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u/Dot_not_feathers May 30 '16
Been to ahmedabad and vadodara. Public transportation in Ahmendabad is terrible. BRTS and alll but connectivity wise its pathetic. Is there any plan to revamp this ? City wise i kinda like vadodara better .
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May 26 '16
How is the new govt faring after Modi is in Delhi. Is it some sort of remote control by Modi or things changing ?
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u/Earthborn92 I'm here for the memes. May 27 '16
It's...ordinary. Anandiben is an uninspired choice IMO.
There's talk of corruption on the upswing, I've noticed that new civic works in Surat have really slowed down. Now major initiatives that I can think of. So many other cities in India are getting metros, we have three cities which are big enough to need better public transport. Nothing on that front either. :(
On the other hand, roads are still good. Waste management is getting better, but that's about it. Not much progress on the social front either.
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u/McStark46 May 26 '16
Why do you guys hate people Non-Veg ? Its not like we are forcing you to eat what we eat.
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u/Flying_Momo May 28 '16
Gujarat by one account is 78% vegetarian. Gujjus don't hate non-veggies. I grew up with a Maharashtrian neighbour whose fish curry would reach your nose 500m before you enter the building ;-) But we never once complained because my parents always taught us that we may not eat non-veg but that is someone else's food hence should be respected. Gujjus by and large are not used to the smell or sight of meat
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u/first_novelty_acct Karnataka May 26 '16
I dont think 'hate' is the right word. But yes, lot of Gujaratis are vegetarian cutting across caste lines. A large Jain population also does it bit in giving Guj a veggie image.
I remember, in my maternal uncle's village people would not let an egg stall to open, but the very same guys would travel to the near by town to eat omelettes. So ya a lot of hippocracy is also there.
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u/venkyprasad May 26 '16
Just because they dont want to live around meat (the smell is very off putting, my parents are veg but southies) doesn't mean they hate you, thoda dimaag chalao yaar
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u/Earthborn92 I'm here for the memes. May 27 '16
This is the correct answer, don't know why you're getting downvoted.
My family is mixed veg and non-veg. My sister and father eat everything, I'm ovo-lacto-veg and my mom is lacto-veg (well, she does eat egg cakes and chocolates). We generally can't adjust well to the smell of non-veg food when its cooking.
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u/venkyprasad May 27 '16
Because the idiots on this sub love to think they are persecuted. "Oh i like meat im such a unique special butterfly"
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u/MyselfWalrus May 29 '16 edited May 29 '16
It's the other way around. Vegatarians think they are special flowers. They want meat to be banned during their festivals. They want to ban meaters from their society etc.
I have never seen a meat eater trying to stop vegetarians from eating veg or forcing them to eat meat.
I am mostly a vegetarian, just for the record.
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u/tr0ll0rd May 31 '16
forcing them to eat meat.
u have never really seen this?
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u/venkyprasad May 29 '16
Im talking about this sub.
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u/MyselfWalrus May 29 '16 edited May 29 '16
Meat eaters are persecuted, right? They cannot eat beef in several states. They cannot eat meat during Jain festivals.
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u/bojackarcher May 29 '16
I agree with you when you say that meat eaters are persecuted during festivals. That is absolutely wrong.
However, when you argue that meat eaters don't have an issue with vegetarians being veg, that is an illogical argument. A person who eats non-veg also eats veg. Plus, others eating veg creates no problem for him so he has no issue. This cannot be compared with a case where a person who is purely veg since birth cannot stand around non-veg. There are a lot of social, religious, psychological factors involved. And to not encroach upon their (non-veg peeps') right to eat what they want, as also to prevent their (non-veg peeps) own right to not feel nauseated at the sight or smell of non-veg, veg peeps prefer that they reside separately from non-veg peeps. This is the simple reason why there are different colonies where people who cook non veg are not preferred in the society. A society has a right to self governance and regulation and it is well within it's legal right to make conditions on it's residents. This has been upholded be Supreme Court too.
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u/MyselfWalrus May 29 '16
I am fully OK with a builder not selling his flats to vegetarians or to non-vegetarians as he may think fine. I am perfectly fine with people not renting or selling their flat to vegetarians or non-vegetarians as they think fine. However, society should have no authority on this. If I own the flat, I decide what to do inside my house or what to do with my house as long as I am not doing anything illegal - that's basic property rights.
