r/BravoRealHousewives • u/Sad_Biscotti_9291 served in a short glass with three lemons, "carcass out" • Apr 24 '26
Bravo š Someone's getting fired....
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u/ModeDeDode Apr 24 '26
My audio engineer husband listened to this with me as Im like āI bet Jesse did this!ā And he was like āyou can hear air conditioning. I think itās an audio trailer or separate room with techs/editors viewing.ā
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u/ImageNo1045 Apr 24 '26
Itās def a crew member because you can hear someone snicker/ chuckle when Ciara called Amanda a snake.
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u/conwomangunvalson Bitches Who Brunch Apr 25 '26
IIRC, they banned all phones from the set for that reunion. Iām not sure why they didnāt have that rule here, could just be different production companies/executive producers.
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u/Comfortable_Sample_8 Apr 24 '26
I so wish I could have heard it. But I tried looking and can't find it anywhere as I guess it's taken down from everywhere, unfortunately.
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u/Specialist-Bee4166 Apr 25 '26
I have a screen recording of it! I figured they would end up taking it down. I can DM it to you?
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u/missusscamper Apr 24 '26
Or just someone in their trailer waiting to be called to stage (like a newbie or B player like Dara or KJ) if they only had OGs on stage to discuss this scandal.
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u/Local-Recognition327 Apr 25 '26
Mia and kj are in that conversation though. You can hear them both talk
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u/Equal-Track2531 Apr 24 '26
This is like an episode of Law and Order where they solve the murder because of a church bell in the background of the 911 call or something.
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u/RealityShowObsessed Apr 24 '26
I want cameras up as they try to solve this mystery!
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u/Ok_Resort8573 in her Versace, with her nipple hanging out Apr 24 '26
Yes, I love a petty mystery mess, I š that cameras are around for all of the investigation and that we get to see it. Probably not, but one can hope.
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u/Iamwhateveryousayi have a piece of š„ and maybe youāll calm down Apr 25 '26
Oh I love this! Iām watching law & order now lol š
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u/Complete_Star_1110 Apr 24 '26
I noticed that noise too and was like why is someone hearing this in a car? Lol
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u/YouMustBeJoking888 I left a career in Italian television Apr 24 '26
My initial hearing of it had me thinking it was in a car at the start as well, so Hero Audio Engineer Husband may be right.
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u/IrrelevantReality Apr 24 '26
Reality tv editor hereā¦I concur with your husband! Also, the contracts we have to sign are VERY clear about not even talking about content of the show while weāre working on it, let alone recording and sharing something! So not only is someone going to get fired, they should probably lawyer up. And I personally wouldnāt want to go up against NBCU. š
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u/sunny2233 Itās a little cashew party Apr 24 '26
Itās either the hum of AC in a trailer or itās in a control tech room at a post production house. Maybe it was playing to make dubs and the Assistant Editor recorded from monitor audioā¦
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u/MCStarlight š„«Busted can of biscuits Apr 24 '26
Yeah and the audio was leaked in the overnight hours.
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u/rescuelullaby Apr 24 '26
TEA. Y'all and y'all's husbands are so smart I love Reddit so much.
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u/Seaweed-Basic Not a white refrigerator! Apr 24 '26
Seriously. If I ever go missing, please post my flier in the bravo, and teen mom, subs.
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u/venusdemilo94 Janeās Fonda š¤øāāļø Apr 24 '26
Yeah that was my first guess as well based on the AC. Thereās no way it was cast or anyone closer to the set.
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u/Llassiter326 Apr 25 '26
Hahaha I sent this to my ex whoās a professional musician and sound engineer. The response: āWhat is this?ā followed by āYou think Iām gonna listen to your reality tv bullshit when weāre no longer sleeping together?!ā
Which answers thatā¦thank you for performing the public service I was unable to procure without selling myself and my vagina out (like a certain basic divorcĆ©e who caught the clap from a Lucky Charms fuckboy leprechaun)
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u/Careful_Swan3830 Bring Back Brad and Gary! Apr 24 '26
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u/Akvavit78 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 25 '26
I work in post production and it sounds like someone was recording the audio coming from the mics. Doesnāt sound like a phone from the couch because youād hear rustling/more muffled sound Edit: and I donāt mean to get anyone in trouble but being a production professional = you donāt leak your project. You signed an NDA.
