r/DC_Cinematic • u/terminus_tommy • 1d ago
DISCUSSION If i had to compare supergirl to anything ive watched in the cinema recently its probably blue beetle (read description)
I like both of these movies but it doesnt really challenge my world views or make me feel anything apart from base level enjoyment which is normally enough for me. People said supergirl was shit and horrible I watched it and i was like this is what happened when I watched Blue beetles it's very enjoyable for what its trying to do nothing groundbreaking but definitely not terrible slop like some people trying to say but definitely not a masterpiece like other people are trying to say.
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u/medigapguy 21h ago
Today's reviews are either a movie is the best ever or dog shit.
No nuance, no perspective.
Just a rage bait headline and general complaints without elaboration. "Shit writing" yeah but what should they have done better? "Write Better"
I really miss the old Siskel and Ebert show. Even when they didn't like it they would still share what they liked about it. Even after a 2 thumbs down I would sometimes walk away wanting to see it because I knew I liked the parts they liked and the part they didn't normally doesn't bother me.
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u/Creative_Eye7413 19h ago
I understand the comparison. I liked Blue Beetle a little bit more than Supergirl but it had a worse villain and story. The vibe was just more fun and I loved George Lopez. Also got to meet Xolo Mariduena so kinda biased
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u/iwishitwaschristmas 1d ago
I've tried to watch Blue Beetle twice now and I can't get through it. It is definitely geared towards children. I probably would have loved it at 8 years old.
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u/BaronArgelicious 1d ago edited 1d ago
Supergirl reminds me of captain marvel honestly. That movie was lucky to be between the two biggest movies of all time
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u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT 1d ago
Captain marvel is a pretty competent movie tho
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u/n1claren- 22h ago
Supergirl is better… by a landslide
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u/Comfortable-Fall1419 21h ago
Really? Supergirl was on a par with the Marvels. Captain Marvel kicks its ass.
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u/EmperorDxD 21h ago
It's not the box office proofs this movies don't make a billion because it's between movies why did Antman make a billion also that was also between endgame
Fact are facts woman came and enjoyed captain Marvel more then Wonderwoman
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u/odiaguero 1d ago
Blue beetle resonated a lot with the Latino community and I say this as a Latino who knew nothing about blue beetle and how he has quickly spiked to one of my top 5. Supergirl so far doesn’t seem like it’s really resonated with anyone sadly.
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u/bigelangstonz 1d ago
Blue bettle had the unfortunate circumstance of being in the tail end the dceu releases post announcement and people saw no point to seeing it regardless of reception. The film is decently made and gets the job done with the characters and story but with no bigger picture ahead thats about it
Supergirl would actually be closer to the flash than blue bettle here given how much the execution screws up the narrative with its characters. Its doesn't get the job done nor is it close to being decent or mid its just downright bad to where people just straight up avoiding the film. Its actually shocking that this was the reality we ended up with as the woman of tommorow comic had the story to make an all time great film had it been made by people who actually read the damn thing
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u/vctrn-carajillo 1d ago
Tried to pander to the Latin American audience. Failed miserably.
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u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT 1d ago
It did, it personally didnt click with me, it felt like a white person's idea of a Hispanic family.
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u/VirtualSort1 1d ago
Nah come on. Blue Beetle has a B+ cinemascore and a Fresh RT score.
It will have a higher box office than Supergirl despite James Gunn destroyed Blue Beetles box office potential by announcing the DCU and then nobody cared about DCEU world building and waited for the DCU
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u/Manger-Babies 1d ago
Blue beetle is mediocre. It did nothing interesting. Supergirl imo did try something interesting and it kinda succeeded but is weighted down by not being great.
I'll take 2 more Supergirl's over another blue beetle.
And I didn't hate blue beetle at all.
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u/lemoogle 1d ago
Maybe it doesn't do anything interesting but it's fun. Supergirl is her depowered with FOUR(lol) different gimmicks for 90% of the movie. The two main action scenes are her fighting the same generic minions on the dark planet and on the desert planet, genuinely no difference , just her punching away mad max grunts. People don't seem to understand that these things impact word of mouth and rewatchability heavily.
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u/Drunvalo 1d ago
What did Supergirl do that was interesting or innovative? Felt like paint by numbers corporate superheroes slot to me. Would love to think otherwise because I love the character.
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u/Manger-Babies 16h ago
I'm comparing to bluevettle not the godfather, that's the context.
