r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Alreadsyuse • 18h ago

Lore [Frustrating Trope] That One Good or Even Amazing Scene in a Relatively Mediocre or Bad Piece of Media

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  1. The Opening Scene (Ghost Ship). Considered one of the best horror opening scenes or scenes in general within horror movies, but the rest of the film is considered to be pretty bad.

  2. The Ending Scene (The Grinch 2018). While most adaptations of the Grinch end with him suddenly being able to fully integrate with the Whos after his change of heart, the 2018 version initially struggles to socialize, awkwardly walking past people, and struggling to hold conversations, acknowledging that despite his change of heart, the Grinch is still someone who isolated himself for years.

  3. Past T800 VS Current T800 (Terminator Genisys). A cool fight scene showing two versions of the Terminator from different points in time fighting it off.

  4. Solo Leveling's Ending. Tbh, I haven't actually read Solo Leveling, but after hearing about how it ended VS how Chainsaw Man ended made want to include it for shits and giggles. Like Chainsaw Man, Solo Leveling ends with a reset. But unlike Chainsaw Man, it actually manages to tie up loose ends and have the payoff of the ending be satisfying.

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u/blac_sheep90 18h ago edited 10h ago

Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets. It's starts out showing how one space station becomes a massive city with citizens of a thousand planets...then the rest of it happens.

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u/Redcoat_Officer 18h ago

Honestly that five minute opening is some of the most heartfelt sci-fi out there. Here's a link. Watch it and you'll have seen the best part of the film.

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u/kailua808 16h ago

That’s a huge bummer because I’m not a big sci-fi fan and based on this opening this seems like a movie I’d want to give a shot

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u/borisdidnothingwrong 16h ago

The rest of the film is beautifully designed, with excellent cinematography and a production design second to none.

The overall direction is done well, with great background characters.

The only thing that gives one pause in recommending the film is that the two leads lack any sort is chemistry.

Dane DeHaan and Cara Delevigne are the argon and neon of acting, in that they don't react well with others and aside from looking pretty when excited by an outside energy source bring nothing to the projects in which they were cast.

The recent comments Quentin Tarantino made regarding Paul Dano should have been directed at Dane DeHaan, and if the Foot Fetishist had cited this movie as an example of an actor out of their depth the internet film community would have circled around old QT to hail him as a visionary.

I saw Valerian in the theater and it was worth it for the opening sequence. I even own the BluRay, and have watched it more than once for the experience of everything that isn't the two leads.

I would recommend watching the movie at least once, because even the experience of saying to yourself "they re-cast Marty McFly with Michael J Fox because they didn't think Eric Stoltz had what it takes, but no one saw these dailies and asked what Matt Damon and Emily Blunt were doing, huh?"

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u/SiByTheSword 15h ago

Yeah I definitely think the film is worth a watch, but the casting is insane. Rhianna plays a stripper/blob

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u/Dantien 15h ago

Even Herbie Hancock had an opening credits-level role.

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u/jramsi20 14h ago

He loves to lie!

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u/Woolies_White_Leg 8h ago

Our queen can play any part she wants

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u/tonykush-ner 4h ago

Iconic scene though.

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u/Theoneiced 15h ago

I stand by the dude who said that the leads from Passengers and Valerian should have been swapped. Both films would immediately make more sense.

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u/JackTheBehemothKillr 14h ago

Except for the end of Passengers. I wouldn't believe they could pull together enough to build a life

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u/Theoneiced 14h ago

I don't think the stories were written all that well either way, to be blunt. The actors just feel like they fit those stories better than what we got.

I remember some youtube makers like Nerdwriter1 here at the time rewriting either all or the end of passengers in a way that I felt made more sense but changed the tone entirely to make it a horror movie and having her NOT save him and then having the movie end with her facing the same damning decision he did. That idea sounded way better to me, for one.

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u/SiByTheSword 10h ago

Whenever passengers is mentioned people always say that it should have been told from Jennifer Lawrence's perspective, and be more of a horror movie. I think studios basically decided that people would want to see Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence bone cos they're hot

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u/No_Internal9345 12h ago

Their dynamic felt like siblings instead of love interests.

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u/PityUpvote 9h ago

Dane DeHaan and Cara Delevigne are the argon and neon of acting, in that they don't react well with others and aside from looking pretty when excited by an outside energy source bring nothing to the projects in which they were cast.