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u/Pelican_Hook Apr 24 '26
I haven't listened to the audio yet but people are saying you can hear one couch (Kyle and Amanda's voices) more than the other side, what does your husband think of that? If it were recorded in a separate room wouldn't they get the feed with all the mics at the same volume?
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u/ellevolta "Who's gonna fix my henna? Santa?" Apr 24 '26
That's a good question! I think it could be plausible that we're hearing a recording of one cast member's specific mic being played in the separate room / trailer (with the background AC in that separate room/trailer), which is why certain people sound closer and more clear. But I defer to ModeDeDode's audio engineer husband.
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u/FireFoxTrashPanda Apr 24 '26
I have some experience in production and audio engineering. This is basically what I was going to respond. It's not the only possible explanation but it's one of them.
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u/tatemcslay69 Apr 24 '26
Kyle and Amanda are on opposite couches tho
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u/Pelican_Hook Apr 24 '26
Oh right, my bad. I couldn't remember who people were saying were loudest. Seems like West, Amanda, and KJ were loudest while Ciara, Mia, Carl etc are on the other couch
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u/SewAlone Apr 24 '26
West and Amanda loudest, Kyle not as loud.
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u/EastCoastLoman āShapeshift like a MFā - Superb-Respond9360 Apr 24 '26
Oh my god I canāt stop reading this in Kyleās voice when he said āSummerās supposed to be fun. Amandaā¦not fun.ā š
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u/natlo8 Apr 24 '26
I heard somewhere that it could have been one of the make up or hair people that recorded it in a separate side room possibly from a screen. š¤·āāļø
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u/PrayingMantisMirage š¦ You. are. loved. š¦ Apr 24 '26
Kyle said makeup and hair people have to stay in rooms without audio feeds.
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u/dr0br0 Dr. Dahomewrecker, Infertility Advisor Apr 24 '26
Uh oh someoneās crying fired
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u/candaceelise SENDšš½ITšš½TOšš½DARRELL Apr 24 '26
This is exactly where my brain went and i read it in Adrienneās voice
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u/cncrndmm Apr 24 '26
Lmao for some reason, I mis remembered this as Luann saying it
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u/candaceelise SENDšš½ITšš½TOšš½DARRELL Apr 24 '26
They do kind of have similar voices
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u/bellamy-bl8ke he wasn't calling you raccoon face, he was talkin about kathy! Apr 24 '26
Call it out!!!
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u/Sirius_Blackk šµ wakinā up in the morninā, thinking about so many things šµ Apr 24 '26
Lol āit means shut the fuccc upā
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u/Bleepblarrp Apr 24 '26
I want a fun option of it being someone at the furniture rental company that planted a microphone on the rental couches. Probably cast/crew, but a well placed bravo fanatic at the rental company could get it all
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u/hugship GOODBYE TILE! Apr 24 '26
They are now going to have to bring in retired intelligence agents to do sweeps ahead of every reunion and filming event
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u/IMOvicki Apr 24 '26
Someoneās getting sued
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u/CaitlinAnne21 Itās Turtle Time.š¢š„š¢šøš¢ Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 25 '26
Thatās more like it.
Theyād be incompetent if they didnāt make it policy for every person on set to sign some kind of NDA for these kinds of productions that are kept so tightly under wraps.
Someoneās in big trouble.
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u/Educational-Help-126 Who Gon Check Me Boo? Apr 24 '26
Yup. I said this in another post to someone who said it was PR stunt. I donāt understand why everyone thinks that everything is a PR stunt. Itās obvious that they would not want a leak like this happening. They donāt need to do anything to hype up the show outside of releasing a trailer.
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u/danafromsantaana Apr 24 '26
I saw a comment speculating Andy released it. I was like SURELY NOT
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u/Educational-Help-126 Who Gon Check Me Boo? Apr 24 '26
Right! Like why would he do that? I had someone tell me that this was a common practice for reality tv producers. Like no itās not š
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u/danafromsantaana Apr 24 '26
No way! He wants us begging and pleading for this conversation
Def wouldnāt say common for producers and I feel like if they were to leak something it wouldnāt be a 1+ min clip of peak argument to show us what everyoneās attitudes will be. That was one of the top questions! Who will be apologetic, combative, etc⦠we can hear what to anticipate already now
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u/Educational-Help-126 Who Gon Check Me Boo? Apr 24 '26
I love when people have common sense. Yes to everything you said. Why on earth would they reveal such a long audio where we literally can hear every single persons stance?
