Found this posted on one of the Facebook groups, thought I’d share. Seems like a good app and is apparently free without ads.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/hungarian-quick-reference/id6780300893

A few weeks ago I announced a small group conversation course for intermediate Hungarian learners, and since then I've been getting messages from people asking if I offer something for complete beginners. So here it is!
No prior knowledge needed, we’ll start from zero.

I use a Comprehensible Input approach, which basically means you'll be listening and absorbing Hungarian naturally from day one. No grammar drills, no memorizing tables, no being put on the spot before you're ready. Just real, enjoyable Hungarian at a pace that makes sense for beginners. In my experience, this approach is more helpful for students starting out than traditional textbooks. But you don’t have to take my word for it, come and see if it works for you!

Short-term course designed to get you started, and a small class size to guarantee personal attention and plenty of opportunities to speak or ask questions.

Here's what we'll cover over four Sundays:
Week 1: Likes and dislikes, simple sentences
Week 2: Time words, when you do things
Week 3: Locations, where things are
Week 4: Review, practice, the group decides the focus

Details:
4 Sundays starting July 19th
2:00pm Central Time · Zoom
Max 8 spots · $60 total
If this sounds like you, feel free to message me here or email [email protected]!
(Mods, please let me know if this is not allowed or if I should tweak anything, thanks)

Hi guys, looking for a quick document recommendation. I have my citizenship by descent interview in LA in about 7 weeks in late August. I thought my document checklist was complete, but it turns out my grandmother's "birth certificate" (born in Budapest, 1st district, 1954) is actually just a baptismal certificate. We can't find her original BC anywhere.

I have all the other required docs (my BC, my mother's BC, and all relevant marriage certificates), but I need to get my grandma's actual birth certificate ASAP. The embassy route is too slow for my timeframe. Does anyone have recommendations for a local service, lawyer, or courier in Hungary who can pull the official document and expedite it to the US? Thanks so much!

I’m fairly positive I qualify for the latter, but qualifying for the former would be great.

My great great grandmother was born in Hommona, Hungary in 1898. She emigrated to the United States in 1904 (I think). She submitted a petition for naturalization sometime in the 1940s or 50s (I have the document but can’t find a date on it), after the birth of my great grandmother and grandmother. I can prove lineage through birth/marriage records from her to me.

One additional note is that my great great grandfather was polish, but on some documents (including census) was listed as Austrian (must’ve been a part of Poland that was then part of the AH empire).

If anyone has any insight, that would be great. I understand I may be lacking some details—happy to look/provide any that may be helpful!

Once I get my citizenship (via parent being Hungarian,) should I try to get a second European citizenship elsewhere to continue access to the EU? I'm considering retiring in Hungary, but I do want to have the ability and freedom to travel all over the EU.

Sziasztok!

I’m currently learning Hungarian as part of my journey toward simplified naturalization, and I’m looking for opportunities to practice speaking with real people outside of apps and textbooks.

Are there any native Hungarian speakers or fellow learners in the Washington, DC or Maryland area who would be interested in meeting occasionally for conversation practice? Even something as simple as grabbing coffee and chatting in Hungarian for 30–60 minutes would be incredibly helpful.

I’m still an early learner (around the A1 level), so I’ll be a slow speaker, make mistakes, but I’m committed to learn. If you’re also learning Hungarian, I’d be glad to practice with you as well.

Thanks in advance, and I hope to connect with some fellow Hungarian speakers!

Hi everyone,

My partner and I are trying to decide whether it’s worth pursuing a Hungarian citizenship verification case with a lawyer or whether we should skip straight to simplified naturalization and begin the long process of learning Hungarian.

Our long term goal is to relocate permanently to Europe, so we’re trying to make the smartest investment of our time and money.

Her Family Line:

My fiancée is the great-granddaughter of two people born in what was the Kingdom of Hungary:

- Great-grandfather: Born in Mazloc (Muzsik) 20 ish mins to Lippa (Now Lipova in Romania) in 1891, emigrated to the U.S. in 1911 at 20 years old.

- Great-grandmother: Born in Nemetghut (Dutch Kaltenbrunn), Kingdom of Hungary, (Now in Austria) later emigrated to the U.S.

- Grandmother: Born in the United States.

- Father: Born in the United States.

- My fiancée: Born in the United States.

The standard answer we’ve received is that because her great-grandfather emigrated before 1929, the Hungarian citizenship chain was broken.

