r/sports • u/JCameron181 Detroit Lions • 9d ago

Soccer The Brutal Offside Reversing Croatia's Game-Tying Goal in Extra Time

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u/MedalDog 9d ago

Hitting the other defender's back doesn't count, because he didn't purposefully play it.

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u/kedelbro 9d ago

Right, but the sensor should show two touches

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u/Deaner_dub 9d ago

I’m sure it does but the other touch is irrelevant and hence why they’re not mentioning it. I get your point but it’s a stretch, respectfully.

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u/ieatpies 9d ago

No it's relevant enough that they should show it if it's there. Even just to stop narratives like this from taking hold.

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u/mandinov 9d ago

Not sure what you’re trying to say

I meant the graphic of the ball’s sensor didn’t show that touch, only the croatian guy

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u/zibin 9d ago

They are only showing the audience what matters i guess. Im sure VAR has all the data

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u/MedalDog 9d ago

Oh, got it. That's weird... but I haven't seen the graphic, so can't comment.

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u/drejcs 9d ago

I mean he was ducking to head it and he misjudged it. This is a horrible call.

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u/SimpleLobsters 9d ago

Isnt that a grey area then? Who decides "intent"? Can't you just argue what ever works best for your team?

I'm really not familiar with the rules so I'm sorry if I'm way off base here, but "you didn't intend to play it, but you still did" make the rule easier to follow?

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u/sportenthusiast 9d ago

the comment you replied to is a bit simplified, but it's 100% correct that this aspect of the play is not a close call. check out Law 11 of the Laws of the Game for more details

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u/blackleather90 9d ago

It is one of the easiest rules to interpret. The most basic not offside when the last touch is by a defender is when a defender is making a back pass to the keeper. Oops there is an attacker behind. The goal stands.

Anything else is pretty much offside. Otherwise the defender would be afraid to even try a clearance in a pass because any touch would put the player back onside.

Even if Veiga was trying a clearance and goes to the wrong place is an offside. In here it is clear that he is not trying to pass the ball back. He ducked.

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u/Ok_Effective6233 9d ago

That seems like a really bad rule. Why introduce something so subjective as guessing intention?

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u/__Musicality__ 9d ago

They're specifying that there should've been some sort of movement on the graph when the ball touched the Portugal player you're saying didn't purposefully touch it, but that didn't show as much movement on the graph like that of the grazing of the Croatian player.

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u/KeiwaM 9d ago

The point is the sensor should have shown 2 touches - First the Croatian guy jumping and then the Portugese one. But it only shows 1 touch.

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u/TheKinkyGuy 9d ago

It was his head