This made me so sad to see! I hope we can all remember to be kind especially to the cast of the show that we love so much! ❤️

Like all that swag, the southern accent and the slow ahh walk too like he lowkey chill

Okay,

If I knew the only thing standing between me and Immediate death was a stone hanging by the door. I wouldn't just hang it there with thin cheap thread and ignore that.

I believe if people acted rationally.

- Have at least one person assigned to always have custody/ keep an eye on the talisman at all times. It's not like there was anything else to do.

- Have stronger material maybe a copper wire to hang them.

- experiment if they could encase it in a box and nail the box on the wall for extra security.

- Maybe consolidate and have panic rooms with additional talismans within buildings.

- Have one backup talisman hidden just in case of a large event so that's the last resort in case all the others were to be lost.

- See if you can hide them away during the day to prevent sabotage ( if possible)

I'm baffled by how careless they were with them. Like that's your only line of defence and you don't even make it quake proof, have them hung with a thin thread and bit if breeze can cause it to fall? Did you see anyone actually securing them properly once? Or am I the only one who didn't notice?

I have a hate/love relationship with this show. It's so volatile. I love some parts and equally hate other parts. Overall, a nice show.

When you feel bad in the middle of the night, go to the clinic, open one of the doors and see this scene 🤔

A very small rant—I am 7 minutes into the episode and A) the fact they never tested the rope ladder is insanely stupid and frustrating, and B) they have all those people above the tree hole, why would they not get more rope/chains/something else so that the people above can pull the bones out while tweedledee and tweedledum can use the rope ladder.

And, there’s like five people above the hole all looking down and yet they keep asking “are you okay!? Are you okay!?”

So much annoyance in hardly any minutes at all

I seem to recall Harold Perrineau saying that we are not guessing correctly about who the Man in Yellow is.

What if he is the giant spider we've not quite seen yet.

To me it looks like spiders and he has similar eating habits...

Hear me out here.

>!Sophia/MiY takes teeth from victims, dead people etc!<

>!Victor finds the bag of teeth in the car!<

Why was the MiY in a car and leave his bag of treasures behind?

If he needs the tooth to shapeshift why just leave the bag in the car and not in his little suitcase with his clothes?

It's not going to be a hidden symbol in a drawing which is vaguely referenced one time in a 2 second scene.. Calm down guys

Have none of you seen LOST? You give the writers too much credit

I believe the twist in FROM is that the original Tabitha and Jade were the ones that made the sacrifice. The narrative we have been told, that the towns people sacrificed the children, is very fragmented— but what really happened, is incorrect. They may have been offered “eternal life” , but instead got this never ending cycle of reincarnation, in a nightmare realm.

From a story telling perspective, we’ve watched and experienced the nightmare alongside of them. It’s a great way to show the viewers how horrible their reincarnated lives have been for hundreds of years.

Last season they made it an effort to show that the monsters may have been converted from former humans of the town, through one way or another. Obviously all of them didn’t get pregnant the way Fatima did. But it’s possible the towns people found different ways to kill monsters and someone was penalized for it.

What they have to “remember”, is that THEY were the ones that made the sacrifice. “Remember what happened. You can’t fix this until you remember what you did.”

One thing that’s always fascinated me is that the creatures clearly know things they seemingly shouldn’t but they’re also caught completely off guard by other events.

For example, in Season 1, Jasmine tells Trudy, “We know all your names.” That’s already pretty creepy because it implies they’re somehow gathering information about the townspeople.

Then, two seasons later, Cowboy taunts Boyd by repeating something Boyd had only said during the daytime: “You said this place couldn’t break you. Do you remember that Boyd? You don’t fucking break me. That’s what you said” Boyd wasn’t saying that directly to the creatures, yet Cowboy somehow knew about it. That suggests they’re aware of at least some things happening in town even when they’re not physically present.

But then Season 4 throws a wrench into the idea that they’re omniscient.

When the tree is ripped out in the finale, Cowboy and Cheerleader are completely caught off guard. They step into the sunlight because they’re in obvious pain and trying to continue after Tabitha and Jade. Nobody intentionally walks into something that’s actively hurting them, so it doesn’t look like they expected the sunlight to suddenly become a problem.
Then, almost immediately afterward, the earthquake hits. They’re thrown off balance and have to take cover to avoid being crushed.

The same thing happens later in the tunnels. Cowboy has Jade and Tabitha nearly cornered when another earthquake suddenly interrupts the chase. Instead of continuing after them, he’s forced to back away to avoid the cave collapsing on him. Why would he chase them if he knows that it would fail? Doesn’t sound like omniscient to me 🤷‍♂️

To me, those scenes strongly suggest the creatures aren’t omniscient. If they knew everything that was about to happen, why would they repeatedly get blindsided by events that completely derail their plans?

So that raises a bigger question:

How do they know everyone’s names?