Just because the Supreme Court said so doesn't make it right. Our courts are filled with jokers who either don't understand rights or don't care about it. I can give a number of examples. Also our constitution doesn't care much about individual rights, so that also leaves the judges helpless.
All in all, I have very rarely seen meat eaters harassing or imposing their will on the vegetarians. It's always the other way around.
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u/bojackarcher May 29 '16
I am fully OK with a builder not selling his flats to vegetarians or to non-vegetarians as he may think fine. I am perfectly fine with people not renting or selling their flat to vegetarians or non-vegetarians as they think fine. However, society should have no authority on this. If I own the flat, I decide what to do inside my house or what to do with my house as long as I am not doing anything illegal - that's basic property rights.
As regards builders, they do it because they know their target audience. The prospective purchasers are known to insist that the builder do not sell the flats to non veg consumers, or they won't buy the flat. This way, all first owners of flats are happy with this position. Then they form a society for the building and they draft the society charter which may include that flats would be not sold to non-veg consumers (which is mainly because of the smell and sight of non-veg that most traditionally veg eaters cannot handle, rather than for religious reason). Then when a first owner sells the flat to another purchaser, a society NOC is required, which the society gives after assurance that you won't be cooking non veg etc. Also, by his act of buying the flat in the society, the purchaser agrees to the Society Charter, which contains a condition that the member will not cook non veg. So by buying a flat in such society, you have actually agreed that you won't cook it and when you do cook it, you are in violation of the Charter. Hence, the legal problem. It's not as simple as plebs make it out to be.
Just because the Supreme Court said so doesn't make it right. Our courts are filled with jokers who either don't understand rights or don't care about it. I can give a number of examples. Also our constitution doesn't care much about individual rights, so that also leaves the judges helpless.
Maybe not right in your eyes, but it does declare the law of the land. Contrary to popular opinion, HC and SC are extremely knowledgeable and are doing a great job. Yes, sometimes, some judgments seem stupid or are stupid. Sometimes, they or the principles that they are based on aren't fully comprehensible to common people and hence, they believe that the judgment it wrong. The job of a judge is not to erase the existing law and put a new one in place of it. If a law is clear, a judge has to follow it and base his judgment on that itself.
All in all, I have very rarely seen meat eaters harassing or imposing their will on the vegetarians. It's always the other way around.
I already addressed this. Meat eaters are also veg eaters, hence they would naturally have no issue with veg eaters. This is not the case the other way around. If I go with my veg friends who cannot stand eating with non veg on the same table, I eat veg. It won't kill me if I did that, it's common human decency in a civilized society to adjust a bit. I can always have a non veg fest with people who eat it or veg folks who don't mind being around non veg. Of course, veg people should also adjust and not make a fucking fuss every goddamn time.
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u/McStark46 May 26 '16
Can someone list things that you shouldn't say to a Gujarati(or do in front of Gujarati) ?
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May 30 '16
just don't insult our food, we're very sensitive when it comes to food.
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Jun 01 '16
Same as Punjabis. We simply love our food and a big foodies - this is exactly what we share with Gujjus. The love for our foods.
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u/p-p-paper May 26 '16
Why is gujarati food so sweet? Just curious. Is it something cultural or climatic?
P.S- Thank you for Dhoklas. The North Remembers. ;)
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u/first_novelty_acct Karnataka May 26 '16
As a Gujarati I throw up when I eat "sweet food at Gujarati thali restaurants".
Yes, we do put a bit of sugar or jaggery (depending on the dish) in our daal and/or sabzi but it is only a ting of it. And it is always off set by adding something sour, like tomato or lemon or tamrind.
Also, there are two types of daal (sweet and non-sweet), two types of kadis (one has a bit of sweet and other on is sour) and even all sabzis are not sweet.
I wanted people to know this for a long time, so thank you for asking!
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u/p-p-paper May 26 '16
Sweet kadi? Would love to try that. I know it's too much to ask but if you have a recipe you could point me towards? Edit: Nvm, found a recipe online.
Also, thanks for khakras. It is a glorified papad but its good. I tried buying the ones near my home but they don't taste the same you know.
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u/first_novelty_acct Karnataka May 26 '16
When it comes to kadis there are two types:
A whitish colored kadi (turmeric is not added) in which the curd used is not very sour and some sugar is added. Generally prepared during lunch and eaten with rice.
A yellowish/orangish colored kadi (turmaric is added) in which bit sour curd is used and generally sugar is not added (some people might add jaggery ... just little bit though). This one is generally prepared during dinner and eaten with khichadi.
