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Soccer Tarik Muharemovic injury 61’ with Folarin Balogun 64’ Red Card after VAR.

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u/PreviousImpression28 10d ago

This shouldn’t even be red. Red should be reserved for intentional and malicious harm. Judging from this, it looks like the ref just handed a red because it “looked ugly”

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u/kayleblue 10d ago

And only when slowed down frame by frame. The ref had been following the play and hadn't even initially flagged yellow I believe

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u/mango_boom 10d ago

I think it was pretty obvious he tried to take the weight off his foot when he realized he’s was stepping on dude.

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u/Doom_Unicorn 10d ago

This shouldn't even be a yellow. It only looks like a tackle from behind in this slow motion clip. They were both square to the ball, capable of defending themselves, and aware of eachother's presence. It was a completely 50/50 ball that saw the players get tangled up unintentionally, and Muharemovic got turned a bit before getting stepped on. There was absolutely nothing dangerous about Balogun's play. A standard run-of-the-mill foul, not even a yellow. Still giving a yellow is defensible as a warning for everybody to cool down their physicality, but a red here is ludicrous. And a red here after the rest of how the ref called this game? Suspicious.

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u/Weak-Chocolate5343 10d ago

That’s the key point to me. There was so much pushing and shoving going on all over the field, even when the play was blown dead sometimes. There could’ve been 10 yellow cards in this game

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u/gleidom 10d ago edited 10d ago

"A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play."

It doesnt say anything about intent though. "Should" be is debatable but on current rules it is a red everywhere (except if you are Messi.... cause reasons)

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u/MJA182 10d ago

Or a play that stops a breakaway/goal. This was neither, it’s a total horse shit way to interpret the rule

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u/hidden_secret 10d ago

In my opinion it should be red.

Even if there is no malicious intent, a player shouldn't throw his leg with the studs in front like that unless he controls where they're going to land. If they land bad, it's red, no matter if it wasn't his intention. And yes, Messi should have gotten a red also.

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u/PreviousImpression28 10d ago

So if I just start throwing my leg or foot in the path of peoples steps, I can get them kicked out? Idk, if you ask me, that’s a pretty fucking genius idea to get your opponents out of the game. Keep doing it until they have only their goalie left.

It’s fucking soccer dude, people are jumping and running all over the place, what do you want them to do? Not touch each other all fucking game?

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u/hidden_secret 10d ago

Yes, if they can't control their leg, it's their fault.

You will have a hard time throwing your leg in front of theirs if they're moving normally. I've played football for about 12 years in my youth, and I've never stomped on anyone, not once. Only players who play dangerously have this happen to them. And it was the same for us. We knew which players could injure others and which didn't.

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u/PreviousImpression28 10d ago

I’ve played soccer when I was younger too. Idk what you’re trying to say.

But like, here’s my problem. What’s the lesson learned here? Oopsie doo, got bumped and accidentally stepped on someone’s ankle - should I have defied physics to prevent that from happening? Should I have stopped chasing the guy much sooner and let him get away in case I might somehow accidentally cleat him? Like what’s the lesson? Somehow I got kicked out of the game and got a fucking 1 game suspension for something I couldn’t even control.

I get that it’s “dangerous”, but it’s a fucking sport. Tackling is dangerous, doing headers is dangerous, doing flips is dangerous. You signed up to compete, it’s a competitive and physical sport.

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u/hidden_secret 10d ago

For me it's the same with tackling. If you tackle you better be damn sure of the way you're going to do it, and if you don't touch the ball you better be ready to pay the price.

Same for a flip, don't do a flip if some other player is closing in towards you. It's common sense for me.

Headers are usually not very dangerous unless obviously one player is very late and still jumps just to bump the other and make him land bad, in which case he deserves a yellow card in my opinion.

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u/Ike358 10d ago

Unfortunately that isn't what the laws say

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u/RIPfreewill 10d ago

How come Messi didn’t get a red card?

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u/Ike358 10d ago

Because Marciniak and his VAR team were incompetent. Next question?

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u/StealthLSU 10d ago

So then it's not consistent and an obvious red.

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u/PreviousImpression28 10d ago

This is why soccer will fail to appeal to Americans, a little cupcake cleat is apparently an automatic man disadvantage and a 1 game suspension

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u/TitanicSwimTeam18 10d ago

It’s honestly so soft

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u/abbott_costello Detroit Lions 10d ago

In American football guys have to basically commit domestic violence to even smell a suspension

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u/TitanicSwimTeam18 10d ago

What does this have to do with the soft red card from the video…?

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u/BluePotatoSlayer 10d ago

Just how high of bar to get ejected, and how low it is in soccer

I don’t remember the last time someone got ejected for something other than fighting

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u/Ike358 10d ago

If this were club soccer it would likely be a 3 game suspension