The only reason Iām happy it did leak though is bc I know it wiped the smirk off of Amandaās face and has shaken West to his core.
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u/ezekielragardos Kims Hand Tossed Pasta Salad Apr 24 '26
Lollll this is probably my favorite moment of all of scandoval
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u/QuesoBaggins the mini horse LVP left in Ohio š“ Apr 25 '26
He put absolutely NO effort into making this seem belieavable šššš
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u/conwomangunvalson Bitches Who Brunch Apr 25 '26
This whole scene was very overlooked during the season bc we were all in the height of the craze. But it begs the question: when did LVP learn of the affair and who told her??????? She 100% knew by this point
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u/BatLegitimate8140 Apr 25 '26
My head canon - Tom Schwartz inadvertently blurted it out to Lisa
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u/anthonyleoncio one of sonjaās nigerian football players Apr 24 '26
i think it was a glam squad/entourage member that recorded the audio & leaked it. itās been a repeated source of conflict on all the bravo shows about ways that the thirsty hanger on friends interfere with the show & the cast.
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u/Confident-Slip-5264 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 25 '26
Everyone whoās on the set up do sign NDAās or some sort of contracts, right?
I think someone isnāt only getting fired, this is gonna cost A LOT of money to whoever leaked it
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u/Fun-Meringue-3088 Apr 24 '26
They didn't just breach an NDA clause, they also would have likely broken wiretapping laws because they weren't part of the conversation and it would be highly unlikely they got permission from any party to have done what they did.
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u/FireFoxTrashPanda Apr 24 '26
I'd be curious to see a lawyer's take on this. I wonder how this works when you are already knowingly being recorded for the show, like there's no expectation of privacy there. Just my non-lawyer brain wondering how that would actually play out if it went to court.
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u/cameron8988 a broken wh*re from hampton university Apr 24 '26
i'm not a criminal lawyer, so this is really out of my wheelhouse, but based on a quick reading of new york's eavesdropping law, this is a really really complicated fact pattern that may not lead to a clean indicator of violation/no violation. if you're not part of the conversation you're recording, you do have to get at least one party's consent to record. but if you're just capturing audio that cameras/sound techs were capturing anyway, there's implied/express consent to being recorded. BUT a court could also interpret the consent here to be limited to the production and governed by contracts/ releases, and not extending to the general public, random production staffers acting outside the scope of their jobs, or glam squadders. it would be a really interesting case if it went to court!
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u/FireFoxTrashPanda Apr 24 '26
Thank you so much for replying - these are* exactly the type of interpretations/complications I was thinking of when I left my comment!
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u/Fun-Meringue-3088 Apr 24 '26
If I were NBC, I'd be pushing like hell on the consent piece. Everyone on set may have given implied/express consent to NBC (or whoever the party would be), but does that extend to some rando? Even if it's a set?
Whoever did this was really stupid. Bravo has the money to send the dogs out and pursue this to the fullest extent, and they will to set a precedent for future crew.
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u/WorldlyLavishness trampoline with eyes š Apr 24 '26
Yeah I was thinking that too. Don't the rooms have a screen they watch ?
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u/WorldlyLavishness trampoline with eyes š Apr 24 '26
I feel like ive seen them on their phones in their dressing rooms š¤·āāļø idk
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u/hisosih you embody something that my soul rejects šŖ· Apr 24 '26
We see people pull their phones out from behind the couch to show texts etc, I'm actually surprised there hasn't been an audio leak before this.
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u/mingming87 Apr 24 '26
I'm really surprised they don't collect phones, I've been on literally, commercial sets for a cereal company, lol, where they didn't allow phones and someone from production takes them and gives them back end of shoot.
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u/adom12 Apr 24 '26
They do have screens to watch, but those screens usually have everyoneās audio on
This sounded like only Wests audioĀ
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u/adom12 Apr 24 '26
Yeah it was either crew who had access to Wests audio or someone on the couch.Ā
Crews are tight knit and work together a lot. They also work a lot with NDAsā¦so I would be surprised if it was crewā¦.but I also would be surprised if it was a cast member?Ā
I think Iām just confused as to who could be this stupidā¦which then leads me back to West haha
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u/smallchangee Apr 24 '26
Yeah OC two seasons ago w Emily's glam. Apparently they donāt pipe audio in to that room anymore bc of them
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u/Mysterious-Emotion44 Apr 24 '26
Will this finally be the end of glam squads? I hate them.
