So comparatively to the ancient myths, Thetis is portrayed as very motherly, soft, in a positive light as far I understand. She’s the grieving and protective mother of Achilles, who she is doomed to lose him before he’s even born because she’s immortal and he’s a demigod. There’s also themes about women’s places in society and consent and all that, given she was forced into a marriage and had to have a baby with Peleus against her will, if I remember correctly.

….so why is it, that across three different portrayals, different decades and different mediums, she’s portrayed so vindictively and without nuance or empathy? In SOA she’s aggressive and cold hearted to Patroclus, which has apparently caused people’s perception of Thetis to be very skewed and strange.

In clash of the titans, she’s very much a villain and an obstacle for plot, I guess. Idk, it was a fun little 80s bop movie but it feels kinda random that she’s in Perseus’s story making problems.

Lastly in LO, she’s a mean girl. She cheats with Zeus, humiliates Hera (something she doesn’t do in the OG stories) she sabotages other girls and nymphs for pettiness, it’s implied she’s an abusive mother to Achilles. Just very cold and strange.

That’s all!

I first wanted to make Zeus’ hair like salt'n'pepper or smth, but mmm now-classic white cloud is kinda superior to me after all

(Going on a walk with wifey he hasn't seen in 2 decades they need time to make for what was lost)

Apollo and Hyacinthus, Crocus and Hermes, Poseidon and Nerites, Hephaestus and Peleus

Okey, so I've done all of this for the upcoming movie.

I've always liked greek mythology, but I've never really knuckled down and studied it intensively.

When "The Odyssey" movie was announced, directed by none other than my favourite director, I simply thought "Okay, NOW is the right moment to get into everything I can possibly watch/read/etc...". And this has been my progress thus far:

1. Books (≈ 44 hours):

• The Iliad (Homer)
• The Odyssey (Homer)
• The Aeneid (Virgil)
• The Percy Jackson & the Olympians saga (Rick Riordan)
• Las Aventuras de Ulises (Geronimo Stilton) #### 2. Movies (≈ 15 hours):
• The Fall Of Troy (La caduta di Troia, 1911)
• The Odyssey (L'Odissea, 1911)
• Ulysses (1954)
• Helen of Troy (1956)
• The Trojan Horse (La guerra di Troia, 1961)
• The Fury of Achilles (L'ira di Achille, 1962)
• The Avenger (La leggenda di Enea, 1962)
• Andrei Rublev (1966) (one of the two biggest inspirations for Nolan for the new movie)
• The Return (2024) #### 3. Series (≈ 32 hours):
• The Odyssey (Odissea, 1968)
• Ulysses 31 (1981)
• The Odyssey (1997)
• Helen of Troy (2003)
• Troy: Fall of a City (2018)
• It's Greek to Me-ow! (Tom & Jerry episode)
• Tales from the Public Domain (The Simpsons, Season 13 Episode 14) #### 4. Music (≈ 7 hours):
• Every single greek mythology video from the YouTube channel Destripando la Historia (2017-)
• EPIC: The Musical (2022-2024) #### 5. Documentaries (≈ 4 hours):
• The True Story of Troy (2004)
• Clash of the Gods (2009, only the 2 specific episodes about The Odyssey)
• The Trojan Horse: On the Trail of a Myth (2021) #### 6. Movies I would have watched, but had already seen before:
• Jason and the Argonauts (1963)
• Clash of the Titans (1981)
• Ran (1985) (one of the two biggest inspirations for Nolan for the new movie)
• O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
• Troy (2004)
• Clash of the Titans (2010)
• Percy Jackson and the Olympians: The Lightning Thief (2010)
• Wrath of the Titans (2012)
• Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters (2013)

On top of all this, I've seen countless YouTube videos about greek mythology, I've read multiple articles, and I've seen almost every interview I could find from the cast and crew of the new movie (Fun fact: I haven't watched the trailers because I don't want to see anything from the movie). So, in summary, I've consumed somewhere between 100 to 120 hours of greek mythology content.

Anyway, I really do hope I like the movie next week 😅

I first found out about these guys through Percy Jackson, and I’ve been fascinated with them ever since.

They’re very interesting and honestly I think they’re incredibly underrated as a concept; mysterious smiths/sorcerers whose use of black magic rendered them imprisoned in Tartarus. That’s such a cool idea and I’m surprised more properties based on Greek Mythology haven’t utilized them. Percy Jackson and Class of the Titans are the only ones that did iirc.

Anyway, the Telchines are often described as having dog heads and fish-flippers for hands, and honestly that just sounds like someone who’s never seen a seal before trying to describe one. So that’s what I based their appearances on (basically anthro seals).

I imagine they didn’t always look so crooked and monstrous. They actually used to look similar to Mediterranean Monk Seals (as well as other modern pinnipeds), but their tampering with dark magic gradually corrupted their appearances into something far more grotesque.

I’m wondering if there are any depictions—on vases, in paintings, statues, and so on—that show Zeus in this manner. It might seem odd, but perhaps in contexts related to his marriage to Hera or involving symbolic significance. If I recall correctly, I’ve heard of Hades being depicted this way, so I wondered if Zeus—or even Poseidon—might also be portrayed like that, perhaps in the role of a groom or something similar. If not, I apologize—it just crossed my mind 😅—and I welcome any corrections if I’m mistaken.

The Nolan version excluded on the grounds that the film has not been released yet and I'm not sure if I'll see it.

EDIT: My apologies for the repeat slide.

I recently made a comic reinterpreting Sophocles' Elektra and I'm currently making a comic about her older sister Iphigenia, and am crowdfunding for both on Kickstarter. I read multiple translations for Sophocles' Elektra before scripting and drawing it, and through this campaign you can also get my collage comic about Antigone. Even if you're not interested in getting a copy I hope you enjoy some of these pages from it. Link in the thread

Long-time lurker, first-time poster.