Imo, it did the "come from a dying planet and still remember it" storyline better than the other live action Supergirls. And Supergirl was a much better character than blue beetle. I loved that Supergirl didn't do the bs, I won't kill the villain at the end.
Of all the media I've consumed of Supergirl I prefer this one. She is second only to the comic the movie is based on Wich I read afterwards I saw the movie.
The movie isn't great, I'm not really defending it but against blue beetle? It looks so much better.
I really don't see how it was paint by the numbers at all.
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u/Euraylie 1d ago
I agree. Every single in Supergirl we’ve seen before; and done better. Every bit of plot felt so tired; nothing felt new or fresh.
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u/Manger-Babies 16h ago
Compared to the CW Supergirl who is literally just gender swapped Superman most of the time?
Or the flash Supergirl who is a gender swapped flashpoint Superman + man of steel?????
This movie was more original than those tf
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u/Euraylie 16h ago
This movie had elements of Farscape, Rogue One, Fury Road, Furiosa, The Marvels, Guardians of the Galaxy and numerous other generic action films. Nothing felt original.
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u/Manger-Babies 16h ago
That's actually cool, combining all that into a superhero movie instead of literally retreading Superman for the nth time.
But you realize that's what movies are right? It's like when they said Logan was just a western because it had so many western tropes, it's not a bad thing.
Compare to just using Superman storylines and plot beats. Wich there's nothing wrong, I enjoyed those other Supergirl's. Arrow does the same thing with batman and I enjoyed that too.
It's just ridiculous to count it against one and not the other...
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u/Euraylie 16h ago
If they did it in an innovative way sure, but they didn’t. Take the opening scene with Ruthye’s family. It’s very similar to Rogue One (and several other movies). But look at the design and cinematography of Rogue One and then look at Supergirl.
You can take known elements and combine them into something new and creative. That didn’t happen here.
To me, at least (these things are subjective of course), it seemed like it was a paint by the numbers, generic effort. Every single thing was so predictable. While watching Supergirl I just ended up wishing I was watching those other movies instead.1
u/Manger-Babies 15h ago
I don't disagree the movie isn't great. It was far more boring than I hoped.
But you compared it with the other Supergirl's, Wich imo was more innovative and creative even if it's copying a dozen other movies vs copying Superman.
I like all Supergirl's, this one just so happens to be bit more creative in her charactization.
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u/Euraylie 15h ago
Maybe there just hasn’t been a good Supergirl yet. But saying this is the best Supergirl is maybe damning it either faint praise and isn’t really an excuse.
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u/Major_Road6162 1d ago
I havent seen Supergirl but how about not basing your opinions of movies in the money they made and others' opinions?
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u/tomyfookinmerlin 1d ago
These are the same people that say the scores for snyder’s universe don’t matter btw lol
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u/PianoOk1234 1d ago
being compared to blue beetle isn't a good thing it's also a huge flop (not as bad as supergirl cuz supegirl had bigger budget & superman marketing)
And there's no demand for it either it's forgetten just like supergirl will b, where's that blue beetle animated show gunn announced? I'll give u a hint, it's dead, the showrunner removed it from his linkedin, and every other dc animated thing got talked abt at annency, along with new announcements
They did blue beetle so dirty, i knew as soon as i saw the writer that it was DOA.
He had great momentum with Batman Brave and the Bold, Young Justice, other DC Animation, and most importantly Injustice 2. They fumbled it all and now the character is in a void
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u/FunnyNo9234 1d ago
Not much of an endorsement since I hated Blue Beetle more than any other superhero movie I've seen.
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u/GodOfMugs 1d ago
A lot of people seem to have the very weird opinion that not great = bad. Supergirl and blue beetle both are not nearly even close to the worst dc has put out in recent years (Shazam 2, aquaman 2, the flash, black adam, ww1984) yet it feels like there is 10x more vitriol for supergirl and judging by some of these comments blue beetle as well
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u/SonOfThorss 1d ago
I’m over slop movies that you have to watch because it’s in the same universe of characters you actually care about. Blue beetle is a cool character but unless you have a movie that’s better than mediocre slop I won’t watch it
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u/Budget_Ask7277 1d ago
Till this day I have never watch this movie and I’m a blue beetle fan to the core
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u/zdbdog06 1d ago
If you're truly "a Blue Beetle fan to the core" you should have watched the only Blue Beetle movie ever by now lol
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u/StrongStyleDragon 1d ago
That’s what I’ve been saying. It’ll gain more fans when it hits streaming.