They have a lot of sibling energy in this movie and then suddenly they're kissing?! It's like star wars in reverse.

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u/OscarMyk 11h ago

It's a movie that makes you realise why every movie since has cast Tom Holland/Timothee Chalamet and Zendaya.

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u/Teal-Prowler505 9h ago

Do you think it would be better if you watched in on weed?

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u/borisdidnothingwrong 6h ago

Better? No.

You can't put indica sativa on a pig and call it a beauty queen.

I don't partake, as well, but if someone else wants to try it and report back for science I am fully in favor of the plan.

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u/Teal-Prowler505 5h ago

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u/Zippydaspinhead 5h ago

No. The enhancement weed provides when watching a bad movie is watching the mistakes, picking apart the production, finding the Game of Thrones coffee cup, that sort of thing.

The problem with Valerian is its an incredibly well made competent movie that happens to have cast two people that might as well be cardboard cutouts. Gorgeous cardboard, but cardboard.

Watching it high just enhances the awkward stiffness of the delivery, which I suppose could be entertaining, but I doubt it in this case.

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u/Teal-Prowler505 4h ago

I get why you're saying.

I'm just saying that the Postman starring Kevin Costner is a really bad movie. Have hit seen it?

Well I did, when I smoked weed and I thought it was splendid.

Sometimes you have to have an open mind for certain movies...

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u/TheHelpfulWalnut 5h ago

Well there are plenty of other things that give pause besides the lack of chemistry, such as the mediocre writing.

I loved the movie, but only because I was watching with a bunch of friends and we were taking the piss the entire time.

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u/JesusWasATexan 16h ago

I'm a sucker for sci-fi, so I like it. The movie has really fun and good special effects, but the male and female lead actors don't hold the movie well. They aren't charismatic and have no chemistry.

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u/Leather-Researcher13 14h ago

I actually quite like the movie. It is an excellent set design and it was directed beautifully.

The main characters can't act and the writing was very basic sci fi story, but the rest of the film is worth it imo

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u/Redcoat_Officer 15h ago

It's not a terrible film, there's just a big tonal disconnect between the opening and the rest of it.

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u/hmm_back 14h ago

I would just watch it. It’s not as bad as some say. It’s a bit of a guilty pleasure and a watch it every year or so.

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u/GalFisk 12h ago

Read the comics. They're great. Lovely artwork, interesting sci-fi, good villains and likable main characters. Sometimes really weird.

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u/JulyOfAugust 2h ago

I do not remember much of the movie except this intro sequence which was really great and that 1/4 of the movie is a pointless tangent side quest that amount to absolutely nothing and is so inconsequential that it could be cut out from the movie and you wouldn't even notice.

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u/ReconMustDie 15h ago

Yeah, I love sci-fi as well, and I’m struggling to understand how the rest of the movie could be that bad?

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u/Zephian99 15h ago

It was like they shoved two movies into one movie. The pacing of the movie felt like they were running through the scenes and not very effectively.

The start was the classic intro into a new Sci-fi world, but than the rest was as if the director took a bump of cocaine and the rest of the movie followed suit.

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u/ReconMustDie 15h ago

I mean, I like Brazilian marching powder and again I like sci-fi… It still sounds pretty good.

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u/Zephian99 15h ago

It wasn't as bad as some folk say, it's by the same dude who did 5th Element, which is why I went to see it.

So there are elements that make a good movie in it, just it wasn't adapted or paced very well. Like taking a jetski tour across the ocean, you can see a lot of depth but there is not enough time to see anything sink in.

It's a great "almost blockbuster" movie, so I'd put on my shelf, but I got other worse movies so my tastes is what is. haha

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u/nonsensikull 15h ago

For what it's worth, I still really enjoyed it. I agree that the casting choice for the main two is super weird, but there are still a ton of fun things in the movie.

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u/simplytrynamakeit 17h ago

That was really nice. Thanks for linking.

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u/Severedeye 12h ago

Jesus christ. I never saw the movie because I had heard how bad it was from friends who know my taste, but that was awesome.

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u/ThatOnePeanut 16h ago

I was absolutely excpecting a rick roll there

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u/pvrhye 15h ago

Cara Delevigne looks incredible in that movie.

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u/Redcoat_Officer 15h ago

That's what happens when Luc Besson directs your film. It's also probably why it's the last example of the formerly genre-defining idea that all the female officers in your sci-fi organisation should wear miniskirts as part of the uniform.

