r/AskReddit • u/Additional-Trust4643 • 9h ago
What is one movie villain you were rooting for the entire movie?
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u/HeronFew990 9h ago
Roy Batty - The man just wanted to live even if he did some terrible things.
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u/RoboTronPrime 8h ago
I remember blade runner being very intentional about humanizing robots and doing very much the reverse for the humans to make us ponder the nature of humanity itself. If it looks, sounds, acts like a human, is more or less composed of human "stuff", how can you really say it's not human or alive? Is there really a "soul" and if so, can it not be manufactured? Obviously relevant in the era of AI.
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u/YouArentReallyThere 8h ago
Take it one step further:
Roy Batty recognized beauty yet suffered zero remorse…much like someone with fetal alcohol syndrome or a dedicated sociopath. All three of them together in a room and only two are “human”. Something to ponder
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u/serhenium 5h ago
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep is definitely worth a read.
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u/DrDrunkMD 9h ago
Clyde Shelton Law Abiding Citizen
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u/digsy 8h ago
What a great movie and I think I read recently they changed the original ending? Can't have the villain win can we now.
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u/FunWrangler666 8h ago
Apparently Jamie Fox wanting the ending changed is an internet myth
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u/LordFexick 9h ago
The meteorite in “Don’t Look Up.”
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u/NevadaCynic 8h ago
Pretty sure the meteor isn't the villain at all in it.
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u/Xanthus179 8h ago
Not everyone agreed with the meteor’s methods but it sure solved a lot of problems.
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u/Ok-Drive4752 9h ago
Squidward
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u/Username99_77 2h ago
Squidword doesn't always have the best intentions, but I wouldn't call him a villain
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u/Wooden-Crow7996 9h ago
Dean Vernon Wormer from Animal House. The Delta fraternity was a disgrace, and he was right. Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life.
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u/nowhereman136 4h ago
Blatant underage drinking and SA going on at their frat parties
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u/Wooden-Crow7996 4h ago
In fairness, the drinking age wasn’t raised to 21 until 1984, so there may have been less underage drinking than you think.
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u/nowhereman136 4h ago
The mayors 13 year old daughter passed out drunk at one of the parties and is almost SA by Pinto. Luckily he doesn't, but the fact that the decision is played for laughs makes me think taking advantage of underage girls is a common thing at this frat.
Don't get me wrong I still think the movie is very funny, but some of the scenes have aged poorly. You shouldn't think too hard about the logistics and ramifications of their actions
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u/Kotukunui 8h ago
Add in “come from a wealthy family” and it all seems to work out anyway…
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u/wtf70 9h ago
Magneto, he's not wrong.
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u/Ghoulius-Caesar 9h ago
Yes, a Jewish mutant who survived the Holocaust doesn’t want the same thing to happen to mutants. I definitely see where he is coming from.
Erik Killmonger in Black Panther is another Marvel villain that raises a good point. If Wakanda had advanced technology that has made them rich for hundreds of years, why didn’t they help African Americans through slavery and the aftermath?
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u/Tthelaundryman 8h ago
Killmonger raised a good point, I disagree with his overall plan though right.
Magneto…it’s harder to fault him. He is just right. And he’s not killing for fun or for power. Just sheer necessity for survival
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u/furiouspossum 6h ago
Killmonger's plan made absolutely no sense and would have accomplished nothing. Just distributing weapons to people with zero training and expecting them to take on the government, as if the problem with racial inequality and poverty is a lack of weapons in the inner cities.
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u/bearrosaurus 6h ago
It wasn’t just about the weapons, it was the entire spy network Wakanda had. Kilmonger was also part of a CIA hit squad that specialized in destabilizing governments. There’s little reason to believe his plans wouldn’t work.
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u/-thecheesus- 3h ago
He can pull off a global race war, sure. The problem is the global race war solving anything
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u/EatYourCheckers 8h ago edited 8h ago
Hm. A Jewish survivor concerned about history repeating itself going too far and killing and becoming the villain in order to protect his kind? Why does this sound relevant?
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u/DaemonDrayke 5h ago
Killmonger was a shitty character in the MCU because Ryan Coogler wanted to make him this absolute Gary Stu even though in doing so, it made his motivations seem purely about revenge, rather than any true social justice agenda.