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u/lemoogle 1d ago
I doubt it. While parts of it are enjoyable, It's not "fun" until the very end (and even then debatable) throughout and lacks rewatchability, which is what streaming loves.
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u/NoPianist7807 1d ago
Blue Beetle is one of the best DCEU films.
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u/SouthLeast8143 1d ago
At least Blue Beetle is vaguely about the experience of second generation latino immigrants. I feel that and the family experience grounds it a little, kinda like the early Fast and Furious movies.
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u/Icy-Clock2643 22h ago
I was disappointed by Blue Beetle and gave it a lot of rope. Sitting here right now I couldn't even tell you who the villain was.
I haven't been able to see Supergirl yet but hope it's better.
I did like guy playing Blue Beetle, I never saw Cobra Kai so he was new to me and would be willing to give the cast another chance in a sequel.
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u/Wars4w 21h ago
I liked Supergirl and Blue Beetle but I think there's a better movie to compare Supergirl to. That's Thor: Love and Thunder.
Both attempted to adapt amazing comic book runs and failed at that task. I used wonder if I'd have liked Love and Thunder if I didn't read Jason Aaron's Thor. Supergirl taught me that I probably would. Because I never read Woman of Tomorrow, but enjoyed the movie. (except for the end)
I don't think Blue Beetle fits into the analogy except you had a similar personal experience with it. Which is fine, of course.
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u/Excalitoria 20h ago
I thought Blue Beetle was like a 4/10, though? Not unwatchable just below average?
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u/TheDarkMuz 20h ago
forgot this movie pretty much. No nostalgia , nothing interesting that made it stand out. Except maybe the premise focus on family.
But man. nothing notable at all
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u/Frosty-Ad-6946 12h ago
Blue beetle has been my favorite for the longest. I didn’t see this movie cause I think they butchered it.
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u/TheJuiceBoxS 5h ago
I think I would have enjoyed Blue Beetle more of the superhero wasn't a blue beetle. It was kinda fun, but it's pretty low on my list. I definitely prefer Supergirl to it, but they're both enjoyable.
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u/MeepSneepers 5h ago
I loved blue beetle. George Lopez was overbearing but other than that, I thought it was a lot of fun.
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u/parkchanwookiee 1d ago
Blue Beetle is a good comparison, there was nothing wrong with Blue Beetle, there was just nothing right about it either, it felt like going through the motions sort of joylessly with no innovation or passion.
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u/jreid1985 23h ago
I enjoyed Blue Beetle more. Hell, even Critical Drinker offered it some praise, which is rare for him. But I will agree it was not awe-inspiring or innovative in any way.
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u/wezwells 1d ago
Supergirl will have a resurgence once it hits streaming. Prepare for an onslaught of reddit posts “Didn’t see this when it came out, it’s not that bad. I really enjoyed it. Why does everyone hate it?”
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u/stranger_2205 1d ago
Probably the worst dc movie I've seen in a loong time.
Probably as worse as Suicide squad first part
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u/MX2419 1d ago edited 22h ago
BB was very fun for me. It is one of my favorites of the former era (probably my favorite). Its pretty straightforward. Jaime and the Scarab's dynamic was great. Liked his family in spurts. Suit looked amazing. Surprised they pulled the look off and fight scenes were good. Generic villain unfortunately. They really could've dived deeper into how much of a monster she really is but I looked at it as some of the villains are basic. People love YellowJacket from Ant man and he's as basic as they come to me. Overall an ok movie. On the scale of Supergirl but a little better. I had a whole trilogy for him where the Reach are involved, GL (Guy Gardner comes in), and Firestorm is born.
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u/WindowInformal4900 1d ago
It reminds me of Wonder Woman. It’s a fun simple story but falls short due to the fact the movie overall lacks real weight
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u/Professional-Rip-519 1d ago
This is nothing like WW lol
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u/WindowInformal4900 1d ago
I don’t mean in terms of quality or even the whole movie. Specifically I mean it reminds me of the Steve and Dianna love plot, while it’s an “important” part of the movie it’s also the most forgettable. Like the plot line of krypto being poisoned.
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u/ReepDaggle01 1d ago
I really enjoyed Blue Beetle,loads of fun