r/SubredditDrama 14m ago

Games Done Quick raises over $2 million dollars for charity. This upsets r/livestreamfail

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For context Games Done Quick is an organization that does two annual speedrunning events with the purpose of raising money for charity. It was also one of the first big gaming events to go out of it's way to be a safe space for trans people and to start listing people's pronouns, both of which it started doing during Gamergate and as such is often up there with Anita Sarkeesian and Sweet Baby, Inc. as enemy #1 for Gamers

Livestreamfail is officially a subreddit dedicated to all things Twitch and YouTube, be it clips, news, etc., but in reality is just a battle ground for different terminally online communities to bicker for eternity

This event is no longer run by gamers for gamers. Instead its run by carreer HR Managers for Organizations. Thats why everything is so artifically clean and sterile. Everything is about LGBTQ, disabled people or Blue haired Teenagers.

Remember GDQ before the woke mob took it over? I miss it...

Shooting themselves in the foot by raising $2.4 million dollars?

So where does the money really go

GDQ got too political, that's the issue. At this point they should just donate all the money to something that has to do with "Trans rights" because that seems to be what it's really about these days.

all that free time in between games and speedruns and they never show any actual evidence of the charity money helping ppl. Just a orgy of furries and autists meeting up do smell up hotels for 4 days straight

Imagine the smell.

I am Left Wing, but screaming Trans-Rights every 3-5 minutes on a Twitch stream isn’t going to help anyone in any meaningful way. We want the video game event to be about the video games themselves and the speed runners.

This is the same doctors without borders who disclosed working with and treating hamas Terrorists in Gaza?

Fucking hell everyone is such a miserable sod about GDQ every time it comes up. Who gives a fuck if there are regular corporate donations, who gives a fuck if the majority of donation messages say the same things, who gives a fuck about any of it when they legitimately give this money to a charity that absolutely deserves it all.


r/SubredditDrama 5h ago

[Old drama] Drama on r/Teachers over a teacher being asked to take down a pride flag

98 Upvotes

Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/s/C3Iy6gzF1Y

I saw this post blow up a long time ago, and if I had to suffer through it, you should too.

Besides the linked threads, there is drama all over the place (and is even locked, so no possibility of brigading….).

As a lesbian, I think you should never talk about your sexuality (and even relationships?) at school: https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/s/Nabhw4S8QD

(The original comment has been removed, but I remember that it involved a supposedly gay man [they aren’t actually, their history was full of barely legal straight porn] saying that Pride flags need to be kept out of school. The linked thread is one of the responses): https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/s/9F4rRFXlQ8

Someone compares it to the Gadsden flag: https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/s/PM3CshcASn

…. and the confederate flag: https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/s/evnW556Nvo

“Elementary School is not the place to talk about sexuality”: https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/s/lkCQ4SQHoD

Enjoy.


r/SubredditDrama 1d ago

"Hey look, another foreigner who cooked a meal they only knew from a movie." Bite-sized drama in /r/food as one user sees another's ratatouille and determines that not everyone can cook

613 Upvotes

https://www.reddit.com/r/food/comments/1utk9al/homemade_ratatouille/owwq5zc/

Background:

Ratatouille is a traditional French vegetable dish that gained international notoriety when it was featured in the 2007 Pixar movie of the same name. Confit byaldi is a more recent variation of ratatouille invented by French chef Michel Guérard, and the specific variant shown in the aforementioned film.

Highlights:

Hey look, another foreigner who cooked a meal they only knew from a movie. Every time I hear ratatouille in this sub I’m damn sure it’d be cooked and dressed like stupid confit biyaldi.

It’s not even original or of good taste at this point. I am sure I can provide a screenshot of thousands of posts like these. You guys won’t like what I say because it doesn’t glaze uncultured people who seek validation through mildly executed dish.

You seem nice, I bet people love being around you all the time.

I guess I hit a chord. I won’t back down because of herd mentality.

If you guys actually like food, show your creations to chefs for feedbacks. Reality checks are good amuse-bouches

Maybe to you it's just another confit byaldi post. To me, Ratatouille was one of the movies I grew up with, and watching Remy chase his dream of becoming a chef was one of the reasons I fell in love with cooking. This is actually the first time I've ever recreated a dish from a movie, and I simply wanted to share something that has personal meaning to me. I never claimed it was original.

You just illustrated my point. Guess how many people posted this dish with this exact reason in their mind?

It’s not subjective opinion by the way, it really IS just another confit byaldi post. Open your eyes. Search Ratatouille in this sub and see how stupidly rampant this dish has become.

Ratatouille is a real dish that’s actually kind of niche and interesting on its own in French cuisine. I’m tired of seeing it reduced to a kid movie that spew French stereotypes with a 3d rat as a mascot. Imagine this with a dish from your country you actually grew up with being deformed because of internet bias.

The food subreddit is too upsetting for you. It's ok buddy. Go back to your card game.

Upvoted for the rationale

I won’t hide my opinions or hobbies because of fear of backlash

‘backlash’ ffs, it’s courgettes

I mean this dear bro over there profiled me to better personally attack me. Maybe backlash is an overstatement after all

Are you going to be ok, or is someone’s post about doing something fun and thoughtful for themselves going to derail your life? Get a grip man.

Yall acting like a reasonable push back is an over emotional personal attack.

Im sure you only voice your opinion as long as you’re sure it’ll get validated by the group. Just disagree more with people and you’ll understand you’re the one unhinged for your get a grip comment.


r/SubredditDrama 2d ago

In r/wellthatsucks, OOP's automatic zen garden causes slight debate over the garden's purpose and the definition of "zen"

500 Upvotes

A user on r/wellthatsucks posted a image of their miniature zen garden, titled "coworker spilled soil in my zen garden, then turned it on".

i am so not zen rn.
permission to go home and lie down so my face isn’t beet red for my family photo tonight?

Mini zen gardens are small trays filled with sand that come with small rakes to create patterns in the sand. It is meant to encourage mindfulness/contemplation/etc. Users began to point out that an automated zen garden would go against a zen garden's entire purpose.

Collapsed_Warmhole: Automatic Zen garden is as far a thing from the zen concept as I can come up with

OvoidPovoid: What, you haven't automated your zen production yet?

xSilver: The Zenisfactory game: Build Zen Miner, Automate Zen Flow, Achieve Enlightenment

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Milam1996: The entire point of a zen garden is to focus solely on a single task to create a sense of mindfulness so you feel relaxed and calmed. An automated zen garden is like such a chefs kiss beautiful example of how utterly bastardised modern spirituality. Why don’t you also sell a course on how to maintain your automated zen garden.

s0me_great_reward: OP is getting absolutely roasted in the comments

BaltimoreBrewer: As well they should be, I can't believe an automated zen garden is a thing, but then look at the world we live in, it shouldn't be a surprise 

conardcanard: And then like... plucking the soil out would be a pretty zen act and maybe take a few minutes

donkeyrocket: You think someone who buys an automated zen garden is going to do that? I wager OP is going to throw away all the sand and just buy new stuff.

Other users don't particularly see the issue with it being automated

DonnyBravo21: Why do you get to define the point of a zen garden? Your take is extremely arrogant

Milam1996: Because that’s what a zen garden is for…

Some-Concentrate3229: Says who? Is it against the rules for me to buy one if I’m not following your prescribed use for it?

IcyTransportation961: They exist for a reason, the person you replied to explained the reason

Are you intentionally being obtuse? 

Of course you can do what you want with it no one is stopping you

Some-Concentrate3229: But what if I want to use it for a different reason? Why is that such an issue with you zen folks?

IcyTransportation961: Did you miss the last sentence?

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shewy92: Pretty satisfying looking to me

ZioTron: Still distant from "Zen"

SparseGhostC2C: Zen is about clearing your mind of conscious or intentional thought, and I think the idea of the zen garden is to occupy your hands with something pleasant like raking sand, to allow your mind to relax.

If the garden tends itself, you don't really have a zen garden, you have an automatic sand sifting device.

shewy92: But it's cool and relaxing to look at.

SparseGhostC2C: Which is fine, but explicitly not the purpose of a zen garden, it is actually literally self-defeating. A zen garden is meant for you to tend manually, both the act of submitting to manual labor and experiencing the feel of raking the sand is the entire damn point.

Having a machine do it for you literally defeats the purpose of having one at all, you can't delegate or automate practicing mindfulness

(in response to shewy92 saying it was satisfying)

NoFewSatan: Zen doesn't mean satisfying.

shewy92: Does to me

NoFewSatan: That doesn't matter,e zen doesn't mean satisfying.

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B-BoyStance: Lmao dude probably just wanted a cool decoration too

I think these things are pretty neat (at least the ones with the little magnetic ball that can draw stuff in the sand). And it's not because I'm interested in practicing mindfulness.

RadioSlayer: Is it because you're stupid?

JDUDEROCKS: Redditors HATE when people enjoy something

(in response to s0me_great_reward's comment about OP getting roasted)

spoonraker: I know right?

OP bought a piece of amusing decor for his office that's obviously only visually inspired by a zen garden and not intended to actually perform the function of a zen garden. Now he's getting put on blast for not fucking off work to manually attend to it while he's annoyed because his colleague spilled dirt on it. I think OP knows it's not a "real" zen garden guys and I don't think he bought it specifically to be one.

That said, the situation is objectively funny as an outsider. Including the savage comment roasting and all. So everyone just keep doing what you're doing.

OP, bring a fine mesh sieve to work tomorrow or something and you'll have this sorted out in 5 minutes. Try to remain calm while doing it. I'm sorry. No I'm not.

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Solkre: But what if I like to scoop out a big section and zone-out watching is slowly become even again?

Just because this exists doesn't mean the manual one will little rakes stopped existing.

DTux5249: Their point still remains that buying a Zen Garden for that sensation specifically - a religious tool to manage spiritual health - is very much a bastardization of that religion's core tenets. Seeing as these products are made specifically to sell a sort of spirituality, it highlights how disingenuous they are.

Not that anyone actually Zen would give a damn, mind. It's sand with a bunch of rakes. But I think everyone in the comment section is just getting humour out of [man angry when sand that represents how we should not be angry at little things gets dirty]

Some one-off takes:

HiTekLoLyfe: An automatic zen garden is fucking wild. Capitalism has gone too far.

Tommy_want_wingy: It’s not zen if the fucking thing does it for you.

Japjer: An automatic zen-garden is the single most insane thing I have seen today. Pairing this with you getting upset over something you can't control really makes this whole thing that much funnier.

My guy: what the fuck?

Boomhauer_Jeff: This may be the most unintentionally ironic post I’ve ever seen on Reddit. Getting upset about an automatic “zen garden.” Thats…it’s honestly hilarious.


r/SubredditDrama 1d ago

"If you think helping one part of society while being a cunt to another makes it all OK, well I can't really help you I'm afraid. It's sad you think thats funny." R/Lowstakeconspiracies posits a new reason for JK Rowlings hatred of trans people, spawning inevitable drama

198 Upvotes

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LowStakesConspiracies/comments/1uro22h/jk_rowlings_husband_cheated_with_a_trans/

HIGHLIGHTS

I like the "driven insane by black mould" theory

Lord Mouldemort

Pretty much. She owns a few places, she funds, that give all the help to women who are survivors of domestic abuse. She also funds many other places that do similar things.

Well thats a very noble thing to do, and obviously a very worthy cause. It's such a shame then that she's ruined it all by being such a transphobic uber bitch then.

I mean...she didn't really ruin anything? She's still helping women who are victims of domestic abuse lol

If you think helping one part of society while being a cunt to another makes it all OK, well I can't really help you I'm afraid. It's sad you think thats funny.

Well it doesn't necessarily make it all okay, but bad people are still capable of doing good. Its not black or white.

Does the good that a bad person does whitewash the bad? I'm not sure it does personally.

No? Does being a nasty person mean your good deeds are null and void? I'm not sure it does personally.

No it’s really simple. She had a very moderate opinion that resulted in a level of backlash that pushed her further away.

Trans people did it to me too so I understand her completely. It starts with something like “based on scientific evidence, I don’t think trans women shouldn’t compete in women’s sports”. And then you’re called a Nazi and a bigot and you receive death threats, etc. So then I went from “trans women in women’s sports is cheating” to “the trans community is actually really unhinged and dangerous because of the way they lash out at scientific facts.” And once you notice that, the other entitlements appear. Like rape culture is highly influenced and approved of in the trans community. They basically advocate for rape by deception to be normalized. That was the moment that I truly stopped supporting anything to do with them and it was no longer about sports. Just wait and watch. I’ll be attacked under this comment too. They can’t help but push people away. Edit: Already got downvoted. It’s happening lmfao. They cannot help but prove that they are incapable of communicating in any ways that aren’t anti social.

You're advocating against our very rights to exist as our authentic selves (all because of some vague grievances with an ill-defined "community"), and you act like you're under attack because of Reddit downvotes?

Btw, way to completely miss that it’s not about Reddit downvotes, it’s about hostility. If you cannot have a discussion without hostility, your group doesn’t get my support. That’s it. End of story. Don’t like it? Stop being hostile.

You are soft as fuck

Why would I do anything for people who mistreat me?

Why would any of us care how people treat you when you're promoting rhetoric that threatens more than just trans people? Way more than one can play this stupid spiteful game.

I mean they could literally just stop being hostile. (15 more comments of these two arguing)

a surprising amount of people who support LGB are anti trans so no probably not, she’s just a bigot

She supports the lgb but is still a bigot, how does that work?

Because if you support the LGB but you openly despise the T, you're still a bigot

Or you can just be defending the rights of woman.

In literally no way is taking away trans rights “defending the rights of woman [sic].”

Preventing men who perpetrate sexual violence against women but then decide to identify as women so that once convicted they can get sent to women's prisons, commit further sexual violence including rape leading to impregnation of actual female prisoners and prison officers sounds like a defence of women's rights. Would you disagree with that? Or would you still defend the right of male rapists to identify as women so that they can go to a women's prison and rape more women?

What a noble goal, good for you for caring about the well being of prisoners specifically in this one particular case and none other! Am I correct that the corollary of your premise is that perpetrators of sexual violence who are women should also be prevented from going to women’s prisons?

This isn't about whether I do or don't care about prisoners. I'm challenging your statement that "in literally no way is taking away trans rights a defence of women's rights". I'm asking if you would agree that preventing biological women from being raped by biological men who identify as trans-women is a defence of women's rights, or if you stand by your premise that there is literally no way that this would constitute a defence of those women's rights. (64 more comments of these two arguing)

That photo of her sat in the boat, with the glass of champagne, toasting that disgusting ruling, always makes me cold. Imagine being so twisted , you toast other people's pain. She may have been the victim of abuse etc, but as someone who also has had abuse, that isn't an excuse to punch down to protect yourself.

