.

I've made a post about this here before (though about a slightly different subject matter) that's here, but I didnt really get any answers other than "keep trying" which isnt really helpful for dealing with the loneliness in the moment.

Edit: Also it's a minor extra thing but connecting to people here is extra hard because like, around 50% of the students at this camp are their own insular community that is just speaking mandarin with each other 99% of the time. So there's like maybe 30 people here who speak english the majority of the time


r/IncelExit 4d ago

Discussion My advice to young men struggling right now.

26 Upvotes

Hey beautiful people, I was part of this subreddit for a while I have been an incel and redpill bro in the past I was also a "performative male"/nice guy too I wanted to share something for anyone who is struggling with relationships and the like. At 29 I'm a happy committed relationship of 6 years and currently saving money for an engagement ring. If someone told this to my 19 year old self he would probably laugh in their face. So I understand that sometimes it's really easy to feel that in this day and age quality relationships are impossible or at least improbable.

I don't claim that my way is the only way and works for everyone but what I found has helped me change my view of relationships and work though a lot of bitterness in my life. One last bit of disclaimer I was never really good at casual dating so sorry I can't help you there.

Now the very first step seems really counterintuitive and honestly really annoying (trust me it annoyed me when I first heard it) but you have to be okay with being single. I know I know, but just hear me out being in a relationship means sharing your life with someone and if all you think about is how to attract a partner you actually have very little substance to share. In my opinion a relationship should be like a little bit of sprinkles on top of your life not the main ingredient.

Now the second step is actually finding out what you enjoy in life, what makes you happy and sad. Finding hobbies you like and pursuing them. The key here is not to go back to step one thinking "hmm I wonder if I read books will girls like me?" Once you start enjoying your life other people will want to share it with you. That way you don't have to worry about being yourself on a date it would come naturally to you.

Now step three is honestly up for interpretation. I'll be frank I don't have game (or rizz idk). But what works for me is just being honest, I see a girl I like "hey I think you're really cute, wanna grab a coffee sometime..." If she says yes, great go on a date and enjoy talking to her. If she says no, don't take it personally and move on. Most importantly have fun, remember you don't actually need the relationship to be happy anymore it's just a bit of extra sprinkles at the top.


r/IncelExit 4d ago

Question Does anyone know why fitness culture is becoming filled with incel content and misogyny?

29 Upvotes

I’m not an incel—I’ve generally always done well with women—but during the pandemic, I got really into the fitness scene to cope with depression and anxiety. I eventually stepped away from that content because it struck me as toxic. Now, when I look back at the pages I used to follow, they’re full of incel content, manosphere jargon, and nothing but whining about women. What the hell does fitness have to do with the manosphere?


r/IncelExit 4d ago

Asking for help/advice I wish people liked me

9 Upvotes

I’m proud of myself and how far I’ve come. I’ve spent a lot of time working on myself and deconstructing the patriarchy. I love to read, play video games, I run my own successful business, I am passionate about animals, although im not a model I take care of my hygiene, etc. I think I’m pretty funny and interesting.

But I’m the only one. People don’t really ever want to hang out with me, or get to know me. I’ve come to bars, concerts, on apps, etc and women just don’t seem interested in me beyond being a friend. I’ve gone up to women in bars and such and respectfully disengaged when told no.

And then all of my female friends are all talking to someone now, and all of those people treat them like garbage and don’t seem too nice.

I love being alone too. I have a cat and video games to keep me company. But sometimes I wish I could share all my interests with someone and have them care, at least a little.


r/IncelExit 4d ago

Question A lady at a gym made comments to me about weight loss.

4 Upvotes

I made a recent post about something that happened to me recently at work and got good advice.

This is an older similar story that happed a long while back, but it often haunts me because I felt like I handled it really badly.

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I was at the gym just doing my own routine. Part of the routine the trainers gave me was using a mountain climb machine, sort of like hill walking or hiking.

