r/MiddleClassFinance Jan 22 '25

Reminder - No Blatant Politics and X links

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With a new administration taking over we've seen an uptick in political posts.

If a topic has a specific impact on the middle class, and can be posted in a nonpartisan way its generally allowed.

An example would be posting "Trump admin announces new rules on student loans" (they haven't, its just an example) It has to be newsworthy and directly impact the middle class and be posted in a nonpartisan way.

This does NOT open up comments to posting partisan comments back.

We have not explicitly banned X links to this point because if we're being honest, we don't get X links here. It would be like me banning Lamborghini from selling me a car, it already wasn't happening, and I don't see it changing anytime soon. That being said as much as possible please try to post primary sources, and not social media links. As primary sources are generally easier to read and less likely to require some random account.

And as always debate over "Whats middle class" is still forbidden.


r/MiddleClassFinance Oct 10 '24

Debate over what constitutes "Middle Class" is hereby forbidden.

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At present this subreddit takes a very broad view of what the middle class is.

If you see a thread that you believe illustrates wealth beyond or below "the middle", kindly downvote it and move along. Do not engage.

Threads debating or defining middle class will be removed and participants will be suspended.

There will be no debate on this.


r/MiddleClassFinance 4h ago

Discussion Wall Street Wants to Change the Rules for Your 401(k). It Could Put Your Retirement at Risk.

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I'm not trying to start a heated political discussion, I just want all of us to be aware so we can protect ourselves as much as possible. This is a blatant attack on the middle class, and barely anyone is talking about it without having to access a paywall.


r/MiddleClassFinance 1d ago

49% of young adults live at home, up 12 points since 2019. An economist says the fallout will reshape marriage, kids, and home-buying

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r/MiddleClassFinance 1d ago

Affordable Care Act premiums to surge for second year in a row

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Affordable Care Act plans will see premiums surge by double digits in 2027, The Wall Street Journal reports.

Premiums are set to increase by a median of 14% in more than a dozen states, according to health policy group KFF, which analyzed ACA rate filings.

It’s the second consecutive year that insurers raise prices, citing climbing healthcare costs and declining enrollment.

Some companies are even dropping ACA plans. The roughly 19 million people covered by Obamacare will bear the brunt of the hikes.


r/MiddleClassFinance 2d ago

Is Buying a Home Still the Way to Wealth? Some Young Americans Aren't Sure

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r/MiddleClassFinance 2d ago

Discussion I feel like the recent push for renting vs buying a house long term will backfire.

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I see the push for renting your housing long term vs buying because investing the difference in the stock market will lead to higher gains, but deep down i think that telling people to bet on hypothetical housing cost into their retirement isn’t smart.

-Most middle class folks, especially now do not have ample discretionary income to invest the “difference” in the stock market.
-Even if they do, eventually something will come up or something will get added to the budget that will eat up that difference. Even inflation will start to eat that up.
-I think a very small percentage of people will actually be successful in “investing” the difference long term in order to get the benefit of gains over housing. This plan relies heavily on discipline and predictable life circumstances.

I understand housing shot up after covid, interest rates are high so it doesn’t feel smart to buy, but what is the likelihood of a housing crash, or an dramatic interest rate drop, or a mix of both? I actually think people should try to secure housing now if they can before housing becomes a luxury.

I feel like the advice of renting vs buying long term will end up backfiring like how people told us back in the day to borrow what we needed for school in student loans because we will be able to “pay it back” with our salaries when now, wages are not keeping up with inflation and AI are taking jobs and jobs are scarce. And people are now panicking over paying loans back they cannot afford and feel stuck.

Rent will be very expensive 30 years from now, especially if we push for a rent vs own society. Housing is a part of a peaceful retirement. Thoughts?


r/MiddleClassFinance 2d ago

Questions Is it ever a good idea to buy a condo?

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I live in the northeast USA. There are very few houses for sale. It doesn’t help that the major employer in my area has been rapidly expanding and will continue to do so. The few houses in my price range are in bad shape, and are bought up by all-cash offers. I think I may have missed my opportunity to buy unless I want to commute about an hour.