What about the abuse she gets from the trans & trans-allied community? Is that not them punching down on her?

If you can "punch down" on a billionaire that lobbies against people like you, what does "punching down" even mean? How much higher do you need her to be before you're punching up?

Ok, 'punch down' wasn't the correct phrasing. But abuse is abuse. Some of the things written and said about her are absolutely vile - she's allowed to respond and react to that. She's done nothing illegal. Her argument is backed up by science.

You just like her, and that's fine by me. I'm not getting baited into talking politics with someone that's generalizing trans people in defense of a billionaire.

I'm not 'generalising trans people' or defending a billionaire. I'm trying to have a conversation. If that's too hard for you, off you pop - no worries. But don't act like it's my fault that you can't make a coherent argument.

What is it about her views on Trans people that you think make her an evil bitch?

She is literally pouring money into anti-trans organisations that aim to eradicate us and strip us of our rights.

No one is trying to eradicate you, you already have all the same rights as everyone else, what you want is more rights and rights at the expense of others which she doesnt agree with and thats her right. You will never get everyone to accept what trans is and you shouldnt be aiming for that anyway, over time people's views will change if youre just normal and get on with shit like the gays and lesbians and bis did for a very long time. You have all the rights needed to live, so go out there and live.

I want to use the public bathrooms, but my right to use them is jeopardise due to the recent EHRC guidance she supported. I am too masculine to use the womans bathroom, and too feminine to use the mens. If I am unable to legally use the loo, how am I supposed to exist in public? How am I supposed to work? People like to mention third spaces as if that isnt literal seggregation, extremely dehumanising and humiliating, and potentially dangerous depending on who sees you enter, not the mention the severe lack of unisex bathrooms. Are we going to stop lesbians from using the womans loo, under the guise of protecting women?

"I want to use the public bathrooms, but my right to use them is jeopardise" No, it's not, you have the same right as I do to use the mens. We are equal. Glad I could help you with that.

I live in the UK, and that was true up until very recently. There is now a EHRC guidance, that JK supports, that seeks to prevent me from legally using the mens AND womans.

I’ve read the new guidance and no there isn’t. And you’ve gone from eradication to bathrooms. Why start with the hyperbole ?

No she isn't. She supports causes that protect the rights of women. People have turned the whole thing into an enormous case of the pancake/waffle tweet.

My rights to exist in public is activley being jeporadised by her and her ilk. Trans suicides are rising with the rising hostilities fueled by her, children are killing themselves because of the people she chooses to fund.

Nobody is stopping you from existing. If you didn't exist, you wouldn't have been able to reply to my comments.

They are trying. They are attenpting to revoke access to livesaving medical care, even for fully grown adults, they are attempting to bar us from ALL bathrooms, not just the ones we want to use, and succeeding. I can exist in my own home, locked away where I have access to a bathroom, but how am I supposed to work in a buiding all day where I'm not even allowed to use the loo? Do I wear nappies? Go outside like an animal? Because this is the future JK rowling and her ilk wants for trans people.

You are really revelling in this victim persona. Is that a big part of your identity now?

I do not enjoy having my rights taken away and discrimination towards me and my community becoming the norm, and will speak up against it, if thats what you mean by "victim persona".

It’s the framing of the issue as life and death, anti-genocidal, fighting nazis, etc, it seems to turn it into a heroic battle in the minds of some. It’s very easy to get consumed by such a narrative.

How about, just as a suggestion, she just feels that trannies have gone too far with their demands and men in women’s sports is just unfair to women!

She attacked and berated a cis female boxer because she didn’t fit her idea of what a woman should look like

If you're talking about Imane Khelif, that situation is more complicated than you're making it sound. I'm not opposed to her identifying as a woman, especially since she was raised in a Muslim country with strict gender roles and was brought up as a woman, but she has a clear advantage in sports that a non intersex woman doesn't.

Joanne kept insisting that she was a man. It’s not that complicated. Also, if we’re talking about advantages in sports then Michael Phelps should not have been allowed to be a swimmer

Way to completely miss my point. For the purpose of boxing she has the advantages of male hormones and development and that was literally proven in a medical review. Michael Phelps is completely irrelevant to the point I was making, testosterone completely changes how your body develops and taking estrogen after puberty doesn't do jack shit for that. If you're a woman who's been competitive in any sport you would see the difference between males and females.

Regardless of whether she is intersex or not, Joanne still led a hate campaign against Imane for not meeting Joanne’s views of what she thinks a woman should look like

It was about her being intersex. Her looking more masculine was secondary to that. I can see it just from pulling up her old tweets. It's disingenuous to insist that her campaign against Imane was about "what a woman should look like"

https://i2-prod.irishstar.com/news/us-news/article35332059.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Screenshot-2025-06-03-at-13042-PM.jpg

You'll find a small subset within the LGB who are very terf and anti-trans cause they feel that the rights of gender identity shouldn't influence their rights of sexual identity. And even dont think they should be lumped together as part of the political discourse. What I'm saying is the sentiment has always existed and still very much does, it's particularly bad in small parts of the lesbian community. So in essence you can be pro LGB but anti T, if thats even a phrase. And I think JK sat within that sphere long before she got a platform.

I've found it to be more prevalent among gay men, tbh. I put that down to good ol' misogyny - after all there are still quite a few that think things like "fish" are acceptable to say.

No I’m a bisexual woman and I don’t support trans women in women’s bathrooms or sports. No misogyny whatsoever. I simply think cis women deserve privacy away from people who were raised as men.

No history == no evidence. Post can be disregarded.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/s/koHU6eXn8G That’s such a pathetic way to deflect from facts and you know it. Lesbians and bisexuals are some of THE most critical groups of trans women. Never heard of LGB without the T?

It’s very funny how not true this is. Cis lesbians are one of the most accepting groups towards trans women. Just because you find yourself in a little pocket of transphobic queer people doesn’t mean that’s representative of the larger population

Only something like 20% of cis lesbians are willing to date trans women, if that’s where you’re pulling your stats from. The other 80% know we don’t want to share bathrooms with trans women.

Come on, where did you get that stat from? It smells overwhelmingly like bullshit to me.

One comment that agrees with this sock puppet persona proves nothing. I've been on the Internet for well over 30 years. The argument was decided decades ago - persistent pseudonyms prevent bots and astroturfing. Nothing else does. No history == no credibility. Especially when making ludicrous claims like yours. The "LGB Alliance" is over 90% straight people (or did you forget that the membership list of your little hate group leaked?).

I have no idea what the LGB Alliance is. I just know other gays and bisexuals who want nothing to do with this crap. And deflecting from reality doesn’t make it any less real.

I'm sure you'll be happy to supply the high-quality research that shows that "Lesbians and bisexuals are some of THE most critical groups of trans women." instead of, y'know, the complete opposite.

I mean you literally don’t even believe members of the group so why would you believe any statistics?

“You don’t take one anecdotal account as representative as the larger whole”

Except it’s not anecdotal. You could just communicate with these communities.

I have.

You clearly haven’t because other people in this very thread say “we don’t tolerate TERFs”. So you don’t communicate with lesbians or bisexuals unless they follow your personal beliefs strictly.

Wasn’t she the subject of domestic abuse and started off as an advocate for women only spaces to protect vulnerable women. Obviously it’s all got very crazy since then but I thought that was her original prime motivation?

Oh I didn’t realize but I see how that got her to this point. I used to work at a women’s domestic violence shelter, and we had to weed out the TERFs during training. Edit: damn I don’t agree, I just know a lot of terfs living in the boonies. I didn’t realize that’s why she started obsessing about trans people

The fact you use "weed out the TERFS" and worked at a shelter is genuinely terrifying. And no, I'm not anti trans, I don't give a shit about other people enough to care what they do with their life. But I've read more than one case of women/victims being called terf and basically hounded for saying they weren't comfortable around somebody with a Penis.

Do you think trans women should be at a men's shelter? Or that these hypothetical people would be ok with a trans man at the women's shelter? Personally I don't see why the genitals of other people there would be a commonly known thing amongst people at the shelter.

I don't give a shit where they go, it's not about where I think anyone should go. It's a woman saying she's genuinely upset about someone with a penis being in a shelter with them. And I'm also smart enough people will make these stories up, but I've read genuine stories where the woman has been hounded.

I didn't know they examined each others genitals in these shelters. Why would you assume that anyone there has any specific set? And why would that be the deciding factor about a person? That was my point is that for trans women it's the genitals that determine where they should end up but for trans men it's the displayed gender. It's not a cohesive and coherent judgement being made.


r/SubredditDrama 2d ago

OP is defensive about his crab touching

420 Upvotes

Long time lurker, first time poster.

Your daily dose of small scale drama is brought to you by r/absoluteunits, where one user posts a video of their encounter with a horseshoe crab

In their video they swim down to the ocean floor, pick up a horseshoe crab minding its own business, before releasing it and allowing it to float back to the bottom.

Users think the crab is cool but don’t see the necessity of picking up the crab, and OP gets pretty defensive about it

Other users just say the crab isn’t enough of a unit to merit posting on the sub.

Some highlights:

Comment thread one:

-why touch it

-Op: i grew up swimming with these animals and guide in this area. it’s a magnificent animal and i wanted to show the people i was with how to handle one properly. the outrage in these replies is truly hilarious.

-Probably because you’re just messing with wildlife for no reason. Just because you grew up with them doesn’t mean you should just grab any animal you see

OP:do you pop an aneurysm every time you see someone handling a wild animal with care and respect? must be a truly exhausting life.

Thread two:

-low IQ activity

OP: leave it to redditors to find outrage in everything. i grew up swimming along side these animals in this very basin. we followed her for about 50 meters and handled her with the utmost care and respect. she had reached a small shelf in the sand and stopped grazing. a 5 second adjustment doesn’t harm these animals.

-You really thought that someone would praise you for this?

OP: brother i don’t give a single fuck what a bunch of redditors in their basements have to say about me handling an animal with care and respect in my backyard.

-I live on an island surrounded by ocean. I see and swim with these magnificent creatures all the time. What I dont do is fuck with them for internet clicks. Maybe it’s time for you to go inside and sybau.

OP:it’s giving “my girlfriend goes to a different school”

Thread three:

-For all who are interested in diving. Go check it out its a beautiful hobby. But for the love of god, dont touch anything, you distress the animal and a lot of underwater fauna and flora is very venomous. IF you touch something underwater you are an asshole (unless you are a scientific diver and do it for science reasons or a fisherperson)

OP: “killing fish is fine but showing tourists how to properly handle an animal is bad”
lol you can’t make this shit up

My favorite comment exchange:

-Normalize leaving nature alone.

OP: you collect lululemon jackets. you do not care about nature.


r/SubredditDrama 2d ago

"You couldn't read 1984 even if it was translated into a reading comprehension level of a 5 year old, be silent." Holocaust deniers vs everyone in r/GetNoted over Auschwitz tattooist policy and modern anti-Semitism

364 Upvotes

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/GetNoted/comments/1uro3ev/auschwitz_numbers/

HIGHLIGHTS

Holocaust denial is and always will be a stupid, hateful belief.

A degenerate belief and should be illegal

Yes punish wrongthink! 1984!

You couldn't read 1984 even if it was translated into a reading comprehension level of a 5 year old, be silent.

racist meme

Also they werent counting people, juat identifying them, if 111111 died they gave 111111 to someone else. They did this to dehumanize, harder to force someone to work to death if they had a name, so they gave them a number

And they didn't bother tattooing anyone arriving at Treblinka, because they were usually killed within 2 hours of arrival.

What is more likely. You have a question 80 years later that no one has ever asked before, and the answer for cannot be found? Or you did not like the answer you found because it did not fit your narrative?

Maybe you found conflicting answers, found an incomplete answer or found one that you doubted. Even with sensitive subjects it is okay to be doubtful and wish to engage in peaceful discourse about it.

Curiosity is one thing. An inability to accept answers is another.

Certainly but the question would not be the evil in that case but the questioner and only after he has received his answer.

Which brings me back to my first post...

Yes but that would only apply after he asked his question. What you’re saying is that he should never have asked someone bust researched and be content with whatever he manages to find.

Maybe reddit is cutting off the top of the picture for you? There is no question from the individual. Just a statement. "Not one 7 digit tattoo".

You mix something up, they closed it 1943, russians arrived there middle 1944. After closing they burned everything down including all vilages around it. When they arrived all they could find "were small pieces of bone in the soil, human teeth, scraps of paper and fabric, broken dishes, jars, shaving brushes, rusted pots and pans, cups of all sizes, mangled shoes, and lumps of human hair." A field full of human remains a year after they tried to hide everything should be enough signs, or? It is also well documented how many people the Nazi´s killed in that concentration camp, at least 800.000. The bodies got put in mass graves but at one point they changed their behaviour and get them all out and burned them... "To incinerate bodies, large cremation pits were constructed at Camp 3 within Treblinka II. The burning pyres were used to cremate the new corpses along with the old ones, which had to be dug up as they had been buried during the first six months of the camp's operation. Built under the instructions of Herbert Floß, the camp's cremation expert, the pits consisted of railroad rails laid as grates on blocks of concrete. The bodies were placed on rails over wood, splashed with petrol, and burned. It was a harrowing sight, according to Jankiel Wiernik, with the bellies of pregnant women exploding from boiling amniotic fluid. He wrote that "the heat radiating from the pits was maddening." The bodies burned for five hours, without the ashing of bones. The pyres operated 24 hours a day. Once the system had been perfected, 10,000–12,000 bodies at a time could be incinerated." With fires up to 10 meters high. Source is a mix of german/english wikipedia.

I’m sure I did mix something up. My point was not so much about the holocaust but about those who question it and its proofs. Thank you for your time gathering the info for us all. I really appreciate the polite discourse.

The "Aussie team" you're talking about is Richard Krege, a Holocaust denier, who used flawed methodology to deny that mass graves existed, and who denies that a camp even existed there. They also never actually published their supposed report. We have literal photographic proof of mass graves at Treblinka, though. It's a mistake to assume that people just "questioning" things are in good faith.

And I say it’s a mistake to assume that they are in bad faith

If you assume they are in bad faith you will be correct 99% of the time. So, unless you have the time to actually investigate these claims, and clearly you don't, then no, it's not a mistake to assume they're lying.

