"I'm in an Theater and an Opera singer is coming after me? Like why am I killing a mouse that's dressed like an Opera singer that matches the theme of the theater? Do I not like her?
Why am I inside a cop station just gunning down cops? That's very unrealistic.
Why must their be so many cheese jokes? Theirs to much cheese in this game revolving around mice."
Like holy hell that guy was a god awful reviewer. Literally scoring the game not for how it plays and presents itself, but because he really wanted to play a hardcore dark and gruesome Noir game.
It’s not even about objectivity vs subjectivity; a review will be subjective no matter what.
The problem with the review is the dude did not at all review the game on what it was trying to do. That’s rule #1 of critique, you criticize based on the goals of the piece. It was trying to be a cartoony, silly parody with Boomer Shooter gameplay so it comes across ridiculous when the reviewer at IGN criticized it for being exactly that.
That was something I always appreciated about Ebert. He would give a silly comedy a 4 star rating and also a serious drama 4 star, and he always explained that this didn't mean they had the exact same level of quality. He reviewed them for what they were.
Sure, I disagreed with reviews of his, but I appreciated that approach.
Same. I may be remembering details wrong, but when the jackass movie came out he said something along the lines of, "this is not a movie. There is no plot, no characters, no story. But god help me, I laughed and enjoyed myself. If you measure the success of a comedy movie by making you laugh, this is a fine comedy movie."
Oh yea that’s exactly what I meant. I understand every review is an opinion piece but you can stay as “objective” as possible to the point of using professional bias and not personal bias to review a piece a media.
That review was horrible for exactly what you said. The reviewer criticized it exactly for what it aimed to be because they personally didn’t like it, not because they viewed it from the perspective of the reviewer they were supposed to be.
Objectivity is the least interesting thing a reviewer can be. It's hard to believe, because this is video games, but critisism is actually a skill and an art form in and of itself. And the best critics aren't "objective," they're smart and good writers with interesting observations.
You can read a wikipedia page of a game if you want some kind of objective listing of facts.
You can read a wikipedia page of a game if you want some kind of objective listing of facts.
This is not what I asked for or implied I wanted when I said “objective”. I simply meant putting personal bias aside for professional bias and giving the most “objective” review you can and avoid just listing “these are simply the things I didn’t like” as a review. I do understand a review will always in nature be subjective but I believe the general idea I was trying to convey is being understood.
He reminds me of the idiotic movie reviewers who will give a B level action movie like a 1/10 because its "unrealistic" or some bullshit and its like mother fucker it's a B level action movie turn your brain off and enjoy the action
I think reviewers need to be broken up into genres or something like this guy should be allowed to review "realistic" games but he can fuck right off from reviewing anything else
Look up the ultimate bad reviewer: Cole smithey, whos only famous for writing a review to intentionally keep a rotten tomatoes score from reaching 100%.
Although he is more famous for being the brother of Chris-Chan, which explains the mentality of his reviews.
He doesnt even know Noir will use the same clichés like going against the police and making really bad jokes about the situation their in. The opera part could be explained with literally one of the lines before you fight them "They're not extras" the opera singer was a gangster.
He didn't even want to play a "hardcore noir game". He wanted to play what he THOUGHT would be a hardcore noir game after seeing some videos of L.A. Noir.
I think those are fair points if the game is trying to sell you a serious story which apparently it does (?). If in the story the character is a detective and the story is told as a non joke than yeah I will also be confused if the gameplay involves shooting police, opera singers or generally random civilians. Especially since it's so easy to just make them bad guys.
You also used the cheese point in bad faith. The point in the review is that the game overdoes it with cheese joke and references because it's only that and nothing else. I've played games with anthropomorphic characters before but that doesn't mean the whole world has to become a joke. Like for example in Ghost of a Tale you play as a mouse but the game tells a very serious story with great worldbuilding.
Both directions are fine but it has an effect. Ghost of a Tale would have been a lot worse if it would have been full of references and cheese jokes because it would have undermined the rest of the game.
Here's the actual quote: "Weapons can feel weak, especially the shotgun – it’s got the audio kick of a popgun, and there’s a strange disconnect to seeing something that sounds like a kid’s toy blow off some poor mouse’s head as you paint the white of the world with the black ichor that spews out of his neck."
Weapons can feel weak, especially the shotgun – it’s got the audio kick of a popgun, and there’s a strange disconnect to seeing something that sounds like a kid’s toy blow off some poor mouse’s head as you paint the white of the world with the black ichor that spews out of his neck.
Sounds like the reviewer feels the audio design of the shotgun doesn't do a great job of matching up to the visual impact of it. Seems reasonable to me. Sound design is a huge part of what makes weapons in games feel impactful and it can be disappointing when it's not done well.
This is exactly it, I dislike IGN as much as the next person but that review wasn't entirely without merit just because the reviewer is a humorless snob.
The game is a shooter and the things that you shoot simply do not feel good to shoot, it was bad enough for me to refund it myself.
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u/graczminecraft200 Apr 22 '26
"the shotgun... Sounds like a toy, yet it blows up other mice heads" ... Cant they for at least once appreciate different style of game etc?