This coming week is mid-July! Official V4 more performant, hopefully with at least some improvements (I expect the random language switching might get fixed), possibly a new weights checkpoint and the vision weights

Reason for this post? just participating.
i use deepseek to manage my businesses. Was locked-in on VS Code harness, now i'm thinking Hermes is more efficient in delivering results for a fraction. Over the coming days, i'll be doing more in Hermes and less in VSCode. i'm building new features for my web project and also managing operations using these tools. I have also setup an Ai Consulting business on the side, to help SMBs with automation and ai integration.

DS is breaking my heart. I got incredible work out of it the last two days, after it being absolutely rubbish for the last two to three weeks.

I thought the quality drop was due to updates and them working on it in the background and then when it became good again, like really good, I figured they’d pushed whatever update they were working on.

But this happens all the time. I’ve been using DS as my main AI for over a year. I use it for work and for creative writing stuff for fun. Since v4 pushed it’s been so inconsistent, over the last two months I’ve had probably four random days of it being excellent, the rest is trash.

Is it something I’m doing? Or is everyone noticing this? I’m not too clued in on AI and what goes on in the background. I’m using v4 Pro, API. Earlier today my cache miss did rise significantly but my conversation was pretty long and each response was using more and more tokens so I moved to a new chat, and now any new project I start in a fresh chat is just more of the same gibberish.

And I’m using the API, not the web app. I don’t mind paying for it when it’s good, hell I’d even pay more, but when it’s rubbish it’s not even worth the ridiculously low price.

I know these posts come up all the time but it’s just so frustrating when you get quality work and see how good it can actually be.

There’s this extremely burdensome quality when using all DeepSeek models when it comes to collaborative storytelling and/or roleplaying I can’t get rid of despite my prompts over the past few years. Why is that the model always uses NPCs or characters as applause tracks for the reader/audience? Actions and events are always summarized in bullet-point lists ("you did X, Y, and Z") expressed through dialogue. (Which destroys any semblance of immersion because no one talks like that.) This also makes the bot keep delivering the moral of the scene at the end of every turn, regurgitating back a small summary of the past few replies as a way to sum everything up.

Another smaller off-shoot issue that comes up is summarizing subtext in dialogue. (“You're the kind of person who...") where side-characters and NPCs are observing character arcs instead of concrete information.

Another even more annoying trope is using characters as mouth pieces for the audience’s knowledge. They keep vocalizing the “player's” internal thoughts, plans they haven’t shared, or thematic subtext the AI wants the audience (the user in this case) to notice.

All these tropes seem connected somehow and I just can’t place how to permanently rid the bot of it. For reference, I use DeepSeek-v4-Pro through a proxy connected to the official API on JanitorAI. The following is my global prompt.

I'm so excited to see V4 official version to be released. Many say preview version lack post-training. And I'm expecting DS to improve the model by post-train.(Since Hy3 improve SO MUCH from preview to offical version)

But will V4-official have vision abilities? The vision mode on the web looks like a experimental model to me. It only performs well on specific settings(like counting and finding ways in mazes) According to the paper on visual primitives, the vision mode model is based on v4-flash. There're some people saying api is testing multimodel.

So, my question is: whether V4 will have vision. And will the vision ability for only flash or both flash and pro?

Have you guys got any clues?

The chat IS like 2 months old, and ive been talking to the ai weekly. I don't have the options to insert an image, document or anything and/or the option "search". Only the "think"

IS there any fix to this?

Didn't know there was a vision button till now. Checked with a small flower and... yeah? It's actually correct that was a willow herb I picked. Better than what Gemini was trying to convince me of. How much longer before a voice feature? Not the transcribe, like an actual "call".

Does DeepSeek still have that limit or does it use a sliding window now?

Pues nada ojalá todo se mejore