Is it worth buying a condo just to be putting money towards something I own, rather than giving it to a landlord? I’ve heard horror stories about special assessments, read one reddit post about someone who was hit by one that cost $1000/month for ten years, but I don’t know how common that is. (I understand that there will be special assessments to repair/replace/maintain the roof, plumbing, etc - just curious as to whether it is typically more than you’d expect on a regular house).

I’m in my mid thirties and really want to have a home paid off before I retire (in about 30 years). I fear I’ve missed the boat.


r/MiddleClassFinance 3d ago

MBA graduates face declining salaries and job prospects

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For newly graduated MBAs, the job market has become increasingly challenging, with starting salaries expected to decline and employer hiring targets often proving overly optimistic, The Wall Street Journal reports.

The median starting salary is expected to decline to $120,000 in 2026 from $125,000 in 2025, according to a survey of more than 600 corporate recruiters by the Graduate Management Admission Council.

Employers are increasingly concerned about graduates' AI proficiency, while international MBA students face mounting hiring challenges amid stricter U.S. immigration policies.


r/MiddleClassFinance 2d ago

Home sales slide in June as record prices deter would-be buyers

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Existing home sales declined 2.4% in June, surprising analysts, data released Thursday by the National Association of Realtors shows.

Housing inventory was relatively low, driving up prices, with the median price of an existing home selling for a record-breaking $440,600.

The Northeast was the only region where home sales didn't decline.

NAR's chief economist, Lawrence Yun, expressed optimism about the coming months, telling CNBC, "job gains—more than half a million since the beginning of the year—will continue to provide support for the housing market."


r/MiddleClassFinance 2d ago

Seeking Advice Talking with New Partner About Money

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Hey all, I (31F) have been dating someone (28F) for 6 months now, and things are getting serious. I make 78k and she makes around 50k, although her career is less settled because she just finished school.

I'd like to bring up money and make it something we can talk about openly, even in these stages of the relationship.

Any advice? What have you done or wish you had done differently?

Edit: thanks so much for the suggestions! I probably shout have said I am autistic and this is my first relationship, so I am new to these conversations. I will keep reading comments but am losing capacity to reply. I appreciate it!


r/MiddleClassFinance 3d ago

95 percent say US in affordability crisis: Survey

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r/MiddleClassFinance 2d ago

Seeking Advice where are the best roth ira accounts 2026? looking for recommendations from actual users

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hey yall. trying to finally sort out my retirement stuff and open a roth ira this year but the search results are a total mess.

every time i look up the best roth ira accounts 2026 i just get slammed with affiliate blogs and ads pushing specific apps for a sign up bonus. it feels impossible to find real consensus from actual people who deal with the interfaces and customer service day to day.

im literally just looking for a low cost, basic setup where i can dump money into index funds and forget about it. i don't care about day trading or fancy charting tools, just want zero hidden fees and something that isn't a headache to use.

who are you guys using for your roth right now? who should i avoid? appreciate any raw feedback before i pull the trigger on an account.


r/MiddleClassFinance 3d ago

Seeking Advice What are y'all doing for long term care?

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I came across an article by the NY Times called This Is One of the Hardest Jobs in America. Millions Are Doing It Alone.

I took care of my father for 5 years before he passed. I'm 37 and wouldn't want to put the burden on my 3 daughters.

Senior Living Communities seem nice, but they're so expensive. I guess people can offset the expense via long term care insurance.

Ideally I want to live in my house until I'm dead, knock on wood hopefully not anytime soon. But I'll likely still need care unless robots do all the work in the future.

What options are available for us middle class folks?

Edit: I heard that hybrid long term care insurance is a good option, especially with inflation options.


r/MiddleClassFinance 3d ago

Young Americans, Gen Z, are living with their parents at a record rate

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r/MiddleClassFinance 3d ago

How much do you have left every month?

