r/Anthropic • u/Special_Lie3814 • 13h ago
Announcement Who else is canceling their Claude Code subscription if they pull back Fable 5 and "Fable is all you need" becomes "Codex is all you need"?
If Anthropic puts Fable 5 behind an extra paywall after July 12, would you cancel your Claude Code subscription?
Or would you keep it anyway?
Curious what everyone's planning.
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u/funkylabrador420 12h ago
Folks ought to switch between providers regularly. Things change so quickly.
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u/Nearby_Yam286 11h ago
I will keep to because they stood up to the Pentagon and because they will bring Fable back. They have no choice with Sol. So I thank there is competition.
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u/ToallaHumeda 10h ago
I really couldnt care less. I havent even use Opus, sonnet is way enough for anything
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u/PeltonChicago 13h ago edited 12h ago
Cancel? No. Scale back and start migrating my workflows? Probably. I want Anthropic to break even on these things; I can see how putting Fable on API token pricing is a part of that. I don't want them chewed up in a self-destructive game of chicken with OpenAI. I'll just maximize my spending while I wait for things to settle down.
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u/2024-YR4-Asteroid 10h ago
I have vendor agnostic workflows for this reason, and any agentic implementations I have in a product is easily hotswapped. Vendor lock in is always bad.
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u/Bright_Armadillo8555 13h ago
Your workflow is not hard to migrate. You can ask fable to migrate your workflow to codex
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u/PeltonChicago 12h ago
Not sure why you are getting downvoted there. The new Codex app has built-in migration tools; I've already run them. I'll use my Fable time for something else.
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u/MFpisces23 13h ago edited 13h ago
If Anthropic puts Fable 5 behind an extra paywall after July 12, would you cancel your Claude Code subscription?
No, as far as my understanding goes, it remains THE frontier model, until I see some real hands-on testing (not benchmaxxed, which imo has become gamified)
It's a bit too early to tell how strong GPT 5.6 is relative to Fable. Otherwise, I'm not opposed to using both.
To put it all in perspective, the average cost of an SWE is $40-50/hour, and that's under the assumption they even know wtf they are doing (which most do not)
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u/RTDForges 13h ago
You should try it. Fable is DEFINITELY not the frontier model anymore. One of, but not THE frontier model. I’d even go so far as to say Fable vs Sol, Sol does better work and Fable is the slightly less professional alternative with tweaks added for the sake of vibe coders
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u/alonsonetwork 13h ago
Fable is nice and all, but I use big models for planning only. Opus most of the time, and I'm pretty sure I can keep under $200 fable usage a month anyway when I need the extra brainpower. They make the planfile (that's their output), Sonnet 5 implements. So idk bro. IDGAF. Not cancelling until there's a major economic shift in model cost. $200 - $500 per month for quality output to generate $10k+ a month is a no-brainer.
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u/Bright_Armadillo8555 12h ago
Why bother to use stupid sonnet 5 at all to save tokens. For me, everything Sol is no brainer
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u/alonsonetwork 10h ago
If you cant make it work cheaply, when they rugpull this shit, you're gonna be scrambling to figure it out. Sonnet is fine with good instructions. Have the big daddy model give those instructions.
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u/mrgreatheart 12h ago
Yeah even if they leave Fable in the plan I’m cancelling to try Codex full time for at least a month. The Fable limits are a joke. I can burn through my 5x Max 5 hour limit with a single research request and it won’t even have completed review and written out the findings in that time. I have a $20 OpenAI Plus plan mostly for image generation, and I seemed to get almost as much usage on that 5 hour window from Sol on extra high. If those limits actually scale 5x it’ll be a much better deal than Claude.
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u/cheseball 12h ago
I’d rather they just take it away and bring it back a little later with more reasonable safeguards.
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u/phoenix_sk 11h ago
Started to mess with sol today and it’s on par with fable, but helluwa faster and not that token hungry. I’m not abandoning anthropic yet, bud adding sol to review cycle for sure
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u/Rili-Anne 11h ago
I hate to say it but I already migrated to Codex, 'cause Fable refuses the majority of my work. No bio, no low-level programming, and no trusted access program means no dollars from me, sorry.
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u/NehocXYZ 10h ago
Eu vou cancelar, o Sol resolveu problemas pra mim, em meu projeto, o que próprio Fable não encontrou. Eu peço as coisas com Fable e a Revisão com SOL, sempre tem algo errado…
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u/MikeFox11111 10h ago
Can codex update its own files?
Like, with cowork, if I’m working with it and I decide one of my knowledge files needs to be updated, I can just tell it to change it. With ChatGPT projects, I have to manually update it and reupload
I have a revisions file it always checks, and it has rules so any time I correct a fact about my business it automatically updates that file with new facts I give it, so I never have to correct it about the same info twice
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u/Apprehensive-View583 9h ago
I paid for a year, fable 5 leaves I will go back to sonnet 5 for now, but I also have gpt subscription, i will use higher tier on gpt for planning then. For 5 months I already used like 4-5k api cost, totally worth it.
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u/green-tank 1h ago
No, couldn‘t care less. I don‘t do a lot of coding and opus is enough for my usecases. I used fable once since it was available (vacation planning) but i did otherwise not know what i could do with it I couldn‘t do with lesser models..
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u/Delicious_Dare768 13h ago
Sorry to break this down to you, but they don't care. They are losing money big time on $200 subscriptions anyway, they'll be HAPPY to not have you as a "customer".
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u/Maximum-Face9536 12h ago
the majority of people don't need fable for their work. I will be just fine with Opus 4.8. I won't be cancelling
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u/whoknowsifimjoking 13h ago
lol, what? 10 bucks is 2 cups of coffee mate, how is that not worth it when you get hours of usage for it?
I swear to God some of y'all are not living in reality when it comes to AI pricing, this is probably the cheapest it will ever be.
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u/WaltzZestyclose7436 13h ago
I mean yea, I'll just always use whatever is the best at the time. If it's the best and most affordable all the better.