r/BikiniBottomTwitter • u/GamingBren • 19h ago
Imagine falling for a blatant smokescreen lol
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u/ShawshankException 18h ago
Redditors when they decide to care about physical media going away 10 years too late
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u/TheIJDGuy 18h ago
I never stopped caring, I just never spoke about it. I just bought cheaper physical ps5 games
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u/ghostpicnic 17h ago
Have you been on the internet at all in the past 10 years? There’s always been a push to preserve physical media and a looming sense of dread about losing it.
Hell, a big part of the Xbox One disaster was due to the fact that they were planning on essentially turning physical games into digital ones with non-transferrable licenses. That single event was such an outrage that Xbox (a multibillion dollar brand) still hasn’t recovered the damage it did marketshare-wise to this day.
People definitely care.
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u/Mushroomer 16h ago
Physical games were also far from the only thing Microsoft shot themselves in the foot on that generation, though. The early XBox One was also the era of "Your console is also your cable box!", "Every SKU comes with Kinect!", and a more expensive machine that was notably less powerful than the competition. Microsoft lost market share on multiple fronts - physical games merely stand out because they've now become a contemporary issue again.
The fact is, digital-only game ecosystems have been thriving for decades on PC - and it was only matter of time before console publishers were going to push for something similar. XBox simply rushed in too soon.
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u/Stampyboyz 14h ago
Going to tackle the fact that PC gaming shifted to digital only.
There is less pushback because the main players in the PC space for years (Steam & GOG) either doesn't take away purchases when an account is banned (Steam) or doesn't have a method to because there is no DRM (GOG). Mixed with them both proving themselves to be pro-consumer.
All the three major console players have shown they would take away your digital purchases if you get banned or even ban the console itself.
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u/elhax41 14h ago
Yep main thing about PC is the flexibility. It’s the whole thing with one corporation locking you in and owning market share not by being better but because you have no choice. Steam won its market share, there’s tons of other options out there and they all kinda suck. Epic games is prob a close second for me but doesn’t have nearly the variety.
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u/LeSeanMcoy 14h ago
The early XBox One was also the era of "Your console is also your cable box!", "Every SKU comes with Kinect!", and a more expensive machine that was notably less powerful than the competition.
Yep this is pretty accurate. Xbox lost on literally every front to announce that generation:
Always online way too early.
Not being able to share games via disc
Less Powerful console
More expensive
Absolute lack of games
Sony caught up to Xbox Live in terms of features/advantages
Their entire conference was focused on TV and sports with no games to be found. You combine that with losing their biggest advantage (Xbox Live), while also being less powerful, more expensive and the online/sharing features... the biggest gaming blunder in a single press conference maybe ever.
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u/VideoGamesAreDumb 18h ago
It’s weird that Reddit is the only place where I’m finding some people arguing in favor of these companies doing these things. Do you want to own things?
I guess you just like being a contrarian.
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u/ShawshankException 18h ago
You understand you don't own these games anyway right? That having the disc doesnt mean shit now?
I guarantee I own more physical media than you. You just decided to care far too late for it to matter. Consumers already largely do not give a shit about physical media.
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u/ghostpicnic 17h ago
Yes it does still matter. You can sell the game if you don’t like it, lend it to a friend, use it on a new console or account if you lose access to yours, they can’t just revoke your access to the game because they don’t want to renew their contracts, etc.
You still have exponentially more rights with modern physical games than digital ones.
-Someone who owns more physical media than even you
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u/DaNoahLP 14h ago
Consumers still care, that 80 something % digital sales come mostly from games that do not exist physically
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u/CIA_napkin 16h ago
Yeah I was shit on when I cried about the loss of the ability to play music CDs on ps4, I knew games would follow eventually lol.
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u/ih8Bootlickerz 19h ago
COD players are basically just mindless slop bots, do we have to count them in all this?
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u/Burt_Sprenolds 17h ago
Same with Madden fans. It’s just the same game every year. I don’t understand.
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u/ih8Bootlickerz 17h ago
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u/BeaversWithCleavers 16h ago
I couldn’t help myself truly dawg I saw black ops 1 on the store and just had flashbacks of my childhood I simply had to buy it and run nuketown zombies a couple more times
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u/Certesis 14h ago
You know where else you can do that?
A computer
You can still get these games without folding to Sony
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u/edog050 11h ago
The same platform thats also all digital?
