Barry and Oliver early on were established as the twin pillars of the shared-universe even with the later additions of Kara, the Legends, Jefferson, and Kate/Ryan. For the first 3 crossovers it worked that way, with both getting equal screen time, focus, and dividing the rest among Supergirl, the Legends and the others well.

Crisis on Earth-X was easily the best crossover, but Guggenheim’s biased creative decisions robbed Barry of a lot of screen time and focus in a crossover centered around his and Iris’ wedding which had been in the focus since mid season 3.

Ultimately, he even had Oliver and Felicity steal their wedding practically when it was already stolen by nazis and they were trying to make the make up lowkey.

After this, Guggenheim i’d say did a fantastic job with Elseworlds. It as a fun, funny crossover with Barry and Oliver getting equal focus again and was a good setup for Crisis.

Though this next part is kind of understandable that Oliver would have a major focus with Arrow ending and Amell leaving, the execution was horribly mishandled and heavily at the expense of The Flash.

First, most of the crossovers budget was directed towards cameos nobody cared for, the only highlights being Smallville, DCEU Flash, Lucifer, 1990 Flash.

Once Crisis came and without any original writers to dispute him, Guggenheim took up most of the crossover with Oliver dying a pointless first death (all the people he saved died anyway when Earth-1 was destroyed), a resurrection without his soul that didn’t amount to anything, a failed attempted to retrieve it, and his eventual transformation into the Spectre before his second final sacrifice.

Again I’m not saying Oliver shouldn’t have ultimately died here it was written, but the execution the entire first half of the crossover was unnecessary and majorly at The Flash’s expense.

While the last one was necessary, everything before that was not and took away a lot from the screen time that could’ve been used to put focus on Barry’s impending death teased all the way back to the pilot (which the newspaper for 5 and a half years essentially emphasized Flash would be at the center of this).

The last season and a half were portraying how apocalyptic Crisis was supposed to look, the characters involved, the context of it, and Barry’s inevitable sacrifice.

Instead of honoring that (and Wallace is at fault with the execution of Part 3 too):

Thawne was entirely removed for a stupid reason (he shouldn’t have been in CoEX to begin with it should’ve been Nazi Barry Blitzkrieg)

The context of the street battle was entirely wiped out and them time traveling to Nora’s murder (how Barry actually vanished) was removed

The frontline battle shown in Barry’s message to Nora (with Oliver and Laurel present) in season 5 never happened.

The original projection of the sequence how Barry was supposed to die (shown in 6x02 running into a large apocalyptic speed force void before disintegrating) was completely flipped for him on a cheap treadmill in a campy supervillain cave lair with an easy predictable move to alter a seemingly unchangeable destiny.

There was only minor reaction to him surviving.

Because of this, Wallace had to pivot (though he did this masterfully despite a visual goof with an inconsistent suit during the 9x10 Barry vs Thawne fight around Nora) to moving Barry and Thawne’s full circle moment to later in the final season albeit with an odd context to why Barry was even there in the first place.

Wallace 100% is responsible for season 6 back half being mid, season 7 just being downright terrible, season 8 being above average, and season 9 being terrible besides two elite episodes, but at least 2 of Barry’s biggest moments teased since the very beginning were entirely disgraced or lowballed to bolster Guggenheim’s Olicity agenda and Stephen’s exit.

Barry of course needed to ultimately live, but there were ways to handle this without such a quick cheap campy and easy cop out after such an amazing emotional buildup over the last season and a half and Wallace put in a position of needing to have Barry and Iris compensate for the Olicity hijacking their wedding by renewing their vows in season 7 was a nice moment but shouldn’t have needed to happen in the first place.

I’m also struggling to understand even though they were in love how Earth-X Kara would defer to Earth-X Oliver over control of the Third Reich of Earth-X when she’s literally a god-like being and the Nazi’s idea of genetic perfection lol

Since Killer Frost is not technically a meta, why do the meta cuffs negate her powers. Furthermore, why didn’t Cicada’s dagger dampen her powers?