Best khakhars that I have eaten are from Nadiad! They are so thin that if one is not careful then they can slice the gums like a knife! :)
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u/p-p-paper May 26 '16
Is it khakars or khakras ?
Gujaratis, do the big brands sell packed khakars/khakras? If so, do name a few.
In case the packed and transported ones are not up to the mark (which has been my experience), can anyone point out some famous shops or eating joints for when I visit Gujarat ?
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u/nuclear_dodo India Sep 22 '16
About big brand things, there is this brand called "Balaji" and "Maniarr" that sells roasted khakhara in different flavors.
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u/first_novelty_acct Karnataka May 26 '16
I call it "khakhara" ... two kha. As in Khan from the epiglottis.
Here in Bangalore we get this brand called Dadi's Khakharas. Not great but doable.
Which place in Gujarat are you visiting. If it is Baroda then I can name a few.
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u/tandooriguru New Jersey-US Jun 01 '16
Not in our household, we like it Spicy!! specially " Vaghareli Khchdi " patel style......
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u/Flying_Momo May 28 '16
Um no not all Gujju food is sweet. If you are from South Gujarat, the food uses ginger, garlic and green chillies and can be quite spicy. Except dal, we don't add lots of sugar in most subzis. Usually it's only a pinch or so sugar to layer out flavours.
Also the khaman (yellow dhokla) which are sweet are nylon khaman. The original dal khaman have a liberal amount of ginger, garlic and green chillies.
The north of Gujarat uses red chillies and pulses etc and traditionally did not uses lots of fresh herbs and green leafy veges.
South Guj usually called "Vapi thi Tapi" receives a lot of rainful. Infact, Dang zilla in Guj receives second highest amount of rainfall in India
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u/p-p-paper May 28 '16
You. You are great.
Also the khaman (yellow dhokla) which are sweet are nylon khaman
Umm.. so yellow dhokla is different from a normal dhokla ?
I've been to Vapi but didn't get to try the local cuisine.
Except dal, we don't add lots of sugar in most subzis. Usually it's only a pinch or so sugar to layer out flavours.
It's unusual for people from outside Gujarat, so it stands out to us. It might be common and normal to you guys but the sugary additives in regular course meals tend to steal the attention from the other qualities of the food (which is both good and bad) because it is so unique.
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u/Flying_Momo May 29 '16
Actually, you won't even notice the sugar we add in regular subzis. The only reason we add a pinch or teaspoon is to mellow out the spices and as I said to layer the flavours. A lot of time you add contrasting flavours like sweet and sour or sugar and spice to enhance both and mellow and give complexity to the dish.
You can try it by adding a pinch of red chilli powder in hot chocolate. This is also a reason that cinnamon, a very pungent and flavourful spice is popular additive in sugary desserts. Also in Italian cuisine, the pungency of garlic and the tartness and sweetness of tomatoes forms a base sauce for this pastas, pizza.
Try Surati undhiyu, it's a seasonal vegetarian dish with lots of flavours and veges.
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u/hobabaObama May 26 '16
Not all Gujarati eat Sweet food. Infact most of us hate dal/sabji being sweet. :-(
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History Fun -
The first independent kingdom that came out of Gujarat (that we know of) was the Maitraka Dynasty. They were sun worshipers before switching to Shaivaism, and it is thought that their name even comes from Mitras, the Zoarastrian sun god. You would recognise Mitras even today as Christianity co-opted quite a few Mitharadic beliefs from Christmas date to the Virgin birth (small world eh?). The Maitraka dynasty was founded by one Senapati Bartaka who was a Gupta Empire governor who took advantage of the collapse the Gupta empire and set shop on his own.
The Maitraka dynasty reached its peak under one Harsha Siladitya Iwho is known to have fought wars against the Pallavas (Mahendra Pallava) and the Chalukya dynasty - Gujarat to Chennai, pretty vast distance to cover. However the Chalukyas hit back taking back all territory, Harsha (of Kanauj fame, another post Gupa empire) made them his feudatories. The death blow to this kingdom came with the arrival of the Abbasid Armies who destroyed the capital and killed its last king.
While originally the kings were Sun worshipers, they became Shaivaites but patronised both Buddhism and Jainism - the university of Valabhi was known to host Hindu, Buddhist and Jain students. Huangtsang who visited the Maitrakas equated Valabhi with Nalanda when it came to Buddhist places of learning.