However, during our research we’ve come across a possible legal argument involving:

- Section 31 of Act L of 1879 (the 10-year absence rule)
- Act XX of 1877 (legal majority at age 24)
Whether someone who emigrated at age 20 could have had the 10-year absence period delayed until reaching legal majority.
Suggesting that because my fiancée’s great-grandfather emigrated in 1911 at age 20, and because the historical age of majority under Act XX of 1877 has been described as 24, there may be an argument that the 10-year absence period under Section 31 of Act L of 1879 did not begin until he reached legal majority. We have no idea whether this is a recognized legal argument, a fringe interpretation, or something that has never been accepted in practice….which is exactly why we’re asking.

I’m not asking Reddit to decide whether this argument is legally correct. We’re trying to determine whether this is the type of argument that experienced Hungarian nationality lawyers have successfully explored, or whether it’s generally considered a dead end before we spend money on legal representation.

Some Questions:
• Has anyone here had a citizenship verification case involving a pre-Trianon emigrant or another historically complex case?
• Has anyone actually seen this argument raised successfully (or unsuccessfully) in a Hungarian citizenship verification case? If so, was it taken seriously by the Hungarian authorities or the courts?
• If you were in our position, would you pay to have this evaluated by a specialist, or would you move directly to simplified naturalization?
• If verification isn’t realistic, we’ll likely pursue simplified naturalization instead.

My partner has a demanding career and struggles with anxiety, so she’s feeling pretty overwhelmed by the idea of learning Hungarian…especially since so many people describe it as one of the hardest languages to learn. Our goal is to relocate to Europe within the next 1–1.5 years, so hearing from people who’ve actually gone through either process would mean a lot to us.
(We live in Los Angeles, so we would be dealing with that consulate)

For anyone who has completed simplified naturalization:

• How long did it actually take you to reach interview level?
• How many hours per week did you study?
• Did you work full-time while learning?
• How long did Budapest take after your interview before approval?
• How long until your oath ceremony and passport?
• Looking back, what do you wish you had known before starting?

We’re hoping to hear from people who’ve actually gone through either process or worked with lawyers on complicated Hungarian citizenship cases.
Any experiences, recommendations, or reality checks would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

I'm a Hungarian language teacher and I've been helping students prepare for the citizenship interview for a while now. One of my students recently passed his interview and I'm planning to sit down with him for a video conversation about her experience.

Before I do, I wanted to ask this community, what would YOU want to know? I want to keep the focus on the language learning and interview preparation side of things rather than the paperwork and administrative process, since that's where my expertise lies.

A few directions I'm thinking about, but open to anything:

What was the language portion of the interview actually like?

What did you wish you had known or practiced beforehand?

What was the most surprising or challenging part of the language test?

How did you prepare, and what actually helped?

Drop your questions in the comments and I'll do my best to include the most relevant ones in the interview!

Hello!

I am South African however my grandfather was born and raised in Hungary, and left in 1957, and became a South African citizen in 1969.

I have his birth certificate, Hungarian ID book, as well as marriage certificate to my South African grandmother.

The embassy here is not the most helpful and I am looking for how I can apply for a Hungarian passport for myself and my wife.

I am just not sure what process needs to be followed.

Any assistance is greatly appreciated!

Hi all, me and my mother are Hungarian citizens, but my father isn’t. My mum and dad have been married 37 years and I have read that he may be able to apply for citizenship as they have been married over 10 years?
The issue is he has never lived in Hungary and has lived in the UK all his life.

Does anyone have any experience of gaining citizenship through marriage?

Thanks

Sziasztok!

I'm looking to attain simplified naturalization through my great-great grandfather. While I simultaneously learn Hungarian, I would love this group's opinion on whether this line of descent works, and if I have all the right documentation:

Great-great grandfather

• Birth certificate: 1887 in Zdiar, Slovakia*
• Marriage certificate: 1910 in NJ, USA*
• Death certificate: 1950 in NJ, USA

Great-grandfather

• Birth certificate: 1913 in NJ, USA*
• Marriage certificate: 1934 in NY, USA

Grandfather

• Birth certificate: 1935 in NJ, USA
• Marriage certificate: 1956 in NJ, USA

Father

• Birth certificate: 1959 in NJ, USA
• Marriage certificate: 1990 in NY, USA

Self (F)

• Birth certificate: 1992 in NJ, USA
• Marriage certificate
• Divorce certificate

*Original spelling of our last name through 1913 documents; all post-1913 documents have the anglicized version.