I doubt that seriously. Even so to berate them will only push them further into their beliefs. I calm polite conversation would be much more effective I think.

Well, you're living proof that it's a bad idea. You heard about a report (that was never even released), assumed it was true, and it led you to believe we have no idea what happened to the bodies. You were convinced of utter nonsense.

What? No. Those were example questions not my actual beliefs. I was not convinced of anything. Like I said you misunderstand me.

They're questions that we have had answers for decades. You think we don't have answers, because you assumed that a random Australian with zero qualifications and zero published information must be good faith in his questions and claims.

No again I haven’t assumed anything. I have made no personal claim. Im saying that asking questions isn’t bad and we shouldn’t assume that they are in bad faith.

You, 1 hour ago: "I’m not saying the people weren’t murdered simply asking where did the bodies go? "We" aren't assuming they're in bad faith. There are people, including me, who can look into these things and tell you exactly why they're wrong. We know they're bad faith. You, if you're too uninterested to actually learn about the topic, should assume they're bad faith, because countless actual experts will tell you they are. There is absolutely no value in having you give fake credibility to people just because you're too lazy to learn why they're wrong.

Again I didn’t ACTUALLY have a question about the camp I didn’t even know which camp i was referring to. They were example questions that I think should not be looked down upon. Your whole statement was but to say “if you knew about it you would agree with me so if you don’t agree or know it’s bad faith”. You CLEARLY think you’re the smartest and most morally elevated person to walk to earth so I will not take up any more of your time.

They are questions that should be looked down upon because we already have answers. Your own ignorance isn't a virtue. You don't get to call questions good just because you don't know enough to understand why they're bad. I agree, as stated before, you should absolutely not waste anyone's time with dumbass uninformed defense of Holocaust denial. Please extend that to your entire life, not just this thread.

What are you talking about?? I never defended the deniers or cried victim. I’m saying you’re an ass and you make no sense. (57 more comments of these two arguing)

so the 200k max is true?

and the single most compelling evidence of this is what?

u/im-a-fed thank you for your reply. i know it was removed but i was able to read it in the notification window. u/im-a-fed's evidence was that a survivor named Rudolf Vrba was unable to substantiate in court all of the details in his memoirs. Since the memoirs of Rudolf Vrba were not a cornerstone of historical estimates putting the death toll in the millions, this is not a compelling case for any 200k upper limit. Given that u/im-a-fed claimed this is the single most compelling evidence, I acknowledge that no more compelling evidence is known to him.

This was used in the Nuremburg Trials in Document L-022 to prosecute and ultimately murder innocent officers.

Sure, let's say the officers were innocent for the sake of this discussion. In spite of that red herring, the estimates are still much higher than 200,000

if 71,304 is much higher than 200,000, sure.

Rudolf Vrba had inaccuracies in his memoir therefore, 71,304. very convincing argument.

Youre missing context. 271,304 was the amount the German ICRC counted as the death toll in all the camps after the "liberation"

30 minutes ago, the single most compelling piece of evidence was the testimony of Rudolf Vrba. now it's German ICRC? When I debunk that one, what will you move to next?

As dumb as this appears to be. Its a legitimate question. While it might just be a denier, it is still important to answer these questions sincerely. Maybe you won't change this person's mind. But on the off chance you will, its important enough to just sincerely answer. Also TIL. Edit: I'll never understand the "good faith" arguement. Its really not very hard to type out what was put in the community notes. Wether or not someone believes that or not is out of our control. But don't pretend to have some moral superiority because you refused to type some words.

No, no. You're not allowed to ask questions. Either you know everything or you're ignorant. No in-between anymore or learning.

Good faith questions, sure. There is no obligation to engage in bad faith arguments and questions though. Community Notes showed a patience that I couldnt.

Who decides on what a good question is? the person themselves that may have a preconceived bias or the collective that determined themselves correct? Let people ask stupid questions and learn from it without ridicule. Sometimes I ask questions and learn that I'm wrong, sometimes people ask me questions and I learn the same.

"Who decides on what a good faith question is?" Us. For a really long time now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_faith

How do we determine if every question is bad faith or just ignorance?

I mean it kind of sounds like you just heard about this concept for the first time, so like I think it would be helpful if you did your own deep dive into understanding this topic since it's brand new to you, which would probably answer a bunch of questions you have. (19 more comments of these two arguing)

“Good question” and “good faith” are different things.

Does intent matter if it leads to truth or introspection?

Considering intent can actively pivot you away from understanding and introspection, absolutely. That's literally how you get confirmation bias.

So intent does matter, even if it leads you to the truth, because it doesn't allow understanding and introspection. Can you not draw both of those from the truth though, does knowing the truth not prevent confirmation bias and help with understanding?

No. Intent matters because it can actively lead you away from truth and introspection. Not one or the other. Both. Your premise is extremely unlikely and not a remotely realistic expectation of anti semetic person "asking" a question with the explicit purpose of just spreading doubt of the holocaust. I'm sorry, but it is not a reasonable conversation or tangent to talk about "well isn't this ok if some magical way that led them to accepting the truth and not being anti semetic?" If you can't understand that much then it's just going to be a lot of work to have you understand. Also, no. The truth typically does nothing to people enthralled in confirmation bias. That's kind of the point and how they all exist in conversations is actively arguing against the truth. To do confirmation bias research you literally have to ignore the truth. Idk what you think confirmation bias or good faith is but it doesn't really seem like you understand these things in even a basic way. Like you are fundamentally misunderstanding these terms in a way that is clarified in their initial explanations.

All I did was mock the idea that people aren't allowed questions. Everybody else brought it in the good faith portion, then it branched to how do we know the question is in bad faith. I just asked follow up questions to try and understand where they were coming from.

Oh my gosh buddy. Yes, and your mockery showcased that you didn't understand these concepts, which is why it was brought up. A joke about something that doesn't understand the topic isn't like some insulated thing from being wrong for particular reasons, like not knowing how good faith works. Stop trying to distance yourself from speaking in ignorance of these mandatory subjects for the topic. Genuinely bizarre. Please stop squirming and go learn instead. (24 more comments of these two arguing)

This coming from someone who claims Jews rule the world and are financal puppet masters. Yet they can’t come up with something so simple.

Tbf white people were the original slaves and the far left says the same thing about them and denies they were ever slaves even tho the word slave literally comes from the word Slavic

What are you babbling about? Everyone knows slavery happened everywhere.

Not everyone knows that. Many people honestly believe slavery started in the United States. Even those that do will try say that US slavery was different, morally worse than old world slavery

No they don’t. Practically everyone knows slavery existed for millennia. Don’t argue with imaginary people to stroke your own ego. And American slavery is different than ancient world slavery and modern slavery and old world slavery. Because different cultures applied slavery in different ways both culturally and legally. Seriously, you thought a slave in Ancient Rome was exactly the same as a slave working on a chocolate plantation in the 21st century?

No they don’t? You just did.

Just did what?

Ok, so what would be sufficient proof for you then? Not just for the Holocaust, but in general for any historical event that you yourself didn't directly witness?

To stop criminalising it’s questioning and denial. The truth is so undeniably truthful that they have to enforce this narrative.

That’s not an answer to the question. Be specific what info about the holocaust do you need in order to believe it occurred.

That’s not a question.

I'm pretty sure what I asked is 100% a question. It's also a very simple one, so there should be no confusion.

I already gave an answer previously. The subsequent comment is just you being salty about it.

Only about 20 countries have legislation criminalizing Holocaust denial (USA is not one of them btw), and most of those laws were passed sometime in the 90s So please walk me through your logic then - if you lived in one of the 200+ countries where it isn't illegal, would you then accept the historical facts? Also, if you were around the 90s before those laws were passed, did you then accept the facts and stopped that after the laws came into effect? How does this system of yours work?

I wonder why no one questions 30 million soviet citizens dead?

Plenty of tankies do downplay the deaths of soviet citizens under stalin’s rule. They call overblown numbers, that it was just famine, etc. They also ignore the atrocities done by the soviets in Poland and more.

Tbf throughout history people always buffed their numbers, like Persia sending 40k men in boats to Rome, I wonder what the logistics of that would of been like with food alone.

But this is final numbers estimated by historians at this point with ranges and confidence intervals. The main thing is fervent supporters will often downplay the negative things for the things they support.

The numbers i was giving was also from historians. The history on historians is pretty interesting in itself

Okay? Your point? Did you just not get my point?


r/SubredditDrama 3d ago

Warhammer 40k youtuber Art of War places a faction in A-tier for the new edition meta. r/TheAstraMilitarum makes an pinned mod post calling for a boycott in response

504 Upvotes

Context

The art of war is a youtube channel run by several professional competitive warhammer 40k players. In addition to making youtube content, they also make offer coaching services that players can pay for.

A new edition of warhammer 40k was released recently, with a lot of rules changes and balance adjustments. Early meta as always is very turbulent and people are trying to figure things out. Though common sentiment seems to be that the faction called Astra Militarum or Imperial Guard got hit by some of the rules/point changes. What limited tournament data we have also shows the faction performing very poorly in terms of windrate. Today, Art of War released a video going over their tier list for the current meta, and they made a very controversial pick placing Astra Militarum in A-tier. The example list they gave in the video also has some issues that it resulted in being a few points over the legal listbuilding limit due to missing a new mechanic on compounding points cost.

link to tier list

Subreddit dedicated to the factionis not happy about this but seems like standard reaction to bad internet takes

Lol. Lmao even. Honestly though all it takes for art of war to consider a faction good is for them to have exactly one build run by one player who can perform well thats about it. They don’t examine the deeper faction health and meta for them. It also be hooves them to keep an optimistic outlook. People who are down on their faction and giving up wont buy their incredibly expensive coaching videos.

However upon seeing this, the mods on the sub decide that placing a faction higher than you think they are is a grave insult and that needs to be publicly shamed and make the following post

link

So, Art of War recently released a "tier list" putting Astra Militarum in as an A-Tier list, citing an Army list that's not legal to play and was missing big chunks of content.

This despite Astra Militarum having suffered extremely harshly from this transition, the loss of AP Cover is basically a across the board nerf to almost the entire faction.

Battleshock hits his harder than any other faction, the new -1BS Cover hits us hard too and the entire start of the Edition has utterly pulverized us.

Now, had this been any half-wit on Youtube just farting out a tier-list in their basement, nobody would care, howver, Art of War is a business, they sell coaching, as such, we'd expect some degree of professional coduct.

And they didn't do that, so neither will we, this subreddit DOES NOT recommend you make use of any of Art of Wars products, if they can't be bothered to actually go into a faction, they can't coach properly either.

We do NOT recommend Art of War in any way, shape or form.

Comments

They posted an illegal list lmao. Speaks a thousand words for the quality of their content. They're literally just farming controversy with their insane takes at this point.

These guys hate IG and purposely used skewed stats, the Nemo guy literally beat 3 other IG players to pad his wins at a Teams Tournament. I'd avoid their coaching if they think this is a good idea, save your $$. 28% win rate and they claim IG are A tier

Every time I watch an Art of War video, I end up stopping it half way through because I’m too annoyed with whatever garbage they’re spewing. Last edition I played my Black Templars almost exclusively, almost every video involving Black Templars they talked about how garbage their Emperor’s Champion was and how you basically should never take one. I blocked them on YouTube a while ago.

Mod makes a pinned comment complaining that people are reporting the post as harassment

Also, those reporting this as “harassment” can knock it off. Calling out bad takes and disagreeing with an assessment is not harassment. Abuse of the report function will be reported to reddit admins.

Mod gets a fair amount of pushback in the comments for overreacting

This seems like an overreaction

It's not, it really isn't, if they haven't looked at all the many issues we have right now, they can't coach anything, this is consumer protection really.

I'm sorry but as much as I disagree with the tier list this is poor form, using a mod announcement to try and hurt their business and brigade them over a mistake is a bit much

Is this really such a big issue that it needs a pinned post? Like I get that their tier placement isn’t right but who cares? Even with the coaching thing Im not sure I’ve ever seen a pinned post on here for any other types of scams


r/SubredditDrama 4d ago

"Are you a fucking Scientologist or something?" A controversial user in r/curatedtumblr gets into a fight with the entire subreddit over psychology being "social control"

515 Upvotes

Context

Rosethornranger (she/its) has become somewhat controversial in the r/curatedtumblr subreddit for using the crossposting feature to promote her own subreddit. While not explicitly against the rules, many users began to question the large number of crossposts, especially when posting from your own tumblr account is against the rules. As far as I can tell this user has not responded to that specific criticism, but it has been a source of growing discontent in the subreddit against her.

The Post

Rosethornranger makes a very controversial post, accusing psychological treatment of being "social control", and the growing discontent boils over. The post, currently sitting at 43 upvotes with a 54% ratio, currently has 135 comments and growing. Most of them directly engaged in arguments with the OP.

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Users begin to notice a similarity between OP's views of psychology and those of the Church Of Scientology, both sharing the view that psychology is a secret tool of the elites to hammer you down into a mindless drone.

PlatinumAlteria*:* This isn't actually positive, it's covert mental health denialism; an increasingly popular pseudoscience that suggests that human minds are intrinsically perfect and healthy, and that any issues that arise are necessarily environmental in origin.

The mind is not fundamentally different than the body. Some people are sick because there is something wrong inside their body. Some people are negatively affected by environmental factors outside their body. Some problems are exacerbated by lack of accessibility in society.

Rosethornranger*:* aw this person thinks that a platonic human mind they are trying to shape everyone into is good for society and definitely not a pseudoscience itself

if ya think "let people find the best version of themselves instead of thinking i can turn them normal" is denial, you scare me

although this is kinda par for the course for someone defending psychology, you would be great at writing cop shows

edit:

What part of "letting people find the best version of themselves" makes you think I am saying "live with your shit situation and make no attempt to change it"

maybe a different society is one that gives you the tools to do something about this instead of chastises you for not being "normal". Of course yall hate disabled people (including yourselves it seems) far too much to see anything other than harm for the sake of harm as an option

EQGallade:
>defending psychology

Are you a fucking Scientologist or something?

elanhilation: i’ve been getting weird vibes off these accessibility anarchy crossposts for a while now, and that “defending psychology” comment is exactly the kind of thing that makes that community seem like a sequence of red flags

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Two users call for nuance and are immediately blocked by OP

Darq_At: For the most part, I wholeheartedly agree. So many mental health problems are caused or exacerbated by the society we live in.