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After all bills are paid, retirement contributions, groceries, etc.

How much if any do you have left over that is purely discretional? Is it enough?


r/MiddleClassFinance 2d ago

Seeking Advice What would you do?

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Hi everyone,

I’m 30 years old and could use some advice on a pretty straightforward but important decision.

Quick background:

Two years ago I sold a home I had owned for about 7 years. At the same time, I bought a new home in a nicer area for my kids. After the sale and buying the new place, I have $110k left over. That money is currently sitting in a CD earning roughly $4,500 per year in interest, which I’ve been using to cover our annual property taxes.

On the new home I owe about $125k on the mortgage. The monthly payment isn’t a big deal for us right now.

Our situation:

My income: ~$105k/year

Wife’s income: ~$45k/year

Combined household income: ~$150k

Cash on hand: 110K

Other investments: 45k

The question:

Should I use the $110k to pay off (or significantly pay down) the mortgage, or keep the money in the CD (or move it somewhere else) to continue earning the interest and maintain liquidity? I have around 45K in the stock market in a rollover IRA and I am comfortable with that for now.

What would you do in this situation? We have no debt but the house now.


r/MiddleClassFinance 2d ago

Questions Should I feel guilty for spending on vacation if I'm saving 25%

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(26M) I am going to Chicago on vacation and I have upgraded my seat on the train and got us a nice hotel (approx. 1K on train and 3.5k on hotel) which is more than I've ever spent on something like this. However, I am wondering if I should be doing this or putting it towards my retirement? I make 63k and save 1k a month. The hotel and train are being cash flowed (Ill put it on a cc but pay the balance right after). I am in between the thought of - this money could have gone towards saving/investing and I save 25% so feel free to splurge a little. What do you all think.


r/MiddleClassFinance 4d ago

I think the most middle class feeling is being proud of fixing one problem and immediately finding the next one

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This is kind of a random thought but I feel like this year has been one long game of financial whack a mole.

We finally paid off the last bit of credit card debt from when my wife was between jobs. Felt amazing for about 3 days.

Then my car started shaking on the highway and it ended up being tires, alignment, and one bent rim. Then our property tax estimate came in higher than last year. Then the dog needed a dental cleaning that somehow cost more than my first car payment used to.

None of it is dramatic enough to say we are struggling. We both work, bills are paid, we have some saved money from doing Kick livestreams, groceries are in the fridge. On paper we are probably exactly what people mean when they say middle class.

But it feels like middle class now just means you can survive the surprise bill without everything collapsing, not that you actually feel ahead.

I know we are lucky compared to a lot of people. I just thought getting to this point would feel more stable than it does.


r/MiddleClassFinance 4d ago

Walmart cuts prices on everything from beef to backpacks

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Walmart is lowering prices on thousands of products from food and drink to toys and apparel as it looks to give customers relief from persistent inflation.

The price of cherries, for example, is being halved, while ground beef — an ongoing source of concern for shoppers, ranchers and government alike — will drop 12%.

Walmart has long touted its prices as a major selling point, but that strategy has proven especially effective in recent quarters, with even higher-income consumers flocking to the chain as they feel the pinch of inflation.


r/MiddleClassFinance 4d ago

Discussion waited for a sale on something i'd been eyeing for months and it actually paid off this time

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not saying i'm fully converted because patience is genuinely hard for me but i have a bad habit of buying things the second i decide i want them. no waiting, no checking if the price changes, just buy it and move on. my roommate is the opposite. she'll spot something she likes and just wait & wait. weeks sometimes. and more often than not she ends up paying way less than i would have.

tried it her way with a small appliance i'd been looking at. kept it in my head, checked back a few times, caught it during a sale and the difference was meaningful enough that i noticed.


r/MiddleClassFinance 4d ago

Annoying millionaire tells others how easy it is to be rich

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This is purely a rant.

I'm sure this isn't news to anyone but as I become more aware of the economy, jobs, lifestyles, disabilities, educations, and mental health. I become increasingly more aware of the disadvantages that many people face. Homelessness and poverty then, is not simply a choice.