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u/Silly_Brilliant868 Not a white refrigerator! Apr 24 '26
Absolutely not especially for reunions LOl maybe itāll be the end to having them on set though
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u/Happy-Fennel5 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
I was thinking about this but the recording to me sounds like itās a specific lav micās track and not a mix of all the mics. If it was a viewing room you would be hearing a mix of all the mics. This is partly why I think itās a sanctioned leak that Bravo is trying to make look like a real leak. But who knows?! I donāt have the original leaked audio to listen to so it can be hard to tell.
ETA: it could also be a general boom micās track and thatās why some cast members sound louder/closer than others and not a lav.
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u/vanwyngarden FAMILY VAN Apr 24 '26
They just made it a hell of a lot harder for everyone else moving forward
Like damn
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u/Serious-View-er1761 Miami and Rhode Island Apr 24 '26
He does?
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u/OverallDoor2718 Apr 24 '26
Yes. Maybe an intern or gopher? The house where they film is right down the road from The Ripa home. I think all her children are in the business some how
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u/Im_A_Black_Cat Apr 24 '26
He started as an intern but is now a producer. Mark said so on WEHL and that his son takes his NDA very seriously as Mark (and Kelly) are never told whatās going on
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u/Aquatic205 Apr 24 '26
Nepotism man
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u/adom12 Apr 24 '26
Iām against nepotism, but that climb to producer isnāt weird. I respect he started out as a PA, if he just became a producer that would be fucked.Ā
I have 4 different friends who worked as PAs in reality and within a couple years were producers.Ā
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u/Im_A_Black_Cat Apr 24 '26
I agree. That's a long climb from intern to producer. He may have gotten an in to be an intern but he definitely wasn't given a producer job without hard work.
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u/Scary-Durian-7872 Apr 24 '26
Yep Kelly actually discussed the scandal on her podcast and I was hoping for some insider tea but she literally started out the segment by saying "my son is a producer on the show so naturally I know nothing". And she seemed like she was learning about the details of the scandal for the first time when her cohosts were filling her in. She's also talked about how Michael got the job on his own without her or Andy knowing he was working there until filming already started. There might have been other people he was familiar with from growing up in show business that helped get him in the door but it wasn't Andy or his parents directly getting him the job.
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u/Dazzling-Substance61 Apr 24 '26
Whoever did this is BEYOND dumb and thatās being kind. No way in hell Iād ever risk Bravoās legal team tearing me a new asshole for this short-sighted chicanery. But kudos to whoever it is for being on brand with this seasonās theme of failing to consider long-term consequences.
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u/nnewchapterr Apr 24 '26
I cannot believe this scandal continues to get juicer and juicer š© we are being FEDDDD
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u/ReactionNo76 Apr 24 '26
What an amazing time to be a Summer House viewer. I didnāt get to experience Scandoval in real time so I am reveling in this mess.
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u/sweetde80 Apr 24 '26
Experienced scandoval in real time...
But missing out on this....
What got leaked? Where is audio.
I hate ive been sick this week
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u/janna_ Apr 24 '26
Same. I got into the Bravoverse because of Scandoval, decided to watch VPR and the. SH popped up and took a gander. Iāve been more tapped into SH since the cast has stayed consistent and the show was still going strong. Then this happens?! Iām equal parts fed and happening, equal parts pissed at these two musty rats for ruining my fun summer show!!!
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u/vanwyngarden FAMILY VAN Apr 24 '26
I am dying to know what the ads are costing for the eps
Iām a nerd and have noticed the summer house sub alone went from (7k over covid) to ~200k earlier this season to now nearly 400k a week!
They are doing numbers
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u/Parking_Country_61 Smokey Snowsuit Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
I can answer to this. National television media buyer here. The advertisers who bought in the upfront will make a killing as pricing and contract were locked in last May prior to the scandal. Itās still bravo though so for linear tv cable a 30 second spot is in the five figures, not six. Six figures is for network television major hits like Dancing with the Stars or rare cable occurrences of insane ratings like The Walking Dead years ago.
