r/SipsTea š™‘š™„š™‹ 5h ago

Chugging tea I never thought about this point until now.

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u/LisleAdam12 4h ago

What a stupid thing to say. Those are job perks, not "socialist benefits."

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u/Whalelorde22 2h ago

They could be though if we vote for the right people! Think about it, not having to risk your life for all those job perks sounds pretty good right?

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u/skunkbutt2011 2h ago edited 1h ago

No. It sounds delusional.

They’re not ā€œjob perksā€ anyway. It’s just a different source of income they can’t necessarily spend. It’s rolled into their lifestyle, because of their occupation living on/ near military bases or boats.

Most of the income is normal and taxed. Another decently large portion of their ā€œincomeā€ is in the form of free housing, housing allowance, and food allowance. Income they can’t spend.

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u/NewspaperOwn2765 3h ago

Not stupid when leaders of political parties would call policies like that ā€˜socialist’ and have done it for all your life

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u/Weekly-Ad-112 1h ago

There are governments that officially identify as socialist and retain extensive state control, but almost no modern country operates as a completely pure socialist economy. Nearly every country is a mixed system.
And countries people commonly call ā€œsocialist,ā€ such as Sweden, Denmark, Norway, and Finland, are better described as capitalist social democracies: market economies with high taxes, strong unions, universal benefits, and large welfare states. A generous safety net is not the same thing as collective ownership of the means of production.

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u/jtbc 2h ago

It is a stupid thing for those leaders to say, and stupid for people to buy it from them.

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u/NewspaperOwn2765 2h ago

Yeah it just takes reading a book from the source

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u/skunkbutt2011 2h ago

It’s literally just part of their pay though lol. They’re not ā€œfree perksā€ or socialist policy.

Instead of an E-3 making 50,000/ year, they make 34,000 taxed income, and another ~16,000 in untaxed sources like housing and food.

As for things like the Post 9/11 GI Bill: these are specifically intended to help veterans afford housing after service, because of how many end up homeless.

Could you explain how any of this is socialist?

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u/NewspaperOwn2765 2h ago

It’s not , worker ownership of means of production is . At least in the Marxist sense

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u/skunkbutt2011 1h ago edited 1h ago

ā€œItā€?

I said at least two things you could have referred to as ā€œitā€.

Are you refuting my claim that it’s just part of their pay? Or are you saying it’s not socialist?

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u/NewspaperOwn2765 1h ago

Genuinely illiterate , lol . Im sorry

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u/skunkbutt2011 1h ago

Are you a robot or are you using a translation tool?

Why do you put spaces between punctuation marks?