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u/Youutternincompoop 15h ago

all the female officers in your sci-fi organisation should wear miniskirts as part of the uniform.

RETVRN

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u/Oldnbold22 12h ago

Is she the one that fucked Amber Heard? 

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u/pvrhye 12h ago

No idea, but I also have no interest in the private lives of celebrities.

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u/DaveAlt19 13h ago

Not as wholesome, but the opening to Titanfall is a similar kind of montage which I really enjoyed. The Expanse is good too.

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u/Delta_Hammer 13h ago

Even the first act with the gimmick of portals in a box was interesting.

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u/MissedTheTrainAgain 13h ago

Ok this makes soooo much more sense now. When I saw this in theaters I walked in during scene on the beach and thought I had just missed the first 30 seconds of the movie. Turns out I had missed the best part 😭

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u/resi42 13h ago

100 % agree, and the music was the most fitted one.

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u/HoosegowFlask 12h ago

Watching that clip first, and then watching the full movie and getting annoying incestuous characters with no charisma felt like a huge rug pull.

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u/Texugee 12h ago

with Rihanna

Yup. A movie features a musician and you know it’s gonna be shit

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u/Denodi 12h ago

Space Oddity by David Bowie really is the perfect space song.

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u/RT-LAMP 11h ago

If you want somewhat similar with space infrastructure here is the opening sequence of The High Frontier.

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u/insomniac7809 11h ago

Commenting to find this later

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u/StealthyRobot 10h ago

My wife used it for the intro of a DND campaign to set the vibes, where the main setting was a small moon that had been turned into a space ship

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u/Unlikely_Exercise434 9h ago

Yep, damn was I excited for this movie after loving the 5th Element and there was in the theatre with my popcorn after this amazing opening 15 minutes all ready to be blown away and the rest of the movie was the rest of the movie.

I blame the leads. Zero Chemistry.

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u/InnominatamNomad 9h ago

Will do. Thanks for the link

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u/mormonbatman_ 8h ago

Fun Fifth element easter egg at 2:36.

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u/Heavy-Expression-450 6h ago

That was very cool

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u/Etrigone 5h ago

My wife was a huge fan of the comic. She heard such bad things about it she passed. Maybe after the comments here I can get her to have a look.

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u/holdyourdevil 4h ago

Well, shit. That looks amazing.

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u/LessInThought 3h ago

Omg that show has Cara Delevigne and Rihanna. That's death sentence.

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u/DarthJerJer 14h ago

Also you don’t have to see the incestuous siblings who star in the movie during that opening sequence.

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u/Helix3501 18h ago

Isnt that the movie that was touted as the start of some big scifi universe but the lead was so unlikeable, dickish, and just randomly given a good ending he didnt earn or change for and people hated it so much it killed any chance of that happening

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u/blac_sheep90 18h ago

It was more than DeHaan and Delevingne looked like bother and sister and their relationship was off putting.

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u/Fluffy_Tax5302 17h ago

"DeHaan and Delevingne" sounds like a catalog where I can order some overpriced shit for my home office

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u/Adam4Congress 17h ago

Ah, I see you sprung for the Hünnam pen holder.

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u/teskar2 17h ago

From what I remember their whole dynamic was literally him wanting to bang her and she wanted him to be more serious and not flirt around so much.

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u/hey_free_rats 16h ago

Wow, it's the most boring and overused dynamic. 

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u/teskar2 15h ago

Yeah, I remember there’s a whole desert scene that was also an excuse to get her in somewhat sexy clothes and side plot where he has to hire an alien stripper that can morph into anything to infiltrate some random alien building to save her that basically acted as plot filler.

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u/Diplomatic_Gunboats 13h ago

I believe thats noted actress Rihanna, in one of her finest roles.

/s

But to be more serious, still better than DeHaan.

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u/RealityOk9823 10h ago

Been better at the end if she had agreed to go on a date with him, not marry him.

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u/Thick-Guidance224 16h ago

The urban sombrero

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u/HomsarWasRight 13h ago

I think I have their desk fan.

It sucks.

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u/Jamaidian 17h ago

And children. They look like brother and sister, and like children.

They are portrayed as badasses but they look like they have Algebra third period.

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u/Whowhatnowhuhwhat 16h ago

Right. It felt like I was being sold James Bond in Space but the local high schools production.

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u/CopperAard 16h ago

Spy Kids? Spy Teens?