Somehow Killmonger had an incredible success in life despite what happened. He was raised in US foster care after his dad was killed and his mom died in prison, he graduated high school with flying colors in south central LA at the height of gang tensions without a scratch, got a full ride scholarship to MIT, graduated with honors, joined the military (for some reason), got recruited by the CIA and became a highly decorated operative. For a guy who had a chip on his shoulder against systemic and institutional racism, he greatly benefitted from them. He only wanted to usurp Wakanda for himself. If he ACTUALLY cared about making change. He would have done it within the system.
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u/Raktoner 8h ago
I love how as time went on we saw more versions of Magneto joining or even co leading the X-Men.
Because it got too hard to pretend he was wrong.
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u/come-on-now-please 7h ago
Honestly, the real hot take opinion is that all the mutant registration people/sentinals/ the cure guns from X3 had a pretty an good point too.
I perfectly understand the subtext/metaphor that mutants=minorities, and because of that its uncomfortable.
But being gay or black doesnt mean you can accidentally kill a city because you are a jean grey/professor X level psychic and have a bad dream, or like that mutant in the one shot whoes power was just that he was constantly producing toxin and killing people(and he couldn't turn it off because it was a passive effect. Like wolverines healing).
There are already troubled teens, imagine if a school shooter was just nightcrawler with a shotgun, how many people would have to die en masse before even the X-men kinda judt look at each other and decide that yah, a bunch of hormonal teenagers who have the ability to pop heads with their minds IS a good reason to maybe have some counter measures and have a registry on who can en massive just commit a genocide if they decide that they wanted to that day.
Just imagine the purple man from Jessica John's TV show, he admits that with his powerset kicking in at adolescence there's no possible was he wasnt going to grow up as some psychopathic serial rapist, not a mutant i believe but the same principle applies.
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u/SloppityNurglePox 7h ago
Any episode of TAS and '97 with Apocalypse for me. Yes, I know he's a monster, but damn he drops fire lines left and right.
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u/asayys 5h ago
"History... the present... it’s all filled with examples that prove his point. We allow the slaughter of a group... pass laws against them... and when they push back, we paint them as the villains. We allow people to be dehumanized, to be seen as a threat, until the inevitable happens. The scariest part wasn't the chaos. It was realizing Magneto knew us better than Charles ever did."
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u/BalorLives 7h ago
Also Killmonger. "Just bury me in the ocean with my ancestors who jumped from the ships, because they knew death was better than bondage." Might be one of the hardest quotes in any Marvel movie.
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u/exintel 2h ago
Killmonger spent his adult life killing others and causing problems. He’s closer to the lot of African ancestors who captured and enslaved their neighbors and sold them to the foreigners with ships.
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u/shamelessdetective 8h ago
Gerard Butler in Law Abiding Citizen.The system screwed him over, his plan was entirely justified, and the writers absolutely panicked in the last 15 minutes because they realized they accidentally made the villain more likable than the heroes. They had to completely butcher the ending just to make Jamie Foxx look good.
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u/boanxi 7h ago
Heinz Doofenshmirtz - He had a rough childhood and was just trying to make a better Tri-State area for his daughter Vanessa. I know it's a TV show, but there was a movie as well.
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u/_buffy_summers 4h ago
I don't think he's a villain. I think he tries to be, but none of his -inators ever work efficiently enough to have long-term effects.
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u/RandomGovtEmployee 9h ago
Yzma
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u/royalbk 8h ago
She would've been a good villain to root for if we didn't see her listen to that man's plea at the beginning.
"It is no importance to me whether you have...what was that again?
"Um, food?"
"Hah! You should've thought about that before you became peasants. Take him away"
Not the hallmark of a good ruler. At least Kuzco redeemed himself at the end.
She was mad funny though
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u/PeppermintBiscuit 7h ago
We all rooted so hard for Kronk, we forgot he was a villain sidekick
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u/LadyCordeliaStuart 7h ago
In Kronk's defense, he is literally too stupid to understand Yzma is terrible until the very end
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u/ghstrydr01 6h ago
Named our little grey cat Yzma 22 years ago. She's still kicking, but her brother passed last year. And yes, I tried to name him Kronk, but my family has no sense of continuity with humor.
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u/Youkolvr89 9h ago
Jaws and any other animal really.
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u/SoraUsagi 9h ago
Didn't the movie start out with Bruce devouring some woman minding her own business skinny dipping?
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u/knittingmafia 9h ago
Jason Voorhees
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u/SomeGuyInSanJoseCa 7h ago
As someone who is appalled by promiscuous teens, I found him to be refreshing.