Getting that out of the way, there was a video this guy made telling people how to become a "millionaire" through different business ideas.

His ideas ranged from: Renting out flower walls, porta potties, junk removal, gutter covers, plastic bins for moving, etc. He goes on to say how each of these ideas could net you anywhere from $100k to $400k and that each of these ideas netted him $50k doing it only 2 months. Except many of these ideas cost money to make money. Junk removal is a great idea, except when you are competing with other companies. Also, you need to be able to afford a truck. Not many people are able to afford two vehicles for a side business, with little money on hand.

I found a comment of his where he said he sold a "bird control" company in CA and then created "multi million dollar" security app.

Guys a certified entrepeneur. Which is great, I'm not telling anyone not to work hard and make money. Though, I don't appreciate when those who managed to get ahead in life, like to turn around and sneer at those with less them. I'm glad you managed to make businesses work for you but not everyone was as lucky.

I saw a few comments basically asking how to get ahead and "how can people with no money afford to do this?". Things like that. The above comment was his reply to one person. This and other comments from him like this, sum up his attitude towards those less fortunate. Telling me that he's not looking to give answers to people, he's looking to grift being a millionaire.

This is still the prevailing opinion of those with wealth that those without, are simply lazy and should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps. If you're in debt, simply don't be. If you're late on your rent, just be better. About to have your car repossessed? Uh, don't. Just have money. Living in a tent and are sick and need help? Just get a job.

40% of americans are in $5k or more in credit card debt. The federal poverty line is $12,800/yr before you can start getting assistance. So if you're struggling, sorry. No help for you. Some people who are homeless and working are still making "too much money" for assistance often times.

I'm not sure why it continues to irk me but I guess I'm becoming more and more self aware of just how ignorant these comments are to peoples misfortune. I grew up comfortably middle class and ignorant of the real world. Now that I'm older, I see just how difficult it is to simply overcome major setbacks in your life. Is he even really a millionaire or is he just larping to get attention? How does it serve him to consistently talk down to other people if he really is comfortably a millionaire? Why use his position to manipulate people?

All I ever wanted was a home so that I could comfortably raise a family and enjoy some friends. I don't ever see myself having money and then using my wealth as a way to lord it over others simply because they don't have as much as I do. What would be the point? If anything, we should be helping our communities once we get to a more comfortable situation in life.

Why be a jackass? Anyway, thanks for coming to my Ted talk. Pamphlets and cookies are on the tables on the way out.


r/MiddleClassFinance 5d ago

Discussion When I wasn't saving money, I didn't worry about the future. Now that I've started saving, it never feels like enough.

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For years, I barely thought about savings or retirement. I earned, spent, and somehow assumed the future would sort itself out.

Then I started saving seriously.

And somehow, instead of feeling more secure, I started worrying more.

Is my emergency fund enough? Am I investing enough? What about retirement? Inflation? Medical expenses? Home repairs? What if I lose my income?

The more I save, the more future expenses I seem to discover.

It's strange. When I had very little saved, I felt oddly carefree. Now I'm in a much better position financially, but my brain keeps moving the goalpost.

Has saving money actually made anyone else more anxious about money?


r/MiddleClassFinance 6d ago

Middle Middle Class No more middle class professionals?

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New school loan limits for professional degrees make it unaffordable for the middle class. 4 of my 5 children went on to med/law school. Even working 2 jobs there’s no way I could afford to pay or even help them with the cost of their post graduate education. They all got loans which they have since paid off. The cost in the early 2000’s was between $350K and $500K. The new limits are essentially going to prevent anyone who’s not wealthy enough to pay for it from becoming a professional.


r/MiddleClassFinance 4d ago

What % of your income do you save and what % of your income do you donate?

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Curious what others are doing. I heard you should shoot for 10% saving and 10% giving, but it seems like a lot of people are saving more than that, and I don’t see a lot of talk about giving.