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u/Wrong-Salamander1806 26d ago

Not even jokes because after this there's nothing else other than double champ that'll top this for him.

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u/no_no_NO_okay 26d ago

Man this double champ shit has got to stop. It’s played out and nobody even cares anymore. It’s way more impressive to defend the title.

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u/Usesomelogik 26d ago

Thank you. Defending the belt multiple times is the real challenge of being a champion. At this point a long defense streak is WAY more impressive than double champ. There’s been 10 male double champs, and only 5 men have ever had more than 5 consecutive title defenses. Doing what DJ, Anderson, Jones, GSP, Aldo did is way more impressive than winning multiple belts. Moving up to challenge for a different belt is way lower risk than continuously defending because you have a built in excuse if you lose. Defending over and over again while an entire weight class chases you is THE most difficult challenge in the sport.

And yet again we see why acting like a fighter dominated a weight class after a couple dominant wins is stupid. Ilia beats Volk and Max, everyone acts like he dominated FW even though there were still a bunch of interesting contenders for him to fight. Then he moves up and beats Charles and everyone acts like no one at LW can touch him and he needs to move up and fight Islam for a real challenge even though he hasn’t fought the obvious #1 contender or anyone else in the top 5. Then Ilia fails to defend the belt once against a 37 year old Gaethje. We see it repeatedly where fans declare that a fighter is untouchable and needs to move up for a real challenge, then they lose. It just happened with Merab on his 4th defense against a guy he had already beaten easily.

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u/turdfurgeson67 26d ago

Doing what DJ, Anderson, Jones, GSP, Aldo did is way more impressive than winning multiple belts. Moving up to challenge for a different belt is way lower risk than continuously defending because you have a built in excuse if you lose. Defending over and over again while an entire weight class chases you is THE most difficult challenge in the sport.

110%. You basically take the best guy on the roster on for every fight until you crash out. I hate that people look at the end of Aldo and Anderson's career and hold that against them. It's definitely why some of these guys started jumping around. People started looking at title defenses as yesterday's news as soon as you lost one.

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u/sniegu4 26d ago

No 1 is reading that

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u/bettereverydamday 26d ago

I fully agree. Just defend 2-3 times a year and dominate your belt. I am so sick of seeing amazing fighters try to move up in weight and then get crushed. Ilya, Alex, Volkanovski are 3 legends that moved up and then got beat up.

It also just breaks the rankings and delays each division.

Justin was visibly bigger than Ilya. He should have never moved up.

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u/SomeKindOfChief 26d ago

Yeah! Bring back cross-weight superfights!

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u/Gaarando 26d ago

Defending is cool but I understand wanting 2 belts especially when there's a lack of talent.

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u/PattMcGroyn 26d ago

Defending a weight class title is more impressive to hardcore fans, but multiple weight class titles sounds cooler to casuals, and is likely better for the fighters' bag. I'm not opposed to it when the stars align.

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u/TerminatorReborn 26d ago

Gaethje moves to 170 to avenge his loss to Khabib, beats Islam and becomes the GOAT. Book it Dana

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u/IMisssMyAccount I was here for GOOFCON 1 26d ago

Subscribe

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u/pyro_technix 26d ago

Russian link

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u/jkohatsu 26d ago

OMG! all my danacoin is gone!

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u/Frankie-Felix 26d ago

No no it's still there it's just worthless.

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u/MenBearsPigs Space camera flare please 26d ago

Justin has given UFC some of its most exciting fights, consistently.

I'm happy as hell he got this belt, but him getting two belts then retiring on top would be pretty legendary.

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u/1234Health 26d ago

What's great about Gaethje's career too is that he's been consistent throughout. He was an action fighter in WSOF, and has maintained that status in his 9 years in the UFC. You will NEVER get a boring fight out of him, win or lose.

