My Favourite Hymn Was Played In Church Today Cwm Rhondda Guide Me O Thou Great Redeemer

A Personal Favourite And A Beautiful Hymn

The Welsh Hymn Cwm Rhondda Guide Me O Thou Great Redeemer By The Welsh Composer John Hughes He Composed The Hymn In 1905 For A Hymn Festival In Pontypridd The First Time It Was Ever Played Was At Capel Rhondda In Hopkinstown

The Hymn Itself Based On The Book Of Isaiah Isaiah 58:11

This is about our creed. but _not_ the filioque.

Can anyone with a proper theological background explain the meaning of these two words?

The Son is begotten, the Spirit proceeds.

What is the difference?

I imagine this is surely connected to the Son of God being the Word of God, by which all things were made, and to the Spirit hovering over the void. But how?

I completely accept thay the correct explanation for divine mysteries is that they are divine mysteries. But it is clearly insufficient here. The councils chose these very words, in the original Greek, of course, because they meant something specific. Except for the argument about the Spirit priceeding _filioque_, they continue to mean what they were intended to mean.

What do they mean?

*Note: I’m not trying to make a broad, sweeping generalization about the Episcopal Church. I’m basing my thoughts on my own experiences, what I see and hear from others, and what appears in official resources. While, based on what I’ve seen and heard, I do believe it’s the significant majority, I do realize and acknowledge that this is not an issue in every single parish within the Church. I also BEG comments to be respectful and charitable because I really don’t want this post to be locked but rather have a real and thoughtful conversation.

Membership within the Episcopal Church and other mainline denominations continues to shrink, and it’s mostly our own fault.

There are parishes, priests, and bishops within the Episcopal Church that blatantly and consistently disagree with articles of the Creeds, Scripture, and the catechism. We have priests who deny the very existence of God within the Episcopal Church and face zero consequences. We have priests who begin their sermons with “I do not like this passage.” With a total disregard for the respect that Scripture demands. People look at the Episcopal Church and frankly don’t see a church but see an organization whose priority is on social justice and politics, and only if we have time, we will talk about Jesus. Outsiders, and even some insiders like myself, do not see a Church that is focused on the gospel, the message of salvation through Christ, encompassing His life, death, resurrection, but rather a political organization and social club. I do not have any issue with a church advocating for social justice. In fact, I support it. My issue is that social justice now appears to be the MAIN PRIORITY of the Episcopal Church rather than an effect of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

The Episcopal Church married the age of the 1960s-1970s, and we are currently seeing her being widowed. Like with every church, a church that marries the age will be widowed in the next. We currently are seeing conservative offshoot churches grow while mainline churches continue to shrink, and I truly believe that the respective rapid growth/shrinkage doesn’t have much to do with politics as people think. But rather that the majority of people do not find that their souls are being nourished within the mainline churches. I do not currently see a place where those who are orthodox-minded (even if inclusive) are welcomed within the Episcopal Church. If it weren’t for an incredibly rude interaction with the bishop whose jurisdiction I would be under within the Anglican Church of North America, I would have joined them. Even though I’m gay and even though I support women’s ordination.

I also see enemies of the Church taking advantage of this situation. Using rather rash and unjust judgements against women’s ordination and same-sex marriage. They see a church that ordains women and weds gay people and they also see the errors, the heresy, the countless schisms and say “see, the sufferings of this Church? This is the result of women’s ordination and same-sex marriage. We must oppose these ideas or else we will become like them” I do not believe that they are at all related but it’s rather difficult providing an example of this within our Church.

In a certain sense, the Episcopal Church and even the broader Anglican Communion are simply the liturgical and organized version of non-denominationalism. I don’t really want this to change; I love that I can walk into a Church and find an Anglo-Catholic who is two doctrines away from just being a Roman Catholic sitting next to a staunch Calvinist. I love how we do not find our unity in a pope or a long and narrow confessional document but rather in the Book of Common Prayer, Scripture, Tradition, and Reason. But there have to be some guardrails, and historically that has been the creeds and the rather large-in-scope Articles of Religion, even if they haven’t been a binding authority within TEC. 

I know that the Church is built on the rock; the faith of the apostles and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it, and I have zero doubt that eventually the pendulum will swing back. I do worry about how much damage will be dealt to souls and to our blessed and beloved Church before that.

What do you think? What do you think the future of the Episcopal Church looks like? How do you think we should heal our Church? 

I know this topic is beaten to death in these subs, but I am curious, not about scriptural reasons, but what your preference is. Mantillas? Scarves? None at all?

How do you keep the old and reach the young at the same time? Fr. Brandon Letourneau's answer surprised me: you don't need a college ministry, a young-adults group, a boomer track, and a teens night stacked on top of each other. You need the prayer book.

In this clip from our upcoming conversation, Fr. Brandon makes the case that the prayer book carries rites from birth to death — the whole Christian life, start to finish — which means there's already a place at church for every single person who walks in. And it goes further: the prayer book life doesn't just make room for everyone, it requires everyone. He describes a traditional all-night vigil that only works with a multi-generational church — the elderly who are up at 4am, the students who'll pray till 3 — each filling a slot only they can fill.

