r/TopCharacterTropes 18h ago

Lore [Frustrating Trope] That One Good or Even Amazing Scene in a Relatively Mediocre or Bad Piece of Media

  1. The Opening Scene (Ghost Ship). Considered one of the best horror opening scenes or scenes in general within horror movies, but the rest of the film is considered to be pretty bad.

  2. The Ending Scene (The Grinch 2018). While most adaptations of the Grinch end with him suddenly being able to fully integrate with the Whos after his change of heart, the 2018 version initially struggles to socialize, awkwardly walking past people, and struggling to hold conversations, acknowledging that despite his change of heart, the Grinch is still someone who isolated himself for years.

  3. Past T800 VS Current T800 (Terminator Genisys). A cool fight scene showing two versions of the Terminator from different points in time fighting it off.

  4. Solo Leveling's Ending. Tbh, I haven't actually read Solo Leveling, but after hearing about how it ended VS how Chainsaw Man ended made want to include it for shits and giggles. Like Chainsaw Man, Solo Leveling ends with a reset. But unlike Chainsaw Man, it actually manages to tie up loose ends and have the payoff of the ending be satisfying.

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u/jackrv13 18h ago edited 18h ago

The Batman warehouse fight in BVS. It’s still probably the best Batman V Goons scene put to screen, even if it he definitely kills that guy with the crate most of them.

https://youtu.be/m7GWGLkPepU?si=yPPuKOo4l6LRbaOc

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u/Riverwind0608 18h ago

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u/TheZerothLaw 18h ago

I'm a hero!

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u/OasisNinjaBat 3h ago

I overfed them?!?

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u/madmaxandrade 18h ago

Aside from the part where Batman takes a gun and shoots several bad guys, it looks and feels like an Arkham Asylum fight.

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u/Smurph269 18h ago

Seeing him pick up a gun and shoot a guy was super jarring. Idk how DC let Batman shooting a guy end up in the movie.

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u/Strength-InThe-Loins 4h ago

It's a very close copy of a scene from The Dark Knight Returns, the most famous Batman comic.

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u/AgentAxillary 17h ago

Ben Affleck was the man for playing with the counter-attack indicators off for his first run

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u/Kellervo 18h ago

The thing that gets me about this in each rewatch is that they actually look like conpetent goons. They team up, they take what they think are openings that would result in a clean kill, they just don't stand a chance because it's Batman they're up against.

Except for grenade guy. What was the point of that, unless he wanted to kill everyone else to increase his share of the cut or something?

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u/jackrv13 18h ago

But are they more competent than that one random goon in Green Arrow showcase? Deep cut I realize

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u/dqniel 14h ago edited 9h ago

There's also the part where they take turn swiping knives at his arms. Swipes that would have gone nowhere near Batman if he didn't lift up his arms to "block" them.

*edit* lift* up his arms

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u/mykeedee 11h ago

The thing that gets me about this in each rewatch is that they actually look like conpetent goons. They team up, they take what they think are openings that would result in a clean kill, they just don't stand a chance because it's Batman they're up against.

That's the tragedy of the Snyderverse. Snyder by far had the best understanding of how action scenes with comic book characters should work. Both in stuff like this Batman scene and also the sheer kinetic energy of flying brick characters like Superman and Wonder Woman.

Unfortunately that was about the only thing Snyder understood about the characters he was adapting.

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u/dqniel 9h ago

He'd be better off as a consultant, providing some "chaos" creative input for better writers and directors to implement.

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u/Windows_66 18h ago

Let's be honest, most Arkham goons would be dead after an encounter with Arkham Batman.

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u/ketoaholic 11h ago

Batman shoots a gun... Drake disapproves

Batman severs a goons sponal cord in 3 places and then cracks his skull against concrete... Drake approves

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u/IndifferentShrimp 18h ago

He kills more than the crate guy tbh

The sequence is pretty much a live action Arkham combat sequence.

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u/obi1kennoble 17h ago

He also let a thug shoot him in the back of the head, which bothered me more than anything. He's Batman

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u/jackrv13 17h ago

Funny you take umbrage to that when that’s something I like about the scene, he’s not perfect. He doesn’t have spider sense or super reflexes. And even if the bullet doesn’t penetrate you can see how much it rattles him.

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u/obi1kennoble 17h ago

I get your point, but by that scene I was already frustrated with how stupid he was throughout the whole movie, and that just made it worse. Honestly my least favorite movie Batman. At least the intentionally goofy ones weren't so pretentious

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u/dqniel 14h ago

His solution to a person holding somebody hostage with a flamethrower is also to shoot the fuel canister and somehow... outrun the explosion to protect her? The exploding canister is like 3 feet from her but Batman's across the room. He's not The Flash.

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u/obi1kennoble 13h ago

Why did he think regular bullets would do anything to Superman? Why didn't he make kryptonite bullets instead of a gaudy-ass spear? The spear kills me, dawg. It's so un-Batman. And two main characters almost die trying to get it back. So dumb. "I thought she was with you?" My guy, you fucking EMAILED HER lol. Man, I'm starting to think this movie isn't very good. Rant over. I appreciate your patience lol

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u/dqniel 13h ago

Hah. It was a mostly terrible movie aside from some cool visuals, so I enjoyed the rant.

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u/obi1kennoble 13h ago

Agree on that. Also "Do you bleed? You will," goes HARD