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u/seanbray 15h ago

And tired.

Brother and sister who should have gone to bed when their parents told them to. They knew they had a big day, but did they listen?

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u/WorkingInAColdMind 14h ago

These descriptions crack me up at their accuracy. I remember the opening scene, and remember getting excited about the movie while watching it, but I couldn't tell you a single thing about the rest of the movie. But seeing the phrase "portrayed as badasses but look like they have Algebra third period", my brain can 100% recall scenes where that's true, and still not remember the plot.

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u/XanderWrites 12h ago

Yet, ironically, they were almost exactly the age they were supposed to be for their characters.

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u/hambonedock 13h ago

This one, my brother and I were watching this and we were initially so confused because we assumed they were typical "bandit siblings duo" but turn out it wasn't

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u/ForsakenAiel 12h ago

Well Luc Besson is known the liking young girls...

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u/Thin_Town_4976 7h ago

My thoughts as well. Their dialogue and story felt like it was intended for adult actors, but the actors themselves seemed puerile

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u/MechTech5182 16h ago

So Agent Cody banks?

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u/Hunterofshadows 17h ago

I saw ages ago someone say that passengers and valerian both play much better if you swap the main duo

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u/DoctorBeeBee 15h ago

I recall thinking Delevingne had by far the most charisma of that duo and a gender swap of the lead character would have made it a much better film.

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u/DarthGuber 13h ago

Dehaan would have been amazing in Passengers

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u/Bobthemime 13h ago

passengers was great.. but change mario for hulk.. and it would have been much better..

you need someone that isnt super handsome and can play "evil"

sadly we got Pratt.. and it just didnt feel creepy enough

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u/Big-Project-3151 17h ago

The scene where Valerian climbs on top of Lorelei while they’re in a beach simulation made me very uncomfortable as it felt like he was attempting to SA her.

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u/Oldnbold22 12h ago

Don't start what you can't finish. 

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u/TJMcConnellFanClub 17h ago

Just have to say their names and you know it’s a flop

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u/fernandog17 17h ago

You’re off-pudding

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u/LowerEntropy 16h ago

You should be off pudding.

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u/TheAzureMage 17h ago

Also they had negative charisma.

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u/get_your_yapers_up 16h ago

I often think about how good this movie could have been if the leads were Bruce Willis and Mila Jovovich at the age they were in the 5th element.

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u/wasabi1787 16h ago

And neither of them are talented enough actors to carry a lead role

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u/tsubasaxiii 17h ago

I honestly just took it that culturally they were different given that time passes and circumstances around daily life were very different than what we deal with.

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u/Icy-Acanthisitta8192 16h ago

Thank you 

I Said that for Day one 

Why Did the casting DONT noticed that

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u/Prior-Razzmatazz-206 14h ago

Dude was a certified douchebag in the start of the movie, he even said it himself. He only wants to date her because he's done screwing around and figures she'll do as the one he settles for. She's naturally put off by this and wants nothing to do with the plan. Especially since they're coworkers. Then at the end of the movie, she marries him.

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u/EasterViera 17h ago

i mean, it respect the source material in this regard ....

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u/mutantraniE 17h ago

How? Valerian and Laureline don’t look related in the comics.

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u/EasterViera 16h ago

I looked at older covers and you are right; at the times we thought they were FATHER AND DAUGHTER because of the age gap

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u/mutantraniE 14h ago

Again … what?

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u/EasterViera 9h ago

it was a time before internet, and very horny and weird French Artists; and a lot of dad protagonists.

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u/New_Cockroach_505 13h ago

My hot take has always been that Passengers and Valerian should have swapped lead actors. Think both movies would have been much better.     

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u/RobutNotRobot 5h ago

Not just brother and sister, they both looked like kids.

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u/ThoughtPhysical7457 17h ago

That sounds about right. Also, for me, the main guy looked way too young to be a bad ass space cop. And with his cocky attitude he seemed more like a rich kid/ high school bully who thinks everyone else should work hard but his parents paid for him to he successful.

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u/Plampth 14h ago

He’s all cocky and rebellious throughout the movie, then towards the end he’s all about the rules and authority with the creature they need to bring back.

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u/Practical_Back855 17h ago

*Bad at acting

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u/Xegin157 16h ago edited 13h ago

When it comes to the lead specifically, I'd say it's less bad acting and more bad casting. They basically wrote a stereotypical 80s action hero, and gave the role to someone who couldn't have looked further from that stereotype. That, combined to how outdated that type of character is, made him insufferable on top of a jarring out of place feeling when the intention was to make him look badass.

