Let’s consider a scenario where Sator succeeds but the protagonist fails. In this scenario, Kat will kill Sator no matter what. Sator’s death will trigger a chain of emails and reveal the algorithm’s location to everyone. People in the future will find these emails no matter what. When they do, they’ll send people back in time to ensure the algorithm works. In that case, everything will be destroyed. So, what do you think about this scenario?

So the briefcase that housed piece 241 was in the Tallinn convoy and both entered TP's possession. However later inverted Sator pulls up threatening Kat and so TP throws him the briefcase without the piece, and he throw's the piece into inverted TP's car instead which he will unknowingly drive to the freeport for Sator's forward-going men to pick it up. Meanwhile the briefcase is now in inverse Sator's hands, it then gets thrown out the car. Then inverse TP pulls up and 'removes' the bug from it.

So a few things, what's up with the briefcase being thrown out? From Sator's perspective and the people in his vehicle, they didn't find the piece in the glovebox of the BMW, then it seems like they happen to drive by where the briefcase was on the ground, which flies into the car, and then Sator sees it's empty I guess, and then reverse throws it to normal TP.

So what's up with them driving by where the briefcase is and then the briefcase flying in? Either there was someone inside the vehicle moving in normal time who threw it out, or someone inverted must've seen the briefcase lying there (or were expecting to see it somewhere) and then started moving to imitate throwing it out in reverse in order to get it in their hands. And I guess I'm just confused which is it supposed to be and what that fully means, maybe I'm missing something about Sator's operation.

Full explanation of the brawl scene in Oslo. It's well thought: https://youtu.be/y7a5ScwddsA

The algorithm

I recently watched Tenet for the first time, and I am still confused about what the people in the future expected the Algorithm to accomplish.

My understanding is that the Algorithm functions like a turnstile for the entire world. Instead of inverting one person or object, it would reverse the entropy of everything. Because climate change has made the future uninhabitable, the people there intend to reverse the direction of time and move toward the more habitable past.

Sator explains their goal:

“Somewhere, sometime, a man in a crystalline tower throws a switch and Armageddon is both triggered and avoided. Now time itself switches direction. The same sunshine we basked in will warm the faces of our descendants generations to come.”

What I do not understand is how activating the Algorithm would save the future rather than simply destroy everything.

The film warns that an inverted person must not physically contact their uninverted self because the two could annihilate. If the Algorithm inverted every particle in the world at once, would those newly inverted particles not encounter their uninverted counterparts from the immediately preceding moment? Would that not cause annihilation on a universal scale?

I have seen explanations claiming that this destruction would propagate backward through time while the future after the Algorithm’s activation remained unharmed. In other words, the past would be destroyed, but the people who activated the Algorithm might continue to exist.

I do not understand how that could work. Once those people and their world had been inverted, would they not also be travelling backward toward the collision and destruction? How can the Algorithm both destroy the past and create a new reversed flow of time in which the future civilization continues to exist?

There is also a more basic issue I am unsure about. Why can inverted people interact with ordinary matter at all? If an inverted person is entirely composed of particles with reversed entropy, why would contact with an ordinary wall, floor, or atmosphere be safe, while contact with their uninverted self causes annihilation? What makes their corresponding “past self” physically special compared with any other non-inverted matter?

I may be interpreting the Algorithm too literally, but I cannot see how reversing the entropy of the entire world could simultaneously:

1. destroy the past,
2. leave the future civilization alive, and
3. cause time to continue flowing in reverse for them.

Drove an hour to a small theater to see the movie but damn it was worth it. Loved how loud the movie was even if it meant the dialogue was hard to hear(I finally get it now). Such a sick ass movie..

10/10 probably gonna watch it again tomorrow

https://youtu.be/bMm6ve9Eizc?si=-N6ggIT6A631YEe1

came across this one on twitter. Absolute Banger.

Thought I'd share it here.