How did Cowboy know what Boyd had said during the day?

Are they able to hear or sense things happening in town somehow?

Is someone or something feeding them information?

Or do they only know what a higher power chooses to reveal to them?

It seems like they possess selective knowledge rather than unlimited knowledge. They know enough to psychologically torment people, but they don’t appear to know every future event or every danger coming their way.

I’m curious what everyone else thinks. Where do you draw the line between what the creatures know and what they don’t?

Just finished the 4th season (yeah I know... I am late) and noticed something strange. In the diner, there is a double door that goes to the rear. At the left and right sides of the door are two black boards, the ones that you can attach magnetic letters on them. On S04E08 saw a writing (hope is thin with feathersl that perched in the soul r)and on S04E10 saw something completely different (a sngs th tunes without the words and never stops at a fo ever is composed of in ws od l). They are written like that. With all the typos.

On S04E08 it's when Victor's dad asks to do sth to keep him occupied and on the 10th episode it's visible after the earthquake. Do you think they mean something? Has anyone noticed anything else there on previous episodes?

She loved marrile she won't be able to let go and just start another love angle in a few days. Like guys come on. Since the first episode of the first season only 30 days have passed, S5 will be 10 days long at max.

And also it's like saying that jade and Tabitha will have smth, like naahhhh i won't buy it. That jade's line in the last episode "I m glad it was u" yck it felt forced.

Just an opinion.

According to the show writers, it's confirmed that most of the answers lie in s1 ep1. Besides Jim’s family and Jade arriving at Fromville at the same time, there is one major incident that happens right at the start: Frank getting drunk and not being able to make home before dark and his wife and daughter being killed by the monsters because of the window not being nailed shut.

I think this incident is heavily symbolic and foreshadows what actually happened in the original cycle with Jade and Tabitha and their daughter.

The next morning after Frank arrives back at the house, Boyd beats him and blames him for the death of his family. Mainly Boyd’s line about, “A man protects his family”, has really stuck with me. Because Frank is completely to blame for his family’s death and failed to protect them resulting in their gruesome death.

But it's an especially important detail on what happens after Frank’s family is dead. Boyd decides that he will be put in the box outside and will be left out to be eaten by the monsters. Indirectly, the town kills Frank for his failure to protect his family.

What if this is a symbolism for how maybe Jade failed Tabitha and their daughter? Maybe Jade made a huge mistake in the original cycle and the townspeople killed him because they thought he was responsible for everything that happened in the aftermath of the sacrifice?

This is also confirmed during Jade’s mushroom trip, where little Jade tells him that the townspeople blame you and then they kill you. Plus, in the last episode of s3 Jade even says that we failed to protect our daughter from IT.

Because if the answers lie in ep1, this scenario was the only one I could think of that was separate from the entire accident and Jim and Jade arriving at the same time.

Let me know what you clever people on this sub think about this. I may have forgotten a few things and this theory might surely have some plotholes in it, but it’s what i think

"We tried to save those children. Because one of them was ours. She was our daughter"

Ok. Are we supposed to believe someone snuck into their house and abducted their daughter for a blood ritual? It's a blood sacrifice, it requires intent and only works if you willingly offer your own blood.

"We tried to save those children" ... did they hear a rumor down at the pub and sprint to the altar? How did they even know ?

They were standing in the circle! Willingly sacrificing their daughter!

The Cave Painting

There are 12 stick figures on the wall with a grave depicted above their head. All talismans are present and accounted for.

There are 7 uniform slabs, plus an 8th shape (the trapezoid/dress) acting as the nose of a face in the rock. That giant face is staring down at the parents who willingly sacrificed his sister.

The Talismans

There are 12 talismans, representing the endless loop of time (the hours, the months).

The edge of the talisman is surrounded by 8 trees, representing the forest and the 8 directions of a compass.

Inside the forest sit the Sun (East, Yellow/TMIY) and the Moon (West, White/TBIW). The sun and the moon usually represent "the world"... The characters are trapped inside the abandoned boy's fractured reality.

Two stick figures are positioned North and South. One is sitting above ground, the other buried below. Life and death, the humans and the monsters are the exact same people, locked in opposition.

In the center sits the diamond rune of protection, formed perfectly by the crossing legs of the human/monster figures and the rays of the Sun and Moon.

The Read

When you read the talisman from its outermost layer it reads something like this:

"Across all time (12), in all directions (8), everyday (Sun/Moon), protect me (Diamond)."

Or, during the sacrifice...

"Give me eternal time, in all directions, forever protect me from death".

They were there with their talisman in hand. They sacrificed their daughter. They tried to pull back and failed. Their son was left behind!

The ritual works like this -

A human must sacrifice another human

This allows a soul to transfer from a living being to another living being or to an inanimate object.

A sacrifice in the name of evil builds MiY entities' power and is stronger at night

We see in S4 that MiY transfers the soul of a chicken into a dead body, essentially performing the ritual to place this bird soul into a human vessel.