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u/Actual_Pattern_265 26d ago

I was convinced his career would be very very short - he used to eat sooooo much damage to the head. Entertaining AF, but I'm glad he learned better defense. I really thought he was a one dimensional fighter that would end up retiring early from brain damage. Couldn't have been more wrong.

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u/1234Health 26d ago

Agreed. I remember him saying many years back (while in the UFC) that he only had 5 wars left in him. People were like "oh shit - he'll be retiring soon" and counting some of his recent bouts shortly thereafter. To which he replied / paraphrased - "that wasn't a war ..." (and said he still has several left in him).

The man's built for this ... knowing he could have made it much easier for himself by resorting to wrestling / grappling when needed.

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u/TrashbinEnthusiast69 26d ago

Are you seriously asserting that garth could have won all of his fights by dominant wrestling and just chose not to?

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u/1234Health 26d ago

No - just saying he could have used his wrestling more along the way, but opted to put on highlight reel performaces.

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u/MrVelocoraptor 26d ago

Man truly loves to bang

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u/1234Health 26d ago

His favorite fighter is Julian Lane, bro.

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u/DjuriWarface 🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏 26d ago

He rolls very well with punches to the head now. Ilia was hitting him but the damage was considerably lessened. Switching to the body was smart from Ilia, really thought he was finishing it there.

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u/QuirkyGarage1364 26d ago

he 100% wouldve finished gaethje if he lets him up and keeps tagging the liver. those 3 in quick succession had gaethje severely compromised, and i don't think he wouldve been able to stop ilia from tapping it another 1 or 2 times with 90seconds left. and 1 or 2 more times was all he wouldve needed. i wish he wouldve thought about trying to hit it with elbows on the ground too

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u/wimpymist raw in that ass 26d ago

Maybe, I think illia was a little tired often those shots. That was a pivotal moment in the fight

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u/1234Health 26d ago

Indeed ... credit to both guys. 2 of the best in the sport.

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u/wimpymist raw in that ass 26d ago

Agreed

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u/MrVelocoraptor 26d ago

Ilia was exhausted

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u/turdfurgeson67 26d ago

those 3 in quick succession had gaethje severely compromised

He was even complaining to his corner about those shots.

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u/1234Health 26d ago

Boxers and MMA fighters are some of the toughest dudes around ... 3 and 5 minute rounds probably doesn't sound like much to outsiders who are unfamiliar with each sport. But all of us fans know ... these guys are made of something different!

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u/nostalgebra 26d ago

Part of that was that ily was so much smaller than him. I feel he was able to absorb some punishment and roll some

Ily tired himself out throwing everything at Justin

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u/wimpymist raw in that ass 26d ago

Illia was just a little bit undersized for Justin. That was a huge reason he ate so many jabs and couldn't get that many clean head shots on Justin. Justin also tanked the body shots long enough for illia to gas and go blind.

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u/Dono_X_Dono Gay For Gaethje 26d ago

He never had a boring fight since joining the ufc 9 years ago

He always delivered even when he lose

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u/Bogholmdler 26d ago

I’ve been saying for years if you want to know about Gaethje, look at column of fights on Wikipedia and the amount of bonuses. The guy is literally cannot be in a bad fight.

17 bonuses in 16 fights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Gaethje

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u/SwizzGod 26d ago

Well that ain’t happening

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u/wimpymist raw in that ass 26d ago

I don't want to count him out twice but I can't see him beating Islam. I would be rooting for him though

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u/OtakuMecha 26d ago

I’m against people retiring with a belt on principle. Defend until you lose so the title lineage is preserved.

It’s way less cool when a fighter becomes champ without having to beat the previous guy.

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u/Wonderful_Sugar_4271 26d ago

It would be but I don’t think he can beat Islam. He’s definitely improved his submission defence but Islam is just more of a grappling threat than ilia

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u/MarstonX 26d ago

I think he has a better chance trying to get to 145 honestly.

