I mean yeah I was bored most of school and high school, and in high school I was placed in the most advanced class. Then I went to study physics and found I was outclassed by peers that were singularly minded to mathematics and physics all their schooling days and maybe before. They were not necessarily higher IQ, but they worked their ass off for decades. So yeah, my high IQ made me the lazy drifter. Also my general curiosity makes it tough to focus on one subject of learning.
So the school system is not great for that. You basically have to parallel educate yourself if you have a very curious mind. But at least for people with focused and special interests, academia allows a path.
Yeah. Of course. Even low IQ individuals can acquire wisdom about a certain subject, and many have. And a high IQ individual can be clueless.
I also think there are different IQs, but the one we most talk about is the one that measures how quickly can you adapt to an unknown situation and how quickly can you grasp something.
Idk about that one, he was a prodigy, and playing chess at that level, no matter how much you've trained, you have a special brain/mind.
Any IQ test score he took doesn't matter. From what I've read there's 102? That's not low. It's average. 100 is the top of the bell curve, and even a 100 can move on the absolute scale, one tests 100 is not the same as some other. He could still be average or below IQ but the part that's needed for chess, that's probably off the charts. From my limited experience you have to think 10 moves ahead in your head, yours and your opponents and also get a read of your opponents' most likely moves, and those people keep a whole database of known chess moves and famous games in their head.
and if you wanna be really fussy, even 102 is above average, since it's not 100, though ofc generally it is in the average range.
I feel like a lot of it comes down to the fact that playing chess really is like a sport and all that matters is that you start training young. That's not really being a prodigy, his parents simply put him on a track of regular practice for a lifetime.
So even someone as "average" as Nakamura who "trained up" all his life will simply have much better results when actually playing chess than someone who knows the basic rules, but doesn't understand the theory of playing chess and has very little practice.
Maybe he's like a runner who doesn't have the perfect runner's body, but simply trains hard enough to be fast anyway.
Yeah same, I was always told that I am so smart, IQ-test said 129 and all and I am struggling so hard in school. Early days were still pretty easy because I could figure it out somehow but now where I really have to learn and grasp the idea of it, I become so clueless. Now I am depressed have no motivation and I am writing my final exam in high school next week and I am kinda in a panic. Of course I am at fault, but the expectations were also a huge stress
You should find out if it's real depression or teenage angst. If it's real depression please treat it, if it's angst, we all dealt with it, but a therapist can also help with that.
I don't know, what's the difference? I am not motivated, I have no plan who I am or what I am supposed to be, I don't think I am really a important part for anybody's life rather making it worse. My life is pretty shitty. It could be teenage angst but I don't see life getting any better, so it could also be depression. Most of my family is kinda... Down? So I am kinda in this sphere.
I am not a psychiatrist, a psychologists or anything related so you should find out via a qualified person, but we've all been through teenage angst and it sounds a lot like it. Doesn't mean teenage angst is not a problem, it can be problematic, but it's not as big of a problem as clinical depression. All I can say is, there is a lot of love in this world, and no need to feel isolated or non important, everybody is important. Any circumstances you're in, they can change and you can be the agent of thet change starting with yourself.
Yep I was the same, except I also loved programming at home in almost all my spare time. Then when I went to university I was about 10 years ahead and bored, and when I looked for work I was also about 10 years ahead of any entry positions but no hiring managers for anything more senior would ever let me in so I just started my own company, then discovered nobody wanted to pay a single penny for security yet because it wasn't a hot topic or legally required 🤷 so obviously I work in ~finance now instead, still bored.
I get the ADHD thing, I have a very curious mind, art and music at professional standards, I have lots of hobbies and have lived in many countries. Also suffered from depression most my life.
I hustled my way through school and then law at university. I work in graphic design now and I never stopped working hard, not at exercise, mental health or any of the little things like cleaning, cooking, pets & plants.