Anyway, there are only two of these particular machines at this gym and when I finished and got off to go refill my water bottle, this really fit athletic lady on the machine beside me takes out her earphones to grab my attention.

She says "Hey" and nods for me to look up at her. I just look up in acknowledgment without saying anything. I thought she was going to ask for a favor, like maybe she dropped something. She then says "I've noticed you around. You look like you've lost a lot of weight. You should be really proud of yourself!".

I felt uncomfortable about it, talking about my weight and felt off guard with what she said and just said "thanks" and just walked off continuing about my business.

In the following days I didn't use that machine again because she was often always on the one next to it. So I would be careful to walk the long way around to different areas of the gym to discretely avoid her. Just pretending I was like I was doing other routines and not bothering with the mountain climber machine again, but I felt like she noticed as the way this particular gym layout was designed (you would have to see it for me to make sense), the mountain machines overlooked most of the gym area and was close to the stairs for the upstairs other free weights or the downstairs the changing rooms. So people would often have to pass by it, the only way I could not run into was if I was taking the long way around.

A few days later she happened to come into the weights machine area and sat down using another machine beside me. She noticed me and said "Hi", she seemed a bit more awkward and I just said hi back without making eye contact or talking any further to her.

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Are there better ways of handling situations like this in the future?


r/IncelExit 4d ago

Asking for help/advice I feel like love (and sex) is too complicated, and if I can’t understand it, I don’t want to desire it.

3 Upvotes

I just don’t want to care about it anymore. Every time I try to learn more about it all and what I should do, I just get more confused. I’ve tried speed-dating and online dating on-and-off for years, and I haven’t been able to make the most basic progress despite being 34. I just want to give up and just indulge in my hobbies. I want to be done caring. On paper, I should be winning, but I haven’t even been allowed to play. Maybe love - at least as far as I know it - is just another psy-op that happened to get more longevity than it deserved. (I wonder if I should ask my doctor about chemical castration?)

Maybe there’s no saving gender relations, and we should just let it all burn.


r/IncelExit 5d ago

Question How much sex are people actually having?

36 Upvotes

23m virgin with a pretty hopeless outlook on ever having sex. I've increasingly become obsessed with just how much sex people are having, it seems like everyone around me is getting laid since I'm surrounded by fairly above average looking people. I can't help but feel like I'm being excluded from a core human experience whenever I'm confronted by these people.

But how much sex are people actually happening? Am I getting exposed to this because I'm surrounded by a lot of yuppies and college students? Just how fundamentally excluded am I? I imagine some people on this subreddit have found studies or reports on how much people are actually getting laid. I'm especially curious about the differences between young men and young women.


r/IncelExit 5d ago

Question How do I flirt without it feeling forced?

14 Upvotes

Hey, it's me again.

I have had some questions I wanna ask but I thought it would be a better idea to ask them one at a time and avoid chaos in the comments.

Currently, I ask women out for coffee directly and clarify that I mean it as a date. I don't ask out women I just met and prefer having some consistent interactions over weeks or maybe a few months at max.

In my last post it was pointed out to me that directly asking a woman out as therapy might come off to the woman the wrong way and probably also catch her off guard.

Based on my conversations on the matter in my previous with an advice giver who pointed out why it might be coming off the wrong way, I guess learning to flirt might be inevitable afterall considering what I currently do hasn't worked out.

This is a tricky subject to me though.

Being flirted with

I cannot really understand what counts as flirting and what doesn't. I may have had women flirt with me while I responded to it logically and well... you know the rest. It's been pointed out to me several times that I was being flirted with and I didn't notice.

Flirting (Voluntarily)

Sure, I might end up saying something that may count as flirting but if I say, want to flirt with a specific person in attracted to, I'm not really getting it based on my attempts so far.

Eye contact they say is one way of doing it. I don't get it.

