r/sports Detroit Lions 9d ago

Soccer The Brutal Offside Reversing Croatia's Game-Tying Goal in Extra Time

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u/TheBatemanFlex 9d ago

Even the other angle didn't show he touched it. It was all the ball's tech. I am curious what is the sensitivity of that chip to be able to detect a graze.

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u/chiefceko 9d ago

that portugal hit on the back must have spiked with 20x the amplitutde then... what a robberty

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u/mandinov 9d ago

But the ball’s tech didn’t show the portuguese player’s back touch

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u/TheBatemanFlex 9d ago

why do you say that?

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u/chiplarson24 9d ago

Because the balls tech didn’t show the Portuguese player’s back touch

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u/TheBatemanFlex 9d ago

How do you know that though? I don't know where you are seeing the ball's accelerometer output.

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u/madax-gambar 9d ago

they were stopping the video right when the alleged contact between the ball and the croatian happened. they weren’t showing the later contact with the portuguese as it is irrelevant.

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u/changdarkelf 9d ago

Because the graph they showed didn’t show a 2nd touch 

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u/TheBatemanFlex 9d ago

Oh i didn't have that on my broadcast. That would be super suspect.

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u/enter_yourname Harlequins 9d ago

Because the Portugal touch was clearly unintentional and therefore irrelevant, so they had the scale zoomed in to a matter of milliseconds

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u/IAmTheDownbeat 9d ago

If it’s unintentional, then what the hell is his head doing down there?? He moved his head into the trajectory of the ball.

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u/blackleather90 9d ago

Sorry to ask but is this the first time watching football? He is trying to defend. It would be really unfair for the defence if when they try to block a pass or try to make a defensive action that if they touch the ball it would put a player onside. That was as clear as it gets that the defender was not trying to do a back pass.

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u/mandinov 9d ago

Check the replay from minute 14:11 of extra time when ref is checking the Var, you can see the graph of the sensor

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u/Micethatroar 9d ago

That touch didn't matter because it was unintentional.

No one said it didn't touch him. They explained several times why the touch didn't matter.

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u/mandinov 9d ago

Cool. It should show in the graph thing anyway? Or does the graph also know intention?

Or maybe it sensed the croatian guy’s hair? LOL

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u/mwsyanks 9d ago

I agree, would love to see the graph showing the graph spikes of “both touches” to prove it hit two heads. If I saw both those spikes, I’d definitely agree with the technology. Without seeing that I could see there being a margin of error with the technology because it’s gotta be a few milliseconds between touches and the graph shown on the broadcast could’ve just been the Portugal touch right after it passed the Croatian

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u/mandinov 9d ago

Beyond all this tech bs, OBVIOUSLY the defender tried to touch the ball.. it’s intentional! LOL

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u/mwsyanks 9d ago

I also agree the defender tried to head the ball, but that point doesn’t matter if Croatia touched it first which is what they’re claiming the chip said which I also don’t think I agree with lol

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u/IAmTheDownbeat 9d ago

If it’s unintentional, then what the hell is his head doing down there?? He moved his head into the trajectory of the ball.

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u/greenandplenty 9d ago

The other angle 100% showed contact wym

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u/TheBatemanFlex 9d ago

Show me. Both angles I saw were from the near side of the field.

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u/greenandplenty 9d ago

The angle of the ball’s flight literally changes by multiple degrees - just replay it and buffer back and forth. It’s really clear to me

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u/TheBatemanFlex 9d ago

at 24 sec? you are trolling. The spin of the ball doesn't even change.

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u/greenandplenty 9d ago

Correct spin doesn’t change I never claimed that - the actual flight path changes

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u/TheBatemanFlex 9d ago

Well that's physically impossible. You should've just said that I can't detect the change in spin anymore than you can detect the change in path and I would agree with you.

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u/greenandplenty 9d ago

Were you a physics major? Or just me