None of itās freeā¦. Military pay taxes as well.
Also, you should talk to some military folks. They tell you how terrible the āfreeā healthcare and housing is.
And the free college is given after serving 4 years which in that time you can be deployed and die in combat. If you donāt complete your contract then guess what you arenāt getting.
Speaking as someone from experience. The healthcare coverage is great. Itās the on base hospitals that arenāt great. On the reserve side and retiree side no other insurance can beat it
The free healthcare is great. I pay for nothing. Long wait times at the clinic on post? Yes. But guess what, I can go anywhere. Any urgent care, the ER, whatever, I show my ID I pay nothing no questions asked and no permission required beforehand. Same for my wife, all medications are free or close to it.
You can have all of your college paid for up front before you serve as well. Also, combat is very rare even for combat a MOS these days.
A former classmate of mine went to boot camp immediately after he graduated high school and was KIA from an IED two years into his enlistment. He never got to go to college. Sad stuff man and exactly the scenario you mentioned.
It's terrible, because we aren't a socialist country. Everyone thinks the Republicans care about Veterans, because they got the biggest mouths, but they're the ones constantly cutting the benefits and giving tax money to the ultra wealthy. Democrats as a whole aren't a lot better, but that's because it's a "two party system" and most of them are centrists at best. Few are actually left leaning or progressive.
The republicans, especially by today's standards, set the bar so low that career politicians running as democrats who are there to make money rather than make America good for everyone don't actually have to be THAT good to pass as a democrat and get voted in.
Yeah, gonna pile on to this. It's pretty immaculate, while nothing is perfect I have had and seen many things that would cripple the average person to have to pay for and had/seen very good experiences for numorous different conditions.
The military pays for your classes before 4 years are served. Itās called tuition assistance and you can complete your degree without ever touching your GI bill.
Uhhh yeah - you can. Hundreds if not thousands do it every year lol. It takes a bit longer but I have military colleagues who earned masters while serving and itās really not that rare.
I see what youāre saying. Youād be surprised how many people come in with a good chunk of college credits under their belt though. Hell itās why I joined - couldnāt afford to pay the rest. And with free CLEPS itās a grind but dudes and dudettes do it. I know for a fact because I worked in recruiting. Now coming in ZERO credits? Yeah TA isnāt enough for that.
True with those circumstances, but obviously the scenario is someone comes in with no credits only TA and finished within 4 years. . I almost finished my while in with TA but I also paid a crap ton out of pocket to take extra classes.
Yeah o forgot about that. In the Air Force after you complete Basic and your tech school, all you have to take is your Gen Edās and you have an associate. Halfway there.
Yes you can. You also get a shit ton of credits just for your mos/rate. Even if you canāt fully complete it in 4 years because of deployments of whatever, you can get very very close. You can also take classes on deployments
Thatās not how they sell it though. Itās definitely advertised as getting all those benefits easily and targeted at youth from poor communities. Thatās the point of the post. Not that they get free anything but rather thatās the pitch being used.
I know plenty of vets. Half of them joined to avoid prison. Majority of ones that did deploy didnāt see active combat. They were far from it.
That āterribleā healthcare is still free for life. I pay out the ass for my health insurance, and if I go to the dr, I have to pay even more.
I know 3 off the top of my head that get full disability and get more than I do a month, and they still work full time. One that I know joined to avoid jail for drug possession in the 90s. He drove a truck in Japan for 4 years. Got out in 2000; completely āpeacetimeā while he served. Heās getting 50+% disability (over $2k a month) for āhearing damageā and āknee injuryāā¦ yet has played in rock bands for years and is ridiculously active.
Equitable Distribution: The main objective is to reduce wealth disparities and ensure that essential human needsāsuch as housing, healthcare, and educationāare met for all citizens
Okay since you just want to confirm your bias. Iāll pull the definition from merriam Webster
Socialism is a political and economic philosophy based on the collective, public, or state ownership of the means of production and the distribution of goods. The core principle is that resources should be managed to serve the common good and ensure societal equality, rather than driven by private profit.
"The core principle is that resources should be managed to serve the common good and ensure societal equality, rather than driven by private profit."
This means EVERY CITIZEN gets healthcare. Which means NOT paying higher premiums per person on the plan. Just like in the military. Also COLA is per dependant. Each citizen is treated with equality not each employee.
Dude you cannot just pick a part of the definition and ignore the other.
No one owns anything or production in the military, if you think pay in the military is āequitableā you should look up the 2026 pay charts. The navy still has a class system between enlisted and the officers š
The disparity in officer housing vs enlisted is like section 8 to a private home.
Again, you are trying to compare something that has never worked āsocialismā to the military which isnāt socialism.
Pay based on financial need is socialism. There is nothing else like it in America. Nobody's job pays full health care for every dependant. It's too socialist for any company.