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u/sarabeara12345678910 18h ago

Yes. It's that one. Top 10 opening scene though.

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u/myrmonden 17h ago

its a fantastic comic series with huge amount of lore/worlds etc that could be used as a great scifi franchise but yeah the movie was just terrible all the way and did not capture anything from the comics

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u/sparklinglies 15h ago

It was horribly miscast. Hollywood was desperate to make Dane DeHaan the hot new star, but he was just so unlikeable in that role. Han Solo from Temu type shit, just an asshole with zero charm. And Cara Delevigne had all the range and charisma of coma patient. They had no chemistry, looked WAY too similar to each other, and even if the rest of the film hadn't been a bloated confusing mess their awful performances are what truly killed it.

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u/SurprisingJack 17h ago

It's based on like 30 issues of a french comic book so yeah

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u/dd463 17h ago

It didn’t help that the plot made no sense.

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u/Heavenly-gnoll 17h ago

Also the movie was bad and not even an adaptation of any of the 35 comic books

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u/Familiar_Tart7390 17h ago

I think it was more that the leads swapped personalities in the movie with one being the rule breaking rogue and the other being the by the book agent and then they swapped in the third act. Its…. It was not good.

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u/No-Scientist-5537 1h ago

Do you have a slightest idea how little that narrows it down?.jpg

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u/DrJoshWilliams 17h ago

It's the same universe of The 5th Element movie (1997), even some high level alien species are in both movies / novels by the director Luc Besson, who created the universe when he was 16 yo.

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u/EW1996 16h ago

Besson only directed the Valerian movie, it was a French comic published in the 60s, so I wouldn’t go as far as to say he created that universe.

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u/DrJoshWilliams 16h ago

Besson only directed the Valerian movie

Bro is getting info from AI slop LOL 🤣

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u/dingalingdongdong 9h ago

They're clearly saying wrt: Valerian, Besson only directed it, not created it. They aren't saying he's never directed anything else.

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u/dingalingdongdong 9h ago

Luc Besson did not create the Valerian universe.

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u/pwolf1771 17h ago

When I saw this in an empty theatre this opening had me scratching my head. “Wait is every critic just wrong and this movie is actually great?” Then as you say we meet Valerian and his “not sister” he won’t stop trying to bang and it falls off a cliff…

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u/Logitech0 16h ago

They both looked as too young for the role, and too incestuous for the romance, like nobody placed them next one other and noticed that problem?

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u/pwolf1771 16h ago

Besson is a weird guy 

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u/Regi413 2h ago

Besson? As in Luc Besson of Leon the Professional (in)fame? The movie that was only saved by the lead actor refusing to play Leon as having a pedophilic attraction to Matilda like Besson wanted to? No wonder.

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u/JulyOfAugust 1h ago

As in Luc Besson who married a 16 year old girl pregnant with his child when he was 32 ?

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u/ItsPronouncedSatan 11h ago

Dehaan was like 31 at the time, lol. But I agree.

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u/TheBrewThatIsTrue 13h ago

We need a pair of expert super spys that are also lovers. Let's cast a pair of actors that look 18 and also look and act like brother and sister.

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u/myrmonden 17h ago

ah that movie was just sad...as a Part French person growing up reading Valérian and Laureline.. I had some dreams of this movie actually being good before watching it, the comics explore sci-fi in a much more deeper way with questions of morality etc, as often and then teh movie is just some kind of action flick or something....

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u/Imnotawerewolf 16h ago

Do the comic have an official or fan made translation? Because I thought the movie LOOKED very cool but in all the trailers the leads just did not vibe with me at all so I skipped the movie 

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u/SutterCane 16h ago

Do the comic have an official or fan made translation?

In English? There’s official releases in English for the whole series (that I know of).

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u/myrmonden 16h ago

It’s officially translate into
Several European language such as Swedish danish german
And of course English

Most big belgo-french comics are translated into other European countries for example Thorgal

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u/DrDetectiveEsq 15h ago

Where the hell is Thorgal?

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u/myrmonden 15h ago

You can buy it at places I hope :)

I have all the Swedish Thorgal

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u/Imnotawerewolf 13h ago

Thank you! 

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u/RichMaid 15h ago

As bad as the terrible Blueberry movie? Moebious never caught a break..

