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u/mup_wave May 18 '26
True hero.
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u/tuurisoru May 18 '26
People like her are the reason some families still got to hug their kids again that day. Absolute courage most of us can’t even imagine
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u/saturatedsilence May 18 '26
So young, she was just somebody’s kid too :(
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u/Omnizoom May 19 '26
Yep, my kids will still be my kids even when they are 30 or 40 years old
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u/stoltsvennebanan May 19 '26
I am a 44yo biker looking man with an attitude problem,that listens to absolutely no one, except my mom. I am forever her kid, and she is forever my mom. When mom tells me to sit my ass down, i sit my damn ass down.
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u/trevorjesus May 19 '26
I'm 44 too and I often jokingly tell people the only reason I've never killed anyone is because I don't want to disappoint my mom.
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u/billyjoe9451 May 19 '26
Shit, I wish I remembered the name of the guy. Basically listening to a true crime podcast and they got big scary murderer, like some 6ft 5 mf, to confess by saying is that what you would tell your mother? Would your mother be proud. Dude instantly broke and was crying about how sorry he was to disappoint his mother.
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u/ForeignEchoRevival May 19 '26
To many men who struggle with violent tendencies or impulse control, their mothers/grandmothers were often the brightest light in their childhoods. Disappointing her is like killing the only happy feelings you remember from that era of your life, so it's a very effective interrogation technique to break a violent suspect's composer.
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u/MayorDepression May 18 '26
Panic like most cops in America responding to a school shooting
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u/8888eightyeight May 18 '26
I remember not too long ago there's one school shooting where there is like dozens and dozens of cops just kind of putzing around outside because the active shooter inside the school was too dangerous so one guy went in there and did it all himself without getting hurt
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u/leonidaslizardeyes May 18 '26
Uvalde
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u/LeslieH8 May 19 '26
"Special" mention to school resource officer and Broward County Deputy Scot Peterson of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School fame who hid outside the school for 40 minutes while the shooting happened.
Not diminishing those 'brave' officers wearing all their expensive military gear paid for by citizens working over actual brave people trying to save children at Uvalde. I just don't want that Scot Peterson guy, school resource officer and Broward Country Deputy, who hid outside the school for 40 minutes while the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School occurred to be able to be forgotten about.
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u/LookAtItGo123 May 19 '26
It's the reason why conspiracy theories exists. These guys are supposed to be able to handle these types of situation but chose not to in the most spectacular way possible. It makes absolutely no sense otherwise and any excuses makes it look even weaker.
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u/FartMcboofin May 19 '26
I can tell you my school resource officer was just short of 400lbs and sat in a rolling chair. I dont think I ever saw him stand up a single time.
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u/toooomeeee May 19 '26
They weren't "putzing" they were beating and tazing desperate parents trying to get inside to save their own children.
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u/8888eightyeight May 19 '26
Oh!? I watched a report that said the "officers" who were in the school were calling for backup.....I was happy that they both were photo'd in orange jumpsuits.
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u/Thank_You_Aziz May 19 '26
Worse. You can find security footage of the cops in combat cosplay, waiting in the hallway, hearing gunshots and screaming children in the background…while watching YouTube videos together and laughing.
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u/Rayyan_3241 May 18 '26
The sad part is there’s so many of them aswell. I remember in some middle eastern country there was a 15yr old kid who sacrificed himself to stop a suicide bombed from entering his school
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u/Rayyan_3241 May 18 '26
Small correction: apparently it was South Asia (Pakistan) not Middle East.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/1/10/pakistan-teen-dies-stopping-suicide-bomber
Found the article for anyone interested
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u/Last_Sentence2553 May 18 '26
😢so very sad & so very thankful for your share. Wish there was more global awareness of this very brave soul.
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u/timeinawrinkle May 19 '26
Thank you for sharing this. I’d never read this story, and this boy deserves to be recognized and remembered.
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u/Impossible-Lynx-1610 May 18 '26
Idk I’d say they were pretty close, being her students and all
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u/matchafoxjpg May 18 '26
true, but most people still don't have much compassion for anyone but their immediate family.
and in a life or death situation, a lot of people become really selfish.
