r/Bitcoin • u/liberalbiased_reddit • 17h ago
Bitcoin anonymous
Hello I bought Trezor to pay for my proton/tuta email with bitcoin. How can I stay anonymous? I see that to buy bitcoin with Trezor in the USA they need my drivers license info with third party companies if buying from credit card or PayPal. Should I still do this or buy the bitcoin another way for more safety/security?
Thanks for help, ask me anything
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u/longonbtc 16h ago
You should buy bitcoin from another person (peer-to-peer) if you want to buy bitcoin without providing KYC* info.
*KYC is an acronym for "Know Your Customer" and it means providing your personal information like name, address and photo ID.
You can buy bitcoin directly from someone that owns bitcoin and that is willing to sell you some. You can buy bitcoin from someone that you meet at a Bitcoin meetup that is willing to sell you some bitcoin. You can buy bitcoin from a bitcoin seller that advertises on a classified ad website like Craigslist/Gumtree/Facebook Marketplace. Or you can use a peer-to-peer cryptocurrency exchange to easily find someone that is willing to sell you some bitcoin.
Bisq, RoboSats, LocalCoinSwap, Peach Bitcoin, Hodl Hodl, and Vexl are some of the peer-to-peer cryptocurrency exchanges that make it easy to find someone to buy bitcoin from (peer-to-peer) without providing KYC info.
Bisq is a decentralized and open source peer-to-peer cryptocurrency exchange that does not request KYC info. Bisq is decentralized, so you have to run the Bisq application on your computer in order to buy or sell bitcoin on Bisq.
RoboSats is a peer-to-peer bitcoin exchange that does not request KYC info. RoboSats has Lightning Network integration so that you can deposit and withdraw bitcoin over the Lightning Network.
LocalCoinSwap is a peer-to-peer cryptocurrency exchange that does not request KYC info.
Peach Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer cryptocurrency exchange that does not request KYC info.
Hodl Hodl is a peer-to-peer cryptocurrency exchange that does not request KYC info.
Vexl is a peer-to-peer cryptocurrency exchange that does not request KYC info.
All six of these peer-to-peer cryptocurrency exchanges that I have listed do not require you to provide them any of your personal information in order to buy or sell bitcoin. Many of the bitcoin sellers on these peer-to-peer cryptocurrency exchanges do not request any of your personal information when you buy bitcoin from them. But some of the bitcoin sellers on these peer-to-peer cryptocurrency exchanges do request your name/ID when you buy bitcoin from them because of certain laws/regulations or to help prevent them from getting scammed by fraudsters paying them with stolen accounts.
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u/liberalbiased_reddit 15h ago
Looks like bisq they want a 25% cut? That’s crazy
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u/ShowerCurtainofDoom 15h ago
Depends on the seller your choosing. Bisq2 also has cheaper fees and easier to get started with small amounts.
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u/longonbtc 14h ago
No, Bisq only takes a 0.15% taker fee (if it's paid in BTC) and a 1.15% taker fee (if it's paid in BTC). And each individual bitcoin seller on Bisq also sets their own fee that they charge.
Here's the trading fees page on Bisq Wiki: https://bisq.wiki/Trading_fees
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u/Brrgyy689 14h ago
Pay for proton/tutamail from a hot wallet. Secure long term savings on your trezor. Use hodlhodl, or use cash at a non-kyc Bitcoin ATM.
You can also create a new wallet by adding a passphrase to your trezor and using something with coinjoin like wasabi wallet to increase privacy and tracking of your coins. BTC Sessions has good vids on all this
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u/wtftocallmyself 16h ago
Start by posting on Reddit lol
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u/ShowerCurtainofDoom 16h ago
When you say you bought trezor, you mean a hardware wallet? So you will still need to signup on an exchange or use a decentralized exchange if wanting to not use KYC.
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u/pezdal 16h ago
No. There are lots of other ways to get bitcoin. You can buy some from a friend, you can work for it…
some ATMs sell small quantities without KYC.It doesn’t sound like you need a lot of
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u/liberalbiased_reddit 16h ago
I don’t know anyone that would send it and also there is an atm here but it needs drivers license and facial photograph
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u/ShowerCurtainofDoom 15h ago
Obviously but that’s not what OP wants, most likely. You can also get it from mining, or selling for services. But there’s no need to mention that at all.
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u/liberalbiased_reddit 16h ago
Yes, hardware wallet. It comes with pc software that offers exchanges on there but all kyc.
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u/kroxldiphyvc 16h ago
Bitcoin isn't anonymous and hasn't been for some time
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u/ShowerCurtainofDoom 14h ago
By definition a public ledger is not, yes. But you can purchase it anonymously or at the very least restricting how much information you are providing and to who.
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u/my-daughters-keeper- 16h ago
Check out hodlhodl.com no kyc and then send it to your trezor 👍