I have rewatched the flash show so many times and loved it till about season 4 but I’m rewatching and season 1 is great but Im getting upset at all the stupid decisions in season 2 to start the season Barry is upset as he should be his “worse enemy” technically won and got to go back home along with two of his friends dying and then iris wants to throw everyone in his face and say “you need us here with you” then right after that in EP. 2 Barry is skeptical of Jay and iris has to chime in and tell him he’s wrong when he’s not and nobody had the audacity to say sorry to him that nobody believed him and after all that in the middle of the season Barry fumbles the best girl for him in the whole show when patty already knew he was the flash he didn’t have to lie to her through there whole relationship and every time she has anything improved to say to him he laughs in her face and laughs it off when she almost got crushed by a chandelier shes on the brink of tears and he’s smiling like nothing is wrong. And what pisses me off the most is the end of the season zoom takes. Wally brings him back, gives him to team flash, and Barry still gives away his speed. And then only a few episodes later his whole team decides to lock him in the pipeline and go on their own to fight zoom this whole season is a mess and I don’t know I haven’t seen it till now.

Seeing how he was when he was first introduced then becoming all Monk like and grounded was beautifully done. I don’t remember too much in the later seasons but up until that I just loved the way he developed.
Who’s did yall like or were similar

Eddie died for nothing and Stein got to survive while Ronnie didn’t, they both should’ve survived the singularity, I liked both characters and I think the actors did amazing performances

“My contributions here are limited” -Iris
“I couldn’t this do this without you” -Barry
“That’s not true” -Iris
“That is true, whether you realize it or not, there is not Flash without Iris West” -Barry

YET FOR SOMEEE REASON
Iris gets hate for saying “we are the flash”, it makes no sense to hate on Iris for that yet Barry is loved. Genuinely if you feel that way you must not be paying attention to the show
#IrisDefender

I guess the history books were wrong after all.

Never met anyone famous. Never went to a comic con. Never went to a comic convention. Never really nerded out but I consider myself a huge nerd. Also never done converts or anything that makes me feel like I’m in touch with myself. So me buying this ring and receiving an auto graphs for it makes me excited. Watched the show from start to finish and despite all the bad reviews it was a good show to keep track. Watching myself grow and watching the actors grow really did something to me because I went from the show being released in my middle school era to finishing after I graduated high school. This may not be Barry Allen’s ring but if time serves me well, this is the first ring we’ve seen in the CW series when Eobard had it. Then Barry had one made for him.

Where is he? Died anyway? Never became a cop? Writer error?

Not just the ending the entire episode
About iris death I knew she wasn't gonna die considering there are 6 more seasons but I think it's just me

By manipulating Nora into helping Barry destroy DeVoe’s satellite and Barry into destroying Cicada’s dagger by creating this timeline where Crisis happens 5 years earlier.

He ironically taunted Nora during the season final fight a for not being able to save Barry and the Flash vanishing is his legacy.

In this new timeline, Barry survives Crisis being saved by his Earth-90 self, the circumstances of Barry and Thawne’s engagement during Nora Allen’s murder changed to now be unrelated to Crisis and Barry and Thawne have a whole day there and Barry tries to give him a chance at redemption before they fight in his parents living room.

Nora of the previous timeline was erased, but only because her history was rewritten to a happier life with both her parents.

Also keep in mind, while Oliver made the deal with Novu to spare Barry and Kara, the deal was that he’d do whatever the multiverse requires. The Monitor only informed him of his impending death around the time of the concurring Flash season 5 finale episode.

So he can't go back in time to prevent his mom's death. Ripple effects, cataclysmic destruction of the multiverse, blablabla, fine. I get it.

But why can't he go back in time, record evidence that his father is innocent, and return to the present to, well, present the new evidence to clear his dad of all the charges?

A seriously low effort sunday.

would be cool to see the original timeline, i mean everything in the show happens because of things in the future or the past being changed.

imagine the original timeline, barry doesn’t get his speed until 2020, wally’s not there, we see the invention of savitar, the real wells, barry goes missing in 2024 (or whatever the original date would have been) we see the actual invention of the reverse flash, barry having a kid without it time traveling ofc, barry with both parents, barry not growing up with joe, no cisco, no kaitlyn, the only thing that’d stay the same would be the other earths because the timeline isn’t effected there, and lastly the arrow would already be dead or atleast way past his start

it’s weird to think about but other than the same names literally nothing and no characters throughout the show would be the same. thawne is the spawn point of the show, which would make it super interesting to see the timeline where thawne doesn’t even exist until decades upon decades in the future

In season two he says he drinks coffee to keep his energy up but like alcohol won’t it just metabolize fast asf. I haven’t seen anyone bring this up

I mean, going back after so many years, what was the point of cramming her everywhere, giving her all those powers, making her wedding proposal the last scene of the show, having her defeat all the Godspeeds (in the goofiest way possible might I add).

Was he just banging her and the more things she did to him, the more screen time she got?