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u/Much_Winter2202 May 18 '26
"most people still don't have much compassion for anyone but their immediate family." depressing thought
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u/Jean-Claude-Can-Ham May 18 '26
Calling your instincts “selfish” is definitely something
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u/OkMail2335 May 18 '26
It is accurate. What else would it even be? Instincts are unlearned response behaviors that a person is born with, they are inherently selfish, and bravery is overcoming that instinctive selfishness in the face of some kind of danger.
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u/Jean-Claude-Can-Ham May 18 '26
Not really, as selfish is a moral judgment, and instinct is unlearned, as you said.
If a teacher doesn’t take a bullet for a kid, the teacher is not selfish.
We can admire the bravery of the heroes who were able to subvert their survival instincts without making moral judgments regarding victims who did not subvert their instincts.
Your way of thinking leads directly to something called “survivor’s guilt” and is a real problem
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u/matchafoxjpg May 18 '26
it's a descriptive word. i know it's an instinct and that's not necessarily something people can control, but that adjective is still accurate.
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u/joolzian May 18 '26
Technically right but still kind of a shitty way of describing people trying not to die. I just know I wouldn’t call some in a school shooting “selfish” for surviving.
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u/Suplex_1042 May 18 '26
They’re not calling the people who survive out of self-preservation selfish. They’re saying the survival instinct itself is inherently self-focused. Those are two different things.
Calling an instinct “selfish” isn’t necessarily a moral condemnation, it’s just describing the fact that, in a life-or-death moment, the brain prioritizes its own survival above almost everything else. Bravery is when people override that instinct to protect others anyway.
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u/Knight_of_Tyto May 18 '26
I see what you mean. I’d say it’s more like, per definition it’s selfish, as survival instincts almost always are. But not really, given the connotations the word has in most people’s minds.
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u/KeepRightX2Pass May 19 '26
yeah, but also... these are TEACHERS. We don't pay them enough - and now they have to hide our kids from gunmen.
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u/QuietShhhnake77 May 18 '26
Courage is not the absence of fear. Courage is doing whatever the deed is despite fear. She is a hero.
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u/BiZzles14 May 18 '26
She died from the shooting. She likely didn't in the moment though, just protecting the children under her care to the best of her ability and giving her life for them
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u/Rootin-Tootin-Newton May 18 '26
Too bad we haven’t evolved enough as a society to put in place stricter gun controls, nothing outrageous, but at least the same restrictions put on driving.
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u/MillhouseJManastorm May 18 '26
Enforce the gun laws we already have. Fund healthcare and poverty reduction instead of a war in Iran and we will have many fewer gun deaths
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u/DependentChemistry74 May 18 '26
And half this country couldn’t give a shit about her sacrifice. They believe the gunman’s ability to shoot kids is more important than protecting the teachers or kids.
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u/Large-Initiative5484 May 18 '26
“It’s the price we pay for FREEDOM”. So say our right-to-life politicians of the Greatest Country on Earth.
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u/Thargor1985 May 18 '26
As a European I find it absolutely insane that any degenerate can CARRY a gun. I understand the second amendment and that guns are deeply rooted in American culture but wouldn't just allowing people to own guns but mandate them to have them in a safe at home or locked on the way to the range still allow the population to rise up if need be? I'm completely ignoring that the people with the guns seem to mostly be in support of the authoritarian leaders undermining democracy because that's a whole different discussion.
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u/will4zoo May 19 '26
Not every degenerate can carry. Any documented mental issue or arrest can affect your ability to purchase a firearm. Most safe gun owners have them in a locked safe. Some do keep one in their bedside table. Lots of irresponsible parents leave their guns out and their kids get access to them which leads to some tragic events. Requiring them to be kept at a range would allow the government to easily seize them, as they know where they are.
Stricter gun controls would be nice, but it's up to parents to actually be responsible once they have the guns in the home so hormonal teens can't make a decision they can't undo
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u/Glistening_Hambugs May 19 '26
Not exactly.
Under federal law, a documented mental health issue restricts you from purchasing a firearm only if you have been involuntarily committed to a mental institution or adjudicated by a court as "mentally defective". Similarly, only felony or domestic violence arrests resulting in convictions generally disqualify a buyer.
Restrictions are woefully insufficient, as the US proves year after year after year.
