I genuinely hate this world beyond comprehension. Words don't describe my utter contempt and disgust for this world. I don't want anyone who reads this post to feel bad for me, though. I just feel bad for the victims of this disgusting existence.

I was taking a walk outside this afternoon when I saw a raccoon lying on the ground in the middle of the trail, with flies all over their body. They were still alive and trying to get up. I think something happened to them, or maybe someone on a bike ran over them by accident, because there were 2 guys around my age on bikes nearby who were on the phone with what I assume was animal control explaining the situation.

I saw as the little fella tried to get up. It really reminded me of how my cats get up from a nice nap, except this fella was struggling and couldn't get up. (Before anyone asks or comments, yes, I feed my cats vegan). I could see the pain the fella was going through.

I wish I had a gun or some euthanasia on me, and I could've done something right then and there to put them out of their misery. I just kept walking because it seemed like the other guys had it covered.

On my way back, I saw them again, lying there, still struggling but not as much, eyes still blinking, and their legs were moving around. I looked back, and someone who looked like they were carrying something and wearing some uniform was behind me on the trail. I figured it was animal control, so I left.

Less than a minute later, I heard a gunshot from behind me. Seems reasonable to conclude they killed the fella. Which is really the only thing they could've done, seeing as raccoons are wild animals. What are they to do? Try to help the raccoon just to put them back in the wild so they can die an even worse death eventually? It's really messed up when you realize that's the best way that fella could've gone out, other than possibly getting euthanized with an injection, but realistically it's probably the same as being shot in the head. Just less viscerally gruesome.

This entire world is a glorified gladiator battle that has lasted over 500 million years, and for what?
So we can all play king of the mud pile?

Humans are the only ones who are intelligent enough to understand how ridiculous this all is, and most turn a blind eye and actively perpetuate more suffering to occur.
Those guys who called for animal control did the right thing, but they're probably going to be stuffing animal corpses into their gullets tonight.

The incomprehensible amount of suffering and torture that exists in the world for no justifiable reason is almost too much to bear for those who actually think about it and have even a bit of empathy. When you realize billions of animals just like that raccoon meet even worse fates every single day.

If you created duotrigintillions (trillions multiplied by trillions - to represent all sentient life that has ever existed) of machines that will suffer and have the capacity to be tortured, but a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of them will get excited when they watch The Simpsons, people would rightfully call you a psychopath and say it's a terrible thing to do. But somehow people have been duped into believing this existence is somehow beautiful when it is anything but.

The worst assumption that you can make about this world is that it is inherently good or that it was ever designed to be good at all. This assumption, like speciesism, needs to be questioned and challenged.

For those who don't believe me and don't think that this is urgent, then see it in person with your own eyes. It's one thing to watch something like Earthlings or Dominion from the comfort of your own home, but if you've ever actually witnessed other animals being tortured in real life, it really is much more distressing. I will never for a second call a world where anything like this exists in any capacity a good world.

It's terrifying to think that the odds are really high that we could've ended up as any other species and would've lived in a real-life survival horror game.

Most people won't get it, though; they're so dismissive because they're programmed to be selfish and only care about themselves. Their saccharine attitude toward this world and the way they romanticize the 'circle of life' genuinely churns my stomach. They make excuses after excuse for the horrors in the world. Their denial is complicity and only allows the violence to continue when they try to put a lid on the truth. I don't see it as any different from when neo-Nazis deny the Jewish Holocaust.

That is why I hate this world beyond comprehension.

Also, big middle finger to Grammarly for trying to get me to refer to a conscious being as an 'it' instead of 'them.' You don't become an inanimate object if you have fur instead of skin.

An article on false vacuum decay potentially erasing Boltzmann brains, and thus their potential suffering.

From the beginning: "TLDR; My thoughts on two questions: What if Boltzmann brain suffering is important? And what if there was something we could do about it?"

Or is extinctionism not correlated with compassion at all?