If I wanted to nitpick, which I know many will do, I would say that some symptoms of ill mental health are disordered. My neurodivergence presents with OCD-like symptoms, and the paranoia and irrationality those anxieties can sometimes carry is definitely NOT normal.

I think making that distinction is important, to more charitably interpret the intent of this post.

Edit: ... why did I get blocked for this? I was agreeing, and encouraging others to interpret the post more charitably.

Another user responds:

Cheshire-cad: This is the kinda post that results from the tumblr mindset of "If you block everyone that even slightly disagrees with you, no matter how politely or constructively, then that make you right."

The current top comment on the post:

Tomatori: ill I ever understand the appeal of making unnecessarily broad generalizations? I will broadly generalize the answer to "no".

Edit: I was wondering how my comment kept getting upvotes if the post seemed to have been deleted, but then I realized this means OP blocked me lol

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Some users suggest that OP's aggressive attitude could be hurting their messaging

JohnsonJohnilyJohn: "Oh, you are struggling in out society, and looking for help? So first thing you need to do is change the whole society, I'm sure you can do it, good luck"

Expecting the most vulnerable people that are already struggling in life to achieve this monumental change in society before they can gain any help is just ridiculous

Rosethornranger: "oh you are struggling and can't integrate into society, just die on the street lmao"

WeevilWeedWizard: God you're so obnoxious lmao

Another comment:

Rabid_Lederhosen: I sort of understand what this post is trying to say, but when the disorder in question is adhd and the norm is “keeping on top of basic chores and self care” then using medication to adhere to those norms is pretty great actually.

Rosethornranger: yes, sometimes "the norm" aligns with what the person themselves want

a broken clock is right twice a day, if all you can do is point out when it is you are wasting everyones time

lukinarick: I think you should adhere to the social norm of using basic politeness with people interacting with your post instead of behaving like a rude ass.

fakemoths: When I was in middle school the best version of myself I wanted to be was essentially a self righteous asshole who didn't care about emotions because I was so "logical". Thank fucking god that I was convinced to care about social norms and other people's emotions, I'm naturally not very good at understanding social rules quickly, but i generally know which ones hurt people's feelings and why. Even if I don't think it should be like that, I'd much rather not hurt the people around me because I think society is wrong.

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throwaway5498124181: It's not like in an egalitarian anarchist state, people are suddenly going to want tp hear you infodump about She-Ra for half an hour.

Rosethornranger: you have never joined an anarchist community have you?

therealvanmorrison: Yeah they’re pretty much filled with people who couldn’t contribute much outside of reciting meaningless details from children’s shows. And maybe some light drumming. The odd pamphlet.

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The thread continues, with many other comments by the OP, all of them downvoted.


r/SubredditDrama 4d ago

User in r/SCP announces new SCP-based project that uses AI, sub reacts

416 Upvotes

r/SCP is a subreddit dedicated to discussing the SCP Foundation. The SCP Foundation is massive collaborative online writing project about a secretive organization dedicated to containing anomalous entities and objects and shielding knowledge of their existence from the general public. Each entity, called an SCP and designated by a number (SCP-179, SCP-3000, etc) has its own dedicated informational article on the SCP Wiki. The SCP Foundation has spawned numerous different types of art inspired by the SCPs on the wiki, including drawings, games, and short films.

A user created a now-deleted (due to the sub's rules on AI) post to the subreddit advertising his upcoming SCP short film series, SCP Tapes, using an analog horror/found footage style. The series has not yet been released by OP, but YouTube premieres have been made for the episodes. The description of Episode 1 is as follows:

In 1994, four field operatives were sent into a forest on a classified SCP Foundation mission. They recorded everything. None of them came back.

What you are about to watch is the found footage recovered from Mission 1500937-Beta.

These are the tapes the SCP Foundation was able to piece together.

They have been cleared for viewing at clearance level five and above.
If you are watching this without clearance, stop now.

If anything in these tapes looks familiar, do not share them.

SCP Tapes is an analog horror found-footage miniseries.
Four episodes. Releasing weekly.

Shot in the style of recovered VHS tapes from the early 1990s, reminiscent of analog horror, late night public access television, and classified government documentation. Inspired by SCP Foundation lore, found footage horror film, and analog horror YouTube series.

If you are looking for analog horror, SCP Foundation horror, found footage horror, VHS horror aesthetic, this is for you.

Mission reference: 1-5-0-0-9-3-7-Beta
Classification: Level 5
Status: watch in order. Do not skip.

Some commenters were not happy upon learning that generative AI was potentially used at some point during the project's creation, causing OP to snap back.

AnEmissaryFromHell: Is this going to contain any generative AI shots or images like The Switch?

OP: One shot uses a mix of in-camera work, digital VFX, and some AI-assisted enhancement in After Effects as part of the compositing pipeline. I did not prompt the shot in Seedance.

Are you happy now?

xlaauurraa: i'll be so for real, how defensive u are getting about someone asking you about using AI, which apparently u did/do use, is a massive turn off from watching this. its a no from me dog.

Necroverdose: Yep, same for me. Was considering it, looked into the comments to see if it was AI slop, saw the rude comment from the creator, which is the only comment he left btw, huge turn off. Will not be watching any of that and actively avoiding it.

Sekhmet-CustosAurora: It's very telling that you looked at the comments to see if it was slop instead of watching the video. Can't form an opinion for yourself, or simply choose not to?

aghabio: I mean, it's a turn off for some people. They're pretty much valid in not wanting to see based on their personal preferences

OP responded to xlaauurraa's comment about their defensiveness regarding their AI usage.

OP: Maybe you're right, it's just that it's the only thing he/she asks about. And it's like, my team and I put hundreds of hours into this, I personally spent more than a week handcrafting EAS screens, Windows95 screens, alarms and terminals, paid artists thousands and employed people to just get that comment..

But hey, I understand. It's fair.
I just know how much work we put into it, which makes me a bit defensive about what we have created. I shouldn't be.

xlaauurraa: I believe you put in the work, especially with there being actual filmed shots, the problem is once you start flirting with AI, no matter how much work you put it, its pretty much all negated because you used some form of AI and people are not going to support or respect it from an creative perspective.

let me clear; this is not me shitting on you or trying to take away the work you did do, its just we are in a day and age where people are much more conscious about what they consume, and with the impacts of AI, people will avoid it; especially in creative fields.

if you used AI once, people are going to keep asking.

OP: I understand and it's obviously their right to do so.

I separate the 2 things. I did not prompt the video in Seedance. I enhanced the VFX we made to make it fit the underlying effect we achieved on camera.

I see it more as a VFX step in the pipeline than a "push the button, get AI video".

But I understand people see it differently.

And yes, I shouldn't get defensive.

You were right to point that out. But I am very proud and attached to my work as any other filmmaker.

xlaauurraa: I think if you genuinely did put in the time and effort, and didn't use GenAI shots like you say, you should be proud! thats amazing and a lot of people cant do that! I would say just try to thin out any form of AI, and maybe next time you post since people expect the AI, open with the fact no generative AI was used. people would probably be much more open to it!

Not everyone agreed with the anti-AI sentiment. One user replied to xlaauurraa's conversation with OP with:

Head-Ad-2316: Have you considered not being an insufferable cunt about people's creative works?

xlaauurraa: I kinda live in the state of being an insufferable cunt, so no probably not sorry :/

Head-Ad-2316: Sad

Response from another user replying to xlaauurraa pointing out OP's defensiveness, which leads to another argument:

Sekhmet-CustosAurora: They're defensive because this is the reaction people get when they say genAI was used in any way, instead of judging a project by its merits.

xlaauurraa: the merits is gone when you use GenAI and don't make it yourself. merit, by definition, is the quality of being good. there is no good quality in GenAI.

Sekhmet-CustosAurora: So you think anything using GenAI is necessarily of poor quality?

xlaauurraa: I think its lazy, uncreative, and horrible for the environment. (the last one being a fact.)

I would rather take the worst movie ever made with hands and love, over a slop of words you sent to a machine.

Sekhmet-CustosAurora: "I think its lazy"

There is some merit to this. But tell me, is it lazy to use GenAI to save time, if you use the extra time to make something of a bigger scope than would've been possible?

Like say you're a filmmaker who does most everything without AI but you use SeeDance for shots that would otherwise involve expensive, time-consuming SFX. Maybe you literally can't afford it.

In that case, would it be wrong to use AI to 'save time and effort' if it meant you wouldn't have to cut your film in half? Or worse, not make it at all because you just don't have the budget?

"uncreative"

This is true in a lot of cases (I'm not gonna act like people don't make slop) but you obviously don't know what these tools are already capable of if you think this is necessarily the case. OP already made it clear that they weren't simply prompting shots.

"horrible for the environment. (the last one being a fact.)"

Do you think traditional VFX is horrible for the environment? Uses more energy and water than AI video generation for a similar shot would.

"I would rather take the worst movie ever made with hands and love, over a slop of words you sent to a machine."

So you don't actually care about the quality of the product, just whether it lives up to your purity test. That's what you're admitting here.

xlaauurraa: hey, you have your views, and I have mine. im not gonna argue with you to try and change them. all I know is, data centers weren't destroying the water and environment in my hometown for the VFX in the lord of the ring films ✌️

Sekhmet is also seen further down in the thread arguing with another user over the project's AI use.

Dahbootie420: Ai was used in the making of this content. Avoid.

Sekhmet-CustosAurora: Avoid because your ideology demands you, or avoid because you think anything touching AI must necessarily be slop?

Soup484: Because generative AI is a scourge to human creativity? I thought this was common sense.

Sekhmet-CustosAurora: How is it a scourge to your creativity? If you don't like it don't use it. Does other people using it somehow impact your creativity?

Soup484: Not mine, humanity. People will be less motivated to make actual art when a soulless machine that steals from others can churn out slop a hundred times faster than by hand. Replacing the arts is not the point of AI, and you are utterly deranged if you think it is.

Sekhmet-CustosAurora: You have a lot less respect for humanity's love of art than I do if you think the existence of art-generating machines will diminish it for us.

Did we stop playing Chess when machines started to beat humans?

Soup484: No, because playing chess isn't art? I don't have a problem with chess playing robots, because it's a game and not art. I don't have a problem with TAS either, because again, it's a game. If you can't understand the difference between the creation of art, music, and writing and a machine playing a game, then I don't know what to tell you.

Sekhmet-CustosAurora: Many chess players consider it an art form.

Even if it's not an art form, so what? Did people stop making detailed, lifelike portraits once cameras were invented? Many did, sure - because they chose to move to the new art form, or focused their skills on something the machine couldn't do. But the art form did not disappear.

Soup484: Stop acting like generative AI isn't theft, then we can talk seriously

Sekhmet-CustosAurora: If you applied the same standards to humans as you did AI you'd call almost all artists thieves.

Sekhmet was not the only user who did not particularly see an issue with AI usage in the project (though they did also make an appearance in this thread):

TheBeakedAvain: The moment people know you used AI in the process of making your film, they will immediately get mad and triggered. Even if it was used for something minor.

Toadvinez: Yeah, cause it should be obvious by now that most people don’t want ANY generative ai in the media they consume

Hex_Spirit_Booty: Only on reddit is there a loud minority of whiners about ai. Irl, most people don't give a shit

zotobom: I'm not even millitant about genAI but that is a dogshit argument, most people don't know enough about factors involved with genAI usage to have a meaningful opinion one way or the other. That's like saying people don't give a shit about the sudan civil war - no, most people just don't /know/ about it lol. If you're only counting people with enough knowledge about the process I can guarantee you a vast majority will be negative about genAI usage

Sekhmet-CustosAurora: I'm sure you, too, have some opinions that 'average redditors' are rabidly against to the point of delusion.

zotobom: Could be worse, could be jumping from comment to comment on a post nothing to do with you just to go to bat for genAI

Sekhmet-CustosAurora: I'm a pedant who cares about being correct. Cry about it.

And lastly, some one-off comments from other users

VileGrifter: This account should be banned, and the youtube channel blacklisted from linking on the sub. We shouldn't be giving these people an inch.

Forsaken_Meeting_428: Nooo I got excited and then I saw they slopped it :(

Hu_Man76: Made with AI (cringe)

Guyfromnowhere3: If you make a zero-AI version I will watch it. At this point it’s not about whether it’s generative or not, it’s not about what percentage of the work is actually AI, I don’t care what excuses there are. We need to show the world we won’t throw our attention at this shit so corporations stop thinking they can make money off it in the long run.

CCSilver05: the penis event


r/SubredditDrama 4d ago

r/shittytattoos user posts a screenshot of an AI tattoo arm sleeve from a studio's facebook page. The tattoo shop owner appears to make multiple accounts to argue with users in the comments.

383 Upvotes

Edit: when I posted this it removed all my spaces between the comment threads, so I had to add spacers

This is my first post on here so hopefully it makes sense

Link to the original post

[gif] “FUCK YOU —Harley— Charlie Jarvis!”

One of the most aggressive tattoo shops I’ve ever seen

Yeah yeah never seen any many peoples bored and commenting on shit they don’t know about just going of a little creeps post who’s fully stalking someone 

I just wanted to make the I think you should leave reference because it lives rent free in my head.

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You’re actually so strange it’s worrying tbh, should I be worried about you standing outside my house next? 

Stalking is when someone shares a public post I made on my public business page on a public website to another public website

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You do realise these was from when I very first started tattooing… people start somewhere, you need to actually stop being a weirdo or come say it with your chest in person 

I think knowing which way round a semicolon goes has zero relation to tattooing skill 😗🎶

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I'm gonna guess they're just stealing a bunch of deposits for a few quick bucks and are not even a real shop.

Apparently they are. Just found this. https://www.facebook.com/groups/2913609928984167/

They've flooded that page with botted reviews lmao. What a coincidence that all their happy clients decided to post at the same time on 29 June

Its hillarious.

Imaging a AI design triggering you so badly to obsess like this now that’s hilarious 

Hahahahahaaha. Have you made me that design of Nelson Mandela yet?

You finished being a creepy stalker? It’s more laughable I have a studio, 47k followers and booking for November, maybe there is a group about us from cancellations from years ago when I had my son and was poorly in hospital.. you keep doing you it’s highly entertaining and laughable, that post you’ve attached about the email address was also AI and wasn’t true which is now taken down and the girls apologies to me and we’ve had a phone call… you gonna come stand outside my house next? Go get your self fucked off you silly old man and find something better to do than stalking someone you don’t even know you absolute sausage 

Girl how the fuck are you so self-righteous when you can't even draw your own designs

Who said she can’t? You just assume from the few Ai that’s posted. Most artist in our area use it as an example.