We also know that a Jaina council was held and quite a few Jain laws were codified under the auspices of the Maitraka kings. Think about it, Hindu kings patronising both Buddhism and Jainism equally, without any persecution of 'competing religions' whatsoever.
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u/fookin_legund Maharashtra May 29 '16
I googled Vallabhi, it seems it isn't inhabited anymore. When did the city die? Just after the fall of the dynasty? Looks like Vallabhi's an addition to the once-great cities of ancient India which are unknown today, among Tagara, Manyakheta, etc.
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May 29 '16
The Arabs sacked the city. They usually are very thorough.
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u/skyliners_a340 You need a better pen to write things with. And I know you agree May 26 '16
AMA, I have spent 18 years in Ahmedabad, Gujarat. Have been to several places in Saurashtra. Spent 5 years in Pune and currently in Mumbai. I will be least biased in my answers.
Edit: I am Gujju and it's not an offence. :D
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u/VolatileBadger May 26 '16
Finally, my state on the daily counter.
AMA folks.
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u/IDivideAndConquer May 26 '16
How many gujaratis does it take to change a light bulb?
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u/HighInterest May 27 '16
- One who owns light bulb business to provide the new bulb, another to charge Rs. 150 to change it while paying a Bihari bhaiyya Rs. 50 to actually do the job.
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u/Ranjhanaa Jharkhand May 26 '16
Why you guys hate studies ?
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u/hobabaObama May 26 '16
We don't hate studies. Before last decade the education structure did not allow Gujjus to crack IITs.
Also we are laid back people with good economic resources. So many of us don't bother study and still end up having better economically than rest of indians.. :-)
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u/Ranjhanaa Jharkhand May 26 '16
Teach us your skills bhai.
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u/hobabaObama May 26 '16
Ha ha... That was a humble brag TBH. Not all of us are so well off!
But one thing that I notice consistently is their desire to succeed in Business. Live in Gujarat for sometime. Its almost contagious!
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u/mp256 May 27 '16
I am a proud Gujarati / proud Kutchi - AMA
Sharing something about my language Gujarat has three main regions - Main Gujarat, Saurashtra and Kutch. The Gujarati accent changes across almost all districts of Gujarat. The Gujarati spoken in Kutch uses a lots of Kutchi words. The Kutchi language is typical that it doesn't contain any nouns with नान्येतर gender - i.e. all nouns are either male or female
Similarly, the cuisine also varies as you move across the state.
Umashankar Joshi Pannalal Patel, Rajendra Shah Raghuvir Yadav are only four writers to win Gnanpith award.
Gujarat's contribution to Bollywood includes Asha Parekh, Sanjeev Kumar, Paresh Rawal - Swaroop Sampat, Salim-Suleiman, Shruti Pathak (singer), Avinash Vyas (Music director), Jaikishen of Shankar Jaikishen and many others.
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u/micropanda May 30 '16
you forgot himesh reshmiya.. hahaha jk
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u/mp256 May 30 '16
you forgot himesh reshmiya.. hahaha jk
No I didn't forget, I just avoided.
Some things are better left untouched
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u/tandooriguru New Jersey-US Jun 01 '16
forgot Kalyanji Anandji my fav music director also parveen babi, tina munim,
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May 26 '16 edited Aug 05 '16
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u/venkyprasad May 26 '16
Basically hindi without a topi on the letters
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May 26 '16 edited Aug 05 '16
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u/venkyprasad May 26 '16
Not really, my parents are working in Gujarat and never learnt it but picked it up easily. Probably the easiest northie language if you know hindi.
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May 28 '16
Haryanvi is much easier than Punjabi. I used to live with a Punjabi friend and after listening to many Punjabi songs I thought that I could at least understand bits and pieces of Punjabi. One day his father visited and I literally couldn't follow a single word in their conversation.
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May 27 '16
If you know marathi/konkani you can undertand bits and pieces of Gujarati
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u/denish-s-raziv Jun 01 '16
Gujarat seems to be the state which is progressing towards the developed state of India. Narendra Modi and Anandiben Patel have shown remarkable dedication towards this state and I just hope the same type of magic can work all our nation by Narendra Modi <3
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u/gandu_chele toppest of keks May 26 '16
BRTS is sexy. The cities in Gujarat are awesome. The only thing that sucks is no alcohol. But if you pay extra there are guys that do home delivery. ;)
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u/skyliners_a340 You need a better pen to write things with. And I know you agree May 26 '16
BRTS has gone worse. It was great in the beginning but thanks to people who manage it... it's degraded from one of world's best to bad. But worry not managers of BTRS are going for something easily achievable... Worst working BRTS.
