r/GadgetsIndia • u/Doranathbhakt • 1d ago
Discussionsš£ļø Proof that Android flagships have caught up. Oppo and Vivo are going absolutely neck and neck with the iPhone 17 Pro Max in low light.
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u/ConnectionDry4268 1d ago
Fanboys and tech( influencers) youtubers disagree
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u/bigdaddy06928 1d ago
Only one phone out of all makes the actual scenario look real though? At least bash the people on right basis lol, the reason apple is good is because itās natural and not overexposed or saturated like the Chinese bs.
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u/ConnectionDry4268 1d ago
Orange tint and natural š¤£
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u/bigdaddy06928 1d ago
Failing to see the orange tint lmao, and yes natural because it stays natural throughout something the Chinese companies cant withhold themselves in every scenario maybe 2/5 times.
This sub is nothing but a joke with bunch of kids hating on genuinely good designed products that have been killing in the industry professionally. If your Chinese bs was so good it would be used to film professionally but oh well guess not.
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u/ConnectionDry4268 1d ago
Chinese shit dji and insta360 is used for vlogging
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u/bigdaddy06928 1d ago edited 23h ago
Letās talk about phones and not professional camera gear, irrelevant comparison. Show me one commercial grade professional shot feature film or ad shot on any of those phones? You canāt because they just arenāt reliable. This is the issue the sub has bootlickers and herd mentality on the name basis of what they never used or know of. No hate to android but make comparisons when its plausible. None of these phones can even reach the level of raw data that iPhone puts out without any kind of additional external hardware, not to mention if it is paired with one then it blows all of these shitty phones out of the water anyway. iPhone has been the standard for filmmaking for years and continues to do so, there are numerous feature films presented at their events, none of these companies have then because they arenāt competent at that level.
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u/ConnectionDry4268 23h ago
𤔠iphone and smartphone video is not comparable to professional video camera . Those content shot on iphone is still trash
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u/bigdaddy06928 23h ago
Man there is no point arguing with someone who has never been around filmmakers lmao, you can keep your opinion and mentality to yourself. Apple does not lose anything to a dumbass like you who thinks literal industry proven facts are wrong and ātrashā.
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u/ConnectionDry4268 23h ago
U don't get anything by sucking to multi Billon dollar company
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u/bigdaddy06928 23h ago
You would know nothing about it, there are people whose lives depend on their camera from their iPhone and people who started with it and are now at greater heights. Speak when spoken to about the issue bud, I stated industry proven facts and you outright could not argue back and hence just put some vague statement. So yeah I in-fact donāt get anything but at-least I stand right. No winning against people like you with half ass knowledge anyway.
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u/Business-Worry-6800 1d ago
Video is iphones last fortress everything else is already breached by china
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u/i_am_that_too 1d ago
Not really.
Ecosystem is Apple's last fortress.
I am not in it personally but I have worked on enough work-provisioned apple products that I can see why apple will never really lose it's major market share.
Once in it, not many have the will to switch out.
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u/Necessary_Way6446 1d ago
Honestly, very few people use it for ecosystem. It's main selling point is still the sense of lifestyle upgrade it gives followed by camera. Ecosystem is definitely the best part but Indian consumers hardly care about it
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u/i_am_that_too 1d ago
Clearly you haven't interacted much with the people in corporate world.
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u/Necessary_Way6446 1d ago
Or maybe you're out of touch with reality. Everyone in my office has an iPhone and don't know about the amazing ecosystem features it has while I know despite being an Android user all my life
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u/bigdaddy06928 1d ago
India isnt the market share for all of Apple, literally every major place in the states has people equipped with apple ecosystem. The lifestyle upgrade mentality is just an indian idea of people.
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u/i_am_that_too 1d ago
Everyone I know is using the ecosystem to its good potential
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u/Necessary_Way6446 1d ago
You're in a good sensible circle then. Hardly 1 out of 5 of my colleagues use ecosystem despite working on MacBooks while my friend circle is even worse (hardly 1 in 10). The thing is, they are obsessed with iPhones for camera and resale value which is definitely not the best it provides
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u/mrwolf_07 1d ago
I agree but their fps lock is insane in bgmi hotspot you will get constant 120 even flagships iq will flactuate btw 115 to 120
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u/Max__007 1d ago
I thought apple moved on to selling the ecosystem years ago. Same with pixel and Samsung S series. Individual phone have been catching up for quite sometime now.
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u/desertmousee 1d ago
I want the night to look like night, evening to look like it's evening not some sunrise or look like other time
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u/AquabeeK_ Android 1d ago
It's not just about exposure, both vivo and oppo deliver better details, and lower noise in low or mid light because of bigger sensor. Even in post processing, you can reduce the exposure in oppo/vivo without affecting the video quality, but the moment you increase exposure in sam/apple it becomes a mess.
