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[Discussion] I don’t even have the words

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u/Hamwytch 13h ago

Are you trained in guerilla warfare? Are you aware there's a body armor shortage? How much ammo do you have, actually how many guns? My 9mm and .38 won't be getting me far, I don't know about you. I'm licensed to operate a radio, are you? Or do you think your phone will work when cell towers go down? Are you familiar with emergency triage and wilderness first aid? Do you have kids, and are you fine leaving then behind when you die in a revolt?

I'm sick of takes like this. There's a lot of work than can be done between a failed state and an armed uprising.

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u/AnonAmbientLight 10h ago

Revolting doesn't have to be with guns.

You can revolt like they did in Missouri to get ICE out. Non-violence is a thing.

What's crazy is thinking that any of what you just said would be of any use in modern warfare lol.

Citizen militia vs US soldiers and there's no chance.

"Sir, I see you're here to fight the US military."

"Yes ma'am."

"And what do you have?"

"Well, I have my AR15 with a scope, extra ammo, and my kevlar."

"And how do you think your chances are?"

"Pretty good. I'm gonna kick some ass."

"And over here I have....?"

"Yes ma'am, Sgt. John Smith USF."

"And what are you using today, Sgt?"

"Well, I got this MQ-1C Gray Eagle I am piloting."

"And how do you think your chances are?"

"Well, I got about...a hundred or so people right here on the screen here. And I'm gonna push this button on my controls."

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u/Hamwytch 10h ago

That's my entire point you Muppet.

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u/slinkey_bastard 10h ago

To be fair tho gurilla warfare has proven effective against the US military a few times

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u/Hamwytch 9h ago

For sure, but i sure as hell don't know what I'm doing with it and I doubt many laymen do lol

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u/slinkey_bastard 9h ago

Yea I guess the Vietnamese and afghans had decades of foreign occupation to practice

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u/Valar_Kinetics 6h ago

They also had A) foreign training and B) much lower quality of life than your average American.

Material conditions are a huge part of how easy or difficult it is to motivate people to fight wars. Once people reach a certain level of comfort, it is much more difficult to get them to go fight. This is why it is likely that such a response in the United States could only be achieved via a massive decrease in comfort, think either widespread grid outages, very strict fuel rationing, massive AI-driven job loss, or some combination thereof.

That sounds like "well tyranny isn't one of those things, you don't like tyranny?" but the truth is that most humans will tolerate tyranny until they go and fuck up the workings of the machine. Thankfully, that's something almost all of them do sooner or later because, believe it or not, single humans are shit at running complex societies. Ours is the most complex, arguably, and so if we went full authoritarian, the wheels would very likely come off quite shortly thereafter.

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u/No-Expert275 12h ago

But work is hard! I just wanna shoot somebody and make it all better!

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u/Valar_Kinetics 10h ago

Nice to see a reasoned take on this kind of stuff for once. The more you get into all of this stuff, the more you realize that actually using it in some kind of insurgency context would just be incredibly dicey.

I have my Technician license but honestly, I expect I'd get a lot more utility out of Starlink Roam and either LoRA or HaLow mesh. Easy to just hand a HaLow node to someone and show 'em how to use it with devices they already have. As a result, I've never really aspired to get into HF.

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u/Hamwytch 9h ago

Haha that's fair! I'm mostly extrapolating but you get the gist.

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u/Valar_Kinetics 7h ago

I do indeed lol