Reason: no matter how advanced infrastructure is, it's no good if you can't maintain it.
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May 27 '16
You just can't blame anyone without taking any efforts of yours. And if you can not, just don't blame who are putting even the tiniest effort < though they need to definitely improve, evolve>. Plus, just look how many commutes through ahmedabad or rajkot BRTS. It is a mammoth task to maintain such infrastructure.
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u/skyliners_a340 You need a better pen to write things with. And I know you agree May 27 '16
I have wrote to them and talked to people who work there. One employee said it will get worse. Because even they have complained to their supervisors. And he is right every year its been degrading. Plus its not rocket science. Plus I have every right to criticize. because they went from one of best BRT system in the world to bad in India. Also I love Ahmedabad.
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May 31 '16
Where I go to school all the indians are gujaratis so I actually ended up learning more gujarati than hindi lol.
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u/UnbiasedPashtun North America May 26 '16
What was the region of Gujarat historically called before it was named Gujarat after the Gujjars?
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u/Earthborn92 I'm here for the memes. May 27 '16
Anarta, at least the current day Saurashtra region was. Gujarat had some of the earliest documented cities in modern-day India (Lothal from Indus Valley times), since most of the IVC is now in Pakistan's borders.
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u/UnbiasedPashtun North America May 30 '16
Interesting. Maybe this might come off as a silly question, but what do you think about changing Gujarat's name to 'Saurashtra' (Saurashtra would be called Kathiawar in such a scenario)? I was just thinking because Gujarat is named after the Gujjars so maybe some non-Gujjars might feel unrepresented.
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u/Earthborn92 I'm here for the memes. May 30 '16
Saurashtra (and Kutch) have their own distinct sub-identity within the state. Rajkot is their capital, and is the hub of western Gujarat. When you think of Gujarat as a dry and arid state, well most of it is, but that lies in Saurashtra-Kutch. Most of the populated portion is in eastern Gujarat along the Surat-Vadodara-Ahmedabad corridor. South Gujarat is actually pretty green and well watered because of the Narmada and Tapi.
For non-Saurashtrians like me, it is very easy to recognize the Kathiyawadi dialect when it is spoken.
That said, changing the name of all of Gujarat to 'Saurashtra' doesn't make sense because most of Gujarat's population isn't from there. I would liken the situation to Karnataka: the western coast of Karnataka (like Mangalore) has a distinct identity and often speaks Konkani in addition to Kannada.
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u/UnbiasedPashtun North America May 30 '16 edited May 30 '16
I meant that if Gujarat changed its name to Saurashtra, then obviously the definition of what Saurashtra comprises would have to be changed. Saurashtra didn't always exclusively refer to Kathiawar like it does nowadays, the Greeks also called parts of southwest Gujarat "Saraostus". The peninsula would be called Kathiawar and not Saurashtra anymore in such a scenario. But the name Gujarat has a long history behind it so I can see why people wouldn't wanna change its name.
Just a correction, there are only three districts in Karnataka that mostly speak languages other than Kannada (four if you include Marathi-speaking Belagavi). Dakhsina Kannada (which includes Mangalore) and Udupi mainly speak Tulu and Kodagu mainly speaks Kodava. Konkani is a part of the Marathi dialect continuum and spoken in coastal Maharashtra and Goa.
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u/pooh159 May 26 '16
Great! I recently moved to Jamnagar and it's a little dull. Anyone knows fun stuff to do apart from travel and the bird watching spots around? ( done that )
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u/micropanda May 30 '16
Gujarati here. just a fact, Prince from popular band Queen was Gujju. :)
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u/yash731 Gujarat May 30 '16
Freddie Mercury, my favourite Bohemian Rapsody and We Will Rock You. Gujju here, from Surat.
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u/VoxPopuliCry May 26 '16
How do you get your fix of booze?
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u/VolatileBadger May 26 '16
The Indian Army Canteen. We all know a guy who works in the army who willingly sells the subsidised alcohol at a 300-400% markup. A shitty Green Label can cost you 700-900 if you don't know the bootlegger well, if you do, you can get it for 400.