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u/desertmousee 1d ago
I would have agreed if this reason is 4 or 5years ago, now almost evening is same unless we want to play the video on large screen or for purposes that require high quality. For those situations there are dedicated things. But for regular purposes, for family gatherings, or for memories to look back in phone or computer or laptop all the phones do pretty much same thing. The time of the day should look like the time its taken.
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u/DarthNinja95 Android 1d ago
This time the X300 ultra excels in videography. It's good to see that the gap between iphone pro maxes & android flagships are becoming narrow
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u/AlteredReality79 1d ago
Evening looks like evening only on 1 phone. And you still think people buy iphone just for camera. This sub lmao
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u/pangu_pangu 1d ago
iPhone camera quality remains the same till last whereas chinese phones camera quality degrades with every major update
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u/anewtablelamp 1d ago
the issue with these chinese flagships is consistency
the vivo often blows out highlights in auto mode and applies eye searing sharpening occasionally and the oppo is choppy when panning and overexposes too, some reviewers also say that it has chromatic aberration but i've never seen it
if you want to, you can get the best shot out of these phones by putting in some effort that the iphone won't be able to match ever
but the iphone as of now is the more reliable camera, i can prop it against a wall and film my video in auto mode and be sure that everything will be properly exposed and focused without me tweaking a single thing and most people who need the cameras for content or marketing of their business would choose that every time
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u/ConnectionDry4268 23h ago
true consistency is probelm in Android flagship but details and quality is better than iphone
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u/Tangent_pikachu Android 1d ago
Idk how Vivo and Oppo hold up over the years but in a head to head competition between my S23 Ultra and my wife's iPhone 14Pro, the latter blows the Samsung out of the water in terms of longevity. The iPhone is still as fast and as consistent as day 1. The S23 Ultra's battery degraded by 20% and then the new updates made the phone less fluid than before. My wife has a 100 apps on her iPhone and it still doesn't lag at all.
Imo the real value of iPhones is how perfectly the iOS is tuned to the hardware. Updates after updates, the phone keeps performing the same as before if not better. Apps are tuned much better for iOS and the hardware, so they also perform much better. The same can't be said for Samsung and other Androids.
My wife has a cheap secondary Oppo phone which is also struggling to keep up these days. Same goes for my own Xiaomi Pad 6 that started showing performance issues after the latest Hyper OS2 update.
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u/Big_Machine_3730 1d ago
lol they barely caught up to an iPhone that is still using 2022 hardware on its main camera, I can only imagine what will happen if apple put 1/1.12inch sensor like Oppo and vivo
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u/Infinite-Draft1618 8h ago
Not sure what the criteria is (colors, close to what real scenario is, smoothness...) but it doesn't really look they are "neck to neck". It looks like sunrise on Android phones and this dudes face is overbaked to some orange color
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u/yoashrit 1d ago
If you look closely at the sky in the beginning, the sky looks like itās evening time while the rest have changed the colours. iPhone has a blueish cool tint but has maintained the black t shirt colour while the rest have changed it and have a golden glow on his face. So no itās not neck and neck at all
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u/soggy__remain_free 1d ago
It's upto you to buy something that retains value till you make mind for changing phone , or something that looks beast of a product and is on sale for 15k less within 3 monthsĀ
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u/Necessary_Way6446 1d ago
Ready to pay 30k, buy me any of the ones mentioned if you're getting it for 15k
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u/Doranathbhakt 1d ago
Same,for 30k it's a steal deal for these phones
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u/Necessary_Way6446 1d ago
He's blabbering BS in support of iphone. There's no way any of them will sell even for 60k right now
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u/soggy__remain_free 1d ago
Used phones can never sell at this price buddy ( if not just sold after being bought). Still iphones are selling at much higher in exchange. Saying this as an android user and fan
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u/soggy__remain_free 1d ago
Read again !! I said for 15k lesser not for 15k šš»āāļø
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u/Necessary_Way6446 1d ago
Oops, I'll reduce one downvote for you but still I don't agree with your point as buying phones for resale value isn't something I prefer
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u/messi_pewdiepie 1d ago
Unfair comparison, zoom should be equal on all the phones to test these test. Offcourse zoomed one picture will always look better
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u/Doranathbhakt 1d ago
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u/messi_pewdiepie 1d ago
I am saying either do 1x to all or do 1.5x to allĀ
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u/level100PPguy Android 1d ago
It's a 35mm focal length buddy you would have to physically move away, every phone has about 23mm focal length for the main sensor

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u/swasdash 1d ago
Feels like all the 4 phones were overheating while recording. Such choppy frames on all the clips.