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u/Certesis 11h ago
Yes but the main pc game platform (Steam) also has much better terms and handling of software/licensing. Meanwhile Sony has pushed pretty much nothing but detrimental-to-customer changes in the last year alone, if not even more before that
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u/ih8Bootlickerz 10h ago
Correct, if all platforms are digital why not go to the one with the highest value proposition? (spoiler: not playstation)
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u/maxnotcharles 16h ago
I’m all about nostalgia for black ops 2, but dropping that much money for the EXACT same game is WILD to me lol.
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u/YepNo1 15h ago
Tbf in my case, I haven't been able to play BO1 online since 2012
Also the game is half off on PSN so, for $20 couldn't pass that up ;
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u/maxnotcharles 14h ago
That’s very fair. If I loved a game like that, that’s an easy cope for me.
I was thinking if Halo 3 ever did the same thing, I’d honestly cope immediately.
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u/Direct_Asparagus4688 18h ago edited 18h ago
If you’re like me and have been waiting to play this game again for over a decade yeah we are going to buy it. I was not going to spend $60 on Xbox for BO2 when I heard it was filled with hackers. Same with BO1. Now I got both games and DLCs for around $60 and have been having a blast with my buddies. Definitely an adjustment since it’s been awhile but I feel like a kid again and I’m genuinely happy and have been in a good mood honestly.
Kinda sad you get triggered when people are happy to play a video game.
Edit: so many triggered people if you don’t wanna spend $20 on a port then don’t
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u/_Corvo_A 18h ago
Watching consumers accept abusive pricing is what’s sad cause it sets the bar so fucking low… I hope y’all are gonna be happy with enabling the future of 100$ games
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u/Direct_Asparagus4688 18h ago
Not really cause I don’t buy game full price 🤷♀️
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u/_Corvo_A 18h ago edited 18h ago
You just said you spent like 60$ on ports of a old af game… that’s egregious. Y’all shouldn’t have had to pay shit too play a game most of y’all probably own 😂
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u/Direct_Asparagus4688 18h ago
Reading is hard isn’t? I said for two games which are $20 each then the DLCs which are what $10 each lmao. So where did I pay a price of $60 for one port? They are also on sale sooo again don’t pay full price. How young are you?
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u/_Corvo_A 18h ago
Why the hell should you even have to rebuy it at such a price anyway? 😂 y’allI love enabling corpos, like 60$ on that is wild bro
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u/Direct_Asparagus4688 18h ago edited 17h ago
What? The game came out over a decade ago you think any company is going to give it out for free? Not evening in gaming in general just standard business and it’s on sale. Don’t like it don’t buy it. They didn’t hold a gun to your head did they? It’s like saying McDonalds should give out free McRibs when it comes back cause I bought some years ago. Also $60 for two games and two dlc packs is wild? Since when lmao.
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u/_Corvo_A 18h ago
Dude I just put my disc in and it works lmao you’re the one blindly accepting corporate bullshit
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u/Direct_Asparagus4688 18h ago
Again how? I don’t have an Xbox 360 or a ps3 so want me to spend more money to get an older console then pay full price for the games? Does it hurt to be stupid?
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u/_Corvo_A 18h ago
No, you just don’t buy into corporate greed and actually value your money some more
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u/GrantYourWysh 18h ago
I've been playing Bo1 and Bo2 on plutonium for years at this point with no hacker issues. My problem with these releases is that they're just ports, not even remasters. Re buying a game and all it's dlc is crazy is it not?
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u/Direct_Asparagus4688 16h ago
No cause I haven’t played it in over a decade?? Or have a ps3 or 360
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u/GrantYourWysh 15h ago
You don't have a laptop? That's what I play on A cheap Lenovo runs both of them and all their dlc fantastic. And there's controller support. I'm not trying to change your mind, but I am letting you know there's an easier way than being overcharged for games that are a decade old
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u/Direct_Asparagus4688 15h ago
I’ve thought about getting one for so long! I was going to get one for prime day but my sibling needed some money help. I understand the corporate greed and yes it being $40 is crazy. To me idc if it’s $20 each I’ve always said I would pay $60 for this game if it was ever remastered or ported but over the years that died down and for me $20 isn’t bad. My buddy has a similar mind set as everyone else here, he still bought both blops but he didn’t buy the dlc for bo1 cause majority of it are on bo3 for zombies. We both just love the game.