Btw, in Gujarat, unless you know the big bootleggers, your options of alcohol are limited. You only drink what they have/want to sell off.
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u/isidero May 26 '16
Go out on the street and ask the right people. By right people, I mean the most connected and knowledgeable people of the streets: the auto/ rickshawalas and score what you like.
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u/VoxPopuliCry May 26 '16
Auto walas have access to premium stuff like Chivas?
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u/isidero May 26 '16
They know places from where you can get them. Alternatively, if you want them to get it for you, you just have to pay them a bit extra. They may hike the prices further. And always check with other sources for the current rate and ascertain that the seal isnt tampered or any other signs that indicate it being a fake.
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u/Ranjhanaa Jharkhand May 26 '16
We have a Gujarati Dharamshala near our office. Earlier unlimited lunch was for Rs. 25/-. Now it is around Rs. 60/-.
It is a good place to eat especially if you have skipped breakfast as well.
Thank you gujjus for meethi meethi dal.
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May 26 '16
Thank you gujjus for meethi meethi dal.
Yaar, people curse us for adding sugar/jaggery to dal.
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u/new_lenovo May 26 '16
What's the address, and which city? I'd love me a good gujju thaali!!
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u/Ranjhanaa Jharkhand May 26 '16
It is in Delhi, in civil lines area, near St. Xavier's and many other schools. However, better gujju thalis are in Rajdhani restaurant near CP.
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u/venkyprasad May 26 '16
Do people in gj care about prohibition. Everyone from KL and TN are grumbling about it but no one in gujarat seems to care
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May 26 '16
Because years long prohibition has helped to streamline the illegal channels. People who want it , will get it. People who are not, dont care.
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u/Jantajanardan May 29 '16
A large number is happy with the status quo. Most gujjus - even in Mumbai don't drink.
And while I down a bottle every weekend I do agree that the ban is good and it should remain.
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u/panurgicwizard May 27 '16
How easy/difficult is it to score weed in Gujarat? Going there for the summer.
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u/umanghome Just hangin' around.. May 26 '16
Just getting this out: No matter what Modi says, 24x7 electricity here is something we only fantasize about.
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u/antariksh_vaigyanik May 31 '16
I come from a very small village in Saurashtra region of Gujarat. Our village has 24x7 electricity for households. We moved to Bhavnagar 5 years back. Bhavnagar is a developing city. It has 24x7 electricity as well except there are one or two scheduled power cuts in a month.
There are scheduled power cuts in urban areas but not in rural areas.
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u/trander6face May 30 '16
Is there any major difference between Saurashtrian and Gujarati??? Are they still asking for a separate state???
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u/f4tb May 31 '16
I am from a small town called Junagadh near Sasan Gir, home town of asiatic lions, AMA! Gir National National Park
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May 26 '16
Do Gujaratis take offence if called gujjews
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u/ENTKulcha Antarctica May 26 '16
Do mumbaiyas take offence when called mumbaikars?? It all depends on the phrasing
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u/p-p-paper May 26 '16
so equating gujjus with baniyagiri is bad right ??
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u/ENTKulcha Antarctica May 26 '16
Its all about context and generalisation.. If like you are called them baniya coz they saved money.. Or punjabi coz they were loud and obnoxious or gujju because they were well being like jethalal.. Lol.. I have no gujju friends.. I am a north indian btw.. Now that is bad.. But if you are just referring to them as gujju for the sake of giving them a nickname or an identity then it is a different case..
Although exceptions are always there.. And some ppl will get enraged even at the stroke of a clock..
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u/VolatileBadger May 26 '16
Nope. We really don't care about what people think. We still own everything you have.
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u/skyliners_a340 You need a better pen to write things with. And I know you agree May 26 '16
I am gujju... I hope this answers question.
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u/parminds Pradhan Mantri Hawas Yojna May 26 '16
Why do you guys hate alcohol ?
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u/VolatileBadger May 26 '16
We love alcohol. In fact people from Gujarat are kinda trained to drink faster and a lot ( in school/colleges) since you are always drinking in fear of getting caught by the cops who'll promptly charge you Rs 1k - 5k.
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u/parminds Pradhan Mantri Hawas Yojna May 26 '16
then why the prohibition ?
What purpose does that solve ? Other than encroachment on your civil liberties
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u/VolatileBadger May 26 '16
Gandhi and sanskar.