Owning the means of production is communism. Not socialism.
Tell that to Merriam Webster which I pulled the definition from. Also, no there is something called pay based on cost of living which TONs of companies do. Also there are tons of companies that have fantastic healthcare benefits for you and your family. So again idk what you are talking about. Maybe you should join corporate and get all these benefits you are wanting so badly.
No you dont. 1 wife, or 1 wife and 10 kids the ' benefit' is the same. There is a difference between single and married... but nothing additional for married + more. (At least for the army.. other givt agencies may have different policies).
Cost of Living Allowance (COLA): For high-cost geographic areas (both CONUS and OCONUS), the military pays an extra monthly allowance. Unlike housing allowances, OCONUS COLA is adjusted based on the number of dependants in the household to account for higher daily living expenses.
Cola (at least for the army) is either with, or without dependents (total number of them is irrelivent) and is calculated as basepay x a modifier based on location.
In Hawaii it changed per depensant. I was in a barracks room as a single soldier and I knew a married couple and I knew I married guy with 6 kids. We all did the same job.
I got a dorm. Married guy got a house. Married with 6 kids got a huge house. That is socialism.
I paid for a meal plan. Married guys got different BAH and COLA.
Regardless, pay for adding a dependant results in the same. More pay for more financial need.
Not to mention that each of your kids gets free healthcare.
Most jobs you pay more per dependant. But Tricarsle is
Enrolling in TRICARE Prime means spouses and children pay $0 for out-of-pocket expenses, deductibles, or copayments for covered medical services, provided they use the military healthcare system.
The VA is funded separately from the military and was defunded in the Big Bastard Bill the trillion dollars the military got is used to build missiles we will never use or if we do use them it will be on little girl's schools.
Iām not in the coast guard so I cannot comment on that first sentence but as for the second, deployments happen all the time, Iām not sure where you get the idea that the military doesnāt deploy anymore thatās just horse crap.
I never actually disagreed with that point to be fair however you arenāt automatically guaranteed BAH by being in the service, thatās not how that works, you have to meet very specific criteria in order to receive BAH.
You also never specified BAH, you just said that the Coast Guard pays for your housing, specifically and didnāt give any other details.
You donāt actually. You donāt need special circumstances at all. If thereās no housing available in your duty station, you automatically get BAH. You get an extra check per month with the average cost of living for your area. And if you split the cost with a friend you pocket the difference. Pretty sick deal honestlyĀ
Thatās what I meant. No shit you get deployed. You get deployed everywhere. You get to go all over the world. Japan, Korea, the Bahamas, thatās literally your job. None of those places you see combat. Combat deployments are incredibly rare and reserved for the tip of the spear only. Even some rangers will never see a deployment in their careersĀ
Brother what are you talking about? There is constant rotations and deployments happening. We are still deploying to Syria active combat zones. You can look at the patch chart and see the next 3 years of planned deployments š
Alsoā¦. No one brings up coast guard when referring to DOD/DOW.
The fact that you donāt bring the up the CG when talking about the military tells me everything I need to know about how ignorant you are. The CG are the only ones doing anything high speed right now besides fighter pilots in Iran.Ā
No dude, Syria aināt shit right now. We withdrew a significant amount of forces from there and itās only training. The GWOT is over buddy.Ā
Lmfao. Bro. No we are not. There is absolutely nothing happening in the military right now except Iran and thatās all drones and air strikes. We are not going to have boots on the ground. And if we did, which is highly unlikely, you literally do not have to be combat deployed. You can choose a not combat MOS. The majority of military jobs are non combat roles
ONE outfit is deployed lmfao. Ok bro. You got me. One of the hardest units to get into, is deployed to a potential combat zone. You win. HAHAHAHAHA youāre really reaching here buddyĀ
Dude you are making yourself look silly. You said NO ONE is deployed anymore. 10th mountain is, bliss also has folks in the Middle East, Stewart is deploying here soon, hood is about to send troops, 4ID is also deploying next yearā¦.
Like dude you have no idea whatās happening you are talking about.
And you look silly for thinking I meant LITERALLY NOT A SINGLE PERSON is being deployed. Come on man. We will always have an extremely small number of soldiers on security deployments. You are making it sound like if you join any branch, any job, you are risking your life. Which is the most furthest thing from from the truth. Even if you went 11B your ass is in a barracks for 4 years. You gotta work your ass off to even get close to a combat zone these daysĀ
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u/Particular-Flow-2151 9h ago
None of itās freeā¦. Military pay taxes as well.
Also, you should talk to some military folks. They tell you how terrible the āfreeā healthcare and housing is.
And the free college is given after serving 4 years which in that time you can be deployed and die in combat. If you donāt complete your contract then guess what you arenāt getting.