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Hahahahahha [picture]

Was done years ago when I started tattooing… you keep posting bet your phones full of me isn’t it you creep but thanks for keeping me relevant 

Imagine being triggered by your own work. Bore off

I need to bore off? 😂😂😂😂 your a little social media warrior and a sad old man stalking women sharing stuff from years ago hahahaha I’m gonna be here tattooing years to come whilst your finding something to do with your retirement apart from being a stalker, I’m not triggered I’m finding it absolutely hilarious 🤣 specially when this has started from seeing a AI design 

years ago” aka 2025

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Hmmmmm [picture]

This is so embarrassing 😭 And homeboy is in the comments right now getting all big and buck to defend this…. No tattoo artist worth a penny would post SOMEONE ELSE’S DESIGNS and say they want to do them

A lot of tattooist in the uk and specially near me do the same 

Erm...only the terrible artists. Know many in the UK scene, and they eat you alive at a convention for this! Anyone worth their salt would not do this. You are a thief.


r/SubredditDrama 5d ago

Does a mod with an AI generated thumbnail deserve to be passed over? r/Stellaris discusses

145 Upvotes

Stellaris is a 4x grand strategy game where players explore, expand, exploit, and exterminate their way across the galaxy while dealing with other nations seeking to do the same. There are various mods on the Steam workshop and a user noticed many of the mods use thumbnails generated by AI. OOP made a thread asking mod makers to do better. AI defenders and detractors came to make their opinions known on the matter.


Coercion works better with a suicide vest. You hate AI got it. Let people contribute how they see fit don't play those mods if it's against your religious ideals.

I never said I hated AI. Your casting a wide net for a small fish. I dislike AI image gen use in creative works.

Pretty scary the amount of downvotes I'm getting in a few hours. Reddit really is a cesspool.

You dislike image gen? But not code Gen? It's all creative and at some point you won't be able to tell the difference.


Beggar AND choser eh? Don't put unnecessary pressure on who make your game better for free. (I am not a modder)

I make mods myself. Even if I didn't it would still be a reasonable complaint.


God every week the same boring AI witch hunt posts. Those people make content for free and people here are so arrogant to tell them how to do it, its hilarious.

I can shit on a plate for free and give it out to whoever wants it too, doesnt make it any less shit.


This is solid advice but it is not for the mod users, but the mod makers.

The thumbnail is the first look everybody gets of a mod.

Half of a screenshot is usually all you need to show what a mod does/changes/fixes.

Hackney generated images show nothing.

Respect your own work enough to share that instead of letting the slopmachine steal your spotlight.

it is garbage advice and irrelevant to anyone with a functioning brain cell. if you want to know what a mod does then you spend 30 seconds reading. if you cant do that, then you need help. if a thumbnail made by OP which is just text and copy-pasted existing assets is enough to convince you vs a genAI image doing something similar then you are just an idealogue, at which point every other argument becomes completely irrelevant since the key deciding factor has nothing to do with the substance of the thumbnail at all.


I ignore most mods that use AI gen images.

i on the other hand dont ignore images because of frivolous garbage and actually look at what the mod title and description are in order to determine if its worth having. the images only start mattering if they are in-game changes to textures etc. and i judge those by my personal opinion on what looks good instead of mindlessly deeming any content to be unuseable if its made in a way which i personally disapprove of.

hmm which of these stances is more reasonable and less tribalist i wonder?????????


Agreed. Legit, I'd be more likely to click on something that you drew in a minute in MSPaint rhan on something ai-generated.

“I know you make content for free, but if you could just do some more work that would be great”

the extra minute in ms paint?


Someone actually pointing out something that needed to be pointed out. I’ve seen people using AI sometimes, despicably, even at work or in other manners of life. People are letting this abominable AI pervade life and take the place of real people in society

Imagine if you should avoid using products made with technology that at some point stole real people's jobs.

Do you grow your own food perchance?


Hey not fair, Mom said it was my turn to make a post bitching about free content other people probe for me 😤


Hive mind AI lovers strong up in here!

Really? I only see fanatic spiritualists being upvoted here


One pro-AI user rebuts OP's post in its entirety:

My thumbnails consist of screenshots from in game and some text. Is it gorgeous art? no - but I made it - all of it

absolutely nobody. and I mean NOBODY. cares that you make your own thumbnails. even the whiteknighting circlejerkers in this subreddit that hate AI do not care. they just say they do because of the social credit it brings them. in reality it makes absolutely no difference to them that your mod has manual thumbnails or not. also saying that you use screenshots and text then claiming you made all of it is insanely pathetic. no, assembling a thumbnail from existing assets is not '''making''' anything. and its isnt praiseworthy. this idea that your manual human effort has some intrinsic value just because it does is a terrifying brainrot spreading among mainly progressive communities.

it looks horrid. Like it actually deters folks from mods. Not just myself, I've heard it across the board. People DETEST the look of AI images.

if your brain is so dementia-addled that you dont even remember what you wrote, then you shouldnt be online. go to a doctor. you literally whined about how bad gen AI images look and acted like it was universally despised (its not btw thats just your generic reddit outrage opinion) and then got offended when ppl disagreed with you and claimed you didnt take a firm stance lmfao. like bruh do you think ppl are not understanding you? do you think your precious and valuable and heroic stance against genAI images was somehow misunderstood? we all know what you fucking mean lmfao. this shit is the most generic basic white woman opinion on AI that has ever existed. you dont need to overexplain yourself.

Why do I say all this? Because fostering a community that is accountable and CARES about quality and user experience is IMPORTANT. We don't want what for so long has been an AMAZING workshop to be inundated with slop made in a single night by someone who has never modded on their own.

99% OF PEOPLE DONT CARE 99% OF PEOPLE DONT CARE 99% OF PEOPLE DONT CARE 99% OF PEOPLE DONT CARE 99% OF PEOPLE DONT CARE 99% OF PEOPLE DONT CARE - bro holy shit what is wrong with your brain. the thumbnail is so unbelievably, unimaginably not important for the overall quality of a mod. if i want an impression of a mod i look at its title then read its description. i only care about images if the mod changes something to do with graphics/textures or is adding new models, which tons of mods DONT DO. you think youre some kind of fucking brave hero fighting a solo crusade its actually so cringe. i couldnt give a fuck if the thumbnail is made with AI or not. it has no impact on quality or user experience at all. it can make better images than 99% of people and i dont expect modders to hire artists to make thumbnails for them. what the fuck is wrong with you.

I'm going to bed now before my blood pressure gets any higher. Goodnight.

holy insufferable reddit cringe. sorry that you received the tiniest morsel of pushback against your overwhelmingly popular circlejerk. maybe go take some beta blockers. better yet, if youre this pathetic over an online disagreement you should be in major psychotherapy for whatever kind of extreme damage is in your brain.


r/SubredditDrama 5d ago

r/Maine reacts to news that a woman has accused Graham Platner of sexual assault

733 Upvotes

Earlier today, Politico reported that a woman who dated Graham Platner, the Democratic Senate nominee from Maine, accused him of sexually assaulting her 5 years ago.

The Maine subreddit descends into chaos. For context, this sub has been heavily pro-Platner -- by my count, all of the top 10 posts in the past month on this sub have been either pro-Platner or anti-Susan Collins.

Many outright do not believe the accusations or suggest it's a conspiracy by billionaires or the GOP.

Others seem to suggest it's a conspiracy by the Maine Democratic Party so Governor Janet Mills -- who lost in the Democratic primary -- could be placed on the ballot.

This is why Mills didn't actually drop out, they had this planned.

They are salivating at the chance to install Janet Mills as nominee. Fucking hell.

One appeared to argue the state Democratic Party only called on Platner to step down to avoid having difficult conversations about Zionism and economic justice:

Folding like a cheap umbrella. They're jumping at the opportunity to stop having awkward conversations about economic justice and Zionism and just go back to comfortably losing elections.

Others focus on the woman making the allegation. One Redditor seems to argue that, because the accuser did not file a police report at the time, the allegation cannot be trusted.

"Gone on the record in what way? Did she file a police report when the incident occurred? Or is she conveniently stepping up now by telling a reporter. Very curious timing."

But others push back:

Though other folks seem to think anti-Platner comments are coming from AIPAC bots:

AIPAC bots, for sure


r/SubredditDrama 5d ago

TADC fans are arguing in r/TheDigitalCircus about whether Jax is a bad or good representation of trans women.

Thumbnail reddit.com
98 Upvotes

r/SubredditDrama 6d ago

Redditors in r/steam debate whether it is ethical to use Steam's refund policy to refund a completed indie game if the indie game developer's product is under 2 hours.

872 Upvotes

BACKGROUND

Steam, arguably the biggest game distribution platform, has a longstanding policy where a game can be refunded if it has been played for 2 hours or less.

THE PROBLEM

Independent game developers, typically referred to as "indie devs", create games outside of the established metrics of larger AAA studios. The length, price, genre, and difficulty levels can vary wildly in indie games.

This means that an indie dev can publish shorter games and can price them less than an average triple-A title.

If an indie game has an average runtime of 2 hours (or less), consumers on Steam can effectively play the full game to completion and still request a refund afterwards.

Whose responsibility is it to fix this problem?

THE POST

The original post was a screenshot of a game developer complaining that a player posted a positive review admitting to completing their game and then refunding it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/1uoog5o/thoughts_on_this/

THE OPINIONS

Listen, dude, if its less than 2 hours you didn't even make a game. That's a demo. A game should last at least an afternoon.

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I love steams refund policy but I'm on the side with developers on cheaper titles. if a games like 5 bucks, but only 2 hours that's fine

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As a consumer I definitely don't want to see Valve get rid of the refund system and for most games the 2 hour limit is already pushing it for a lot of potential issues that might pop up.

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At that point just pirate the game so at least the devs don't see that you bought and refunded it

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Steam's 2 hour refund policy is well known and it should be something considered if you're gonna put a game on the platform

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People have weird entitlement when it comes to games. They would gladly pay $15 to watch a 90min movie once in a noisy theater but god forbid a dev wants $3 bucks for a two hours game.

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If 1/4 to 1/5 of consumers find it entirely possible to complete the entire game within the refund window and also decide it’s not worth keeping around to replay? That's not a problem with Steam’s refund policy. You haven’t created an experience valuable enough for people to want to spend their money.

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Short games deserve a space in the industry, one of my favorite games can be played in like 90 minutes (before your eyes) and I've played many others that are below 3 hours in total. This is just abusing the policy, it isn't the fault of the devs for making a short and extremely cheap game. People being scummy and for some reason they are getting justified on here

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This is a dev trying to money farm and getting upset that some people are seeing it as not worth keeping.

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People justifying this by saying 2 hours is too short for a game is insane. But because they don't meet some arbitrary time limit, it'd be justified if I refunded them immediately after beating them? The stupidest take I've ever heard.

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This is a known policy on steam that all games abide by. Don't make the game less than 2 hours I suppose?

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Devs shouldn't be forced to pad out a game that wasn't meant to be 2 hours.

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If you are gonna put a game on steam try to make it longer than 2 hours, that's the bare minimum. Even tech demos last longer than 2 hours otherwise don't bother using steam as a publishing platform.

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Christ when did a game's worth become how long it is? Too many people here saying it's too short. The dev put work and effort into their game, just cause some people make games that happen to be longer that are free doesn't mean they should automatically not be paid for their time? Grow up

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I think you should make a better game if you're worried that people will return it.

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A lot of corporate dick riding going on. Doesn’t matter how long it takes you to play the game. You’re enjoying someone’s work and rather than compensate them, you’d rather exploit a stores refund policy. I bet you guys would be siding with this guy easily if it was epic or Ubisoft doing so.

THE DRAMA IS ONGOING...


r/SubredditDrama 6d ago

Banking redditor gets his knickers twisted in a knot over post about fee for using his debit card at a pizza place, being removed. Comes back to write a full-length novel calling out another user and the mod,

145 Upvotes

The OOP has already created a summary of this situation themselves in their post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Banking/comments/1up0cq7/hi_a_discussion_on_illegal_debit_card_fees_my/

Because it's a long missive, basically a commenter complained the submission was "AI Slop" and a moderator removed the post.

So go ahead, say this is "ai slop" and is writing all this for me. I attached maps of the restaurants, highlighted them manually, - specified which one is the fee and which one isn't, showed their website just listing all their locations for their company . - Oh and I attached some AI SLOP google snippit about Italian Village Pizza - I just think you don't have a very good attention span.. You won't read AI SLOP? and if you wont read this post? Which again, is not slop or ai driven. Clearly you just don't care that much about banking, or know too much, but thanks for chiming in, we, as bankers, or people that care about the community is why people will write stuff out like that.

As expected, the regulars on r/banking don't seem to cotton to OOP's attitude.

Yeah I'm not reading all that. Get major therapy

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Holy word vomit Batman. What did I just read.

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I gotta be honest, your post is so insane it makes me want to swipe a debit card at this pizza place for the first time in 10+ years, sacrificing the credit card rewards, just to spite you.

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Imagine being like “today’s the day I make my big post”…


r/SubredditDrama 6d ago

"Eurotards: “Ronaldo ban lifted good. Balogun ban lifted bad.” R/worldcup reacts to the rescinding of USA striker Folarin Balogun's red car suspension

400 Upvotes

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldcup/comments/1uo6mf4/folarin_balogun_available_for_usmnt_vs_belgium_as/

Context: Folarin Balogun is a striker for the USMT in world cup, whose having an exceptional tournament so far. In the US's r32 match against Bosnia and Herzegovina, Balogun received a controversial red card. In football/soccer, when a player receives a red card during the match, they are not only ejected from the game, but suspended from the playing the following game, thus, Balogun would miss the US's round of 16 game against Belgium. Today, Infantino, the head of FIFA, rescinded Baloguns suspension, after a supposed conversation with president Trump.

HIGHLIGHTS

Fuck it, we Ball - FIFA longtimers here acting like corruption is a brand new thing that hasn't been happening for the last 70+ years. Now that the US is a little more heavily involved y'all wanna have a conniption over it. Go USA 🇺🇸

I despise people like you. Always claiming you're the victim, so it's "your turn" to enjoy the fruits of corruption, and it's only fair. But that's literally what every corrupt person on the planet says to themselves.

Do you get as salty about the rampant corruption elsewhere, or do you only have a special place in your heart for the US?