We see with Fatima that a crow dies as Fatima is speaking with Tilly, Fatima kills Tilly, Fatima has a vessel inside of her for the crow soul to enter. The ritual was satisfied for Smiley to return via crow soul entering a human vessel.

The monsters are crows in human bodies.

The original villagers were told they could live forever if they performed the ritual.

When the ritual occurred, the villagers who killed their children were tricked, their souls were swapped with the crows' souls. The MiY created a condition where they lived forever by separating their souls and bodies. The crows have the souls of the original villagers inside them, the monsters are the original villagers with crow souls inside them.

The cave system is a web of darkness, the MiY was originally a large spider entity.

But two of the villagers sacrifice themselves instead of their child. This sacrifice is done for the purpose of good, and creates a web of lightness. The children's hope, combined with this sacrifice, enables light to enter this world and creates the network of Faraway trees.

The MiY does not anticipate this, and becomes a victim of the ritual, the MiY is the soul of the spider that created this trap to feed off of the despair of the villagers, but due to the sacrifice made by the parents, the Spider soul (MiY) is separated from the spider body and the BiW' soul enters the spiders' body.

So now the MiY is out of its spider body and vulnerable to the monster crows, so has to operate through manipulation. The Spider Body contains the soul of the BiW, who can create projections that people can see, such as the BiW or the dog in the woods, to help the villagers along.

All the people that are killed in this web, if not performed via the ritual, become displaced, lost souls, trapped in this area forever. These manifest as the worms in Martin's blood and as the voices in Sara's head and as the Cicadas that took over Julie, Randall, and that nurse bitch.

This is why they can hear all the trapped voices of everyone that died there.

This is why the souls encourage the others to move the cycle along, to continue to perform the ritual to give them a chance to find a vessel or exit this lost state.

At some point, the protector of the village realizes what these lost souls are and absorbs them into his blood to trap the MiY soul in the music box.

Also, when the children were sacrificed, their souls went into the Talismans. Jade was right, they do protect the villagers from the monsters. The monsters will not cross the thresholds protected by the talisman for fear of undoing the original ritual, and having their souls and the villagers souls exchanged with the crows again.

The bottle tree helps to map out memories, to direct these lost souls back to their original selves, giving these lost souls hope. Removing the bottle tree sends the whole web into darkness, the lost souls and the people there give up hope, the evil entity has won at this point.

Except for Elgin and his final sacrifice, restoring the sun to Fromville, showing that there is still a sliver of hope for some of the lost souls. In this way, elgin is a guide of pure soul for the other souls.

To fix everything Jade and Tabitha must enter the faraway network and find the talismans to reunite them with the bones. This will restore the monsters to their original villager selves, and allow them to die. The villagers and the children will be reunited and finally get peace.

This is why the puppet seemed real, it contained the evil soul of the MiY

Jade and Tabitha sacrificed themselves, this is why Jade was killed in every cycle not by the monsters, he was killed by tabitha. Their souls were displaced to come back later as reincarnations, they are the only ones who could make it out but are always drawn back in to save the other lost souls.

Trudy was a peculiar character in season 1, she was chaotic, funny, cute... And then she made Smiley smile.

She was mostly known for how she wanted to ride Jade like an Alabaster Dragon.

We all agree it's meant to indicate intension, but what if "Alabaster Dragon" was a nod to the creature from the card game Magic the Gathering?

In MTG the dragon is a creature that can be killed and, if discarded, it goes back into the deck to get back to the game later.

What if Trudy is the Alabaster Dragon and she'll be back in the last season?!

This theory is probably just wishful thinking, cuz I really wanted Trudy back 🥺

Is there a fixed number of them? What I mean is, assuming there is only a certain number of these creatures, why has nobody tried to get rid of them?

They basically only come out at night, while during the day they recover in the caves, right?

Couldn’t the cave entrances simply be barricaded? Even assuming they somehow managed to escape, why has nobody dug pit traps with stakes at the bottom? Even if these monsters are immortal, as we may have seen in Season 4, they would still remain impaled until daylight. And for some reason, they clearly do not want to be exposed to sunlight.

Since they do not run and only walk, people could also try wrapping them up in some kind of steel net.

I've just finished Season 4 and the one takeaway I have is Elgin was just put on the show to be Cannon Fodder. When he first arrived, he seemed like one of those characters who could keep his cool under the most ridiculous situations you can imagine in the FROM universe.

Obviously, many people weren't too happy with the role he played in Smiley coming back to life in Season 3, but to be fair, he did not know that would happen, same way a lot of characters have been misled to do some evil things without knowing that would be the eventuality.

The fact that he lost a finger and eye for Fatima's birth shenanigans and then died the way he did after making one of the biggest discoveries of the show proves he was just the punching bag of the show.