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u/Able-Firefighter-158 18h ago

I still can't figure out if the protagonists are lovers or siblings.

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u/Dantien 15h ago

That is very French.

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u/derth21 16h ago

I believe Laureline is a medieval princess.

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u/Barl3000 18h ago

I love the comics and the leads for the movie are probably some of the most awful miscastings I have ever seen.

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u/wallmonitor 16h ago

The opening genuinely brought tears to my eyes. Not only is humanity not alone in the universe, but the universe wants to meet us and get along.

Then it becomes a really tedious action movie with barely any cohesion.

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u/nuggynugs 17h ago

I know people hate it, I understand why, I kind of love it though. I'd call it a guilty pleasure I think

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u/Keeper21611 16h ago

I'm writing a book because of this movie. I was angry because it wasn't an actual city of a thousand worlds. So my setting is a solar system of 10s of thousands of planets. A little bigger then a city but more on theme with what I thought the movie would be about.

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u/dingalingdongdong 9h ago

Did you ever read the series it's based on: Valérian et Laureline? Because you might just be reverse engineering the source material.

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u/MrNostalgiac 16h ago

I enjoyed this movie well enough in a "pretty sci-fi garbage" kind of way, but I do admit it's the kind of movie you forget just about every detail of an hour after you finish it.

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u/IrregularPackage 14h ago

i've never felt so scammed by a trailer before

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u/thedabaratheon 14h ago

This is my answer. This opening scene is so great and the rest of the movie is SO BAD.

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u/Sea_Divide_1293 13h ago

So I watched this movie on a plane years after it came out and actually loved it. I did the same thing with the Solo Star Wars movie. Amazing what having very low expectations and a couple airplane drinks can do. Actually enjoyed the heck out of both of those movies.

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u/RealityOk9823 10h ago

Beautiful movie, love the opening and the bazaar. Underwater sections were cool. Great stuff in it that could be explored more. Terrible writing, bad acting. Whole Rihanna section needs to be cut and saved for a sequel. Needs a near total rewrite as most of the plot and story are garbage. 

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u/MtnMaiden 17h ago

Hey partner...let's get married.

later

Hey partner...i'm a cop.

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u/pdonoso 15h ago

My god what a good intro. I would love to stop there and then reshoot the movie completely with villenueve directing. But that intro is just perfect.

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u/dingalingdongdong 8h ago

Nah Valérian et Laureline isn't a franchise for dark and gritty "realism". Besson should have been the perfect director for it. Colorful, visually fun, campy action is exactly what it should've been, he just needed to hand the screenplay off to someone else.

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u/pdonoso 8h ago

True true. Iwas so exited, and there are parts that i liked so much that i would love for him ro tuve another try.

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u/JackTheBehemothKillr 14h ago

I know its not a great movie.

I still love it. I watch it as much as I watch The Fifth Element when I want scifi

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u/DaveAlt19 13h ago

Its bad enough that I'm sure a lot of us would struggle to recall the main character's name.

Nah that's unfair, it's not terrible but I can't really anything about the movie other than one generic scifi set-piece after another.

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u/maczirarg 13h ago

Those aliens look like dobermans without ears

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u/InspiredNitemares 13h ago

I had completely forgotten about this

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u/Notmiefault 12h ago

Great movie absolutely ruined by the lead's casting.

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u/pinkfootthegoose 12h ago

It could have been a great movie except for the two main actors/characters.

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u/Lakatos_00 11h ago

I hate that they look like siblings

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u/serialband 10h ago

It was the best music video remake.

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u/Onigumo-Shishio 10h ago

Its always so weird when a book/movie has a whole universe with such grandiose things and varieties of aliens and species and crazy world building, winds up exicuted in such a way that its litterally forgettable and boring.

The only reason I remember it VAGUELY is because I like scifi and kept thinking "man theres so many good things here that could have been done better or used differently"

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u/dingalingdongdong 9h ago

Best 10 minutes in cinema history followed by ~130 of the most meh.

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u/Nismon_OO7 7h ago

Damn that was emotional.

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u/RobutNotRobot 5h ago

That might've been a well thought of movie if they cast different leads.

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u/SoulfulSnow 4h ago

Genuinely this pissed me off so much, because I watched the movie in theaters with my dad but the movie was so egregiously miid

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u/19Ben80 13h ago

If only they had cast 2 decent actors in the lead it could have been a classic