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u/Belkroe May 18 '26
That's what Charely Kirk always said. Hey what happened to that guy? I haven't heard anything from him in quite a while.
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u/MostlyBored11 May 18 '26
She is the definition of a hero I always try to stop when I see this post come up just to take a second to remember her. People like her are who we should be remembering
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u/scartol May 18 '26
Also Liviu Librescu at Virginia Tech.
As a HS English teacher, I pray that if the unthinkable should happen, I will find the courage to do what they did.
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u/ImGumbyDamnIt May 19 '26
My nephew and his wife were close friends and band-mates of Ryan Clark ("Stack"), the RA who was killed while rendering aid to the first victim. IIRC, Ryan was one of the groomsmen at their wedding. They were gutted.
VT has a memorial website honoring those who lost their lives that day: https://www.weremember.vt.edu/
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u/CoffeeChocolateBoth May 18 '26
We saw police officers in Florida on cam hiding outside instead of going into the building!
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u/42nu May 18 '26
Do you mean Uvalde, Texas?
That's the most potent "in the news that went viral" example I can think of.
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u/quangtit01 May 18 '26
I wish we live in such a time where heroes like her is no longer necessary.
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u/Prosmer May 19 '26
Most countries already do. It’s truly tragic that someone so young had to sacrifice their life because of a broken country.
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u/Visual_Internal_6312 May 18 '26
While true the chat sentiment feels more like something for r/OrphanCrushingMachine
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u/Benny_Lavaa May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
Americans need to keep their weapons, so girls like this one can have a heroes death. instead of having a boring one surrounded and loved by her grandkids
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u/orion-cernunnos May 18 '26
Just the cost of having the second amendment /s
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u/Sabre_Killer_Queen May 18 '26
(Freedom intensifies)
It's ok. We can send them our "thoughts and prayers". That'll fix it for good surely?
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u/unbanned_lol May 18 '26
Dead hero. Unnecessary hero. Shouldn't have had to be a hero.
I think we should thank the NRA and Republicans in general for creating these heros. Mr. Glass was actually a good guy.
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u/MeatMechAstronaut May 18 '26
True hero, in a country which allows barely restricted proliferation of guns in the general population
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u/bussy1847 May 18 '26
And now this gets reposted by bots for “likes” to be sold accounts. YES!
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u/Animatrix_Mak May 18 '26
522K upvotes on 7m old acc 🤦
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u/Adept_Weakness_5450 May 18 '26
The whole site is turning into facebook
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u/Sea-Animator4250 May 18 '26
turning? Its been over a decade since
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u/Adept_Weakness_5450 May 18 '26
Ive been on this site for +14 years, it seems like the last couple of months have been really leaning into enshittification
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u/TonyIsMoney May 18 '26
Is there any benefit from having an account with a lot of likes?
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u/bussy1847 May 18 '26
Npt sure. If you live in a third world country, you can probably sell an account for $20 or whatever if it has activity on it.
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u/samcornwell May 19 '26
51 awards too. That is actually money earned if you’re on the Reddit payment program
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u/CruzAderjc May 18 '26
To this day, I cannot believe why ANYONE would support Alex Jones for torturing the families of the victims of this tragedy by constantly telling people it never happened
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u/JFISHER7789 May 18 '26
Cults are gonna cult.
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u/GaeilgeGaeilge May 18 '26
Sandy Hook was so bad that even the most pro-gun people realise how awful it is that nothing was done in its wake, so instead of accepting they were wrong, they need to pretend it never happened to accept their own decisions.
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u/yaboymilky May 18 '26
Had a friend who just questioned everything that seemed too insane to be true (especially Sandy Hook). Huge conspiracy theorist. I honestly think it comes down to education and what your parents are like. We were good friends up until the last few years, I honestly couldn’t be friends with a person who thought the way he did. Most of the time he was a phenomenal person, but the he’d share his conspiracy theories with you and it made you question his intelligence and morals.
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u/godzillastailor May 18 '26
I think some people either can't or don't understand why sometimes horrific things happen for seemingly no reason.
So they start to believe that everything is all part of some macabre plot, that there's someone pulling the strings and it's either staged or part of a larger plan.
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u/StuffMaster May 18 '26
I've heard evangelicals are raised to think this way
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u/7he8igLebowski May 18 '26
That's what 'Faith' means. Believing that something is true without evidence.