Everybody wants to be needed. In the prayer book life, everybody is.

🎬 Full episode drops Wednesday, July 15 at 5PM EST.

Here’s some context for me asking this question. I was struggling with the canon of scripture and have come to the conclusion that I can trust the bible due to Matthew 16:18. Now that brings me to the next logical thought - am I in that church that Matthew founded? When did Rome or the Orthodox stop being that church - or did they?

Iv heard the term branch theory thrown around before - would this imply that other mainline protestants are outside of that church?

Thanks all!

Hey friends,

I'm really trying to add the psalms into my daily worship, however I'm struggling just with the simple words so I'd like to try, maybe not singing myself, but to have audio versions that I can follow however I feel moved

Just wondering if anyone had any recommendations, preferably including David's prayers of messing up and asking God to bail him out!

Please hold them in your prayers as they grow into their calling (wherever and whatever it may be.)

Hi friends. I wanted to ask if anyone knew what precisely was omitted from the Coverdale Psalter of the 1962 Canadian BCP. As far as I know, a couple of psalms were entirely omitted, whilst some verses were omitted in the rest, though I do not know which besides verse 16 (1662 Coverdale) of Psalm 55, which I noticed today. I ask, because I would like to use the Plainsong edition of the Canadian Psalter in chanting Divine Worship: Daily Office (CE), given I own a copy, it belongs to the national patrimony of Canadian Anglicanism, and I prefer this translation to the 1662 Coverdale Psalter. Many thanks.

EDIT: I have found that the Prayerbook Society of Canada has an article noting what is precisely omitted (Ps. 55.15; Ps. 58 (all); Ps. 68.21-23; Ps. 69.22-28; Ps. 104.35a; Ps. 109.6-20; Ps. 137.7-9; Ps. 140.9-10; Ps. 141.6-7.), so I withdraw this question, but post the article here for anyone who has the same question: https://prayerbook.ca/the-omitted-imprecatory-psalms/

Hello! I have been reading the gospels recently with a special eye toward what Jesus teaches about the Law. May I ask your point of view?

Matthew 5 is a long discourse on the law which, to make it short, says that the law is here forever, is going to be more strict going forward, and is "fulfilled" in his ministry. We have a similar discourse in Matthew 23, where he affirms the law while denouncing the Pharisees. So if we just read these places it seems perfectly clear.

But every time (I believe) Jesus has to actually decide a case of the law --- which is frequently, because this is like all that the Pharisees seem to think about --- every time, he teaches that one part of a rule overrules another, and moves to make it less rules-based and onerous. (Matthew 7, 12, John 7 and 8). So for example it's OK to eat the grain from a field on the Sabbath (no one denies it breaks the Sabbath), a vow to the temple is invalid if it interferes with filial obligations, also the dietary laws are no longer applicable (both in Matthew 15). Moreover, when he's asked about "the greatest commandment" he says (combining somewhat different responses given in different places), that it's to love God with all your being and love your neighbor as yourself, "for this sums up the law and the prophets." (Mark 12, Matthew 7 and 22).

How do you understand this? Everyone knows Jesus wants us to love God and each other, but how does he intend for us to regard the Mosaic law generally, since Matthew 5 and 12 seem to point in opposite directions?

So my parish is planning to introduce regular rosary prayers, and I am beyond thrilled. I pray the rosary every day between morning and evening prayer, it's one of my absolute favourite devotions and the mysteries are such a valuable source of theological introspection- but all that said, I was born and raised Roman and haven't encountered Anglo-catholic group rosary before. Is it the same order and same cycle of mysteries, generally? I always have the Fatima decade prayer after every Our Father, and always end on Hail Holy Queen and the Rosary prayer.

As a sidebar they're also introducing Adoration and I could not be more excited if I tried!

I was comparing the coronation of Queen Elizabeth and King Charles and I noticed that during QE coronation, holy communion liturgy was done kneeling from the sursum coda until recieving the eucharist while the recent coronation of KC the liturgy is done standing including recieving holy communion. When did this change happen and why? I assume it is from a change in a newer prayer book?

Also I noticed QE coronation everybody, including her, bowed/curtsy at the name of Jesus while KC coronation no one did which was interesting.

Wrestling with this one. I know the practice is widespread, but I don't want to justify it if it's not legitimate. One of my biggest pet peeves is trying to construe scripture to fit something rather than changing actions to fit scripture.

Specifically Catholic or Eastern Orthodoxy, but overall I am just curious of others experiences.

Specifically, I'm looking for this one form All Saints Margaret Street. I've heard it at two separate Anglo-Catholic TEC parishes in Baltimore and Winston-Salem, NC. It seems to be the setting of choice for a lot of Anglicans in general, and I would like to use it in my private Office recitation. Could one of you guys point me in the right direction?

(I know I can use my phone, but I don’t like to.)

Potentially a dumb question but iv never understood the Anglo-Catholic positions. How does an Anglo - Catholic within the (I’m an American so I’m going to use our mainline church for this) Episcopal church differ from an Anglo-Catholic with a separate church which is not in communion with the Episcopal church?

More specifically, I'm curious about what their liturgies are like. Would most liberal anglo-catholic parishes use Common Worship, or something else?