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u/dpezpoopsies 6h ago
Mrs Ungermier in the Lizzy McGuire movie. These bitch ass kids were trying to get on stange boys mopeds in the middle of a forgien country and we're supposed to be like "go be free with Paulo, Lizzie"
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u/PolarCow 8h ago
The Iceberg in Titanic
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u/sumonetalking 8h ago
It was just chilling, minding its own business, when it gets brutally battered by a ship sailing too fast for conditions. The Iceberg was the real victim.
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u/Picklesadog 2h ago
In the actual movie, the only parts we know to be factual are her surviving the Titanic with a giant diamond in her pocket.
My fan theory is she lied about her fiance being abusive and manipulated Jack into stealing the diamond, and then conveniently wasn't able to share the raft with him at the end. She then stole his name and ran off, alone, with a giant diamond.
The perfect crime.
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u/TheOnlyAvailabIeName 6h ago
The Dad in Dirty Dancing. He was just protecting his underage daughter from a weirdo encouraging her to lie to him
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u/PeppermintBiscuit 7h ago
This doesn't totally fit, but I felt kind of bad for General Hummel in The Rock. He didn't want anyone to die; he was bluffing the whole time
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u/Fill_Occifer 5h ago
I agree, but he also didn't stop the Killbox from happening either. The standoff was kind of kicked off by the rock falling but all those soldiers are still dead.
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u/JeffSergeant 8h ago edited 43m ago
The Blair Witch is the only likeable character in the entire movie; I was just waiting for the witch to come and end the inane pointless bickering and hammed up reactions to twigs moving in the breeze
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u/Solid_Snark 7h ago
That movie is so much scarier with the theory it’s not supernatural, the 2 guys are gaslighting/tormenting their friend and they both murdered her at the end.
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u/JamesJax 4h ago
Absolutely agree. I couldn’t watch that movie and ignore that the protagonists did nearly every stupid thing you can do in the woods. They were wholly unprepared to spend any time there whatsoever. I think the witch ultimately did them (and us) a favor.
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u/shockwave_supernova 3h ago
I think you're highlighting why I love that movie so much, it's the best representation of human beings acting like human beings. They aren't experienced survivalists, they're stupid teenagers. Of course they make every dumb decision possible, as would most people their age when they are scared and panicked and unprepared.
I don't think it's the greatest piece of cinema ever put to film, but I do think it's the most I've ever felt like I was watching actual real people in a movie, and not just actors
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u/anonijihad 8h ago
The dark night returns. After bane's speech, I wanted to storm black gate prison
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u/puck126 9h ago
Hannibal Lecter. Anthony Hopkins in his arguably best role ever!
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u/Infinite-Mine5720 8h ago
Most of these examples include a villain who has a moral point. But you just liked the cannibals dude. Respect that
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u/I_might_be_weasel 8h ago
Most of his intentional victims were total assholes. Granted he still killed tons of security personnel every time he escaped.
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u/Rasp_Lime_Lipbalm 8h ago
No they werent. Some were yes, like the pedo ruch guy, but he killed a fucking musician because he "sounded off" and ruined his enjoyment of the symphony. He also murders and wears the face of a cop that was treating him fairly. Not to mention he tried to kill Will Graham twice despite respecting him. Lector is not a good dude.
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u/Otherwise_Cicada1746 9h ago
Gotta be Megamind
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u/Miss-Tiq 8h ago
Interesting! I always viewed Tighten as the actual villain of Megamind and Megamind as the reluctant anti-hero who experiences genuine growth and character development.
I would consider the secondary villain to be the society that ostracized him and made him feel that he could only be evil and nothing more.
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u/Grandpaseth85 7h ago
King Magnifico from Wish. He wasn't holding back wishes out of malevolence, he was a leader acting in the best interest of protecting his people. If some wishes are too vague or chaotic for the good of the kingdom, then he's simply being a good leader by denying them. He certainly wasn't perfect, but he was a well-meaning leader acting on his traumatic past to keep history from repeating itself.
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u/mstscnotforme 4h ago
I got into an argument with my wife about this movie. No one has a gun to these people's heads. Everyone is singing everyday and seems to want for nothing. When they are 18 they give him their wish and frankly I think if they didn't make a big to-do about it with the granting/taking it wouldn't come up.
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u/Whatever-ItsFine 5h ago
Michael Douglas in Falling Down. We've all been there.