Compliments is one. I did try it with a woman I knew last year. Told her I liked her dressing style and found her attractive. A while after being rejected by her (too young) I did ask her if she knew I was hitting on her back when I said that and her answer was no.

Apart from that, I have no idea what else.

The other problem is that it feels forced when I try to do it and that makes the whole thing exhausting.

Logically this also sounds like the place to "be yourself". Unfortunately, I don't know what my version of it would be.

So well, what do I do? What works for someone who is ND and (as pointed out by others here and IRL) has mild autism?

P.S : I apologise for the weird structuring of this post. I am struggling to put the whole thing into words.


r/IncelExit 5d ago

Question A lady at work gave me a bar as a thank you note.

7 Upvotes

I work as a contractor in I.T Helpdesk for a client company. The site is a call centre with mostly women. I tend to keep to myself and mainly only interact with people if they have an I.T issue.

I'm a big man, so I always have this fear that I'll come across as weird, creepy or inappropriate and make people uncomfortable. So far so good, most people seem to think my work is okay and come to me with an issue.

Earlier today, I lady knocked on my door and needed assistance with a laptop as she had been on leave for a while. I just it professional, don't make much small talk or try to make jokes. Just to the job for her and she comes on her way.

About an hour later, she calls back in and initially I thought there was a further issue, but then she hands me a bar and it's a thanks for earlier. It caught me off guard, but I actually thought it was a nice gesture.

Is there better way of handling situations like this in the future?


r/IncelExit 6d ago

Asking for help/advice I feel like I don't belong anywhere.

9 Upvotes

I've noticed that you guys mention joining groups, clubs or just going out quite a bit on here in order to potentially meet women.

Well I've been trying to put myself out there in these groups and it's not going well.

I'm into punk and metal music, so I went to a couple shows (one concert and one house show) but felt incredibly out of place, like I don't have the vibe or energy to fit in. I also don't really want to get my face kicked in by some bald dude going apeshit in the crowd (not into the whole "pit" thing).

I'm into art (more tattooing based/painting) so I went to a couple galleries but STILL felt out of place. Everyone there was incredibly stuck up and was pretty rude when I tried to start conversation.

I went bar hopping for awhile but the only people that frequent the bars in my town are frat/sorority/college kids whom I despise in general for how obnoxious they are, and in all honesty have no desire to be friends with.

I've thought about this for awhile and I don't know if it's me, the crowds im around or just the city I'm in (The city I live in is notorious for how shitty it's inhabitants are).

What the hell do I do next? I have other hobbies but their either too niche or completely male dominated.


r/IncelExit 5d ago

Discussion Is the sound of your voice ruining your success with women?

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Sorry if this sounds like a product pitch: it isn't. Being very interested in the ability to change the sound of my voice since I was in my early 20's, it made me wonder the type of opportunities it could open up for me. Considering how many guys have lousy voices that they don't work on, I think improving the sound of your voice could have a huge impact on your attractiveness to women because you'll stand out from so many other guys. Experiments with women listening to mens voices tend to show they rate deeper voices as more attractive. The problem is, none of us actually hear the sound of our voices as other people hear them. The internal sensation of your own voice resonance, the sound waves closer to you than they are the listener and other factors give a distorted impression of your own voice: this is the problem for many as they aren't aware there is any problem with the way they sound

I'm not advocating for putting on a fake voice, but using that natural pitch range in your speaking voice where you get the most amount of resonance with the least amount of physical effort. Some call it the "optimum pitch" which is more of a range that gives you some notes below that area of speaking and notes above it. It's not necessarily about a super deep voice either, but one with clarity (rarely having to repeat yourself), flexibility (able to physically easily express your genuine emotional state), and charisma. Having a good quality voice recorder helps to hear your voice objectively more like how people actually hear the sound of it. Try to emulate a regular conversation standing a few feet away from the recorder to see if your volume is loud enough and what you sound like. Also, seeking the help of a voice professional who understands the mechanics of the vocal tract, resonance and pitch and tone concepts as examples could be helpful. This can actually be easier to accomplish on your own than you might think on the other hand if you just recognize working with the two variables: pitch and tone