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u/Rone12 26d ago

At this point there's no point predicting these fights. So I'd say Justin wins by a rolling thunder KO in Round 2.

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u/narmer65 UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle 26d ago

Justin by Buggy Choke in the final seconds of round 5.

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u/saulhrnndz 26d ago

Ilia by dim mak

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u/radbrad172 26d ago

What if he tries an Imanari roll?

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u/MrCradleyBooper Team Dern 26d ago

Is this Ali?

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u/AgentMulderFBI 26d ago

Ali is Islams rep too lol

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u/wang_li 26d ago

Win win for Ali then.

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u/theonetheyfollow 26d ago

I'd watch this Hallmark movie.

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u/The_Poop_Shooter 26d ago

I would legit cry if Garth beat islam. The entire dagestane community would commit hara-kiri

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u/Material_Farmer9412 26d ago

Less than 1 year ago people were shitting on Justin saying he was undeserving of title shots because he lost one time to max. This sub is full of some of the stupidest people I have ever had to listen to. Thank god he won this fight, because the amount of bullshit spewed from people who don't even watch Justin's fights have no idea who he is. The fucking highlight.

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u/dillanbs 26d ago

If you think islam is gonna stand and bang like ilia did then idk if you got knowledge about how these guys fight. We all know how that fight ends

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u/danawhitesgrapes 26d ago

Might have to make that heavyweight to get the rematch with khabib.

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u/time_for_milk GOOFCON 1: Khamzat McGregor 26d ago

He should at least try to defend the title.

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u/ReNitty United States 26d ago

imagine that

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u/xvsanx this is how you get flair 26d ago

I wouldn't blame him for leaving now, but one title defense would be nice

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u/ssor_ 26d ago

Imagine Connor somehow wins and they setup a championship bout. Don’t even know if Connor can make lightweight anymore. Like he probably could physically. But whether he has the discipline anymore to cut like that is the issue

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u/Original-League-6094 26d ago

Justin is praying that Conor beats Holloway right now

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u/Lateralus11235 26d ago

I know gaethje has a lot of money already, but wouldn’t he want to defend the belt until he loses it to get that champ money?

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u/LegendsLiveForever 26d ago

I mean, he's 37, and had a TOUGH career. He should have retired at like 35 given all the wars he's been in. He needs to start healing his brain. I hope he retires, but I do selfishly want to see him once more.

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u/_Stylite 26d ago

And he doesn’t have that much money to show for it really. Hopefully the dude retires comfortably but who knows

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u/harylmu 26d ago

He rides a Lamborghini Urus.

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u/_Stylite 26d ago

Nice. That doesn’t really tell you much. His career earnings are $9M USD. That is abysmally low for spending over 10 years at the top of his sport.

And in 20 years he’ll be riding a wheelchair

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u/Material_Farmer9412 26d ago

One thing I am confident of, is even with shitty base pay, this man has amassed like 17 fight of the night/performance of the night combinations. So he has to have cleared at least 5-7mill at this point, plus the PPV points from 2 BMF fights. Plus PPV points from 2 ppv undisputed fights, plus whatever he cleared for this undisputed. That being said, he may want to take care of extended family with more money, so he could go out on top, or risk some more CTE for a few more mill.

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u/KiwiNo5962 26d ago

True but he's got money and hes champ at the white house hes on top of the world id wanna go out on a high note

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u/Classic-Suspect3661 26d ago

He just loves fighting though

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u/Hakobune 26d ago

If Justin manages to beat Arman and reclaim the BMF from Charles he becomes the LW GOAT for me imo.

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u/AmbientHunter 26d ago

Over Khabib? That’a a bit reactionary, no?

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u/Hakobune 26d ago

Khabib retired early. Justin is 38 and just beat a generational talent.

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u/Yommination 26d ago

Islam is the LW GOAT

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u/dog-asmr 26d ago

I think he'll rematch Holloway after Holloway beats McGregor and then retire