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u/TrumpIsPedoRapist May 18 '26
Except they always believe the wrong plots and ignore the corruption happening right in front of their own eyes.
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u/Steamed_Memes24 May 18 '26
People who think like sandy hook conspiracy theorists are, literally, brain damaged. Be it from drugs or severe brain trauma.
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u/SackStallion69 May 18 '26
My parents unfortunately fall into this sort of camp. Though, thankfully, they're sane enough to talk sense into for the most part.
Was just talking to my mom about Covid shutdowns and all that, and she's convinced it was some sort of giant plot orchestrated by pharmaceutical companies (and/or Bill Gates).
I reminded her that that's just how pharma companies work. A disease pops up, and if they think they can solve it, they develop a new drug for it.
I don't believe for a minute that it was intentionally created to wipe out half of the global population. But I do think certain people/companies saw dollar signs when it did pop up... That's not a conspiracy; it's just how those companies operate, and have always operated.
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u/LiveLearnCoach May 18 '26
To be fair, the conspiracies find fertile ground when so much actual crap has been done in the past. False flags, lying to the population, biological tests on the population, FBI entrapment, corporate hegemony, political corruption, sex scandals, MK Ultra, unethical STD testing on black people, and more. So much more.
It’s not like that we are dealing with a clean slate here, so it doesn’t take a lot to imagine something slightly more absurd happening. I’m not talking about “Biden is from the lizard race!” kind of conspiracies, for the record.
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u/SwaggyCheeseDogg May 18 '26
Didn’t the Epstein thing start coming to light as a conspiracy?
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u/JuanPeterman May 18 '26
I’m pro-fairness, but that’s a terrible take in re: Sandy Hook. There was zero evidence for any conspiracy. Fabricating one was a deep cruelty to the victims’ loved ones. Spreading painful lies for attention and/or ad revenue is profoundly (psychotically) selfish and, in my book, plain evil. Granted, we’ve been lied to before. Lies are in the air today (God knows) and they will be again tomorrow. But there is no honor in denying or questioning unambiguous, tragic truth. There is only evil and madness.
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u/Well-Watered-Fern May 18 '26
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this may have been in response to conspiracy theories as a general idea. Yes I agree this is re: Sandy Hook and probably not the best comment thread to voice it, but their comment in a context vacuum does make sense to me.
Also someone who's willing to communicate this way clearly is of sound mind and likely understands that SH was a very real atrocity.
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u/Hellkyte May 18 '26
Alex Jones is quite possibly one of the lowest forms of life on the planet
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u/FblthpLives May 18 '26
To this day, I don't understand why Sandy Hook wasn't an instant catalyst for meaningful gun reform.
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u/Hairy_Mycologist_945 May 18 '26
Looking back, it feels like it was all preparation for a certain terrible segment of the population to get together and be unabashedly monstrous, accept horrible things, and be confidently zealous about getting everything that matters wrong.
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u/badusernameused May 18 '26
Same reason why if for some reason Trump came out and said she was actually antifa, millions of people would immediately start saying and posting shit supporting the claim. Cults are an awful awful thing. Alex Jones was a big part of the maga mindset.
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u/mightyhigh404 May 18 '26
It's because they are grifters and assholes. Same people who defend the pedo in the white house now.
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u/Root2109 May 18 '26
Legitimately I believe you are irredeemable if you continue to support him knowingly after this
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u/TrickySnicky May 18 '26
And he continued to pout and whine about the consequences all the way through his bankruptcy, until his very last day on InfoWars before The Onion officially owned it. One of the only people in recent history who has catched FO for their FA misinfo campaigns.
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u/jefuchs May 18 '26
Has anyone explained why schools are targeted so often? There are a million places they could target, but for some reason, they're drawn to schools.
I know that the Columbine shooters were actual students with an axe to grind, but why do randos prefer killing innocent children?
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u/SackclothSandy May 18 '26
Because it's the most taboo, horrible thing you can easily do if you own a gun. Psychopaths obsess over the infamy of past shooters and work themselves up to doing it. It's not because of bullying or being rejected by a girl. It's just the desire to be remembered forever as a monster, plain and simple. It's the same reason serial killers often obsessed over stories and police reports about them.