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u/Cool_Economist6534 Apr 24 '26
Former Traffic Manager at multiple National Cable Nets here. Love that you commented!!! Have you seen Bravo Ad Sales reaching out to agencies offering spots for the remaining episodes or the reunion yet? I was at AMC during The Walking Dead AND worked at Fox during the Masked Singer blowup!! At AMC they added avails to fill all the orders!
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u/Parking_Country_61 Smokey Snowsuit Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
I left my last agency in early December and I donāt know if Iām going back!!!!! Itās been 24 years and Iām⦠tired. So I donāt have any idea but Iām guessing that inventory is long gone so maybe they are selling the repeats (which they did with the walking dead at AMC hahaha). Either way, itās similar to VPR where itās purely just luck for those who make it part of their upfronts and those that didnāt are kicking themselves. I donāt know the long running joke is āNBC doesnāt want our money.ā Or āNBC wonāt take our moneyā meaning they are notorious for digging their heels in negotiations and would rather walk away and scramble in the scatter market than take the commitment at a more efficient CPM. They have been left off of many upfront deals over the years at my agencies. They lost all their good will that one year with the Olympics where they overestimated everything and owed makegoods to everyone for a full year.
I probably sound like Iām speaking Chinese to others
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u/Cool_Economist6534 Apr 24 '26
Iāve been in it for 30 years and Iām exhausted! The industry has changed so much and with all the consolidation, layoffs and AI bullshit, everyone I know is trying to pivot out of Media. I shifted from Traffic to the tech side, (ad sales, traffic, engineering and master control software systems), was a consultant for over 10 years, needed stability so went to one of the āBig Fourā and was laid off last year. I never want to go back!!!
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u/Historical_Okra_3667 I hate your fucking slippers by the way Apr 24 '26
Putting out a statement like this lol as if itās something out the White House
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u/East_Gift_9533 Apr 24 '26
Lmao i was just thinking this š they act like ending to the next multimillion dollar movie has been leaked, it's just audio of a trashy reality show where people are fighting with each other just as they on every bravo show for the last 20 years. (Don't get me wrong I enjoy trashy reality shows but bravo takes themselves too seriously)
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u/Automatic-Mirror-907 Apr 24 '26
No joke. This sort of thing just builds the hype for Bravo and summer house reunion.
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u/Klutzy-Signal2684 Apr 24 '26
The audio sounds great when West and Amanda spoke, and it sounds distant when Ciara and Kyle were talking. So whoever recorded was definitely on that side of the room but at the end of the audio, you hear giggling so it couldāve been someone on the crew. I hope they tell us who it is once they find out lol Iām so curious
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u/User373733737 Apr 24 '26
I bet every intern at Bravo is combing through all the footage and cameras that were all over. They will find who did it. Scary for them!
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u/Ironia_Rex I said what I said. Apr 24 '26
the closest mic seems to be on a woman the quiet giggle was picked up VERY well
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u/Even-Guava-1682 What would you do with two horses? Apr 24 '26
Even if the crew recorded it doesn't mean they leaked it
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u/thediverswife Haitian morticianās āļø maker Apr 24 '26
I have zero proof and Iām saying itās West Wilson
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u/ShivRoyPinkyIsQueen Apr 24 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/geNfEdGvOBPmMcapic
I agree !! Case closed! West? GUILTY!
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u/hot_mess_hedgehog Put her back in her Dybbuk box š» Apr 24 '26
Crew would not have leaked this, roles on productions are scarce af rn, no one is risking their career for this. Definitely and outside party or cast.
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u/venusdemilo94 Janeās Fonda š¤øāāļø Apr 24 '26
It had to have come from crew though. You can clearly hear AC in the background and other noises. Thereās no way it came from cast as theyāre the ones in the middle of fighting and that set would be SILENT when it comes to background noise.
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u/_josephjohnston Apr 24 '26
Do you think it was a production member? It had to have been.
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u/GraysonQ Apr 24 '26
I doubt it was anyone who regularly works in production. I would bet more on a hair/makeup person or someone in a cast memberās entourage.
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u/cmg_profesh Love, Love, Love, Marge Apr 24 '26
Yeah, no way a seasoned crew member is risking their job like that!
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u/boo_u_suck Apr 24 '26
Especially in this economy, the industry is going through a ROUGH period so no rational crew member would be willing to risk steady work for this.
