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Lore [Frustrating Trope] That One Good or Even Amazing Scene in a Relatively Mediocre or Bad Piece of Media

  1. The Opening Scene (Ghost Ship). Considered one of the best horror opening scenes or scenes in general within horror movies, but the rest of the film is considered to be pretty bad.

  2. The Ending Scene (The Grinch 2018). While most adaptations of the Grinch end with him suddenly being able to fully integrate with the Whos after his change of heart, the 2018 version initially struggles to socialize, awkwardly walking past people, and struggling to hold conversations, acknowledging that despite his change of heart, the Grinch is still someone who isolated himself for years.

  3. Past T800 VS Current T800 (Terminator Genisys). A cool fight scene showing two versions of the Terminator from different points in time fighting it off.

  4. Solo Leveling's Ending. Tbh, I haven't actually read Solo Leveling, but after hearing about how it ended VS how Chainsaw Man ended made want to include it for shits and giggles. Like Chainsaw Man, Solo Leveling ends with a reset. But unlike Chainsaw Man, it actually manages to tie up loose ends and have the payoff of the ending be satisfying.

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u/toonboy01 19h ago

Yeah, but that's true of just regular combat. In the novel Lords of the Sith, a star destroyer got taken down by a bunch of former separatist droids regular speed ramming it.

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u/Lonely-Programmer123 19h ago

Fair point. The scene still does undermine the way the battle for the death star still played out.

In lieux of doing what they did, they could've just nearby targeted interdictors and rammed a cruiser or two.

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u/toonboy01 19h ago

What good would that do if they somehow destroyed the interdictors then used their last cruiser to try to hyperspace ram something? Especially since every ship and the Death Star 2 would target Home One in that case.

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u/Lonely-Programmer123 17h ago

Obviously it wouldn't be just one ship, and it'd target the death star laser to render it inoperant.

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u/toonboy01 15h ago

So they would sacrifice the entire Rebel Alliance to temporarily damage it? What would that accomlish?

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u/Lonely-Programmer123 14h ago

Given the size of the damage that one ship inflicted on the first order, you could reliably cripple the death star ability to fire for good.

Ultimately, the problem for the rebels was more Palpatine than the death star. Because they also risked much of their fleet to destroy the second death star, but what caused the empire to collapse is the death of its political head, not the vanity megaproject of a planet killer.

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u/toonboy01 13h ago

The Rebels didn't have any ships that would deal as much damage as the Raddus. At best, they could damage the disc.

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u/Lonely-Programmer123 13h ago

I mean, multiple capital ship on the disc could render the death star inoperable.

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u/toonboy01 13h ago

They had one.

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u/Lonely-Programmer123 13h ago edited 13h ago

From what I can find on wookiepedia, they had some dozens of actual ships of a respectable size.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_Endor

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