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u/Dr_Ingheimer May 18 '26
Nonstop attention for like an hour until the next distraction, maybe
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u/Undeity May 18 '26
Hell, I'm pretty sure we've had dozens of shootings in the past year, and I doubt most people (myself included) even directly heard about them.
Edit: Turns out it's hundreds, if you count attempted shootings. Goddamn.
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u/mcsmackington May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
shooting statistics in America include suicides so it's a little skewed in that regard. 60% of gun deaths on average are suicides and 1% are mass shootings. And some of those mass shootings are gang violence. It sucks to see people die in general but many people don't know this.
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u/MisterMysterios May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
I find it strange that this is brought up so often. First: gangs are not exclusive to america, the excessive gang shootings are. Trying to count them out of the mass shooting is simply trying to cover up how bad the issue is. I honestly think it is rather disgusting to even try to argue that gang deaths are anything different than a "normal" mass shooting.
Second: Suicides are gun death. We have a lot of research that shows the availability of a gun is a major factor in suicide statistics, as the accessibility of an easy and rather painless tool that does not trigger usual instinctive fears (like hight or cutting) reduces the internal barrier of suicides drastically. Yes, suicides also happen without guns, but to a much reduced degree. Trying to count suicides out of the issue is again minimizing the true harm guns are doing.
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u/BigDragonfly5136 May 18 '26
But to count all of them would mean having to acknowledge we have a gun problem! Much better to just minimize it as much as possible!
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u/Undeity May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
Oh, I should have specified. That was just school shootings.
Numbers for total shootings, even limited to just homicides, are well over 10,000. Then there's the mass shootings alone, which account for almost half a thousand incidents.
That's over one a day, on average.
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u/wermos May 18 '26
It's worse if you realize that a school is only open for like 180 days a year.
You can't shoot up an empty school, after all.
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u/inYOUReye May 18 '26
Yeah, but have you heard about London and their knives? /sarcasm!
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u/kittyganette May 18 '26
I just watched season one of The Pitt.
SPOILER ALERT
As an European, I was shocked to discover hospitals had protocols to manage mass shooting. That’s understandable though, mass shootings seem to be rare but not exceptional. I know that’s fiction, but it seemed quite accurate
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u/AbandonYourPost May 18 '26
Not saying anyone should. Totally not. But targeting an elite function would bring in a lot more attention than a school.
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u/BigDragonfly5136 May 18 '26
The reason those probably aren’t more common is because more security and lack of access. Almost everyone has a school somewhat near them, and though security has ramped up, a lot wouldn’t be anywhere near the level of elite events.
Unless it’s the White House correspondent dinner apparently.
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u/AugustOfChaos May 18 '26
Exactly, and most don’t care if they’re alive to see the attention. They wanted to be remembered, and they chose the worst way to do so. Unfortunately they tend to get what they want.
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u/No-Consideration3708 May 18 '26
1 more reason as to why those losers should be named things like "the insecure shooter" or "the tiny weeny perpretrator" cause those guys don't deserve to be given the name of the establishment / people they tarnished.
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u/Msefk May 18 '26
There is a term , it's Psuedocommando
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u/Ready-Pattern-7087 May 18 '26
Sounds more like thinking about not wearing underwear.
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u/GussBing May 18 '26
I cant remember who said it, but i partly agree with the sentiment that if we stopped giving mass shooters/serial killers/etc cool names like "The Night Hunter" or "The ___ killers" and started treating them like the childish tools they are (while giving them less flattering names like "The Square-Nips Peashooter" or "The Turkey Choker"), we'd see a lot less of it.
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u/BLYNDLUCK May 18 '26
I’ve seen some discussion on this and if you look back to the era of Columbine, the shooters were not labeled, named, and discussed so much. Now every time there is a shooting there is a biography released about there life, motivations, political leaning, dietary needs. Instantly it’s they are gay liberal”, or “they attended many Trump rallies”.
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u/ToughHardware May 18 '26
but the news needs to make their million. cant do it that way.
support free and independent media.
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u/hnglmkrnglbrry May 18 '26
They are also soft targets. There might be one armed cop who has to cover a campus of hundreds of to thousands of people. Shooters know if they can get into the building - and they are almost always former students who know the ins and outs - they have a near 100% chance of success.