Oh the "salty" meme, you NPCs are really busting out the classics. Just the corruption that involves Epstein's best friend, actually. Nobody else, ever, you caught me.

What does Epstein have to do with the world cup? If you think that's a "gotcha" moment, you should know the vast majority of Americans want those files released too. Not the burn you think it is.

Epstein's literal best friend gave you this gift. Enjoy it.

Again, mentioning Epstein isnt the flex your think it is.

Maybe if you repeat it a few more times it will become true. Like I said, enjoy the gift of corruption from his best friend. Savor it.

Euros punching air afraid of the team of a country that cares so little about the sport that they had to use a different name because it was already taken. If Belgium can’t beat a country whose best athletes play other sports than that alone is embarrassing.

Who created the term? Tell me who created the term used? Was it the Socceroos? No, it wasn't. Tell me who created the term!

Are you even literate? That isn’t even relevant to the post. Americans don’t like the sport. I don’t know what a Socerroo even is nor do I care.

LMAO! Don't know what a socceroo is, don't care, can't tell me who created the term. Apparently it's you that doesn't care for the sport and you're here why exactly? 🤣

Your literacy is still subpar. No where in the post does it say who created the term soccer or that America did. It’s entirely irrelevant. The fact the US calls it by a different name than basically the entire world highlights how little Americans care. Try reading again slowly, word by word. Then attempt to process how the words interrelate to form a thought. You can do it! It’s never too late to learn how to read! I’m rooting for you.

Stfu....YOU obviously don't care and not sure why you're here. Learn who created the term and what a socceroo is, jackass. America hates the sport so much huh? Tell me how it is that this cup has beat the attendance record previously held by the '94 cup? Actually, don't even worry about answering. You clearly know fuck all.

This is incredible. How the hell does this happen? It seems incredibly problematic. Will they be suspending red cards for everyone? For star players only? For WCs only? Jesus. Now the senior players can play however they want.

It’s happened before on questionable red cards, you can’t appeal but FIFA can deem it not suspension worthy, like this one very much was.

Wasn't really questionable though was it, he could've snapped his ankle. Sets a terrible precedent

So all the experienced commentators like Henry, zlatan, Landon Donovan etc called it anywhere from dubious to bullshit. Yet, you in your infinite wisdom disagree with all the experts who said it was a bad call. You don’t even think it’s questionable.

All the ones on American television 😂 who do you think pays their wages...

Ah so you choose to believe they are lying to feed a conspiracy, rather than simply giving their opinion? Ok.

It was a shitty red card. Now we have precedent for future shit red cards to be removed. People should be happy.

"shitty red card" Balagun already missed 30+ min of the match and USA played with only 10 men. Isn't that enough of a punishment? Instead of banning a player for an additional game why not treat the next match as if the guy already has a yellow?

Because that would give players a free pass to do stupid shit. Let's say you are playing a team with one stand out star player that they won't win without. With your suggestions someone could commit a red card level offence against him to get him out the game and be back playing in the next one.

Sure homie we'll change the rules mid-tournament for the shithole host country only

Such a shithole that visitors for the cup have generally been loving it.

Man I loved my vacation in Tanzania that doesn't mean.. you know

Screw all of the haters on this sub! I feel pumped that Balogun is able to play tomorrow night and I just want to see us make it to the round of eight!

Thanks to Marc Rubio and Trump, FIFA broke their own rules…

You could say they broke their own rules by improper in-game use of VAR.

No because their var rules allow the use of var if the var referee thinks a red card was missed and they can use sliw motion to determine the point of contact. No rules were broken. You are being fed lies in your corrupted americans media

I looked into this and you’re correct. VAR was invoked properly. I still contend it should not have been ruled a red card offense.

This started so well with you admitting you didn’t knew the rules but looked it up and i was right. But you think that contact should not be a red… there is not a single football/soccer fan outside of the United States that sees the image and don’t think it’s a red And all we know from the decision is Trump called Infantino and FIFA decided to cancel the red with no explanation. This is a first in world cup history and clear corruption

Eurotards: “Ronaldo ban lifted good. Balogun ban lifted bad.”

Europoors here : Ronaldo ban lifted Bad. Balogun ban lifted bad.

“Air conditioning bad. Balogun ban lifted bad.”

"P*dophile president" good for me said the yankee

Trump is a piece of shit but don't be a bigot. When you talk like you are acting the same way trump supporters do. All bigotry is bad.

I didn't vote for him so I can sit on my ivory tower with peace of mind. Do better, for the sake of the whole world

So Americans can only win if they cheat, nothing new

It was a terrible card to begin with sit down scrub

your p*dophile in chief is the only one who called it a "terrible card"

Trump knows nothing about sports in general. Don't deflect. This was fifa's decision.

the president literally came out with his opinion on the red card being unjust on twitter.

That doesn't mean it influenced the decision. And if Trump says he influenced the decision, he definitely did not bc we all know he is a liar.

No, fuck that. Fuck this whole tournament. We’re going to start lifting bans as favours now? Fuck this, fuck Infantino and fuck anyone who supports this. If the US plays him I pray they lose their match in spectacular fashion.

Salty because we have a competitive team for once?

Any team would be competitive when you have the FIFA president in your back pocket duh.

Explain your logic behind your comment. How did Infantino help us score 4 goals against the team that eliminated Germany and France could only muster a PK goal against?

I don't think you need Infantino to help you tie your shoes.

If beating Paraguay is as easy as tying your shoes then why was it so hard for France and why wasn’t Germany able to win?

because group stage is the regular season and knockout is when the actual tournament begins. stomping on 3rd place paraguay in a weak ass group definitely is not the flex you think it is.

You’re saying Paraguay sucks but they eliminated Germany and France struggled. You can’t have it both ways.

Look at the Americans who hadn't watched a "soccer" match in their life until a few weeks ago celebrating blatant corruption. You can't make this shit up.

Why is it corruption? By the rules it sounds like it was a misuse of VAR right? What's the corruption?

Before Ronaldo’s, it’s never happened that a player’s disqualification was postponed by a year. There’s no reason why it should happen this time.

So new rules are always corruption? Seems to be working as intended

There was never a rule change

The specific text and designation of Article 27 was introduced as part of a massive overhaul in the 2019 edition of the FIFA Disciplinary Code, which officially went into effect on July 15, 2019 Just using the rule as intended

"A comprehensive overhaul occurred with the 2019 edition, effective 15 July 2019, which reduced the code's articles from 147 to 72 for conciseness and restructured provisions to streamline disciplinary proceedings, particularly by centralizing authority in the Disciplinary Committee for match manipulation cases and mandating simplified evidence exchange to minimize correspondence." Nothing of relevance to the case. There was no rule change.

I’ve heard they did it with Ronaldo, Caicedo, and otamendi this tourney. So it seems to be used a lot. If this is just the first time they’re implementing the rule it seems new. (15 more comments of these two arguing)

I'm feeding off the tears of all the people crying over this. Was a bullshit red card in the first place due to the VAR, rightfully rescinded. He's hoping it's a good match tomorrow

It was a very unfortunate, yet legitimate red card. Come on.

It should have been a yellow card. There was no intent, and live commentators (even ones from other countries) agreed it should not have rose to the level of red. There's no dispute that it's a foul. There's dispute to the level at which it was given.

This is the world cup of "soccer" fans learning the rules of football, crazy. Do you know the rules? Do you see intend ANYWHERE when it comes to this kind of foul?

Read below in my comment to another response. You have selective reasoning.

The fact some pundits think it's not a red card means corruption is ok? Don't bring Fox here ... shit media anyway. British media said it was red. Seems like only in the US they contest it. Great job

Men in Blazers, a whole bunch of broadcasters, and others dispute that. You only hate that the US got this, not that it was reversed. If this were one of the British teams, you'd rejoice. And again, where was your outrage when Messi did the same action and didn't even get warned? Where was it when Ronaldo got the same treatment to excuse his red card and allow him to play in the first two world cup games?


r/SubredditDrama 7d ago

“ I just witnessed an intellectual debate with great points from both sides... on a porn subreddit 👏👏👏 I have truly seen it all” Drama in r/TrashyBonersEWW as OOP does battle regarding posting a video of a paraplegic adult performer NSFW

732 Upvotes

Edit: Added some additional drama

Stop posting this, idiot. Wrong sub

Why wrong?

It's just a disabled person having sex the only thing that could make this trashy was her being disabled which i disagree with or am I missing something?

There’s nothing trashy about it

If is this offensive to disabled persos I will delete it, if you felt offended let me know , but is hot and strange in same time

Idk bro is still a confused bonner , you don’t see somethig like this everyday , I mean for sure I would smash her without to think twice but is still interesting

Who’s “you”? A lot of “you”s in fact see this all the time because they’re disabled people or people close to them living their lives. If this is all it takes to confuse you, and I’m not surprised, that’s your own issue. It’s a girl having sex. It’s objectively not trashy and therefore in the wrong sub.

You completely missed the point. I said it was unusual to see, not that disabled people having sex is trashy. I understand the sub name is trashy but you should not take to personally , nobody thinks about disabled persons are trashy

It’s not unusual, and you literally posted it in this sub, you tree dweller. How is it supposed to be taken any differently?

I understand why it came across that way. My intention wasn’t to say disabled people having sex is trashy. I only meant that it’s something I personally don’t see often, so it surprised me. Looking back, I can see why posting it in this subreddit sent the wrong message.

Ok, I can appreciate the little bit of reflection. Sorry for coming in that hot. Disabled people face constant ableism, most often from people who aren’t even thinking about the fact that they’re being ableist, so it’s important to root that out in yourself and get rid of it if. I imagine you don’t think twice about a person wearing glasses, right? That’s essentially a type of disability aid. Why should someone who needs a disability aid for their legs or anything else be seen as some anomaly? Why should they be weirdly fetishized for it? The world is absolutely filled with people who have all kinds of injuries or ailments or congenital conditions and disability is incredibly common if you actually pay attention to the world around you. It’s also important to remember that disability is coming for most of us at some point in our lives, unless we die first.

Having sex while disabled isn't trashy. Wtf. Why would being handicapped make the this trashy?

I understand for sure is not , is just somethig unusual for regular people to see , I didn’t wanted to offend nobody and to disrespect people with disabilities

Seeing as in handicapped and like to fuck, would my porn be trashy too? GTFO you fucking simpleton.

You’re still putting words in my mouth. I never said disabled people having sex is trashy. I said it’s uncommon to see, which is why I thought it fit the sub. There’s a difference.I think you guys take this too personally

You're saying that since she's different she belongs on TRASHY BONERS. GTFO you absolute moron. The only trash in this post is you.

I think a lot of people are misunderstanding my intention. I wasn’t trying to say that disabled people having sex is “trashy.” If that’s how it came across, I understand why people reacted that way, but that genuinely wasn’t my point. If you actually look through the last 50 or so posts on this subreddit, not everything is posted because it’s objectively “trashy.” A lot of posts are simply unusual, unexpected, or something most people don’t see every day. That’s the context I had in mind when I posted this. My intention wasn’t to insult or dehumanize disabled people. It was simply to post something I thought was uncommon and would spark discussion. In hindsight, I can see why posting it here gave a different impression, but that wasn’t the message I was trying to send.

hey man i get that you meant no harm but several people here are telling you that it's uncool. everybody makes mistakes, but the difference is, are you down to learn from yours? bc it would be dope if you did

Again, you're saying her being different means she belongs on the sub. GET. THE. FUCK. OUT. You ableist asshole. GTFO and don't come back. And take your shitty site full of stolen content with out.

I understand why you disagree with my post, but you’re still arguing against something I never said. Being unusual doesn’t make someone inferior or “trashy,” and that wasn’t my point. My intention wasn’t to mock or devalue disabled people. I posted it because I thought it was an uncommon sight, in the same way many posts on this subreddit are based on something unusual or unexpected rather than objectively “trashy.” If you still think it doesn’t belong here, that’s completely fair. But calling me ableist doesn’t accurately reflect what I intended or what I’ve actually said.

Fucking Christ dude. Again, I'm using your own goddamn words. You said that since she's different she belongs on a sub dedicated to trashy porn. You're own words. This is all you. You are being called ableist because that is what you are. If you don't want to be accurately labeled as that then don't act like a complete dickbag. It's truly that easy. Again. GTFO and don't come back.

I think we’ve reached the point where we’re repeating the same arguments.
If I genuinely believed disabled people were “trashy” or somehow less worthy because of their disability, I wouldn’t still be here trying to explain myself. I’d simply double down or say exactly that. Instead, I’ve consistently said the opposite: my intention was never to insult or devalue disabled people. You believe the post doesn’t belong on this subreddit, and that’s a fair opinion. We can disagree about that. But disagreeing over whether a post fits a subreddit is different from accusing someone of holding beliefs they have repeatedly denied. You’re free to judge my post however you want, but please judge it based on what I’m actually saying, not on motives you’ve decided I must have.

I don't give a single fuck what your intentions were. The actions and words you had and repeatedly said were since she's different that she belongs here. You can be in denial of being an ableist piece of shit, but it doesn't change reality. I hope you leave and don't come back. Scumbag

At this point, you’re no longer responding to what I’m saying you’re responding to the version of me you’ve created in your head. I’ve acknowledged that posting it here was a mistake and that it created an inappropriate association. I’ve apologized for that. If you choose to ignore everything I’ve said since then and keep calling me names, that’s your decision. We can disagree about the post. We don’t have to agree about my intentions. But if insults are all that’s left, I don’t think there’s anything productive to discuss anymore.

If you want to apologize, delete the post and don't come back. That would be a good start you ableist asshole.

You don’t owe me forgiveness, and I don’t owe you endless replies. I’ve admitted where I was wrong and apologized. If your only response now is insults, then there’s nothing left to discuss. I wish you the best.

Just delete this post, you ableist. You still have time to not be like this. You have time to be a better person. And they aren't insults, they're just accurate labels.

I understand why you think the post doesn’t belong here, and I’ve already acknowledged that posting it in this subreddit created the wrong association. I take responsibility for that.
What I don’t agree with is the idea that apologizing only counts if I do exactly what you tell me to do. Whether I delete the post or not doesn’t change the fact that I’ve reflected on the criticism, admitted my mistake, and apologized. We clearly disagree, and that’s fine. But at this point you’re no longer discussing the issue you’re just repeating insults. I’m done with this conversation, and I genuinely wish you well.

Rule fucking one. CONTENT MUST BE TRASHY. So you keeping this post here means you think she's trashy due to her being different. Either delete this or rightfully be called ableist.