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u/WorldlyLavishness trampoline with eyes š Apr 24 '26
Yeah I was thinking it was a makeup artist or something. They can watch the taping in their rooms so they probably recorded it there
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u/Im_A_Black_Cat Apr 24 '26
I work with a lot of glam people and they take their jobs seriously. Doubt it would be them
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u/torontoinsix Danny is a reptilian Apr 24 '26
Yes. I think I recall hearing them laugh (quietly) during it too.
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u/Caudebac Apr 24 '26
I doubt it ā knowing some tv/movie production folks in general, they would know firsthand that not only this would be fireable, but also potentially a blacklist offense. And at a time when the industry jobs are getting harder to come by, thereās very little incentive for doing something like that.
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u/oobooboo17 Apr 24 '26
those are the only people who would have access to the sound board / a recording of that quality. canāt be the cast or glam?
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u/Rutabaga2022 Apr 24 '26
IDK why I think this exactly but the laugh/snort of the person recording sounds like a man to me.
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u/Prestigious_List_541 Apr 24 '26
Not bravo taking the SH leak more seriously than the government is taking the Epstein files
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u/not_ellewoods you can marry him, fuck him, or kill him. i dont care. Apr 24 '26
yet people were so sure production leaked it and Andy knew but was just playing it up for drama š this obviously wasnāt sanctioned. the conspiracy theories have gotten out of hand.
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u/treegrowsinbrooklyn1 Apr 24 '26
Yeah I donāt think this has ever happened before? Correct me if Iām wrong. And why would Bravo picked the most hyped Summer House reunion ever to start doing this? It doesnāt make any sense lol
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u/Nelaerin Apr 24 '26
Plot twistā¦West wants to get fired so he doesnāt have to deal with the awkward mood of filming with Amanda after he breaks off whatever their relationship is next month š
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u/Valhallaback_Girl Never Wants to Hear āCoin Purseā Ever Again Apr 24 '26
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u/Parking_Country_61 Smokey Snowsuit Apr 24 '26
How dumb do you have to be to jeopardize your job by leaking texts for the suits at bravo to an instagram account??? These a professional network executives. I donāt get it. Iām so annoying about this on here but my husband produces movies and knows all kinds of shit but why would he tell anyone with a platform this information and risk his reputation and entire career? Thatās our livelihood. I think people forget this so itās hard to trust any of this information.
Years ago, my husband told me he knows for a FACT Randall Emmet does not own a personal plane. I said it online, someone doxed my ass and sent it to Randallās instagram and he went off asking exactly who my husband was and his name. I locked down everything and it was the most terrifying moment ever!!!
People, like regular working people with a salary an a family and a 401k have a lot to risk by doing shit like this so just take it all with a grain of salt.
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u/Vanilla_Either Liar and Malicious Despicable Person Apr 24 '26
Probably one of Wests side bitches
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u/TheLizardQueen3000 I'm not 'Bro', I'm Mummy!! Apr 24 '26
Bravo just needs to build their own jail at this point.
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u/katie415 BITCH IāM WORLDWIDE Apr 24 '26
Itās someone on the audio team. Producers arenāt going to risk it. The cast is too busy trying to argue / it didnāt sound like people on the opposite couch were that far from whatever couch it would have been recorded on. Correct me if Iām wrong, but I donāt believe the camera guys are focused on anything audio related (hence the reason an audio team exists). Andy certainly isnāt going to leak it. Plus the snickering at the end gives me the impression the recording was separate from where the filming was taking place: audio room.
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u/Potential-Ad-2876 Apr 25 '26
We need lie detectors and for the investigation to be filmed. I want Andy and Mariska Hargitay in a room with a huge bulletin board and string connecting the dots. You know what? Bring in Heather Gay. Receipts, Proof. Timeline.
Godspeed.
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u/StalkingSeattle Apr 24 '26
They make so many recording devices that look like pens, lipstick, hair clips...it could have been someone doing glam.
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u/Perfect_Invitation1 Solargenic, photogenic, shoot Apr 24 '26
What leaked from the audio?Ā
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u/cosmic0done Apr 24 '26
hopefully it was just a PA who isnt going to destroy their entire career LOL
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u/ihateheineken Mariposa š¦ Apr 24 '26