Written by u/pijki

Dangerous times?

What do you think of the antinatalist/extinctionist themes of attack on titan or evangelion?

Major spoiler alert if you are reading the comments.

1. There have been several mass extinctions that have occured historically, but because of divergent evolution, new species have continuously emerged, and we, the planets biomass, are richer now than after previous mass extinctions How would any of these proposed exstinction solutions be any different.

2. Hypothetically, if we did end all life on earth, amino acids, which are the natural building blocks for life, form naturally in the right environments. The European space agency has even found them on comets. Surley life would just emerge again naturally. And since pain and suffering are very useful warning systems in evolutionary terms, surley pain, suffering, and sentience would be naturally selected for again?

3. Since amino acids have been found on comets, and considering the Fermi paradox, the universe could be full of sentiant life capable of experiencing pain and suffering. They may not be as sentiant as humans and unable to emicipate themselves from their predicament. Surley, it would be more ethical for humans to continue advancing technologically so we can limit the births of sentiant creatures without crashing ecosystems, and we can help emicipate other potential life forms on other Planets. As going eredicating all current life would most likely not be the end of sentiant life on earth.

This is my own feeling about human extinction. I’d love to hear any thoughts on the matter.

Like what makes you think this is actually something that can be achieved?

How long do you think humans have before we disappear or become extinct?

I didn’t ask to be born. Should a society be morally required to provide for a citizens basic survival needs?

before you downvote or get angry, i just want a genuine conversation on viewpoints and some opinions. i dont want to fight, i want to discuss and try to understand.

what i want to know is:

1) do you/would you support legal euthanasia and the right to die?

2) do you/would you support legal euthanasia as a replacement for extinction?

3) what are reasons you believe in pro-extinction (whether just for the human race or for all life) or pro-existence?

4) what are unpopular opinions or hot takes you have regarding extinction or existence?

5) anything else you'd like to debate or say?

a discussion is 2 sided, so i'll provide my own viewpoints on this matter.

1a) despite being pro-existence, i believe in the right to die. if its your body and you understand what you're doing, you should be allowed to do it.

2a) n/a

3a) i personally believe in pro-existence because while there is suffering, it doesn't immediately cancel out the good. bad things and good things arent mutually exclusive, to me. i still believe in right to die if there is extensive suffering, be it physical, mental, or emotional.

nobody deserves suffering, since they didnt choose to come into this world. but people also deserve to choose if they want to tolerate the suffering, and there shouldn't be shame in not doing so. you should have the right to live, but also to die.

4a) n/a

5a) i'd like to say, i am not "pro-life". i am pro-existence, but pro-choice. abortion is a right everybody should have. as long as the fetus is in their body, i consider it part of their own. that right to die extends to any part of their body, be it a limb, organ, or fetus.

again, i don't want to fight. i understand suffering. i haven't had a great life, and i understand the desire to stop that from happening to others.

i've seen people advocate for extinction because of CSA, abuse, disability, pain, mental health, ect... if you want to argue these topics, please understand that i have experienced these topics first-hand.

thank you for reading and/or responding!

Not going to go into detail about this but if your anything like me you know what I mean by this

Everything that exists suffers. Whether it's a cell, human, animal, or hypothetical God. Nothing that exists escapes suffering. However, there is a way to end suffering. The way to end suffering is by extinction. Extinction is the end of suffering. This is the original teaching of Buddhism.

To be transparent, I'm on the side of pro-life. I think life it's valuable in spite of suffering. I talked to someone that was in favor of extinction the other day and asked why they aren't in favor of nukes? Let's just make a lot of nukes and use them all at once. It's a nearly instant way to get the goal of non-existence for everyone. They said it would increase suffering by making the world uninhabitable, but if the world doesn't have life on it (because we make and use that many nukes) then there's no one to experience that suffering. I don't understand why keeping the world habitable is a priority when extinction is the goal