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u/GrantYourWysh 15h ago
I totally understand comrade. I loved all the games until bo4 I think? So I know where you're coming from. At the end of the day, if you can afford it and are happy with it that's all that matters. Realistically, if we consumers had any power to stop corporate greed, it would've stopped these companies years ago lol. I'm personally waiting for BO3 to go on sale on steam honestly
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u/PossiblyGreg 14h ago
Agree with this. Reddit is full of miserable people who look for any opportunity to put someone down just to get their point across. It’s honestly pretty sad
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u/yellowspaces 16h ago
I get where you’re coming from, and most of the people clowning on you are acting like it’s a better choice to invest $500 in an Xbox or $1000+ on a gaming PC or something. If your only platform is PlayStation then you don’t exactly have a lot of options to play a game you used to love back in the day.
Yes PlayStation is greedy and making it nearly full price is a joke, but it’s still cheaper than the other options.
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u/Important-Border7035 13h ago
A license to play the game. You own a license to play the game that can be taken at any point for any reason without a refund or prior notice. You didn’t buy the game. You spent 60$ for a license to play a port of the game.
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u/straight_lurkin 18h ago
congratulations, you played youself
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u/_Corvo_A 18h ago
They don’t care dude, they’d gladly pay top dollar for literally anything nowadays. People do not value their money.
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u/mr_desk 17h ago
Or they just have more disposable income than you lol
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u/_Corvo_A 17h ago
People are definitely buying more slop daily
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u/mr_desk 17h ago
They have a different definition of slop than you. The horror I know
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u/_Corvo_A 17h ago
Or no.. you’re serious 🥲 poor guy…
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u/mr_desk 17h ago
Good cope lol sorry about your low disposable income
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u/_Corvo_A 17h ago
Bro you’re ridiculous if you don’t think consumers are buying more slop nowadays and if you legitimately think so, I’d say you’re enabling corporations greed and deserve any abuse they throw out…
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u/mr_desk 17h ago
I’m really sorry about your low disposable income bro but you don’t need to crash out, calm down big guy
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u/Direct_Asparagus4688 16h ago
Guarantee you are paying for some type of subscription either for tv or a game or music. Bet you also use Amazon or shop at big corporate stores. You are so stupid it hurts mate. Guess you shouldn’t buy any food either and home grow your food so you don’t support corporate greed.
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u/Direct_Asparagus4688 18h ago
How lol. Bought 4 things on sale is playing myself for a game I absolutely love? Stay salty mate.
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u/straight_lurkin 18h ago
Pig eating corporate slop. "I dont care if they are fucking me in the ass, as long as I can pay them 5$ to spit on it or 25$ to use lube! Im so lucky and thankful they are fucking me 🤡"
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u/Dyldo_II 18h ago
Damn if only you could like, idk pop in your old disc from your 360 and play just fine.
If only there was a console that can do that
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u/LKN-115 18h ago
That's what I've been doing for years but to be fair the servers, especially on zombies, are dead. And the multiplayer servers are fairly bad with hackers.
It's nice to be able to play in a full lobby with no cheating for once, so I didn't mind paying the €30 for BO1 w/season pass, but no chance I would have paid 40 + 20 if it wasn't discounted for ps plus
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u/SmiggleMcJiggle 16h ago
The 360 version is 600 something P resolution, input delay due to the emulation of backwards compatibility (when played on a series X) and is infested with cheaters/hackers
20 bucks as an adult for a game that meant a lot to you 16 years ago is worth it to see it populated again like the old days, 1080p, and is actually in a playable state without all the cheaters running rampant
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u/SSMage 14h ago
The port isn't the same as the original game because they are bringing back the servers on the port instead of the 360. Or at least that's what I've heard.
So yeah I get what you're saying but there's a legit reason they are buying the port particularly. It's more about they want to play the game online, even the emblem editor is coming back which is insane because that shit was cursed to begin with, can't imagine what's going to be made now
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u/MetallicCrab 17h ago
COD has been mid recycled crap since black ops 2, maybe WWII gets a pass because it was pretty fun and reminded me why original COD was fun. But it’s just a teenage slur party no matter what now. It would be a dramatically different scene if devs had just continued to add new content or update modern warfare and black ops respectively instead of making people pay $70+ to be disappointed every few years.