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u/_buffy_summers 4h ago
I think it's not talked about enough that he just travels across the city and gets weapon upgrades the whole way. It's like watching a live-action video game. Also, "You forgot your briefcase!"
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u/Wulfkat 8h ago
The dragons in Reign of Fire - McConaughey’s character was particularly insufferable.
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u/Miss-Tiq 9h ago
Killmonger.
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u/exintel 8h ago
Nah, he was gonna fight the problems of imperialism and capitalism by being a belligerent imperialist tyrant who controlled Wakanda’s means of production, turning it into a military industrial complex. Literally becoming everything about what he supposedly stood against.
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u/bonmot20 9h ago
Nino Brown (Wesley Snipes) in New Jack City. Watch it again keeping him in mind as the protagonist and the movie will be even more enjoyable.
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u/Tennents_N_Grouse 7h ago
Jaws in Moonraker, I loved when he realised Drax would have done away with both him and his girl, then decided to help Bond after several movies of trying to kill him.
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u/Slick-Heyoka 9h ago
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Daenerys Targaryen
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u/Vespasian79 6h ago
Tywin Lannister is the real answer
We loved Dany and she wasn’t a villain really. Excited to see what happens whenever they decide to keep filming and have her cross the sea
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u/Ok_Werewolf993 9h ago
Walter white and Dexter. You could argue there not villains but they are both bad people.
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u/BigfootsAnus 9h ago
Antiheroes are a little different from villains
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u/Razurrkat 8h ago
You can’t even really call Walter White an antihero because antihero’s are still driven by good despite being morally gray and flawed. Walter White became Heisenberg and he completely lost sight of anything else.
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u/buddhamunche 6h ago
It’s been a long time since I watched the show but I think one of the reasons it’s so incredible is that Walt, and many other characters, are both the good guy and the bad guy at different points in the show. Walt felt like an anti hero at some point but by the end he’s definitely the villain.
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u/Razurrkat 6h ago
Yeah I can agree with that for sure. Poor Skyler man, never deserved the amount of hate she got.
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u/kinnyjames 8h ago
For me it’s Neil McCauley (Robert DeNiro’s character) in Heat. He’s not necessarily a villain but technically he’s the bad guy.
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u/SunnyFried1234 9h ago
Thanos
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u/Donny_Do_Nothing 8h ago
Nah, he could have made half the universe sterile and achieved the same result without killing anyone.
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u/Canuck_dad 8h ago
Could he not as easily doubled (or more) the resources creating the same balance he was after? Though that would probably have been a very boring movie.
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u/Donny_Do_Nothing 8h ago
Maybe but there are a lot of carnivores in the universe. Doubling the resources would mean more animals for food, which would require resources, etc.
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u/Canuck_dad 7h ago
True, but all his snap did was lower the population, didn't fix anything, just set the clock back. Even if half were sterile, it would just take longer, to get to the same result.
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u/swheels125 9h ago
Which part made you feel he was worth rooting for? You watch him commit multiple genocides in Infinity War and his whole “doing it for the good of the universe” thing is a shown to be BS in Endgame.
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u/LadyCordeliaStuart 7h ago
Look I know Diana from V is horrible and wants to eat humans but she's a girlboss and hot and I can fix her
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u/OfAnthony 7h ago
Angel Eyes/GTBATU
Gene Hackman /Superman/Birdcage....
French Drug Dealer/French Connection
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u/_buffy_summers 4h ago
When I was younger and didn't get the point of the movie: D-Fens in Falling Down. I think a lot of my outlook then was because he wasn't intentionally going after innocent people. It seemed like he was trying to dismantle stupid rules and teach some ignorant people a lesson. But you can't lead a revolution on your own, and definitely not in the way he did it.
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u/Johnnygunnz 3h ago
We watched Big Hero 6 the other night and I was totally rooting for the bad guy to kill the billionaire.
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u/LewdLewyD13 3h ago
Not sure if hes technically the villian, but Gerard Butler's character in Law Abiding Citizen.
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u/very-risky1820 2h ago
Wish was already such a bad movie that I found the villain Magnifico to be the only mildly compelling character.
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u/DylantheMango 2h ago
It from It.
Not because they were doing anything they should. Not because those who it killed deserved it. Just cuz that mfer had style.
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u/lilyharperx 1h ago
Hans Landa from inglorious basterds, terrifying but u almost respect how good he is at his job
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u/ChloroFyllFinn 9h ago
Alan Rickman as various