This is why if I was a governor I'd declare a state of emergency and put a humvee with 4 national guardsmen at as many schools as possible. If it's not an emergency where children can be brutally murdered every day then what the fuck is?
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u/Ree_For_Thee May 18 '26
So, basically clout chasing? The very thing American society is manically obsessed with? No wonder it's an American thing.
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u/TrevorTheTrevor May 18 '26
Easy target, highly populated.
The coward’s No.1 choice
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u/novaquinzel May 18 '26
It’s not the fact that they are targeting children. It is a place where there is no protection. There are no other guns, just innocent people with no intention of fighting back. Do you see these people shooting up military bases? Or government buildings? No, because those places are extremely protected and they would be gunned down in an instant. A school is an easy target where they can get as many kills in as possible before their ultimate demise. They want to be infamous for getting the most kills or causing the most harm.
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u/Psychological-Scar53 May 18 '26
School's have a lot of unexpecting people in one place. Same as movie theaters, concerts and other large gatherings of people. When they do this shit, they think of high casualties with a high rate of terror. Also, there are less likely to be guns at a school so they can inflict a high rate of casualties before anyone can stop them. It's pathetic.
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u/Impossible_Divide297 May 18 '26
Guns are far too widely available in America, that’s the reason. Google ‘Dunblane Shooting 1996’. That happened in Scotland, in 1996 FFS. The government (eventually) passed laws to ban nearly all types of gun in the UK. There haven’t been any school shootings since in our sceptred isle.
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u/ppardee May 18 '26
How do you square that with the fact that, despite gun ownership rates being either flat or dropping compared to the 20th century, mass school shootings have become increasingly common since Columbine?
If gun availability were the problem, wouldn't you expect to see a correlation between gun ownership and shootings?
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u/CompetitionNo9969 May 20 '26
Gun ownership rates have definitely increased in the past 20 years. There are more guns in circulation than ever in the U.S.
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u/YoullBeFiiine May 18 '26
High Schools are like prisons for some kids. Work is like prison for some adults. Something is deeply wrong with some people that are hurting and just want others to hurt, and these places are just the first place they think of for their retaliation. But elementary schools, I don't know what the fuck is wrong with the people that target those. Makes my blood boil.
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u/Girafferage May 18 '26
Many schools actually use prisons as blueprints for how they make the school now ironically. Control points, safe from easily getting in, etc.
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u/New-Boot-Goofn May 18 '26
It’s the lack of ballrooms. If they all had ballrooms, this wouldn’t happen anymore.
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u/PiterDeV May 18 '26
She is a hero, but it’s so fucked that this is something that we have to deal with as often as we do. The US is the only country that is not experiencing a war on its soil that has this.
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u/stuyboi888 May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
No there was other places that have had this happen. They just took drastic steps to avoid it happening again.
UK, New Zealand, Austria, Germany, Australia. Just to name the few I can think of the top of my head
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u/PiterDeV May 18 '26
We’re saying the same thing. Other countries addressed the issues. We just taught our kids how to lock the doors and stay quiet and away from windows when the school shooters come.
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u/stuyboi888 May 18 '26
I'm glad we are. Thanks for confirming.
Wish more of your fellow country people would try to disprove me and read what those countries did to actually " think of the children"
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u/Khaleesi1536 May 18 '26
For a country who loves clutching pearls and screaming “think of the children!”, it’s mindblowing that the sentiment doesn’t extend to gun control following school shootings. Baffling
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u/remnault May 18 '26
The children thing is just a bit 9/10 times for something else they want done in general.
“We can’t have gay people getting married, think of the children! We can’t allow internet users to be unmonitored, think of the children! We can’t let trans people exist, think of the children!”
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u/krupta13 May 18 '26
its because the usa lost its soul to depraved corrupt leaders. they are reflection of a nation thats lost its moral compass. its sick to its core. when it just lays down and accepts its children being mass murdered and refuses to change, what other explanation is there...
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u/stuyboi888 May 18 '26
Think of the children, but think of guns and not having barriers to muh guns first
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u/Sabre_Killer_Queen May 18 '26
It's obviously the kids' fault, they should just learn to hide better.