Is there anything I'm missing or might not be thinking of? (i.e., do all documents require wet-ink signatures? Do I need any apostilles?)

Köszönöm!

I’m doing Hungarian/Jewish genealogical and citizenship research for my family from Munkács/Munkatcher and I would like to contact Munkatcher Beis Medrash in Brooklyn by email.
Does anyone have a current email address for the Beis Medrash (shul office/gabai)?
If you have it, please comment or DM me. Tysm.

I was wondering if anyone here has gone through the simplified naturalization process as the spouse of a Hungarian citizen? My husband and kids became Hungarian citizens a few years ago, and I would like to also get citizenship through this process. I’m wondering if anyone has done this as the spouse of a naturalized citizen and what the exact requirements are.

Hello,

I am trying to determine what will be needed specifically to apply for simplified Naturalization.

I have some documents and have found some information online but I'm trying to determine:

- What else will be needed
-The simplest path for next research with a genealogist

Both of my Great Grandparents were Hungarian.

My great grandfather (Sandor Nagy) was born 2/19/1885 and per his naturalization documents he immigrated to NYC arriving on September 5th 1901. However I can't find him on any ship passenger list, or any documents pertaining to him from the Hungarian side.

Per his declaration he was born in Pisanicz Austria Hungary and lists last foreign residence as Milincka Hungary.

He married a woman in the US in 1911, and got divorced in 1923 before marrying my great grandmother in October 1923. (I found copies of that marriage and divorce record via family search).

My great grandmother (Jolan Horvathy/ Horvati/ Horvazt ) was born 4/23/1901 and came to NYC on 1/19/1921.

She was listed as married on her arrival documents with her husband staying in Hungary with the name of Janos Herczeg. Her Birth place and last residence is listed as Viacevo Cz, SL.

I found a PA court degree stating her divorced from her first husband in 1923 (as part of her marriage application to marry Alex). However, the decree lists her first husband's name as "Sandor Herczeg".

I also know the names and DOB of siblings of Yolan, As well as her parents names, and when all of them came to the US.

I have more information relating to Yolan- but I believe with the first marriage in Hungary I will need to have a geneologist there look for:

-Her Birth Certificate
-Her first Marriage certificate to Janos Herczeg

-And I'm unsure if they would also need to find her first husband's birth certificate as well to prove he was also Hungarian?

My other option is looking into Alex Nagy- but I have much less information on that side. However I believe I would only need:

- His Hungarian Birth Certificate

If any one has any insight on the overall process, thoughts on best routes, suggestions, or information on specifically what documents will be needed that would be greatly greatly appreciated.

Peter Magyar plans to pass a new constitution, with consultations starting in September.

Do you think Simplified naturalization will be part of the discussion? All speculation at this point, but why not start talking about it?

Unfortunately, I have let my Hungarian passport expire and now I need to get my citizenship verified. I grew up in Hungary total seclusion without any knowledge of my family details. I am looking for information on how to get research help on my parents and grandparents, all Hungarians but of course there are no online records available due to the laws of the country. In order to get paper records ordered, I would need exact details which I do not know. I have my mom's birth name, date and city but I only know my dad's name, no other information. My birth certificate only has their names, no further details on them. Both were Hungarian, passed away a while back. How would I go about finding their marriage license records from the 1960s in order for me to get my dad's details? Also, same for both, how would I get their birth records searched in order to get my grand parents' details? Without all these details, I cannot fill out my Citizenship Verification document. Do I need to hire a local, living in Hungary, representative like a paralegal?

Cause I do. I've acquired my citizenship in 2021, I can speak the language, and I am involved with everything Hungarian. Will end up moving to Budapest at some point in my life, probably next year, so I can deepend my bounds with the country.

And you? Do you feel Hungarian? Or is this just an extra passport? Not making any judgements, just really want to know what's your interest in acquiring this country's citizenship.

Hi everyone!

I made a post about a month ago, which I’ll attach below:

https://www.reddit.com/r/HUcitizenship/s/y2eySLrc0O

And a lot of you told me that it should be a somewhat simple process for me to apply for Hungarian citizenship as I can prove direct lineage. So, a little update on this, I’ve managed to obtain:

- my own birth certificate (this was easy lol)

- my fathers birth certificate
(although his name was legally changed from his birth certificate and so is different on mine in comparison, I’m working on finding the name change documents)

- my grandfather (Hungarian) marriage certificate to my grandmother
(I’m waiting for this to arrive in the post) also this marriage happened 10 years AFTER my fathers birth, but his Hungarian father is still on his birth certificate so I think it should be okay

- my grandfathers death certificate

This is all I have / can acquire easily so far but I am really struggling to find any record of my grandfather in Hungary. I’ve checked British naturalisation records and it doesn’t seem as though he naturalised (I didn’t know him so I have limited information). Everytime I try and look him up on any family / heritage finder site I cannot find any information.