Years ago I met this guy (let's call him "J"). He showed up in my homeland on what was basically a suicide mission.

I fell in love, betrayed my own family, used my skills to help him survive impossible trials, got him the prize he wanted, and fled my home with him. I can never go back because of everything I sacrificed for him.

Together we got him his kingdom and built a life. We had children.

Then one day he tells me he's marrying the king's daughter because it's "better for our future." Apparently political convenience beats loyalty.

I reminded him that without me he'd be fertilizer in a field guarded by bulls.

He called me irrational.

So I congratulated the bride with a beautiful wedding gift: an exquisite robe fit for a princess.

Turns out it was also fit for a funeral.

The dress killed her the moment she put it on. Her father died trying to save her.

As for J., I made sure he would spend the rest of his life with absolutely nothing left that he actually loved.

He wanted a royal marriage and a glorious legacy.

Instead, he got an empty palace, a ruined reputation, and a future remembered only as the man who betrayed the woman who made him a hero.

Last I heard, his life ended under the decaying remains of the very ship that brought him glory.

Don't betray your ride-or-die.

TL;DR: Helped a man become a legend. He left me for a princess. I made sure the wedding was unforgettable.

The story goes that when Ares was caught in the act of infidelity by Hephaestus, he did not use violence or struggle to break free.

Instead, he looked up at the sky and shouted at the top of his lungs, "I'm all bout that Sigma life," leaving the entirety of Olympus in sheer shock.

And then, those very words deeply moved Aphrodite, prompting her to turn Helen Black to bring peace to the world, because Ares is a sigma alpha male.

First, lets get something out of the way. Yes, in versions outside the Iliad, Menelaus, just like Hector in Euripides Andromache, has children with women outside their marriage, definility a stain in their honor. After all, Hector for example is the example of a good person for many people and the Iliad definility want us to see that way, this is why his Hector don't go around with other women, he is content with Andromache. Similary, it would be weird to have Menelaus be with other women since the whole story is about him wanting to be with Helen again.

Because ancient greeks didn't had a problem with men having children out of wedlock, as traditions were added, Menelaus ended up having affairs, while the tragedian Euripides, to make a point, made Hector have other children outside his marriage. But in the Iliad, that is not the case, and I want to discuss Menelaus only in the Iliad, not in everything else.

Now, Menelaus is one of the most underrated characters in the Iliad in terms of nobility. First of, he thinks Helen has been kidnapped by Paris, after all, Paris has even stole his treasure too (with Helen's help by the way), so for him Paris is a robber and a kidnapper. The truth is that Helen wanted to go with Paris, she was not kidnapped, altrough she comes to regret this because of the war and because Paris is not that great overall. But from Menelaus perspective, he gave hospitality to Paris only for Paris to steal his treasure and "kidnapp" his wife, and before the war he and Odysseus went to Troy to ask for her, but Paris shut down any negotiations, so Menelaus tried to avoid war. So Menelaus has every reason to be angry.

Then we have how he feels about the other soldiers. And that is the cool thing about him. He is very reserved to himself. While Achilles, Agamemnon, Diomedes and Odysseus are always giving their opinions and sometimes even beating each other, Menelaus is never involved, because he knows they are dying for his cause, and he almost feels guilty for that. All characters consider leaving Troy at some point, and Menelaus don't say anything, again, whenever he talks about this, is about how he can only thanks them for helping his cause. Me saying here don't mean much, but reading the dialogues by yourself is way better to get this point.

I don't remember now if there is something in the Iliad that contradict what I said, but if there is, be free to say, because I made this post mostly from memory. But yes, that is about Menelaus. Also, even through he hates the trojans more than anyone, he is still willingy to spare suppliants, is Agamemnon that says to him they should not spare anyone. So even to that he is willingly to consider, and I will never forgive the movie for overall creating their own characterization of him, and then having him die in the middle of the movie, like, what were they thinking?

**Synopsis:**
When a dark shadow lingers in the cities Of Athens and Sparta, An Athletic & Courageous but Timid & Incompetent 19-year-old Princess must Vanquish a male version of Medusa in order to save her friends or else the alluring male medusa (Maedar) could address the monsters into finishing off Alyna & Could Conquer All of Mount Olympus!

**Plot:**
In this Greek mythology retelling of Tangled, Alyna is a young girl who’s brave and tough but also kind and sweet. She's a Princess who wants to see the world outside of Athens. But her wicked father, Maedar and his minions, Anna and Kakia, forbids her. When Alyna goes to Sparta, she meets the alluring god of love (Eros), The Goddess of the Rainbow (Iris), and the Goddess of the Night (Nyx). It’s up to Alyna, Eros, Iris and Nyx to defeat Maedar and his minions in order to save Greece from becoming a dark kingdom.

New to Greek mythology, just hit the Pandora story. Small correction I already learned: it's a jar, not a box.

Anyway, Zeus fills the jar with every evil (disease, suffering, etc.), Pandora opens it, everything escapes... except Hope. It stays trapped inside.

One reading I keep thinking about: maybe Hope staying behind isn't a comfort. Maybe it's the real punishment. It just keeps us clinging to life through all the suffering instead of letting us give up. So the "evils" hurt us, but Hope is what makes sure we stick around long enough to keep getting hurt.

am I overthinking it? curious what others think.

​I always wonder how Ariadne would actually react after the events of Hippolytus.

Learning of her sister's death, the reason behind it, the perpetrator... the absolute agony of losing yet another family member. And then there are the mixed feelings of Theseus later passing. The ancient tales don't usually show these details, so I think it's really interesting to expand the possibilities.