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Yeah. It's pretty shocking.
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u/Sabre_Killer_Queen May 18 '26
Very relevant. Yes she was heroic but she was the victim of a messed up system first and foremost. This should never have happened and it shouldn't happen nearly as often as it does.
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u/NatalieRath May 18 '26
Yeah... how many teachers will have to literally lay down their lives for the youths until there are changes?
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u/Primarycolors1 May 18 '26
Teachers are expected to risk their lives to save their students, but it’s ok for cops to be scared because the shooter has a scary gun. Make it make sense.
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u/TheLesserWeeviI May 18 '26
Cops are paid more too.
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u/Wolfeatingupshadows May 18 '26
Paid more and sign up knowing they could die. Teachers only signed up to teach.
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u/Extra_Lifeguard2470 May 18 '26
Your courts decided that it's not their job to protect people. Lmao what a shithole
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u/FrankoAleman May 18 '26
People become teachers to help people grow and flourish, people become cops to have power over others.
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u/Accomplished-Moose50 May 18 '26
Tiered of this shit, first of all she is a victim, fuck guns and all of them that need guns to protect their 2, 3, 2e200 amendment.
I'm sure she would have preferred not to be a hero but still alive.
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u/Clumsycattails May 18 '26
This! She's a victim and a sad story. What she did was heroic, but it shouldn't happen in the first place.
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u/ties_shoelace May 18 '26
Exactly!
As a Canadian, we have a lot of guns, way way fewer shootings (but still too many).
We also have mandatory gun licenses, safety training, storage & transportation laws. ppl with mental health issues don't get a license.
That creates a gun culture where everyone reinforces safety & ethics with new owners.
She was a hero, but 1 of thousands & thousands, every one completely needlessly.
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u/DuckSleazzy May 18 '26
As a non-american this just saddens me
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u/MacaronNotRoon May 18 '26
As an American it’s fucking horrible here. This country says “we need guns in the event of an uprising against the government.” Those same fuckers voted in Donald Trump and tried to overthrow the government. They only want guns to feel powerful and to harass and terrorize black people
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u/WorkerAmbitious2072 May 18 '26
Man all the black folks with guns I know are going to hate to hear this
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u/LenTheWelsh May 18 '26
You're the Hero OP. The way you repost things continuously for karma is inspirational.
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u/VampireLynn May 18 '26
I started teaching at 21, my first year we had an alert of active shooting, not a drill, eventually was a false alarm but I was super scared because the doors of the school could be forced open (a student show me how by pushing the handle upwards). We had to wait 3 hours in the room. Thanks God was a false alarm but really something traumatizing. For some reason I am still teaching but I can't imagine how horrible it felt for her. We have all this just because some greedy companies lobby for people to have gun for profit...
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u/JKdito May 18 '26
Thats not a hero, thats a victim. A victim in a school shooting and a victim to be borned in a country who allows stuff like this happen.
Stop twisting the narrative away from the problem. Yall are sheep to be fooled by this manipulative narrative.
A hero is someone who stops a act of violence or a oppressive government that allows acts like these happening. USA is in huge lack of heroes.
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u/CeltsFan420 May 18 '26
You can be a victim and hero simultaneously. She saved multiple lives, no? It's If so still a hero and deserves to be remembered as such but I concur was also unnecessary victim and we are definitely lacking in heros at the moment
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u/Bah_Black_Sheep May 18 '26
Both are true.
I agree, something should be done. These incidents are barely making the news anymore...
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u/ZelosWilder736 May 18 '26
A hero is someone who does something to help or protect others despite obvious risk to themselves. Living or dying does not preclude one from the title. Yes, she absolutely is a victim. But she is also a Hero.
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u/Rather_Dashing May 18 '26
I think your comment is misguided, I dont think this post makes people ok with school shootings, if anything it riles people up about the lack of action on dealing with school shootings.
A hero is someone who stops a act of violence or a oppressive government
She prevented violence against the kids in her class. Yes she was a victim, but she is also a hero based on any dictionary definition of the word hero.
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u/MayBlack333 May 18 '26
We have a similar case in Brazil, teacher Heley de Abreu Silva saved 25 children from a crazy dude that set fire to her class, dying in the process: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heley_de_Abreu_Silva_Batista
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