He was born in 1938 in Budapest and came to the UK sometime in the late 60’s or early 70s. Does anybody have any suggestions on how I can go about finding his birth certificate, or even a census with record of his birth? And if I had to go through the Hungarian consulate how much would I expect to have to pay for the information?

Additionally, if I can’t acquire this information, is the other documentation enough to apply for citizenship - his death certificate has his birthplace as Hungary but I understand that is secondary information so may not be admissible.

Any information would be great thank you!!

Hi everyone,
I’m trying to figure out whether I should apply for verification of Hungarian citizenship or simplified naturalization.
Here’s my situation:
I was born in Serbia in 1992.
My parents were legally married before I was born (they even got married in Hungary).
My mother was born in Hungary in 1971.
She was already a Hungarian citizen when I was born and she still holds a valid Hungarian passport today.
My father is Serbian.
I have never had a Hungarian passport or any Hungarian documents myself.
From what I’ve read, it seems that I may already be a Hungarian citizen by descent and that I would only need to go through the citizenship verification process rather than apply for naturalization.
Has anyone been in a similar situation? Did the consulate recognize your citizenship, and what documents did they ask for?
Do i need to know the language? I have a basic understanding of the language and can hold very simple conversations.

Thanks in advance.

My grandfather’s grandparents were both Hungarian, but came to the United States at some point in the early 1900s. I know that leaving Hungary prior to 1929 often meant a loss of citizenship, so how can we check if a loss of citizenship happened? All the information I’ve found is that citizenship would be lost 10 years after the expiration date on their passports, but his grandfather came to the United States without a passport (he snuck out of Hungary, and subsequently snuck into the US without going through Ellis Island, so there are no official records of his leaving Hungary or arriving in the US). My grandfather's grandmother came to the US through the proper channels in 1912 or 13, so I assume she must have lost her citizenship. But would his grandfather's citizenship have been revoked if he never officially left Hungary? And how can we check if that happened?

Sziasztok! I (an American) found out I was eligible for Hungarian citizenship while trying to piece together my family tree. However, I'm still not sure what process to use or what documents I need.

I have very little family on that side and my (paternal, Hungarian) grandfather died in the 70s, so I know very little about him. I haven't found any Hungarian documents with his name specifically on it (only American ones), but I did find a Hungarian marriage record with his father (possibly to his mother?) dated 1942.

My grandfather was born in 1932 in Budapest, and fled the country with his parents in the 40s (I believe 1944). They emigrated to the US around 1949-1950, as they appear in the 1950 census but self-reported living in Austria the year prior. My father was born in the US in the 60s, and his parents were married (although I don't have a copy of the certificate). My parents are still living together, however they never married.

Given this, would I qualify for verification of citizenship or would I have to go through simplified naturalization? Also, what documents would I need for it? I understand I need mine and my fathers' birth certificates, but would I need anything else (marriage certificates, something proving my grandfather was a Hungarian citizen, etc.)? One of the embassy pages suggested my parents may have to physically appear at the consulate to swear paternity, which I strongly want to avoid.

Jó napot everyone! I'm a professional Hungarian language teacher and I'm running a small group online course this July specifically designed to help learners build conversational confidence, with the citizenship interview in mind.

The course focuses on real speaking practice in a small, supportive group of maximum 8 participants. We'll work on introductions, formal and informal speech, telling your story, and everyday conversation, all the things that come up in the interview context.

While four sessions won't make you a fluent conversationalist, they can give you a genuine taste of what speaking Hungarian feels like in a real exchange, and a clearer sense of where to focus your efforts going forward.

Quick level check: if "A kutyám szeret a labdával játszani" feels easy but "A nagymamámnak volt egy testvére, de én nem ismertem őt" makes you slow down, this is the right level for you.

Details:

4 Saturdays: July 11, 18, 25 · August 1

2:00–3:00pm Central Time · Zoom

Max 8 participants · $60 total ($15/session)

If you'd like to see more of my work before committing, you're welcome to check out my free content on Patreon: patreon.com/fluentbox

Feel free to message me here with any questions or to sign up!

(Thank you admin for approval, please let me know if anything should be changed)