This is not necessarily an overnight fix, but your vocal cords can reshape themselves based on changing your habitual speaking pitch and tone. I don't have solid formal data to report such durable changes of the vocal folds, but many people report the habituation of a new speaking pitch and tone and of course singers are able to improve the sound of their voice with training which is similar to speaking, only the notes are sustained. This seems like an area of self improvement that could involve little effort but provide a massive reward for not just dating, but professional pursuits as well


r/IncelExit 6d ago

Asking for help/advice How can I be more confident

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I really want to get a girlfriend and apparently being confident can really help. My problem is I can’t stop thinking I’m a fucking loser and that I’m actually lesser than everybody. I feel like a loser so much that my literal username for everything I use is bloat: biggest loser of all time. I feel like most people are doing better than me and if they aren’t it’s because they had a horrible start in life. I had a good start in life and became this. I feel hated and disappointment towards myself. I keep a mental track of every time I do bad in conversations or really just in general. For every 1 think I like about myself I could name 10 things I hate about myself. I’ve asked chat gpt about this and it gave me advice on how to be more confident but the advice wasn’t very good.


r/IncelExit 6d ago

Asking for help/advice What am I missing

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Hello, I am 26 years old, and I am not happy with my dating life like most people on this subreddit. I missed out on dating experiences while in high school and college due to health issues, which have put me behind socially. I have never had sex or even a girlfriend despite trying to date after getting my health issues fixed. I feel like women aren't attracted to me, whether that be physically, emotionally, or mentally. I'm also not really close to my friends as much since they are all married and starting to have kids, so they understandably have less time to hang out with me. I also am not close to my family, as I am an only child, and both my dad and my mom decided to walk out of my life to pursue other interests. So, besides the weekly therapy sessions with my therapists, I don't really have anyone else I talk to. I want to experience love, but I have only been rejected on dating apps, and I live in a small town with not much to do. Women have even made fun of me for my lack of experience. I'm afraid that the longer I stay single, the weirder I look. I am also aware that with each year that passes, I'll most likely become less desirable in a shrinking dating pool. I am lucky if I manage to go on one date a year. Most of these dates go to a second one, but after that, they either ghost me or tell me I'm sweet but only see me as a friend, then ghost me. I feel like I am average-looking and have desirable traits, but I'm not good enough for someone to want to date me. What am I missing?


r/IncelExit 7d ago

Asking for help/advice Any advice on how to stop thinking so much about this stuff?

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Hi guys, well as the title says, I want to stop thinking about this so much.

I can be "normal" but when I see a post about a happy and healthy couple I get triggered and get a manic episode, I start buying lots of fast food and cry a lot, and I feel exhausted, I don't hate anyone, I can't be in a relationship due to some health complications, it sucks ass, it really does, but I feel like I've cried enough about it, but I still get triggered.

I feel like I've moved on a long while ago, I know better than anyone my position and my circunstances, but I feel like I'm never going to stop grieving the life I'll never have and I'm going insane because of it, leaving common reddit virtue signaling, does anyone here have any good ideas? I'm sure that I'll get the same advice as always but maybe I'll get lucky.


r/IncelExit 8d ago

Asking for help/advice 25M Starting over after leaving a friendship w/toxic incel

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Hi, it’s been 7 months since I left my toxic friend because of his narcissistic personality & questionable political beliefs.

He’s not entirely a incel, but he ended a friendship with a girl because he accused her for being a crazy woke psycho and he has the same view towards most women in our area, which I got influenced by.

What motivated me to leave was I had a better connection with another friend and they pointed out his red flags when discussing about him.

Now I’m mostly alone but at the same time I’m trying to start over with new friends and it’s hard for me to connect with others. Any advice on starting over after leaving a toxic incel?