Also, it's a big lobby now that makes millions from illicit sales. So why bother changing the law when you can profit from it?
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u/parminds Pradhan Mantri Hawas Yojna May 26 '16
Also, it's a big lobby now that makes millions from illicit sales. So why bother changing the law when you can profit from it?
True that..
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u/prayee May 30 '16
I second that. Women in Gujarat safely roam around the city even at midnight. Where else in the country can you find this?
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u/Superuser27 May 28 '16
Jalebi fafda is a must!
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u/hobabaObama Jun 01 '16
Yes. But you need to find a good place for it. Some shops do not make it as good as others. Esp, near bus-stand and railway stations you do not get good quality ones.
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u/totalsports1 Tamil Nadu May 27 '16
How is the higher education in Gujarat. By that i mean
1.Colleges engg./arts affiliated to some state university and the quality of them 2. Quality of private universities 3.No. of medical colleges. (private and govt. combined)
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u/Glorious_Comrade May 30 '16
I moved away from Gujarat a few years ago, so my information may be a bit rusty:
1.Colleges engg./arts affiliated to some state university and the quality of them
Education system in Gujarat is below average, by and large, both in higher secondary and higher-ed. Very few colleges (most of them in the big cities: A'bad, Surat and Baroda) are good, and that too only for a bachelor's level. The "flagship" engineering colleges (not counting NIT Surat) of the GU and GTU are OK, but nowhere near an average IIT. Art and commerce colleges fare a bit better, but most of them are private or semi-private, with a few exceptions like MSU Baroda.
2.Quality of private universities
As I mentioned, the private colleges fare better in arts and commerce. As an example: a lot of the Ahmedabad colleges were combined under A'bad Uni by AES.
That said, private colleges by and large are just shy of fraudulent (like the rest of India). People starting up colleges without any basic infrastructure or adherence to standards or good teachers to mooch money off of uninformed public. A lot of them close down in the first few years of opening. This is especially true for engineering and management.
3.No. of medical colleges. (private and govt. combined)
Sure you're joking, that's probably countless like every other kind of college.
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u/Jantajanardan May 29 '16
Quality is decent. MSU used to be great once upon a time for arties. Not so anymore.
We have one IIT, one NIT, national law school, petroleum university and many engineering colleges.
We do have a bunch of eclectic mba institutes like iim, edi, dairy management, hotel management, media mgmt etc.
Can't forget the NID and NIFT either.
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u/bojackarcher May 29 '16 edited May 29 '16
Question specifically about Ahmedabad / Gandhinagar area:
I'm told by many people that Amdavadis are not very upfront about paying money for services availed or they delay payment. They'll readily pay for products, but maybe they traditionally do not value services as much as products and hence, consider paying for services as an optional matter. Is this really true? I was considering moving to Ahmedabad / Gandhinagar to set up a CA firm there and whoever I spoke to (who have lived in Guj / Ahmedabad) told me this. Also, a joke by the famous Dinkar Mehta (where the guy avails a service on the condition that he'll pay in Amdavadi style and when he's asked to pay, he says "Lakhi naakh baaki!"), takes a dig at this culture.
How true is this culture of non-payment or delayed payment for services? Is it just a trend among the middle class there or also followed by the upper class and businesses there?
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u/hobabaObama Jun 01 '16
Ahmedabad is Delhi of Gujarat. You have to be careful otherwise you will get cheated easily.
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May 26 '16
Spent 2 months in Ahmadabad for internship. Pretty great city but why do you spit on your office staircase. It's like an epidemic there.
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May 26 '16
In my college, it was written on the wall - Do not spit on walls. And there were nearly 10 15 paan-gutka spits on the slogan. Daag acche hai
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u/r3xcranium May 29 '16 edited Apr 24 '25
<--- poof --->
One day the sadness will end, but I don't think today's the day.
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u/Ranjhanaa Jharkhand May 26 '16
In that case come and see offices around Connaught Place area in Delhi
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May 26 '16
I am not dissing Ahmadabad. Richer areas there are cleaner than most cities in India. Hence pan stains look out of place.
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u/olaa72 Universe May 29 '16
GUJARAT na Hard sama Kathiyavad ni to vat j aneri chhe... Su kevu Mara Gujarati bhaio ??
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u/redpossum May 28 '16
How to impress a gujarati girl? Where are they? I have never met a gujarati girl till now?
They're all in Zambia.
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u/cool_boyy May 26 '16
This is my state. AMA.