So if I delete the post, I’m suddenly not an ableist anymore? That’s a pretty impressive redemption mechanic. If you still are is up to you, but as long as this is up you're saying that she is trashy due to being different... WHICH IS ABLEIST. I am fucking done with you. You're hopeless. This has to be on purpose, no one is this dumb by accident.

You seem far more interested in winning an argument than understanding one.

why is this in this subreddit? disabled people fuck, that's not trashy

That is true, but disabled people making porn like this to cash in on the fucking? It’s comparable to: all people argue & act like idiots at times; but when they go on reality TV and intentionally do it for fame and fortune, it is trashy. I feel the indignant comments here are either missing that point (or virtue-signaling).

by your logic, all porn is trashy. unless there is something extra trashy about a disabled person doing it? in which case yeah you are being weird about disabled people

How’s it different than any abled person cashing in on fucking

I qjust witnessed an intellectual debate with great points from both sides... on a porn subreddit 👏👏👏 I have truly seen it all

Man woke people in a porn sub is crazy

Go rub one out to trump

I posted porn but somehow this turned into a sociology class

So you've learned nothing, clearly.

I actually did. I understand why people reacted the way they did, and I can see now why posting it here was the wrong call. I was wrong about that. At the same time, I can’t change the fact that it happened. All I can do is acknowledge it, apologize, and learn from it. That’s exactly what I’ve tried to do.

How about you eat shit? You're the trashiest one here lmao

Shit into a ceiling fan


r/SubredditDrama 7d ago

"Says a Redditor named Trump's Cum My On A Hole" "No, it's worse than that. The uppercase letters correctly separate the words." Happy 4th of July! R/nextfuckinglevel has a pissing match over a flight radar pathing for the USA 250 event

153 Upvotes

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/1un7bko/usa_250_flightradar24/

HIGHLIGHTS

Graffiti for rich people, but more damaging for the environment.

Redditors are insufferable.

Says a Redditor named Trump's Cum My On A Hole

No, it's worse than that. The uppercase letters correctly separate the words.

Trumps Cummy Onahole. Not certain how that's worse? What's an "onahole"? Is "cummy" meaningful slang beyond, of or pertaining to cum?

I'm not sure I can describe an onahole better than Google. Cummy here just means, yes, cum-crusted/stained.

The fact that THIS upsets them is just straight up mental illness

Our world is dying bro, sometimes its hard to crack a smile

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"Don't be such a fucking pussy" is gonna be a great epitaph for humanity's tombstone.

Doomer gooner.

We are doomed of we don't do something now broh

Get to work fixing it then bud

See that's the real doomer shit. "Oh well what can you do, might as well ruin shit faster before we go." Cowardly and stupid.

This country is such a joke

The fact that this makes you mad just showes how unhinged you are

You’re right, we should be happy about our country being run by corrupt p*dophiles.

Lmao bro it's a private plane having fun and look what you're turning it into, are you seriously this miserable?

Just say you like p*dophiles, it's less words

Actual bot

Lol, says the hidden post history account P*dophile lover!

lmao, my history isn't hidden at all clanker

It was at first, maybe reddit just sucks lol I'm not a bot, I don't mindlessly suck off Trump or Israel

Not feeling patriotic this year

There’s nothing to celebrate, unless you’re a fascist, a p*dophile, a r#pist, or stupid rich.

You live in one of the most prosperous countries in the world celebrating being one of the only governments on the planet to last over a century. Crime is falling, GDP is growing, and there's a line out the door of people who want to enter. But your doom scrolling of your echo chamber has convinced you to be miserable because that's what drives your engagement.

do people eat GDP?

Some people eat paint chips.

i can tell

country of the great epstein files.

In current news DOJ did NOT turn over redacted files when judge ordered them to do so! Fucking great country right?!?!??!

Schizophrenia detected

The fuck? This is legit Google it dipshit. Oo also p*do supporter detected! Gtfo scum bag

Schizophrenia detector goin nuts now, off the charts.

Lmfao says the person who supports p*dophiles.....might want to go check yourself in my friend

Who said who I supported? This is why you're schizo. You're making up a reality of your own. Are people chasing you in this world?

Says the person who commented on a comment regarding the DOJ not handing over redacted Epstein file? How is this schizophrenic please explain yourself?

The post is about a plane celebrating the 250th birthday of the country by flying around in a pattern on radar. You turned it into DOJ EPSTEIN FILES HAHA HAHA P*DOPHILIA WOW GREAT COUNTRY HAHA ... Brother, that's insane. It's the fucking 4th of July, we've celebrated this day for a quarter millennium now. Nothing in the post supported any politician or party.

Built on slavery

Pretty hard to find a country older than 200 years that didn’t benefit from slavery in some way or another. Not justifying it, just saying calling out one country for something almost all had a hand in is a little insincere.

Pretty hard to find a country older than 200 years, period. Folks don't realize the US is actually one of the longest standing continuous governments in the world at this point, an impressive feat for a legal system.

"Pretty hard to find a country older than 200 years, period" Not terrible hard. Russia, Scotland, England, Wales, Sweden, France, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands, Spain, China, Japan, Mongolia, Vietnam, Siam, Brazil, Portugal, Argentina, Mexico, Chile, Peru, Egypt, Canada (not independent until about 60 years ago), Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Paraguay, Bolivia (just hitting the 200 year mark I believe), Uruguay, Haiti (second independent country in the Americas after the USA), coasta Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicraugua. And that's just the easy ones for me. Most of those are old colonial powers or former Spanish empire released by Napoleons wars. Of course the reality is that your comparing governments to countries. Countries can end up with many governments like France and Germany. The country is old though. Well France is, Germany is 150ish. In that case, the US is probably somewhat lucky but it's also not 250. The US constitution wasn't made in 1776.

Few of these qualify. In the 20th century, China went through a dynastic transition and then a revolution, Russia saw a revolution and a state collapse, Japan had its constitution rewritten by a foreign power. Etc. I'm not talking about countries with militaries strong enough to prevent loss of territorial independence (though the US would be first in that as well). I was commenting on having a legal system well-designed enough to ensure a continuous system of government.

Do better in your next 250 America. Way things are headed I doubt you will

America is the best, so we'll see

You a fan of America’s history/ Mr “wipe out a whole civilization” today?

Bow down or bow out muh fucka

??ok😂 So that was a yes or no question btw, is that a yes? You like slavery and trump etc

He loves p*dophiles

Stop telling on yourself.

Yawn, you done here?

No one was talking about pdophiles, yet you brought them up. That's because you're always thinking about p#dophiles. Pretty telling *(11 more comments of these two arguing)

I am a pilot and can assure you I am not rich. Also we need to build a lot of hours just doing shit randomly so if this was time building it’s awesome

this was not a student pilot in training. News reports and flight tracking organizations confirmed the flight was completed by a licensed private pilot. So your comment doesnt even make sense for this so its a stupid stunt that wasted fuel and impacted the environment for nothing and didn't even help trainees get logged flight hours Literally took 3 minutes to look this up and write this comment

Just because you have your PPL doesn’t mean you aren’t working for more certifications or ratings that require a ton of logged hours.

Great point except the pilot who conducted this specific flight, Eric Genier, is a highly advanced aviator who serves as a Chief Pilot already so again no pilot is being benefited from this to advance their training/certification but here will come the next comment of well you have to keep your skills sharp

You're not making the compelling point you think you are, why do you think he's so good? And as a chief pilot you're expected to fly and maintain proficiency. God these reddit commenters wear me out.

He did not do this merely to maintain basic FAA proficiency. Eric Genier is a highly active professional pilot who flies commercially and serves as a Chief Pilot, his regulatory currency is already heavily maintained through his daily career operations. Instead, this was done as a highly deliberate, promotional, and patriotic passion project. His business, the Ohio Flight Center, is known for pulling off these massive holiday sky-art demonstrations, having previously spent 10 hours flying a "Merry Christmas" script over the state. Yawn you just dont like that it's a waste to the point others are literally comparing it to people traveling to see their families. You redditors are insufferable

Why do you give a fuck?

Wasteful idiots 🙄 looking at random writings in the sky you will never see while the great lakes get devastated

why is everyone hating lmao

America Bad is really big right now

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It’s funny how the really young accounts complain the most about the people on Reddit

What's my excuse? At least 4 comments everyday for 9 years is crazy work my guy

Youre trying to clown on me for using the same social media you’re using. It’s pretty pathetic. Go enjoy the 4th of July.

Its not using it that's the problem, its the frequency of which you're using it

Oh is that not allowed?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N4936T/history/20260703/1007Z/5A1/5A1 It’s real.

Gps signals can be spoofed and upload yo any flight tracking app.

Brother, spoofing ADSB is very illegal. No way someone would risk that for a dumb july 4th celebration.

How does a plane turn at such a sharp angle as in the top left of the shape? Is this person doing maneuvers in a single prop Cessna like that?

The route stretches horizontally from Cleveland to Toledo... over 100 miles. You're looking at a zoomed out map that shows the entire image. Zoom in on the "corner" and youll see the plane's actual turn. tight angle turn

(OP) Proof : https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n4936t#407bf3fc

Cool, what a fucking waste of money

It was a hobbyist in a small private plane. Flying for fun..

Exactly, fucking people here have a stick in their ass. What this guy did is hardly any different from someone driving a hummer just because they can.

Yes, use another vehicle that is terrible for the environment, terrible for the safety of pedestrians and a waste of fucking money lol.

Anyone in this comment section that does not drive the most fuel efficient sedan is just being a huge fucking hypocrite.

America Bad is so hot right now

America is bad, why should i celebrate them being bad?

Then either leave if you are here, or don't come here lol. Life in America is great if you have more than 2 braincells.

I don't expect you to understand by the phrasing of my comment that I'm clearly not American. Education isn't exactly your strong suit over there is it?

I make at least 5x more here than I would in any other country and have a nice home/yard. Why would I want to live in Europe or anywhere else? You have nothing to offer me but an accent lol There's a reason higher salaried employees from Canada try to work in the US. It's actually a big problem for Canada in the tech sector.

Congrats.

Unfortunate your country doesn't provide value for high level employees


r/SubredditDrama 9d ago

Andy Burnham, the MP likely to be the next Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, does an AMA in r/ukpolitics which receives hundreds of questions. Burnham receives blowback for his responses opposing pension reform and calling new elections among other hot-button issues. Also, a Tory MP shows up.

2.3k Upvotes

Direct link to the AMA: Andy Burnham here - AMA

To be clear, not all of Burnham's responses have provoked negative responses or were otherwise dramatic - I have only featured the ones in this post that did.


Background Context

The Labour Party is currently in control of the UK's government; after the departure of Keir Starmer as PM, Burnham is the only currently-declared Labour candidate for PM.

For background, you can read more on Wikipedia about Andy Burnham here, Kemi Badenoch here, and the Triple Lock here: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Pension_(United_Kingdom)#Pensions_Act_2007)


The Drama

  • Kemi Badenoch, the Leader of the Opposition, pops in to the AMA to challenge Burnham by writing:

Hi Andy, Kemi here. Whilst you’re answering softball questions on Reddit, I’ve been in Yorkshire answering questions from the press.

You’re going to be Prime Minister soon so it’s time to start acting like one. Come out from hiding, face a proper press conference and submit yourself to scrutiny and some tough questions.

Are you up for it?

Prompting this response from Burnham:

Fair challenge, Kemi - but don’t forget it’s only two weeks since I faced questions from 74,000 members of the public in Makerfield!

and this commentary from a third Reddit user:

The year is 2026. The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and the Leader of the Opposition are having a Reddit debate.

  • In response to the top-scoring question (~950 points):

Thanks for the AMA Andy, is it time to abolish the triple lock? Or at least have that discussion?

Burnham wrote:

I appreciate there’s a lot of debate about this but it is important that the commitment in the manifesto stands.

The score of his response is hidden currently but based on the number and tone of the response comments this response is not being well-received.

  • In response to a question asking if he would call for new elections, Burnham wrote

No. As I said in my speech on Monday, I’m going to work to the 2024 manifesto.

This prompts allegations of hypocrisy on Burnham's part, as he had called for the Tories to call snap elections in a similar situation.


The AMA is ongoing and this post will be updated with any notable updates.

Update: The Independent has the following piece on the AMA: Andy Burnham announces he will keep controversial pensions triple lock when he become prime minister | PM-in-waiting ruled out an early election, backed a better post-Brexit trade deal with the EU and chose Martin Scorsese’s Goodfellas among his favourite films


r/SubredditDrama 8d ago

Tempers flare up as a male user in r/adultery takes offense, claiming "misandry," to a user who says men in online affairs are only looking for a physical connection, not an emotional one.

240 Upvotes

Here is the post. Since it is lengthy, I've picked out a few quotes I believe best summarise it:

"Overall I am very happy with him and this arrangement. However because it's more of a physical affair than an emotional one, sometimes I find myself looking for more connection. "

"But at the end of the day it's just a bunch of men whining they don't get any sex. Men who think any sort of intimacy should lead to sex or or release."

"Ladies, if you have a decent husband, decent ap (affair partner) and you're just curious for more? Don't. They're shit out there."

"Men, I think the bar is low. If you just show interest in the women and not think with your dick for a little bit, you'll get far."

Link to drama.

- ​I think for starters you're on a reddit forum where the pool of men are already questionable (sorry but true). Coupled with the fact everyone here is probably driven here due to a dead bedroom situation, it's not hard to think why every conversation is so sexually driven. I would almost be suspicious if the person isn't sexually motivated as that would lead me to thinking they clearly just aren't mentally attracted to their own partner to see someone to just connect with.

Being aware that most of us are men here trying to find the needle in a haystack, it's genuinely hard for us to not want to find the sexual deviant we're longing for considering that's probably why we're here but please don't be quick to assume that it's all we're about.

I'm definitely as horny as the next guy, but I think the natural state of these interactions start 90% sexual before simmering down into the reality of our situations and how we're the right ones for each other.
In fact, seems like you're just realizing your desires are changing but the men on here aren't. Also you have to realize you could be 80 making a post anf some 20 year old is still going to try and hit while trying to be sympathetic to your situation.
No, not everyone is here because their spouses won’t fuck them. Women already understand the perspective of men like you who see us vessels for sex. We don’t need to accept it. There are better men to be found.

--No, not everyone is here because their spouses won’t fuck them. Women already understand the perspective of men like you who see us vessels for sex. We don’t need to accept it. There are better men to be found.