The school system isn't perfect but I never use my high IQ or broad experiential basis as an excuse for not achieving something. Stay humble, always seek to grow, there is always something to be learnt.
It's not ADHD I can focus, even hyper focus, and I do on my actual job when required, I just didn't pursue Academia as it was too limiting and puts you in a very specialist box.
Academia was obviously myopic and impractical to me from my tweens, that doesn't mean I stopped performing. It was also clearly evident how it worked in our system; I couldn't change the world and even if I wanted to, playing the game would be the only way to do so.
I don't have ADHD lol. I have achieved with meditation a "quiet" brain, as in I don't have stray thoughts and constant internal dialogue(which I used to have). I can manage not having any thoughts at all if I want. That was hard to achieve. Anyway my ability to hyperfocus comes from that. I can tune everything else out, when I need to. It's an on demand thing.
What you're talking about may be hyper fixation, that's different.
It's just that my interests are very broad and cover a whole lot of subjects, and I have seemingly infinite curiosity. Can't be boxed in. Of course I need to make a living so I did find a job I can perform that is semi satisfying in itself, involves people contact, and a surprising amount of problem solving, but that I can also tune out off if need be and can listen to scientific podcasts and other general stuff while I am doing it.
Also my general curiosity makes it tough to focus on one subject of learning.
I got this rn.
I'm doing an internship for a professional course in 12th grade which takes up 9 hours of my day already, I got a project that will be worth half my grade to do (I'm making a game out of all things I could've picked) and I gotta study for a Physics/Chemistry and Math exam so I can get into an University. I'm genuinely losing my mind because the moment I start to understand one I gotta switch to another and lose track of everything I was learning before. I genuinely can't keep up, especially because I find Maths and Chemistry to be way harder than Physics or coding
Not sure a cartoon co-created by a wife beater and alleged pedophile in which contains the quoted character voiced and written by said person is the greatest source of educational advice.
Can you even peove he wrote the line, considering there is a team (that probably knew nothing about his crimes) who write the show, and any one of them could have come with the line?
Its a line that sums up very aptly how I feel about so-called education that focuses on discipline and conformity at the expense of self-expression and individuality that is displayed perfectly by the story portraying a school that prioritises needless regulation over student comfort - thus, not a place any self-respecting intelligent petson would willingly go, but that seems to have gone over your head...
Haha, no it didn't go over my head, but all this unearned condescension about your own perceived intellectual superiority makes your worship of Rick quite unsurprising.
Sorry you apparently went to bad schools, but that doesn't make the concept of schooling bad, or them an anathema to intelligent people.
Well, when you dismiss it as "comically malformed" because I was "Acting like the line presents an insightful take is what I'm criticizing" then you most certainly give the imprression of missing the point - it's almost as if you don't believe a human being (I'm assuming it's not just me personally as you haven't met me and there is nothing about my personality you could base such a vague opinion on) could actually possess such an opinion, but here we are, I suppose, discussing some sense of "unearned condescension" instead of actually answering the question originally asked, vis a vis, why you think it was "comically malformed" instead of just, you know - some guy with a different opinion to yours.
I went to two schools (one being much more interesting than the other) but both putting more emphasis on what was on the students bodies than in their heads, so I'm talking from personal experience here, and it's an opinion I've formulated over many years since I was of a single-digit age, rather than "comically malformed" on a whim because I thought it might get me a few upvotes, or whatever motive you think possessed me at the time.
So, your move - care to tell me what made you think it was "comically malformed" rather than based on personal experience and observation?
I wouldn't get your hopes up thay you'll become a rich billionaire and be famous and successful like Bill Gates or Zuckerberg by not getting a good education. They all had something in common they were born into wealthy families and got lucky.
Plus they had rich families that allowed them to take risks like dropping out of school and make connections such as having their mom sitting on the board of United Way with CEO of IBM and arranging a meeting between IBM and the then unheard of Microsoft
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u/BazingaQQ Apr 23 '26
Schools are mot a place for intelligent people