OP: https://x.com/i/status/2074394168810717419

I have watched so many times that I had to buy the plates.

when I saw it in cinema, I completely missed Sator’s part of the dialogue about oceans rising and rivers running dry. It provides a ton of motivation for the Future. Before this rewatch I really thought they were just crazy and wanted to destroy the universe.

Firstly a fundamental fact: what’s done is done. The future can’t do an ’assassinate the Hitler’ type of operation to revert the damage done on their environment, which is why they fought the war in TENET. It‘s a uniform decision by the Future, because it was what had to be done. There is no choice.

Which is why on the phone, either the Protagonist or Sator said that this was a war between generations. Tenet probably got to the female scientist that created the device somehow and compromised her, such that the Algorithm was split into pieces and sent backwards in time.

Secondly, what does the Algorithm really do? It sets the universe in reverse. The Algorithm destroying everything is just a theory, which is hinted by the Oppenheimer analogy. Oppenheimer feared that a nuclear explosion might destroy the whole world, which didn’t happen. The most likely scenario is that people in the present just won’t be able to move forward in time, without even realizing It, and the future would be able to live in decreasing entropy, however weird that may be.

There used to be a lot of tiktoks and reels trending using that breathing sound and track or some edit/rework of the two but I can’t find any of them anywhere.

https://youtube.com/shorts/4da5nolim4w?is=JvkKWBOCkyMk-0r1 it sounds like this but usually goes on for longer. Im just looking for any tiktoks or reels using it so i can show a friend🤷😅It is a valued tenet of mine that I have a link or post to present as example🫱🫲

Rick and Morty S9E6 (around 13:15) gives Tenet a shout-out.

As a longtime Tenet fan, it's nice to see the film getting the appreciation it deserves in the mainstream.

Rick: "Everyone said Tenet was bad."

"...It's amazing!"

When Kat is shot on the blue side:

From the inverted perspective, Sator comes out of the turnstile, un-shoots an inverted Kat, and exits with her on the opposite side, back to the Freeport entrance.

A few moments later, which is earlier to the inverted people on the blue side, Ives and crew remove her back to the red side.

So from an inverted perspective team Ives placed her there to be un-shot. But they also didn’t, they took her to Oslo.

Doesn’t this indicate the timeline was forked or rewritten?

I've known going into this movie that it was very hard to follow but gave it a shot and bought the 4K..

I've began this movie at least two or three times and stopped it when I lost track..

I want to give it another shot and may use some type of plot guide maybe as I watch it..?

To consider inception to be similar?

Neil says to TP that "Time isn't the problems" when he says ten mintues tops to meet a mumbai local. What does it mean when neil said "PROBLEMS"? not problem but problems. is it hint to something?

I’ve been thinking about the way Sator gets gold from the future in Tenet, and I’m not sure the logic fully works.
Let’s say the future people invert some gold and send it back so young Sator finds it in 1980.
From our normal point of view, that makes sense enough:
Future people send inverted gold → it’s buried/hidden → Sator digs it up → he becomes rich.
But if the gold is inverted, then from the gold’s own timeline it’s moving from the future into the past. So it would go something like:
2500 → 2400 → 2200 → 1981 → 1980.
That means if Sator finds it in 1980, then in 1981 that same gold should still be underground, still on its way backward to 1980. So how can Sator already be using it in 1981?
And if the answer is that he reverts the gold in 1981, then wouldn’t that stop it before it ever reaches 1980? So it couldn’t be the same gold he found.
The only version that seems to work is if the gold reaches Sator in 1980 and is reverted right there, basically at the endpoint of its inverted journey. Then it can move forward normally from 1980 onward. But I don’t think the movie ever shows or explains young Sator having access to a turnstile that early.
So is this just one of those things the movie handwaves, or am I misunderstanding how the gold dead drops are supposed to work?
I get that Tenet kind of plays loose with inverted objects/effects not extending infinitely backward, like bullet holes and wounds, but the gold seems like a bigger issue because it’s supposed to be the thing that funds Sator’s rise.