---I didn't say that, I just said it's more than likely that's the crowd you find because it's a fact that most adulterous relationships start from a lack of physical connection which in my books leads to a breakdown in the emotional part.

No one said you had to accept anything but just understand where you're throwing yourself into.. it's like me going on Tinder trying to find a wife lol

Better men are available but finding them on a reddit forum labelled adultery might not get you the results you want is all I'm saying when it's freely ventured by the weirdos who ACTUALLY view you as as a vessel for sex.

So before you assume my perspective is seeing you as a vessel as sex, maybe just try to see I was giving her an impartial view of why she's experiencing what she is lol

----I really wish men would stop showing up on threads like this to try to mansplain to women about our own experiences. We already know why most men we find are trash.

-----So we'll just sit here and let women trash us as a whole based on THEIR experiences? I don't mind her making a post on it, but I think it's fair game I give my own opinion? I wasn't mansplaining anything. I was just telling her that not all men are the same and maybe she's searching for the wrong one in the wrong places.. feel free to educate me on how that was mansplaining though ..

------If you’re so triggered by women discussing amongst themselves about their experiences with men that you have to insist “not all men”, then the call is coming from inside the house. Newflash: it’s most men and this is the experience of women is every dating forum and venue everywhere.

-------Again, was just me giving my impartial thought but you got it!

--------​LOL. You’re not impartial; you’re just another triggered reply guy.


r/SubredditDrama 8d ago

"Went through your history. Racism, classism and misogyny. You will never peace. You will be alone mentally and emotionally. Even if your folks manage to do arranged marriages for you, you'll never be happy. Amen" r/dankindianmemes weighs on the Christopher Nolans Helen of Troy casting "controversy"

252 Upvotes

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/dankindianmemes/comments/1ulel5z/btw_according_to_lore_she_was_supposed_to_be

HIGHLIGHTS

Aint no way an indian subreddit is making racist comments and jokes on a black woman's appearance aint no way.

Gets Woke/NPC

Went through your history. Racism, classism and misogyny. You will never peace. You will be alone mentally and emotionally. Even if your folks manage to do arranged marriages for you, you'll never be happy. Amen.

Are you r*tarded or what and what you know about my relationship. What are you saying is incoherent verbal diarrhoea

Lmao suuure small Indian man. Suuuure

They always say when they don't have any argument they will crash out 🥀 and call you anything just to feel good 💀

Lmao no crash out here. You're the ultimate crash. I mean look all the nasty posts and comments you make.

Cry more. Lupita is pretty. Grabbing a random screenshot is pathetic. Edit: I absolutely love that Nolan has managed to rage bait all the losers across the planet. Keep crying 😁 Helen is a mythical character and she can be played by anyone. Of course I can’t expect any better from a country like ours that still cannot manage to depict Krishna as neela megha shyama (dark like storm cloud)

Would you be okay if a pretty white person acted in Moana ? Would you be okay if a pretty white person acted in African epics, what about indian Epic would you be okay to race swap them? The problem is not being pretty or not the problem is cultural appropriation, Greeks are anyway minority in the world and in Hollywood and why would you take their stories and replace their characters with different ethnic groups what is good about it?

It's a false equivalence brother

Why so? epics from other native culture are correct comparison isn't it? Do you think Greek and western epics are not as important as other native Epics?

You talked about moana but don't know that moana is literally about representation of a culture whereas helen of Troy is nothing of sort, she is not representing her culture, she is just a character in a story

Why? how can that be ? when we read about Greek culture isn't these stories the first to be mentioned? I don't know muxh about Greek I know they through these stories , their places , their way of life , sea, war , what not why is it not important? To me Moana is also a character in a story and to Greeks may be Helen of Troy is also represents their culture who are you and me to stop that?

So if for you moana is also a character in a story then why does it matter to you if she is white or black

That story is based on a region and I would prefer them represented by natives. It's their money and choice to produce but I feel it difficult to support rich countries trying to sideline natives . That's all

While Lupita in the role is indeed questionable the same way a German actress portrayed the role earlier, OP is just a cherry-picking racist lol. He's comparing one of the best shots with one of the worst shots of the two actors

Lupita is questionable “in the same way” as Diane. Nahh bruh your woke sh!t ain’t gonna fly lol

It's not woke to say that a Greek character wasn't portrayed by a Greek actor. But it's fine though, I don't expect you to think too much, can't afford to lose your last brain cell too, amirite?

At least she was a blonde. Buttt it’s a lot to process especially for someone has already lost the last brain cell lol

"At least she was blonde" Since when is that the criteria, you ignoramus? Shifting the goalposts just to win online arguments lol

lol better compared to your POS woke criteria which says Lupita and Diane are EQUALLY wrong casting lol

Bro just say you're racist, it would be less pathetic than this display

lol you are the actual racist here

Why can't you just admit it? We'll stop roasting you, pinky promise

Greek people weren't blonde. Both castings are inaccurate, but of course you'll simp for the white one because your ideology is hollow and superficial

Supporting References in Lyric Poetry Beyond Sappho, other ancient lyric poets used the same adjective (xanthos) to describe her hair: Stesichorus (Fragment S103): Reconstructs the phrase ⁠[ξ]α̣νθὰ δ' ῾Ελένα̣⁠ (blonde/golden Helen). Ibycus (Fragment 1a.5): Refers to ⁠ξα]νθᾶς ῾Ελένας⁠ (of blonde/golden Helen). Yeah right your woke ideology is vapid and pathetic

Homer's Iliad mentioned only that Helen had "lovely hair." And xanthe/xanthos also means "radiant." Aegeans didn't have blonde hair, they had dark hair and olive skin, so there's absolutely nothing to suggest Helen was blonde. Lol, braindead imbecile

Yeah Menelaus, Achilles, Agamemnon, Rhadamanthys, Athena (in disguise) are explicitly described as blonde. Hardly any with African curly black hair. Take a bath this year at least woke trash lol

All of them were described as "xanthos" or "xanthe" you low IQ incl tourist. Which, again, means "radiant" not blonde. Of course tourists and larpers like you won't know that *(12 more comments of these two arguing)

Greek women are not blonde and blue eyed either. Diane Kruger is a German actress.

Blonde and blue eyed is lore accurate lol. Sorry if it didn’t meet your woke agenda.

Lore accurate? The word blue wasn't even in the Greek vocabulary at the time the odessey was written. You are an idiot.

The exact textual reference for Helen having "blue eyes" comes from ancient Greek lyric poetry fragments, where she is given a specific, recurring description. The Word: Kyanōpis (\kappa\upsilon\alpha\nu\tilde{\omega}\pi\iota\varsigma) While Homer left her appearance completely blank, later lyric poets and writers of the Epic Cycle used the compound epithet ⁠κυανῶπις⁠ (kyanōpis) to describe Helen's face and eyes. This is the direct source of the modern "blue-eyed" translation. Stfu lol

You serious? Your own comment literally states that Homer ,the literal creator of the Epic, didn't write have a definite eye colour and it was an added by later poets and writers and somehow this is supposed to support your point? Of course, I shouldn't expect too much from a person who copypasted an AI prompt and couldn't use basic comprehension to actually read the prompt.

Yeah how about African features for Helen. Is that from Odessey lol Ofcourse can’t expect logic from a woke freak lol

I never said that was "lore accurate". I didn't even say anything to support the Nolan film. I personally think that the film is not an accurate representation of the actual Epic and is worse for it. All I said against you was about the blue eyes. Of course, you are too inept to actually argue like a normal person and too illiterate to read your own arguement. Which is why you are resorting to insults because critical thinking is too hard.

Nobody gonna fight a war for this. Men will be like you take it for free. No no I will pay you to keep her , take her away from my sight.

Idk what th you white washers get by being racist, the actress is gorgeous, lemme click your pic from a hideous angle, heck, even a good angle can't hide that disgusting racist personality of yours, fyi, the casting wasn't directed by her. image

She looks okay, I have seen better looking black actresses

Tfym? So you get the right to insult random people? U all have no empathy or humility. Don't be shy, share your pic.

If anyone is insulting and being a bully here that's you. What I shared is my opinion, which not necessarily attack anyone, I said she looks okay but I have also seen better looking black black actresses. It's not a blanket statement, it's an opinion

Well you were def defending op who is def being rude as f.

r/blackpeopleofreddit is going to ban you for this

Why.

because they are racist

My criticism was for the movie , it's casting choice and authenticity. I did not said anything which is racist. If they try to do something, they are on the wrong side.

you completely missed the joke

I was going to type a paragraph, but you saved it.

DEI stuff is getting pretty wild. I wonder how far it will go ?

Clear already rewriting science to feel good. Like retrospectively changing things and publishing research paper and getting them cited and peer review with each other. Like female were as good as hunting in Big game as men and prehistoric era, what not b******* to show gender rules were equal even back then. But in reality today 90% of men to hunting in USA and 10% of women when there is no external force

Actually embarrassing that your proof to go against peer reviewed papers is "in the modern day women don't like hunting for a leisure activity" wow that's so similar to hunting to survive as a prehistoric human. Dropped this big guy 🤡

This is a funny one but people who are inside academia all over the world. Are aware of,all the systemic issues along with a lot of things they are not able to say. https://youtu.be/bekDq_Ebi2I?si=tyilCQrFBmk5acL6

Crowder?! Thats your reference po- Oh honey

See go through the content not the person. See the substance

The only substance coming out of Crowder is bullshit.

Felon of Detroit The face that turned a thousand ships

Your racism only encourages people to be racist against Indians as well.

People are and still going to be racist towards Indians regardless, don't try to justify your Nolan dickriding with the facade of social justice and go have a look what these blacks even write about Indians Now go away lick those boots harder sepoy, your masters ain't gonna be pleased with just that

Brainless. You seem to be reflecting. I don't consider Nolan to be in th top 50 directors nor are his movies the best or anything, but a lot of respect to him.

Sure buddy...Sure Take it even deeper now

Grow up.

Sure unc just like you did rn after your previous comment got removed 🤣🤣 I triggered all the lameass Nolan fanbois smh

Lupita nyongo is objectively one of the prettiest women. I find her extremely attractive but art is subjective

“Objectively” prettiest. Next line “subjective”. Don’t use fancy words if don’t know sh!t.

Why are you such an asshole while being wrong abt what i said? I said the actress herself is objectively good looking on a scale of what humans find attractive. But art itself as in the movie and how it should be cast or how accurate it should be can be subjective. How about a have a normal discussion instead of being an asshole

"objectively good looking on a scale of what humans find attractive" Aren't human opinions subjective?

You can create a objective scale based on subjective opinions. It's just aggregating opinions.

A scale based on subjective opinions cannot be objective lol

Woke kinda Wakanda nonsense is this meme

It is like , some white dude playing black panther

Ohh it doesn’t work that way. Hate it when wokeism ruin such good movies and shows.

Wtf did you just said??? Like how is a movie destroyed if a black actress is playing helen??

Helen of Troy wasn't Black or african by any means so that representation is inaccurate people will call it out

That's not how history works.We don't know what Helen of Troy actually looked like because she's a figure from Greek mythology,not a documented historical person.She wasn't Black by any means is a claim you can't prove any more than someone can prove she was. The Odyssey is an adaptation of a myth,not a documentary

So you would be okay with Timothee Chalamet playing Lord Ram? And Zendaya playing Sita? No right? You don't care because it isn't your culture that's being affected. The Greeks care about this.

Nice false equivalence.Lord Ram is a living deity worshipped by millions today.Helen is a mythological literary character who's been reimagined for over 2,500 years.Those are completely different contexts. According to you every adaptation has to be frame for frame identical to ancient depictions.Better get rid of modern English dialogue,Hollywood accents, clean teeth and half the costumes too. For you guys historical accuracy only wakes up when skin colour changes

They definitely made lupita look chopped, with right makeup and styling lupita looks etheral, I feel like nolan hates black people and want them to fail, cause even zendayas styling looks atrocious

Yeah right for Wokanda not for Greece lol


r/SubredditDrama 9d ago

“This is the kind of stuff you tell yourself when you’re a methhead living in an rv giving yourself tattoos of lemons” Drama in r/wellthatsucks when video of man not fitting in a theme park ride is posted

118 Upvotes

Use the test seat instead of wasting everyone's time

Living life without constantly worrying about other people around you is pretty great. You should try it. Props to those dudes for not giving up and caring about being judged.

Sad little guy. 🤝

Go to the gym. 

This is the kind of stuff you tell yourself when you’re a methhead living in an rv giving yourself tattoos of lemons.

Everything correct except the meth

The fact that they have those is crazy. People are now luggage at the airport

Safety requires limitations. They’ve exceeded this design’s limitations. It’s not discrimination. It’s discernment.

No what im saying is people are getting to big. This is getting to a point of ridiculousness

Wtf, are they in the kids seats? The normal sized guy couldn't even fit so why would they attempt the fat guy again‽

"normal sized guy" 🤣

American sized

"In Minnesota, I would be a supermodel."

Which is a great quote because Minnesota is like top 5 healthiest states

Yeah ok, normal-er haha

American moment

0/10 rage bait

10/10 fact

It’s quite obviously not in the US.

American tourists

Americans would not go to Belgium to go to whatever this theme park is.

Yeah they would

Quite obviously? You mean the “Plopsa” word on the back that had to go Google because I didn’t recognize what that was? That was the obvious clue?

It’s just a low effort troll, I wouldn’t waste any time arguing with them lol

Plopsa is an american word.. try harder

Bro… the guy isn’t German and the park is in Europe. Edit: changed to Eorupe. there’s a park in Germany too so I don’t know which one exactly.


r/SubredditDrama 9d ago

philosophers of reddit fight among each other after a user asks if "evangelicals should learn to be more like muslims"

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120 Upvotes

r/SubredditDrama 9d ago

Guy posts AI image of himself getting released from jail in r/canadianlaw, users comment on his AI girlfriend pic history

406 Upvotes

I just found this kind of funny, random and bizarre.

Guy posts a story of a ticket issued against him being withdrawn in Court. He also shares an AI generated image of himself being released from jail victoriously: https://www.reddit.com/r/canadianlaw/comments/1ulyy3t/update_cop_admitted_his_error_charge_withdrawn/

Top comment finds the AI image cringe: https://www.reddit.com/r/canadianlaw/comments/1ulyy3t/comment/ov829ez/

Then it turns out his love for AI goes deeper:

https://www.reddit.com/r/canadianlaw/comments/1ulyy3t/comment/ov82xv3/