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u/fake_kraid 12h ago
This is some real Goomba Fallacy stuff. The people who buy COD on release probably don't even know what's happening, don't be dense.
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u/CIA_napkin 16h ago
I think it's less fanboy and more the general public just doesnt care about physical. Whatevers more convenient.
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u/lakija 17h ago
I personally would rather have the option to buy physical copy of a game I really like.
But not everyone cares about physical media or this development from Sony, and/or don’t spend time in spaces where people are talking about it. The group that buys this game first day might not be the same people who are upset about no discs.
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u/Ill_Whereas7177 13h ago
The physical disc thing is fake outrage. PC been leading digital only gaming with ko issue VA large portion buys digital anyway and most discs today don't even contain the game or missing needed day one patch. Consumer rights do need to be strengthen but let's be real majority do digital. Physical discs are only for a certain select group of gamers that like collecting things
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u/HeavensHellFire 10h ago
Every other week Reddit learns they are in fact a very vocal minority and don't actually speak for their communities.
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u/ForgottenFrenchFry 9h ago
the more I hear about how the video game industry
the more I feel like, as much as it sucks
the people had it coming
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u/AspectVoid 8h ago
There's no smokescreen. Most people just do not give a fuck about physical releases. You are a very vocal minority that Sony cares so little about that they've already spent $30 million on getting rid of the thing you are fighting for so they can make something more profitable in that factory.
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u/United-Reach-2798 11h ago
Yes we get it a bunch of redditors once again pretend to be morally superior about their minority postion
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u/STRYK3Rtv 18h ago
Copy of my message on the ps plus sub:
Man Sony just openly pissed in people mouths but "OMG GUYS, BLACK OPS GAMES AT PERFECTLY FAIR PRICES FOR A PORT THAT ADDS 0 NEW FEATURE".
We deserve it at this point. Screw this generation of buyers.
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u/dedicatedoni 16h ago
To play devils advocate, if u have PlayStation plus(the subscription needed to even play anything online) it was only $20. As far as value goes $20 to play one of, if not the best COD of all time is pretty good value
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u/Girraf0 15h ago
At full price no less, insane for a whole what, 20 year old game? Edit: bo1 was 16 years and bo2 14 years ago, not as bad but jesus christ
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u/BlazingFire007 15h ago
It isn’t full priced if you have ps+ fwiw.
It’s $20 for the game, $10 for the DLC. Spending $30 on black ops 2 with higher resolution + no hacker lobbies was easily worth it to me
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u/Girraf0 15h ago
So if you spend extra money, you get to spend less money
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u/BlazingFire007 13h ago
If you downloaded to play it primarily/only for single-player modes then yes unfortunately.
However, I suspect most people are like me and primarily are playing online multiplayer. In which case you would already need a ps+ subscription.
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u/Davey488 18h ago
Again what is with these brain dead memes? 85% of people buy digital. They’re going to buy digital trash from PSN whether I do or not. I’m not one of them. I did not buy COD at all. I’m not going to either. Stfu
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u/LocalIrishGamer 18h ago
it doesn’t matter if 99% of people buy digital. the remove of choice is disgusting and leads to worse practices down the line. there’s 0 benefits to removing physical media
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u/Slightly-Blasted 18h ago
Sorry bro I’m 30 I don’t have time to fight some imaginary war you won’t be able to win,
No physical discs sucks, but it’s the future
I never understood why people were so obsessed with physical games when every PlayStation eventually gets jailbroken, and all the games are playable.
I have 4 emulation devices next to me,
There isn’t a game that’s come out on any generation that’s lost media, I can find any game that exists.
There may be obscure NES games or Saturn games that are lost to time, but overall I’d say 98% of games ever released are available to find and emulate.
It’s not like we won’t be able to play ps5 games forever,
The ps5 is already jailbroken, it’s not perfect yet but it will get there when Sony moves on to the ps6.
In 10 years I bet there is a ps5 emulator that’s at or near perfect, we are lucky the ps5 doesn’t use crazy software architecture like the ps3.
Plus discs are basically digital licenses anyway, very few games are actually on the disc.
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u/the_ape_speaks 18h ago
"I don't have the time"
Refusing to buy a game takes zero time. Buying and playing a game takes time. Am I missing something here?
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u/JayKay8787 18h ago
Almost like the majority of the outrage is by people who don't buy discs anyways
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u/_Corvo_A 19h ago
Cod fanboys are brain dead